Allergen labelling vs Vegan labelling. In order to remove the warning about milk, they might need to build a separate factory. www.vegansociety.com/news/blog/TM2021/allergen-vs-vegan-labelling
Yeah, a lot of these products are made in factories that handle other products which contain allergens. I have an egg allergy so I can't eat things that are made in a factory that handles eggs.
@@AtomicShrimp Yes and vegans may be happy to consider it vegan even if it accidentally contains traces of milk. They're not demanding or paying for the milk, so they're not directly supporting the dairy industry by buying it.
Yay nice to see. My daughter is the food technologist that invented and trialled the vegan range at the Pukka factory @ Syston. Still waiting for my (hopefully) free sample pies from the factory shop. I am vegan so would love to try as a treat,
These pies are my favourite Veganised products. They are simply delicious, the pastry is super tasty too. Pukka No pork pies were nomulous too, but think these may be, sadly, discontinued as not seen them in supermarkets for months.
mr shrimp is truly the wholesome uncle we all need. ive had a shite day and now im just peacefully letting mr shrimp wrap my brain in a warm blanket of food reviews u_u
Austria has different words for texture differences in mashed potato. Very smooth mashed potato is called Pürree, mashed with structure is called Sterz.
I had the "Minced Steak and Onion" one from the local Co-Op reduced as they didnt sell. Not been vegan long, but it actually tasted a lot meatier than a lot of these style pies these days. Was more than pleasantly surprised.
The wife and I are absolutely professionals at picking the hottest day of summer to do something like bake a meatloaf or roast a whole chicken or loin of pork. It's pretty much happened every single year of the dozen or so years we've been cooking and eating together, and I'm telling you it's without fail. Lol. 🤣 I love getting to see you share a meal with your significant other. She's awesome for being in videos, too.
I got roped into cooking at a huge family BBQ on one of the other hottest days of the year. The only thing that was good about it is when I eventually stepped away from the hearth, it felt like a lovely spring day to me.
I’m a bit of a noncommittal vegetarian. I like to add in veggie or vegan options into my diet when I get the chance, but I’m not super rigorous about it and still eat meat on occasion, especially if I’m not the one cooking. I really like these videos because I think more omnivores should be considering vegan or vegetarian options from time to time. Your reviews are always very fair, and I appreciate that you don’t waste our time by just being negative or saying over and over again that the products are worse than meat and will never compare.
i think they refer to that as "flexitarian." ive been striving for more meatless options myself, as well as using tiny portions of ground meats for flavor with a big pile of minced mushrooms and veggies. obv that wouldnt make a meatloaf or burger but makes great tacos or potstickers. this is just for health purposes as meat is my favorite food but im not as young as i used to be.
really interesting, i'd be interested to see an episode of different milk substitutes - rice, almond, cashew, oat, hemp etc and see how they stand up in different situations - cooking, baking, drinking etc
I've noticed that even between brands the taste can vary a lot. I quite like Almond Breeze in every flavor, but the Whole Foods brand of Almond Milk had a strange taste that I found to be pretty bad, reminded me of an uncooked cake mix or something.
Hi Atomic Shrimp, thank you for your video. I mix a tablesooon or two of soy milk with a pinch of tumeric as a wash for my vegan pies. The tumeric gives the golden colour. I so enjoy your food budget challenge videos. Hopefully you will produce more, although they probably take a long time to produce. Take care Gale🙏
The cashew paste makes me think of a cashew white cheese substitute we have here in Poland from brand called "vege siostry". It comes in a puck and is supposed to imitate fresh white cheese, often with additional stuff like paprika, seaweed, onions etc. Honestly it's genuinely good and could have fooled me since they actually add cultures to it so it has an actual fresh cheese taste and smell to it. They also have a spreadable "cream cheese" version. I love them but it's a rare treat because they are absurdly expensive, like 4 pounds for an amount that would normally cost maybe a couple of pences if it was normal dairy but I do like it. And guess makes sense, cashews are expensive. They also make a parmesan substitute which is basically just nutritional yeast with cashew bits and butter-shaped margarine, also with cashew bits.
I saw their vegan camembert, but it was insanely expensive, about the price of premium organic camembert wheel directly imported from France. I bought one time their vegan butter, because it was discounted, still very expensive, but the cheapest I could expect - it was very tasty, I didn't eat real butter for over 10 years and don't buy vegan substitutes usually, it tasted indeed quite buttery thank to cultures they put in their vegan dairy. Few years ago I bought vegan cultures for blue cheese and made it (I loved blue cheese as vegetarian, I miss nothing of dairy or eggs, but blue cheese was delicious and I wanted to eat it vegan, but store bought has no blue stripes and isn't as good), it was very tasty as well, but the process was lengthy, a bit fussy and took space in the fridge for months, so even if I loved it, I didn't repeat the process. 😅
Re: color coding, I think they both got the green tins because they're vegan. It'd be confusing to code meatless chicken the same as real chicken. It'd be asking for trouble if you had a vegan and non-vegan cooking up their pies at the same time, and being able to easily include vegans into the meat pie gang is the whole point. Different patterns on the top crust are a good solution; does their regular steak pie have stripes, too? The Mexican bakery here puts a letter cut out of dough on top of the empanadas before baking them, which is very straightforward and also an incentive to learn fruit names in Spanish. Their apple empanada says "M," and why wouldn't it?
Hi Mike, Jenny & Doggo, I recently went through a career change at the moderate age of 54. I now work for Aldi! The amount of non meat product is mind boggling!
Having been vegetarian for many years, I love the vegan Pukka pies - My favourite is the "Chicken" and mushroom. I have no problem with the texture, and forgot that the pastry would be without egg and milk too until you mentioned it! I also have the cheese and onion Pukka pie quite often, and rate that too.
I’m vegan and prefer the mince one. Recently found Tesco’s Wicked vegan cheese pasty thing wasn’t too bad. Cheese and onion pasties I often miss as they were great choice at school for lunch before going vegan (there weren’t any vegan options on the menu - even though the guidelines said there should be at least 1 a day)
I'm omnivorous, but often eat vegan/vegetarian, purely for more variety in my diet. Never heard of Nooj, but will buy some this week. My gut feeling tells me it will go much better with mashed Sweet Potato than the common variety.
