Never had a fit, got a tri bike secondhand and just ran with how it was already set up. It's worked well for years now but Im in the market for a new TT bike and would like to actually get fitted.
I had one prior to a bike purchase. My steed at the time was too long and I wanted to ensure I got the right bike before buying another bike. Best decision ever. Mine was done on a jig, which meant I tested different stack, reach and crank lengths right there. The fitter put 160 first and then 155. The 155 just felt amazing and I could not believe the difference it made on my knee and ongoing calf tightness I had with 165. When I got my steed setup for my measurements I never thought a bike could feel so right (or how wrong my other bike was). These days I do 6h rides with zero niggles.
2021 pain-free covid cyclist. Budgeted a bike fit along with the new steed, did a pre fit and selected a SuperSix Evo which I’m still very much in love with 3 years on. Revisited my fitter after the initial consult and have progressively changed stock saddle to Selle Boost SLR, 172.5 to 165 cranks, and a 38mm handlebar otw. Highly recommend a bike fit for newbies before shopping!
So glad you made this video! Seeing Mark and other experienced riders in the bike fit is helpful, but seeing someone start from scratch adds a lot more info!
Thanks for showing us the behind the scenes of your bike fit, Belinda! I have one booked for next week, so it’s great to get an idea of what to expect :)
Agreed! Poor Belinda! All she wanted was a working zoom PC station, now she is in charge of all Zwift team sessions at GTN, and poor girl to keep her job now has to qualify for Kona each year! #Justice4Belinda! (Lol)
Thanks. Actionable info here (although I could use the version for a typical middle aged man working a desk job.) Just building my first tt-bike. Hadn't really thought of the saddle bits or elbow positions that way.
Very interesting to see this process. Obviously needs a follow-up video of the results and the next stage. I think making small changes one at a time makes sense after an initial fit but the 10mm change to the crank length here is so significant that it might be quicker just to write off the original fit and do a new initial fit after installing the crank. The saddle pressure point looks painful to me. I have a carbon saddle with almost no give and I set it up (as far as I can by feel) for even pressure across the whole saddle. This results in a significant downward saddle angle for the aero position which garnered piss-taking from the bike-vault audience because obviously you slide down it and weight shifts onto your arms. I’ve not found this weight shift to be a problem with aero bars though because you can put the extra load through your elbows into the aero bar elbow pads leaving your wrists and hands relatively free. After setting the saddle angle without, I then put a gel cover over it to get a bit of grip to stop sliding forward and for extra comfort. My longest ride duration with this set up was about 12 hours and I was perfectly comfortable throughout and could have gone on to do another 12 had I not needed to sleep. I think saddles with the soft noses (and the stepped saddles) are basically giving you something that looks more horizontal and rule compliant when you are not sitting on it but conforms to more of a downward slope under load. Obviously if there are rules you need to obey for competition then you might need such a saddle but since I just ride for fun and exercise I can stick with what I’ve got. I’m over 90kg btw so I guess trying to ride on the tip of a horizontal saddle would be more painful for me than for someone half my weight.
I wonder if bringing the cleats back would help. They are quite toe down at the top of the stroke. Defo some potential to open up the hip there and probably lessen some pressure on the saddle too.
Hi I love these videos. I also love all the hot tech videos you do. Love looking at the amazing pro techs. But I was wondering if you wouldn't mind making a list of the best entry level tri bikes you might recommend to someone who has decided they want their first one!
curious to see how she develops and the changes she is going to make over time. Bike size and several other measures can make a world of a difference. I tend to go for bikes a size smaller than the recommended size 'cos I have a short torso so short reach for me and very long legs. Maybe I am wrong but it's been working well for me.
I thought it was interesting that both 160 and 165mm crank lengths were mentioned. She isn’t terribly tall so the shorter option seems reasonable, but my guess is that people are getting carried away with the short crank fad. You hear people suggest “You need 155mm cranks” all the time when in reality more modest crank length reductions are probably best.