Congrats on 900 000 subs! Can't wait for you to get go 1 million, this channel really deserves it. Most relaxing and informative content I've seen on youtube
My mum always used to say that 'there's no joy in a blistering hot meat based pastry product'.. and like my dear old mum, I like my pies to be cooked hot and then left to cool for a while.. my mum used to say 'you can really taste the flavour when a pie has been cooked hot, and left to cool to 54 to 67 degrees C'... my mum won awards during the 60's and 70's for her temperature perception of oven baked pies and other pastries, so she really knew her stuff - I've been thinking of starting a vlog myself, in honour of my dear old mum, where we can share ideas as to baking temperatures / techniques / the do's and dont's of microwave re-heating etc etc.. this could be a cool topic for a vlog.. what do you think ?
Do it. Worst case scenario, it doesn't work out and no one gets it. OK, not WORST case, but I figure you know internet communities are like. I know I'd like to hear what you say especially if I can learn to microwave reheat a bread or pastry product without ruining it. IT NEVER WORKS!
@@nogosnoqt I'm sincerely grateful for the encouragement, and I'm sure if my dear old mum was still alive, she would be grateful also. We shared a passion for getting the most flavour out of pre-heated pastry products (the type you buy warm and take home to eat later) but we also recognised that there are also health hazards associated with reheating pastry products, particularly those containing meat and dairy products. Few food vloggers on UA-cam have addressed such issues, so I do believe there is a gap in the market.
@@jonnyrocket3659 I'm sure most any parent would be beyond proud that they raised someone that didn't give up on their curiosity. She sounds like she was an amazing woman. Maybe give it a try to share the wisdom, skills, and know-how you've both accumulated. You can always stop if it isn't working for you, but sharing hard-earned knowledge is a very noble way to honor someone that not all of us have the opportunity to do. And do your best to stay as happy as she'd want you to be (that was so sappy, but I don't care.)
There are Vegan sausage rolls called "The No Meat Co. No Porkies Plant-Based Sausage Rolls", and I'd love to see you review them. It's a UK based company, but I bought them at Walmart. To me, the pastry tasted buttery, the minced pork was convincing and tasted better cold than warm. 😊
I started watching your scambaiting videos and some how you have managed to make me interested in mudlarking, foraging,islands you can walk to, barcode zebras ,vegan pies ,and so much more great content mate .you keep producing and I'll keep watching
As a vegan it’s beautiful to know how many options my vegan friends overseas have. Here in Australia it wasn’t that long ago that it was difficult to find vegetarian options. Nowadays it feels like my local supermarkets have some new vegan product to try every couple of weeks. I’m thankful that more companies are starting to jump on the bandwagon.
I've started adding milk substitutes instead of milk to my coffee at least a year ago, basically cutting down my milk consumption by 90%. I tried all kinds of grain and nut "milks", and they're all okay in their own right, except for soy. That just tastes like raw beans to me. Okay for savory dishes, but a no-no for anything sweet (or coffee). I eventually settled for oat drink, "barista" version, which just means it has 3.5% fat, which to me makes all the difference. All the regular grain drinks with their 0.5-1.5% fat are too watery to replace milk for me. Only marginally related, but I happened to have pasta made from nothing but edamame today for the first time. I's amazing to me how it held its shape perfectly and had a very nice chew to it. Also a pleasant, mild taste; almost - but not quite - entirely unlike wheat.
Yeah oat milk genuinely seems to be the closest you're going to get and the most versatile of all the milk substitutes, none are perfect but oat milk to me seems to have the least compromises.
Hi Atomic Shrimp. The "mince" Pukka pies are great and there is a "cheese" and onion pie too, which I like the most out of the three. I love when you try vegan products, I've been vegan over ten years myself. Always enjoy your videos!
I'm surprised they label them as 'mince' - that looks more like chunks of steak. I'd have thought labelling it as steak and onion would make it more 'premium'.
I would definitely try the dark pie that represents beef but the light coloured one I think I would pass. Your wife has a really nice speaking voice and like you comes across well on the video. I'm glad she's happy to put some input into your channel 😊
Oh my god, it would be so cool if you tried making vegan recipes in the future! You have been my passion igniter for cooking and I'm really thinking about going vegetarian or vegan next year. It would be amazing if you put your creativity towards very interesting vegan dishes or even challenges that we could try ourselves!
Another really enjoyable video. So glad I've discovered your channel. I've been binge watching and have laughed, learnt and been amazed! Please keep 'em coming! 👍
Hearing you say "I see no reason not to switch" made me so happy. These are the little victories we need to help the planet. Small changes, step by step. I'll definitely look out for these during my next shop!
No, we won’t save the world. It’s up to the mega corporations, and that’s impossible until it is profitable. BP invented carbon footprint in order to shift blame for global warming onto consumers.
This is very nice that you try those with an open mind. Most people will see " vegan " on something and assume it's bad. I mostly don't like those products, but it's nice that they exist. Keep on doing what you do Mr Irradiated Shrimp !
God awful people kinda ruined the reputation for it (Everyone knows who im referring) I think it all stems from thinking Vegans force theyre diet to other people but idgaf tbh what other people eat.
I'd recommend the original Flora or Flora light as a butter. They're both vegan! Also oat milk is generally the best plant milk taste wise and for creaminess. I believe it's only 89p a carton from Aldi.
If I can find the Nooj cashew paste, I will use it as a base for a vegan cheese. Unless you have a very powerful expensive industrial pro blender, it’s really tricky to make a thick cashew paste at home. Even in my Kenwood processor, after soaking the cashews, it takes absolutely ages to get smooth, thick cashew paste. There’s a cheese recipe on their website. I can’t wait to try it.
it took the soya milk industry a while to get a soya milk that was stable in coffee, although most none diary milks are now OK. I'd imagine for most a carton of soya/coconut/oat milk would be a lot easier and cheaper and they last ages. As a child my mum always used none diary marg and splash of soya milk in mash, and it worked OK for us
A few years back the CO-OP stocked a 'meaty' mushroom pie with a traditional high-sided water crust, it looked artisanal & handmade, and it was absolutely delicious! It was a part of a limited edition 'ready meal' promotion, so it disappeared from chiller cabinet after a month - I still miss those mushroom pies!
I really like the vegan Pukka chicken and mushroom pie. I have it quite frequently. Cool to see your overall positive sentiment towards them. Have you tried Beyond Burgers before? We really love them and non-vegan people are happy with them too. I get them from Tesco's in the freezer section, not sure what other shops have them. They're my favourite vegan burger.
Oh I don't remember the last time I had a pukka pie! Must be at least 18 years ago from the local chippy, they had a jar of pickled eggs that are probably still there to this day. Will certainly grab some of these if anywhere sells them locally.
I think you did a good job, reviewing these plant based products. Remember, many people who choose to not eat meat, dairy or eggs, do so because of their understanding that they can survive and indeed, thrive, on this lifestyle. Many more choose this lifestyle because they do not want to add to the suffering innocent animals are subjected to every day, so that supermarkets can stock meat, dairy and eggs their shelves. This is important to many, if not most Vegans and Vegetarians.
If I want something browner in the oven without moisture loss, I will blast it up to 240 Celsius for 5 to ten mins right at the end. Depends how fast your oven is. Works for me. Interesting vid as always from the Crustacean what blows up the Geiger!
Love watching these videos, vegan myself for a year now so interesting to see your take. I know currently this series is purely about taste but I think it’s also worth noting the huge environmental differences in, say, a vegan steak pie vs a meat one, as ultimately another reason why people go vegan is for the planet.
Always nice to see a sucess story like the mince and onion version of these vegan pies. Definitely disappointing that the chicken pie doesn't have more mushroom, but then they are relatively expensive and always seem nearly absent in most steak and mushroom pies. If I guess if we want really good filling, gotta cook our own. Sadly can't really allow myself the pastry unless I want to do an extra gym session or two. (And I don't)
I'm trying to reduce my dairy usage and have found cashew milk in a carton very difficult to find. Making my own however has been slightly cheaper than buying other nut milks and the nearest I've found to actual whole milk. Cashew milk is not perfect, but my suspicion is that the diluted ratio of the Nooj (along with its other ingredients) is too weak. If you haven't already, it's worth trying home made cashew milk
If you're trying to find the closest plant milk to actual dairy then chances are you've skipped straight past the cheapest soya milk the supermarket has to offer but that's where you'll find it.
I just settled on oat milk, seemed the most versatile... but then I got bored of paying so much for it and really not using much at all (don't drink milk, like black coffee etc) so just stopped.
@@Moghause everyone seems to say pretty much the same thing, but I get an odd undertone of almost cucumber flavour to it and I can't get past it frustratingly, otherwise it'd be a far cheaper option
@@Moghause I do not like soy milk in coffee. Cashew milk is fine, but I add the tiniest bit of neutral-tasting oil and a TINY amount of MSG granules to the whole batch to make it slightly more dairy-like. The MSG granules also help with non-dairy butter substitutes in baked goods; vegan versions sometimes taste as if they’re missing something, and I find that it’s the faint umami taste that you’d get from real milk/butter.
@@vampiric05 I know the flavour you're on about. It tends to disappear in tea, coffee and cereals, especially the sweetened variety, but I couldn't chug soya milk on its own. You're on the money with a rich homemade cashew milk being the closest to dairy for that job.
I'm allergic to dairy so raw cashews blended into a cream is my go to replacement. To me it tastes very close to what I remember milk to taste like. I don't know what I'd do if I couldn't eat nuts! 😅
Nooj reminded me of a great vegie pie that used to be served in a local restaurant. It was topped with a thick savoury cashew paste which browned up when baked.
You used to see lit up Pukka signs bolted to the outside of many fish and chip shops in the 70's and 80's. And even into the 2000's. A very rare sight now, sadly. A soggy steak and kidney pie, chips and gravy soaked in vinigar and salt wrapped up in paper was an absolute pleasure to recive from my dad after he'd done a stint in his Taxi. God I love my dad. :)
ty for the heads up they sell not chicken and mushroom pie in sainsburys. we are vegaterians, with dairy intolerance, but chicken and mushroom pie is what i most miss i really hate the spicy stuff they usally have instead. next visit i know what will end up in my trolley
Ooh you use a french press! I would love to know your methods/ratios and what you do with the grounds when its done one day =D my late partners favourite pie was also steak and kidney. Its hard to find a good one here in vancouver but i had a good laugh when you revealed your favourite. Not a very common top choice over here either ;)
I like my mashed potatoes the same way Mr.Shrimp 👍. I usually watch the scambaiting videos but after watching you forage in another video I decided to watch more. They're very calming
@@IntegriTee his food challenges are really fun too. he is really creative when it comes to using limited ingredients and the foraging trips are super cool!
@@oatmilk9918 They sound cool, his foraging was nice to watch while I worked. He has such a storyteller voice it makes all the videos an experience lol
All the power to you! It's cool to see you try lots of vegan stuff and it's always things that we don't have here in Sweden which makes it more interesting :)
As you were ending with the pies, I was thinking it would be great if you could make some Tea or coffee with that leftover Cashew paste & Bam.! You did it..😄
@@therealryan1329 Even so, what does that have to do with the animal victims? Some vegans are assoles (I actually agree), but why take it out on the animals? They have done nothing wrong
@@therealryan1329 I agree, some people can take it too far. but from my experience, people don't usually have a problem with me being a vegetarian. They do however have a problem with the food. "oh that's vegan/vegetarian? no, I don't eat that stuff." I'm not gonna force my lifestyle on someone, but I also expect other people to respect my choices as well. Just because there are a few extreme vegans/vegetarians out there, doesn't mean you have to discriminate against all of them cause trust me, we find those people insufferable too.
@@elanakateman4741 absolutely I completely agree. I was careful to say generally not all for that reason but perhaps I should have said the ones I've met maybe? You probably don't have that experience because you are a person that just happens to be vegetarian/vegan. Its not your entire personality. I don't eat that stuff because vegetables mostly make me gag. If synthetic meat ever gets to a stage that it is indistinguishable from animal meat then I would absolutely make the switch.
I like the idea of the cashew paste... I'll give that a try!😎 I often put cashew nuts into parsnip soup I make myself and once it's all blended smooth, it tastes wonderfully creamy! You can also get similar effects and taste from adding wholegrain basmati rice to soups and stews and blending that too... makes soups and stews taste like milk has been added. I'm not keen on those vegan Pukka pies... I tried them once, seemed pretty bland to me. I had a vegan Cornish pasty recently by a company based in Devon, they mainly sell meat pies, but the one vegan pasty they do is free of the dreaded rubbery fake meat, stuffed full of quality chunks of veg and has virtually the same flavour as another well known meat and veg pasty from a company in Cornwall. It proved to me that so many vegan products are horribly bland and really don't need to be. Here's a tip for lovers of gravy who've turned veggie or vegan... when it comes to Bisto, don't bother with the veggie version, just buy the ordinary chicken or beef gravy, they have no meat stock in them at all... the only gravy from Bisto that claims to have meat stock is their 'best range'... which I personally feel is not their best tasting gravy at all... just more expensive. I really don't know why they hide the fact there is no meat involved in their main chicken and beef gravies and why their veggie alternative is so revolting when they make their other gravy without meat stock. If you doubt the ingredients in their standard chicken/beef gravy... just look them up on any online supermarket.