When 105 came out with a 160mm that was the game changer, before that there wasn’t an inexpensive option. I rode 160 for two years, there wasn’t a downside, but I’ve gone to 165 now. I use 170 on the road. I think if your doing it right, you raise your saddle to keep bottom extension the same, then you have gained twice the crank length change of room on the top. So 5mm shorter is really a gain of 10, making the smaller change a big enough one in practice.
Crank length has become a huge movement in triathlon over the past few years. 105 has a 160 mm crank length and that is by far the best deal. Anything shorter is so much more expensive. A real hole in the market I’m afraid.
@@BelindaHumphries Usually in Asia. eBay sellers from Japan do have 105 R7000 in 160mm. The newer 12 speed Di2 model groupsets, R7100, R8100 and R9200 have 160mm as the smallest.
Have you ever had a bike fit, and how much did it improve your cycling? Let us know 👇
Matt Bottrill last year, night and day. Completed Barcelona Ironman bike leg and was able to run the marathon after.
Never had a fit, got a tri bike secondhand and just ran with how it was already set up. It's worked well for years now but Im in the market for a new TT bike and would like to actually get fitted.
I had one prior to a bike purchase. My steed at the time was too long and I wanted to ensure I got the right bike before buying another bike. Best decision ever.
Mine was done on a jig, which meant I tested different stack, reach and crank lengths right there. The fitter put 160 first and then 155. The 155 just felt amazing and I could not believe the difference it made on my knee and ongoing calf tightness I had with 165.
When I got my steed setup for my measurements I never thought a bike could feel so right (or how wrong my other bike was). These days I do 6h rides with zero niggles.
2021 pain-free covid cyclist. Budgeted a bike fit along with the new steed, did a pre fit and selected a SuperSix Evo which I’m still very much in love with 3 years on.
Revisited my fitter after the initial consult and have progressively changed stock saddle to Selle Boost SLR, 172.5 to 165 cranks, and a 38mm handlebar otw.
Highly recommend a bike fit for newbies before shopping!
Can't get enough of Phil Burt. He's in a league of his own.
Love that Belinda's kit is matchey matchey with James's paint job on the bike.
It's as if it was planned 😉
I tried some tips from this video ( shorter cranks and moving cleats ) and it worked out magnificently ❤❤❤❤❤ thank you
So glad you made this video! Seeing Mark and other experienced riders in the bike fit is helpful, but seeing someone start from scratch adds a lot more info!
Glad we could hep! 🙌 Bike fits are a great way of make sure you get the most our of your two wheeled friend 🙌
Thanks for showing us the behind the scenes of your bike fit, Belinda! I have one booked for next week, so it’s great to get an idea of what to expect :)
Amazing content, the video we've all been waiting for! Can't wait to see more of this as a series, or further bike fit series in the future.
We'll bring back more bike fitting for sure 🙌
I LOVE Phil. I actually love him.
Really loved this video and found it super informative. Can't wait for the next one.
Super cool to hear you enjoyed the iIf you subscribe and click the bell icon you won't miss the next episode 🙌
...Poor Belinda, all she wanted when she applied for the job, was a desk job 9-5 and coffee and drinks with her girlfriends afterwards....
Agreed! Poor Belinda! All she wanted was a working zoom PC station, now she is in charge of all Zwift team sessions at GTN, and poor girl to keep her job now has to qualify for Kona each year! #Justice4Belinda! (Lol)
No such thing at GTN ... we all muck in 🙌
Bikes, coffees and time with my mates all sound good to me😂
@@gtn :-)
Please do a follow-up - be great to see how the plan un-folds!!!
Thanks. Actionable info here (although I could use the version for a typical middle aged man working a desk job.) Just building my first tt-bike. Hadn't really thought of the saddle bits or elbow positions that way.