You can get vegan versions of Coffeemate, which is what I would use in drinks. I never have milk often enough that I can get through a carton of alternative milk before it goes off.
@@ApexHerbivore kind of, there's not really any ketchup in Aus, they're tomato sauce, they give you the little sauce packet separately and you put it on yourself.
I am dreaming of having mash and gravy and pie come the autumn. I really would like though if there was a simple vegetable pie available. I love a vegetable pie...
If you fancy another vegan pie-off , I (fellow omnivore) would recommend trying Ginsters Moroccan Vegan Vegetable Pasty or Bombay Potato & Spinach Pasty - not "faux meat-y" but nicely spicy and flavoursome..
Some of the vegan beef stuff iv tried in the past does go a bit too heavy on the yeast extract. I picked up a couple of reduced to clear vegan beef slices a while back and couldn't help thinking they would be better off being branded as a marmite product as the yeast extract was the overriding flavour. I'm not sure even a vegetarian or vegan would find them a convincing substitute
I had a thought. I wonder if you could take a teaspoon of the Nooj, water it down and brush on the pies before cooking? It would be a slightly fatty, rich layer and might brown in the oven. What do people think? I’ve tried to put some on my grocery list but it’s always put of stock so maybe it’s being trialled near Mike. I’ll keep trying.
Clives Pies have been around a long time and have a wide range of flavours. I think they are better than Pukka (relative newcomers). The cashew thing is interesting and can be used to make vegan 'cheese' you can do it yourself but might be handy to have this! It always beats me why people want it to be 'like meat'. Is it tasty??
I wish we had these here in The Netherlands. Not just the vegan ones, but any of these pies. I've never seen them here, but they look really good. I'm sure Dutch people would eat these if we had them available.
think about this, plants are covered in flies and other bugs, i doubt they can clean off 100% of them, so some bugs will be in your food, you are eating meat, haha
@@danpreston564 I make fermented almond cheese using almond flour a quarter cup boiling water and a quarter cup wild brine sauerkraut brine. It's fluffy and deliciously sour. 24 hours on the counter top then into the fridge. Thank you for the tip on cashew cheese
Weird Fruit Explorer did a series of videos evaluating nut-based milk substitutes, using coffee as one of the tests, and he also found they tend to separate that way.
I'm a little confused about these vegan pies. On the box it said it may contain milk. Did you you miss this Mr. Shrimp? :)
Allergen labelling vs Vegan labelling. In order to remove the warning about milk, they might need to build a separate factory.
www.vegansociety.com/news/blog/TM2021/allergen-vs-vegan-labelling
Yeah, a lot of these products are made in factories that handle other products which contain allergens. I have an egg allergy so I can't eat things that are made in a factory that handles eggs.
@@AtomicShrimp That makes sense! Thanks kindly for clarifying. :)
@@sengokunadekochan are you a NaN by any chance?🤔 [edit - Oh rats, I meant to say " but you're an exception" , then follow it with the NaN bit😉]
@@AtomicShrimp Yes and vegans may be happy to consider it vegan even if it accidentally contains traces of milk. They're not demanding or paying for the milk, so they're not directly supporting the dairy industry by buying it.
Thank you Jenny for being patient and letting us weirdos intrude on your dinners, you have an awesome husband.
Yay nice to see. My daughter is the food technologist that invented and trialled the vegan range at the Pukka factory @ Syston. Still waiting for
my (hopefully) free sample pies from the factory shop. I am vegan so would love to try as a treat,
She did a great job!
These pies are my favourite Veganised products. They are simply delicious, the pastry is super tasty too. Pukka No pork pies were nomulous too, but think these may be, sadly, discontinued as not seen them in supermarkets for months.
Ooh could you ask her if they reduced the salt since launch? If so I might try them again
I love these pies, please give your daughter a big thumbs up from me 👍
The mince pies are fantastic 👍.
mr shrimp is truly the wholesome uncle we all need. ive had a shite day and now im just peacefully letting mr shrimp wrap my brain in a warm blanket of food reviews u_u
Hope you have a better day tomorrow 💪👍🏼
his videos are the best before bed
hang in there, buddy.
Austria has different words for texture differences in mashed potato. Very smooth mashed potato is called Pürree, mashed with structure is called Sterz.
Haha that's cool, in Germany it's Püree and Stampf (as in Kartoffelstampf or Stampfkartoffeln, depending on the region) :)
Same in Czechia, mashed potatoes are a different meal from potato puree
I had the "Minced Steak and Onion" one from the local Co-Op reduced as they didnt sell. Not been vegan long, but it actually tasted a lot meatier than a lot of these style pies these days. Was more than pleasantly surprised.
The wife and I are absolutely professionals at picking the hottest day of summer to do something like bake a meatloaf or roast a whole chicken or loin of pork. It's pretty much happened every single year of the dozen or so years we've been cooking and eating together, and I'm telling you it's without fail. Lol. 🤣
I love getting to see you share a meal with your significant other. She's awesome for being in videos, too.
I got roped into cooking at a huge family BBQ on one of the other hottest days of the year. The only thing that was good about it is when I eventually stepped away from the hearth, it felt like a lovely spring day to me.
Also, I love Mrs Atomic: her response to everything is "yeah, it's alright!"
I feel she’s learned the art of diplomacy!
@@dees3179She’s just british
Well, if she really enjoys one of mr. Shrimps food creations, she says “Yes. This really nice.”
I think she is a really kind human being.
I’m a bit of a noncommittal vegetarian. I like to add in veggie or vegan options into my diet when I get the chance, but I’m not super rigorous about it and still eat meat on occasion, especially if I’m not the one cooking. I really like these videos because I think more omnivores should be considering vegan or vegetarian options from time to time. Your reviews are always very fair, and I appreciate that you don’t waste our time by just being negative or saying over and over again that the products are worse than meat and will never compare.
i think they refer to that as "flexitarian." ive been striving for more meatless options myself, as well as using tiny portions of ground meats for flavor with a big pile of minced mushrooms and veggies. obv that wouldnt make a meatloaf or burger but makes great tacos or potstickers. this is just for health purposes as meat is my favorite food but im not as young as i used to be.
@WindowsLogic Productions you do you! very weird response to my comment though.
@@singerofsongssit's not weird
really interesting, i'd be interested to see an episode of different milk substitutes - rice, almond, cashew, oat, hemp etc and see how they stand up in different situations - cooking, baking, drinking etc
I've noticed that even between brands the taste can vary a lot. I quite like Almond Breeze in every flavor, but the Whole Foods brand of Almond Milk had a strange taste that I found to be pretty bad, reminded me of an uncooked cake mix or something.
Hi Atomic Shrimp, thank you for your video. I mix a tablesooon or two of soy milk with a pinch of tumeric as a wash for my vegan pies. The tumeric gives the golden colour. I so enjoy your food budget challenge videos. Hopefully you will produce more, although they probably take a long time to produce. Take care Gale🙏
What a great tip - thank you! I do miss having a glossy, golden pastry so this will be brilliant :)
I'll give that a try if I make some pies of my own. I felt like it was important to bake these as they were, as a fair test.
Brilliant tip.
i've used soya milk for a long time, but never thought to add turmeric. Thank you.
Thanks, I'll try that - although I find the Pukka pies brown up nicely in my air fryer anyway 👍
The cashew paste makes me think of a cashew white cheese substitute we have here in Poland from brand called "vege siostry". It comes in a puck and is supposed to imitate fresh white cheese, often with additional stuff like paprika, seaweed, onions etc. Honestly it's genuinely good and could have fooled me since they actually add cultures to it so it has an actual fresh cheese taste and smell to it. They also have a spreadable "cream cheese" version. I love them but it's a rare treat because they are absurdly expensive, like 4 pounds for an amount that would normally cost maybe a couple of pences if it was normal dairy but I do like it. And guess makes sense, cashews are expensive.
They also make a parmesan substitute which is basically just nutritional yeast with cashew bits and butter-shaped margarine, also with cashew bits.
That's what I was thinking too. wish he had spread it on a cracker or something...
I saw their vegan camembert, but it was insanely expensive, about the price of premium organic camembert wheel directly imported from France. I bought one time their vegan butter, because it was discounted, still very expensive, but the cheapest I could expect - it was very tasty, I didn't eat real butter for over 10 years and don't buy vegan substitutes usually, it tasted indeed quite buttery thank to cultures they put in their vegan dairy.
Few years ago I bought vegan cultures for blue cheese and made it (I loved blue cheese as vegetarian, I miss nothing of dairy or eggs, but blue cheese was delicious and I wanted to eat it vegan, but store bought has no blue stripes and isn't as good), it was very tasty as well, but the process was lengthy, a bit fussy and took space in the fridge for months, so even if I loved it, I didn't repeat the process. 😅
Re: color coding, I think they both got the green tins because they're vegan. It'd be confusing to code meatless chicken the same as real chicken. It'd be asking for trouble if you had a vegan and non-vegan cooking up their pies at the same time, and being able to easily include vegans into the meat pie gang is the whole point.
Different patterns on the top crust are a good solution; does their regular steak pie have stripes, too? The Mexican bakery here puts a letter cut out of dough on top of the empanadas before baking them, which is very straightforward and also an incentive to learn fruit names in Spanish. Their apple empanada says "M," and why wouldn't it?
You could add stripes to the vegan tins, or something like that and otherwise keep the color coding the same.
I feel like a light green and a dark green colour wouldn't be too much to ask. It's nice to have easily differentiable food types where possible.
Hi Mike, Jenny & Doggo, I recently went through a career change at the moderate age of 54. I now work for Aldi! The amount of non meat product is mind boggling!
Having been vegetarian for many years, I love the vegan Pukka pies - My favourite is the "Chicken" and mushroom. I have no problem with the texture, and forgot that the pastry would be without egg and milk too until you mentioned it! I also have the cheese and onion Pukka pie quite often, and rate that too.
I’m vegan and prefer the mince one. Recently found Tesco’s Wicked vegan cheese pasty thing wasn’t too bad. Cheese and onion pasties I often miss as they were great choice at school for lunch before going vegan (there weren’t any vegan options on the menu - even though the guidelines said there should be at least 1 a day)
I'm omnivorous, but often eat vegan/vegetarian, purely for more variety in my diet.
Never heard of Nooj, but will buy some this week.
My gut feeling tells me it will go much better with mashed Sweet Potato than the common variety.
“Nice Gusset”
Just like Steve MRE, AtomicShrimp appreciates a good gusset.
A nod to one legend from another?
I'm a bit concerned about Steve - I haven't seen a new video from him in a long time.
Don’t we all…..
@@brianartillery Wouldn't worry too much just yet, stranger. He regularly goes a number of months between releases.
@@brianartillery Yes what happened to Steve ?
Congrats on 900 000 subs! Can't wait for you to get go 1 million, this channel really deserves it. Most relaxing and informative content I've seen on youtube
My heart melted with him and his wife. So cute
My mum always used to say that 'there's no joy in a blistering hot meat based pastry product'.. and like my dear old mum, I like my pies to be cooked hot and then left to cool for a while.. my mum used to say 'you can really taste the flavour when a pie has been cooked hot, and left to cool to 54 to 67 degrees C'... my mum won awards during the 60's and 70's for her temperature perception of oven baked pies and other pastries, so she really knew her stuff - I've been thinking of starting a vlog myself, in honour of my dear old mum, where we can share ideas as to baking temperatures / techniques / the do's and dont's of microwave re-heating etc etc.. this could be a cool topic for a vlog.. what do you think ?
Sharing knowledge is always good idea!
Do it. Worst case scenario, it doesn't work out and no one gets it. OK, not WORST case, but I figure you know internet communities are like. I know I'd like to hear what you say especially if I can learn to microwave reheat a bread or pastry product without ruining it. IT NEVER WORKS!
I went ahead and subscribed to you in case you decided to try it. I hope you do: it sounds like you have treasures you could share.
@@nogosnoqt I'm sincerely grateful for the encouragement, and I'm sure if my dear old mum was still alive, she would be grateful also. We shared a passion for getting the most flavour out of pre-heated pastry products (the type you buy warm and take home to eat later) but we also recognised that there are also health hazards associated with reheating pastry products, particularly those containing meat and dairy products. Few food vloggers on UA-cam have addressed such issues, so I do believe there is a gap in the market.