Very interesting to see this process. Obviously needs a follow-up video of the results and the next stage. I think making small changes one at a time makes sense after an initial fit but the 10mm change to the crank length here is so significant that it might be quicker just to write off the original fit and do a new initial fit after installing the crank. The saddle pressure point looks painful to me. I have a carbon saddle with almost no give and I set it up (as far as I can by feel) for even pressure across the whole saddle. This results in a significant downward saddle angle for the aero position which garnered piss-taking from the bike-vault audience because obviously you slide down it and weight shifts onto your arms. I’ve not found this weight shift to be a problem with aero bars though because you can put the extra load through your elbows into the aero bar elbow pads leaving your wrists and hands relatively free. After setting the saddle angle without, I then put a gel cover over it to get a bit of grip to stop sliding forward and for extra comfort. My longest ride duration with this set up was about 12 hours and I was perfectly comfortable throughout and could have gone on to do another 12 had I not needed to sleep. I think saddles with the soft noses (and the stepped saddles) are basically giving you something that looks more horizontal and rule compliant when you are not sitting on it but conforms to more of a downward slope under load. Obviously if there are rules you need to obey for competition then you might need such a saddle but since I just ride for fun and exercise I can stick with what I’ve got. I’m over 90kg btw so I guess trying to ride on the tip of a horizontal saddle would be more painful for me than for someone half my weight.
I wonder if bringing the cleats back would help. They are quite toe down at the top of the stroke. Defo some potential to open up the hip there and probably lessen some pressure on the saddle too.
Brillllllliant video. More please!
Hi I love these videos. I also love all the hot tech videos you do. Love looking at the amazing pro techs. But I was wondering if you wouldn't mind making a list of the best entry level tri bikes you might recommend to someone who has decided they want their first one!
curious to see how she develops and the changes she is going to make over time. Bike size and several other measures can make a world of a difference. I tend to go for bikes a size smaller than the recommended size 'cos I have a short torso so short reach for me and very long legs. Maybe I am wrong but it's been working well for me.
LOL.. I love how you mention world class cyclists (showing Froome and Wiggins) and world class triathletes (showing yourself) :-)
I learned a lot thanks
00:43 “I didn’t get that “ 😂😂
I thought it was interesting that both 160 and 165mm crank lengths were mentioned. She isn’t terribly tall so the shorter option seems reasonable, but my guess is that people are getting carried away with the short crank fad. You hear people suggest “You need 155mm cranks” all the time when in reality more modest crank length reductions are probably best.
When 105 came out with a 160mm that was the game changer, before that there wasn’t an inexpensive option. I rode 160 for two years, there wasn’t a downside, but I’ve gone to 165 now. I use 170 on the road. I think if your doing it right, you raise your saddle to keep bottom extension the same, then you have gained twice the crank length change of room on the top. So 5mm shorter is really a gain of 10, making the smaller change a big enough one in practice.
When is the sequel?
At 1:50 it looks like Mark broke something and is lucky Phil didn't see it
shhhhh 🤫
Nice to See Belindas Cervelo again 😍
could do update down the road on these Bike fit
What's the difference between tri-bike and tri-cycle?
Lol
Or a trike?
Is it normal to have neck pain when you look ahead? If not, what could be the source of the problem?
Crank length has become a huge movement in triathlon over the past few years. 105 has a 160 mm crank length and that is by far the best deal. Anything shorter is so much more expensive. A real hole in the market I’m afraid.
With the gain in popularity of shorter cranks do you think the big brands will start producing the smaller cranks? 👀
Where do you get 160 mm Shimano Ultegra cranks from?
If you find out let me know 😂
@@BelindaHumphries Usually in Asia. eBay sellers from Japan do have 105 R7000 in 160mm. The newer 12 speed Di2 model groupsets, R7100, R8100 and R9200 have 160mm as the smallest.
would like to link Belinda swim video. thanks
Phil talks that quick the next sentence has started before hes finished the last
Wait it was Phil’s fault then that Chris Froome’s bike position was off by 3cm. Aha we gotcha now 😂
Yes, Phil is to blame. Chris has no complicity after racing for 30 years.
If she could ride 120 miles in four hours after that fit I’m hopping on a plane to see him tomorrow 😂.
Her favorite word is defiantly yeah.
it's not like she was allowed to talk much, in between a lot of explanations.
@xosevi17 yeah, Phil could talk under wet cement.
She always under says yes to our crazy ideas 😂
yeah
So it was Mark's fault for not setting her right with the bike
Everytime I get a fit I end up spending at least $500 on parts 😂