@@jonnyrocket3659 I'm sure most any parent would be beyond proud that they raised someone that didn't give up on their curiosity. She sounds like she was an amazing woman.
Maybe give it a try to share the wisdom, skills, and know-how you've both accumulated. You can always stop if it isn't working for you, but sharing hard-earned knowledge is a very noble way to honor someone that not all of us have the opportunity to do.
And do your best to stay as happy as she'd want you to be (that was so sappy, but I don't care.)
There are Vegan sausage rolls called "The No Meat Co. No Porkies Plant-Based Sausage Rolls", and I'd love to see you review them. It's a UK based company, but I bought them at Walmart. To me, the pastry tasted buttery, the minced pork was convincing and tasted better cold than warm. 😊
That brand is sold in Iceland the freezer shop in UK.
I started watching your scambaiting videos and some how you have managed to make me interested in mudlarking, foraging,islands you can walk to, barcode zebras ,vegan pies ,and so much more great content mate .you keep producing and I'll keep watching
As a vegan it’s beautiful to know how many options my vegan friends overseas have. Here in Australia it wasn’t that long ago that it was difficult to find vegetarian options. Nowadays it feels like my local supermarkets have some new vegan product to try every couple of weeks. I’m thankful that more companies are starting to jump on the bandwagon.
I've started adding milk substitutes instead of milk to my coffee at least a year ago, basically cutting down my milk consumption by 90%. I tried all kinds of grain and nut "milks", and they're all okay in their own right, except for soy. That just tastes like raw beans to me. Okay for savory dishes, but a no-no for anything sweet (or coffee). I eventually settled for oat drink, "barista" version, which just means it has 3.5% fat, which to me makes all the difference. All the regular grain drinks with their 0.5-1.5% fat are too watery to replace milk for me.
Only marginally related, but I happened to have pasta made from nothing but edamame today for the first time. I's amazing to me how it held its shape perfectly and had a very nice chew to it. Also a pleasant, mild taste; almost - but not quite - entirely unlike wheat.
Yeah oat milk genuinely seems to be the closest you're going to get and the most versatile of all the milk substitutes, none are perfect but oat milk to me seems to have the least compromises.
3,5% fat is about what real milk has. Oat milk is also much more sustainable than the nut milks
Hi Atomic Shrimp. The "mince" Pukka pies are great and there is a "cheese" and onion pie too, which I like the most out of the three. I love when you try vegan products, I've been vegan over ten years myself. Always enjoy your videos!
I'm surprised they label them as 'mince' - that looks more like chunks of steak. I'd have thought labelling it as steak and onion would make it more 'premium'.
I would definitely try the dark pie that represents beef but the light coloured one I think I would pass.
Your wife has a really nice speaking voice and like you comes across well on the video.
I'm glad she's happy to put some input into your channel 😊
Oh my god, it would be so cool if you tried making vegan recipes in the future!
You have been my passion igniter for cooking and I'm really thinking about going vegetarian or vegan next year. It would be amazing if you put your creativity towards very interesting vegan dishes or even challenges that we could try ourselves!
Great content as always Mike
Always love when Jenny does a cameo ❤️
We absolutely need more vegan content! 🌱
Love this aspect of your channel!
As a vegetarian, I love your veg/vegan reviews; they always give me ideas of what I could eat!
That looked absolutely delicious Mr Shrimp. Thanks for sharing. You are a generous Soul!
Another really enjoyable video.
So glad I've discovered your channel. I've been binge watching and have laughed, learnt and been amazed!
Please keep 'em coming! 👍
Hearing you say "I see no reason not to switch" made me so happy. These are the little victories we need to help the planet. Small changes, step by step. I'll definitely look out for these during my next shop!
Groan.
@rambunctiousvegetable milky toast doesn't sound very tasty...
No, we won’t save the world. It’s up to the mega corporations, and that’s impossible until it is profitable. BP invented carbon footprint in order to shift blame for global warming onto consumers.
This is very nice that you try those with an open mind. Most people will see " vegan " on something and assume it's bad. I mostly don't like those products, but it's nice that they exist. Keep on doing what you do Mr Irradiated Shrimp !
God awful people kinda ruined the reputation for it (Everyone knows who im referring)
I think it all stems from thinking Vegans force theyre diet to other people
but idgaf tbh what other people eat.
These videos with Jenny are awesome, its always good to get another persons input
A good review of the products. Thanks to Jenny too for her valuble input.
I'd recommend the original Flora or Flora light as a butter. They're both vegan! Also oat milk is generally the best plant milk taste wise and for creaminess. I believe it's only 89p a carton from Aldi.
Jenny is a champ. Cheers to you both!
If I can find the Nooj cashew paste, I will use it as a base for a vegan cheese. Unless you have a very powerful expensive industrial pro blender, it’s really tricky to make a thick cashew paste at home. Even in my Kenwood processor, after soaking the cashews, it takes absolutely ages to get smooth, thick cashew paste. There’s a cheese recipe on their website. I can’t wait to try it.
The little handheld blenders for making soup are pretty good at blending cashews down
I eat the Pukka vegan pies regularly - I cook them in an air fryer and the pastry comes out very well browned.
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There looks to be so many awesome vegan substitutes over there. We are slowly getting more here in Australia, so exciting!
You are an interesting human being. Always looking for different ways to entertain us. Thank you.
it took the soya milk industry a while to get a soya milk that was stable in coffee, although most none diary milks are now OK. I'd imagine for most a carton of soya/coconut/oat milk would be a lot easier and cheaper and they last ages. As a child my mum always used none diary marg and splash of soya milk in mash, and it worked OK for us
I’ve tried these pies & for a vegan pie very yummy 😋 Have it with mash potato & peas 👍Great review 🤗
This is the content I need. Should I be buying specific pies or not.
A few years back the CO-OP stocked a 'meaty' mushroom pie with a traditional high-sided water crust, it looked artisanal & handmade, and it was absolutely delicious! It was a part of a limited edition 'ready meal' promotion, so it disappeared from chiller cabinet after a month - I still miss those mushroom pies!
I really like the vegan Pukka chicken and mushroom pie. I have it quite frequently. Cool to see your overall positive sentiment towards them.
Have you tried Beyond Burgers before? We really love them and non-vegan people are happy with them too. I get them from Tesco's in the freezer section, not sure what other shops have them. They're my favourite vegan burger.
Oh I don't remember the last time I had a pukka pie!
Must be at least 18 years ago from the local chippy, they had a jar of pickled eggs that are probably still there to this day.
Will certainly grab some of these if anywhere sells them locally.
Go for the Chicken in Gravy or Chicken Balti
Pukka Pies - no compromise.
*Except homemade
The chicken balti has seen a significant reduction in chicken since everything went up in price.
They sell them in Sainsbury’s.
I think you did a good job, reviewing these plant based products. Remember, many people who choose to not eat meat, dairy or eggs, do so because of their understanding that they can survive and indeed, thrive, on this lifestyle. Many more choose this lifestyle because they do not want to add to the suffering innocent animals are subjected to every day, so that supermarkets can stock meat, dairy and eggs their shelves. This is important to many, if not most Vegans and Vegetarians.
If I want something browner in the oven without moisture loss, I will blast it up to 240 Celsius for 5 to ten mins right at the end. Depends how fast your oven is. Works for me. Interesting vid as always from the Crustacean what blows up the Geiger!
This channel is so wholesome 😊
These are some of my favourite vegan pies! I always appreciate your fair and honest reviews!
Love watching these videos, vegan myself for a year now so interesting to see your take. I know currently this series is purely about taste but I think it’s also worth noting the huge environmental differences in, say, a vegan steak pie vs a meat one, as ultimately another reason why people go vegan is for the planet.
Always nice to see a sucess story like the mince and onion version of these vegan pies. Definitely disappointing that the chicken pie doesn't have more mushroom, but then they are relatively expensive and always seem nearly absent in most steak and mushroom pies. If I guess if we want really good filling, gotta cook our own. Sadly can't really allow myself the pastry unless I want to do an extra gym session or two. (And I don't)
I'm trying to reduce my dairy usage and have found cashew milk in a carton very difficult to find. Making my own however has been slightly cheaper than buying other nut milks and the nearest I've found to actual whole milk. Cashew milk is not perfect, but my suspicion is that the diluted ratio of the Nooj (along with its other ingredients) is too weak.
If you haven't already, it's worth trying home made cashew milk
If you're trying to find the closest plant milk to actual dairy then chances are you've skipped straight past the cheapest soya milk the supermarket has to offer but that's where you'll find it.
I just settled on oat milk, seemed the most versatile... but then I got bored of paying so much for it and really not using much at all (don't drink milk, like black coffee etc) so just stopped.
@@Moghause everyone seems to say pretty much the same thing, but I get an odd undertone of almost cucumber flavour to it and I can't get past it frustratingly, otherwise it'd be a far cheaper option
@@Moghause I do not like soy milk in coffee. Cashew milk is fine, but I add the tiniest bit of neutral-tasting oil and a TINY amount of MSG granules to the whole batch to make it slightly more dairy-like. The MSG granules also help with non-dairy butter substitutes in baked goods; vegan versions sometimes taste as if they’re missing something, and I find that it’s the faint umami taste that you’d get from real milk/butter.
@@vampiric05 I know the flavour you're on about. It tends to disappear in tea, coffee and cereals, especially the sweetened variety, but I couldn't chug soya milk on its own. You're on the money with a rich homemade cashew milk being the closest to dairy for that job.
What a dearie your wife is for enoying ( putting up with!?) your kitchen schennanigans with you. Thank you for another pleasant video
The chip shop pies I remember were always Hollands. Only saw the Pukka brand when I moved down South.
Yes, I’m in Lancashire and never seen a Pukka pie. Holland’s are the brand around here, especially from a chippy.
@@moonloversheila8238 in the midlands the Pukka ones are used, not sure about further south
A little gloss on top of the pies with some kind of milk can help crisp the top a bit more
I'm allergic to dairy so raw cashews blended into a cream is my go to replacement. To me it tastes very close to what I remember milk to taste like. I don't know what I'd do if I couldn't eat nuts! 😅
You're allergic to margarine too?
@@BrunodeSouzaLinolove to have margarine in my coffee 💀
Nooj reminded me of a great vegie pie that used to be served in a local restaurant. It was topped with a thick savoury cashew paste which browned up when baked.
You used to see lit up Pukka signs bolted to the outside of many fish and chip shops in the 70's and 80's. And even into the 2000's. A very rare sight now, sadly.
A soggy steak and kidney pie, chips and gravy soaked in vinigar and salt wrapped up in paper was an absolute pleasure to recive from my dad after he'd done a stint in his Taxi. God I love my dad. :)
Presumably you could use the "nooj" as a milk wash for the pies?
Probably. I wanted to test them in their normal presentation though
Using "Just egg" (a phenomenal vegan egg substitute) would be better
ty for the heads up they sell not chicken and mushroom pie in sainsburys. we are vegaterians, with dairy intolerance, but chicken and mushroom pie is what i most miss i really hate the spicy stuff they usally have instead. next visit i know what will end up in my trolley
Ooh you use a french press! I would love to know your methods/ratios and what you do with the grounds when its done one day =D
my late partners favourite pie was also steak and kidney. Its hard to find a good one here in vancouver but i had a good laugh when you revealed your favourite. Not a very common top choice over here either ;)
I like my mashed potatoes the same way Mr.Shrimp 👍. I usually watch the scambaiting videos but after watching you forage in another video I decided to watch more. They're very calming
I recommend his "weird stuff in a can" series
@@Falcon532. Sounds promising. I'll check it out
@@IntegriTee his food challenges are really fun too. he is really creative when it comes to using limited ingredients and the foraging trips are super cool!
@@oatmilk9918 They sound cool, his foraging was nice to watch while I worked. He has such a storyteller voice it makes all the videos an experience lol
The casual 'nice gusset' is classic Shrimp - never change
All the power to you!
It's cool to see you try lots of vegan stuff and it's always things that we don't have here in Sweden which makes it more interesting :)
I really like that when you're trying vegan stuff you make sure to make the whole meal vegan 😊
You should definitely try the Pieminister range of vegan pies, they're my favourite so far although a bit pricier
Watching this at 10.10pm and you're making me hungry, I love them vegan pies!
I love your down-to-earth, honest, chill reviews. Thanks so much! Watched this while trying some Vegan Wicked ravioli haha
I love that ravioli
As you were ending with the pies, I was thinking it would be great if you could make some Tea or coffee with that leftover Cashew paste & Bam.! You did it..😄
it's nice to see how people who aren't vegan or vegetarian try something vegan and not be immediately biased against it
Yes, I love that!
It's not the foods most people are biased against. It's the vegans themselves.
Generally insufferable I have to say
@@therealryan1329 Even so, what does that have to do with the animal victims? Some vegans are assoles (I actually agree), but why take it out on the animals? They have done nothing wrong
@@therealryan1329 I agree, some people can take it too far. but from my experience, people don't usually have a problem with me being a vegetarian. They do however have a problem with the food. "oh that's vegan/vegetarian? no, I don't eat that stuff."
I'm not gonna force my lifestyle on someone, but I also expect other people to respect my choices as well. Just because there are a few extreme vegans/vegetarians out there, doesn't mean you have to discriminate against all of them cause trust me, we find those people insufferable too.
@@elanakateman4741 absolutely I completely agree. I was careful to say generally not all for that reason but perhaps I should have said the ones I've met maybe?
You probably don't have that experience because you are a person that just happens to be vegetarian/vegan. Its not your entire personality. I don't eat that stuff because vegetables mostly make me gag. If synthetic meat ever gets to a stage that it is indistinguishable from animal meat then I would absolutely make the switch.
That Nooj product looks really interesting. I haven’t seen anything like it where I live.
Would love to see a seitan based 'chicken' pie - just seems like it's the almost ideal use for it in a thick herby sauce.
I have been vegan nearly two years and absolutely love puka vegan pies. Great video thank you.
Great video. Thanks.
I do have one question. What makes a good gusset, and what does a gusset do??
I like the idea of the cashew paste... I'll give that a try!😎 I often put cashew nuts into parsnip soup I make myself and once it's all blended smooth, it tastes wonderfully creamy! You can also get similar effects and taste from adding wholegrain basmati rice to soups and stews and blending that too... makes soups and stews taste like milk has been added. I'm not keen on those vegan Pukka pies... I tried them once, seemed pretty bland to me. I had a vegan Cornish pasty recently by a company based in Devon, they mainly sell meat pies, but the one vegan pasty they do is free of the dreaded rubbery fake meat, stuffed full of quality chunks of veg and has virtually the same flavour as another well known meat and veg pasty from a company in Cornwall. It proved to me that so many vegan products are horribly bland and really don't need to be. Here's a tip for lovers of gravy who've turned veggie or vegan... when it comes to Bisto, don't bother with the veggie version, just buy the ordinary chicken or beef gravy, they have no meat stock in them at all... the only gravy from Bisto that claims to have meat stock is their 'best range'... which I personally feel is not their best tasting gravy at all... just more expensive. I really don't know why they hide the fact there is no meat involved in their main chicken and beef gravies and why their veggie alternative is so revolting when they make their other gravy without meat stock. If you doubt the ingredients in their standard chicken/beef gravy... just look them up on any online supermarket.
Very informative, thanks for the reviews.
As some one who is extremely lactose intolerant, would be cool if these pies came to the states, far too many food products are made with dairy in it.
You can get vegan versions of Coffeemate, which is what I would use in drinks. I never have milk often enough that I can get through a carton of alternative milk before it goes off.
Yes, I've been using nut milks for a while - I'd say "lacking something" is a good description.
is it the exploited animal?
Those pies looks pretty good. Most Australian meat pies crusts is double that thickness and skimp down on the fillings.
When I was in Aus 20 years ago there were pies that came with a dollop of ketchup in the middle. Is that still a thing?
@@ApexHerbivore kind of, there's not really any ketchup in Aus, they're tomato sauce, they give you the little sauce packet separately and you put it on yourself.
Mashews lol that company missed a brilliant naming opportunity! That got me way harder then it should have...thanks for the laugh Jonny.
Another great video, Mike. You do manage to make the mundane interesting; Always 👍. Did Jenny lick her plate clean?
I am dreaming of having mash and gravy and pie come the autumn. I really would like though if there was a simple vegetable pie available. I love a vegetable pie...
If you fancy another vegan pie-off , I (fellow omnivore) would recommend trying Ginsters Moroccan Vegan Vegetable Pasty or Bombay Potato & Spinach Pasty - not "faux meat-y" but nicely spicy and flavoursome..
I love my mash with texture too, for rustic mash ill leave the skins on! 😋
Another insightful video .cheers mate
Some of the vegan beef stuff iv tried in the past does go a bit too heavy on the yeast extract. I picked up a couple of reduced to clear vegan beef slices a while back and couldn't help thinking they would be better off being branded as a marmite product as the yeast extract was the overriding flavour. I'm not sure even a vegetarian or vegan would find them a convincing substitute
I had a thought. I wonder if you could take a teaspoon of the Nooj, water it down and brush on the pies before cooking? It would be a slightly fatty, rich layer and might brown in the oven. What do people think?
I’ve tried to put some on my grocery list but it’s always put of stock so maybe it’s being trialled near Mike. I’ll keep trying.
Clives Pies have been around a long time and have a wide range of flavours. I think they are better than Pukka (relative newcomers). The cashew thing is interesting and can be used to make vegan 'cheese' you can do it yourself but might be handy to have this! It always beats me why people want it to be 'like meat'. Is it tasty??
I wish we had these here in The Netherlands. Not just the vegan ones, but any of these pies. I've never seen them here, but they look really good. I'm sure Dutch people would eat these if we had them available.
Have you tried the Quorn "chicken and bacon" lattices? I find most stuff from the brand a bit dull, but this one I found surprisingly good!
Everything looks like it turned out really good.
Great video as always 👍👍
Thank you for featuring vegan products, it's always appreciated!
think about this, plants are covered in flies and other bugs, i doubt they can clean off 100% of them, so some bugs will be in your food, you are eating meat, haha
@@robchissy Okay 👍
@@robchissy they probably spray them with insecticide (usually neonicotinomides).
@@robchissy wow, what an original comment I've never seen before. you truly are one of the greatest philosophers of our time.
@NoWay Yahweh Yes! I think I saw you in her stream yesterday, I recognize your username. Small world ;)
I have used a small amount of Marmite in water, to glaze pies before - it works, and is Vegan friendly, although I'm an omnivore.
Interesting reviews! I may try soaking cashews in water and blending them to see how the work in cooking.
If you blend them and add pro biotic powder it matures into a really nice soft 'cheese'.
@@danpreston564 I make fermented almond cheese using almond flour a quarter cup boiling water and a quarter cup wild brine sauerkraut brine. It's fluffy and deliciously sour. 24 hours on the counter top then into the fridge. Thank you for the tip on cashew cheese
Weird Fruit Explorer did a series of videos evaluating nut-based milk substitutes, using coffee as one of the tests, and he also found they tend to separate that way.