Train SLAMS into MOVIE Cars
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- Опубліковано 21 тра 2023
- The cars this train hit were far from ordinary. They were likely headed to the set of a new TV show.
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This accident was completely preventable. There are blue or white plate with a phone number and crossing ID. Calling that number when you get stuck, it's imperative that is the first thing that you do. Seems like every LEO should have this training but they dont. Then they wait too late to call the railroads when that should be done immediately by the stuck vehicle operator or who ever else is around .
Why the heck didn't the police call the number on that blue and white tag??? Seems like they all should be trained to do that.
Dispatch was on the phone with the railroad
@@antoniolewis1089 Which adds 3, 4, 5 minutes to the time until the railroad gets notified. Cops have phones, Use 'em!
@@antoniolewis1089 The first officer was there for over 5.5 mins when the gates start going down. Had they called that number the second they saw that crossing that train easily would have stopped.
@Antonio Lewis Which is stupid because dispatch wouldn't have the crossing number unless they contacted the cops back and asked them to read it off.
Meanwhile, the crossing sign has the crossing number to report the issue for a reason.
I like the delay in response when the cop asked how fast the train was going, as if he was gonna give them a ticket or something.
Thats everyone's instinct when a cop ask that lol
Trains are not a road vehicle and an engineer or conductor has no responsiblity to answer a cops questions as they have no authority over rail vehicles.
@@heinrichberthold7839 Amen.
@heinrichberthold7839 true but all that info is nice to know to put in your report later
@@texastrainfan56 or they were just curious how fast you have to go to rip a car hauler in half.
Quite famously train accidents and derails have played large parts in TV and movies both seen and Unseen . All of the Original Knight Rider vehicles were donated to the studio by GM after being in a derailment and were contractually destroyed when the show ended
4 or 5 were purchased by Universal before the derailment and are still around.
That was probably most of the bacground vehicles. The Semi tractor-trailer and a few of the origional K.I.T.T cars are still around.
@@Ottie193 most were Firebirds and Camaros, which is why you also see some Camaros in a few episodes. Since they were involved in a wreck, even if they werent damaged significantly, GM could not sell them to the public.
I really don't understand why no one ever calls the number that is on every single crossing gate, crossing buck, etc at every crossing in the US. It has the emergency number and the crossing number.
Simply because most people want to see & video a train wreck.
They did dummy because on the video it said that they were in tacke of case crew
I’ve seen that sign but honestly it’s a pretty small sign that many people don’t even notice
i didint even know that sign existed until now
Sadly, even the first responders do not know to call the railroad when there's an obstruction or something that's going to take far more than 20 seconds to cross. With a little better training and education, one phone call would prevent accidents like these.
When a person calls and reports a vehicle stuck on the tracks, the phone operator will contact the dispatcher and relay that information to them. If there are any trains in the area, they will issue them a special restriction on the crossing. For CSX it's an EC-1 form, with emphasis on Line 6. This means the train will approach the crossing, prepared to stop in the event there is an obstruction. But if the reporter waits until they hear or see a train to make that phone call, then it's too late to make that call.
Guess you didn't hear that part were the dispatcher said they were on the phone with the railroad and one was in the area
@J A Elliff But the driver did make it to Bone Head Truckers of the week.
You mean to Tell me that the police official can't Read the warning signs to call the train dispatcher's to❤
@@johnconaway2201 Precisely.
Absolutely, train crossing gates have signs with the phone number. The first step is to call, not worry about how to get the train unstuck.
0:57 The small blue sign on the RR crossing signal post contains a telephone number for the CSX dispatcher, and the crossing ID . The first thing the truck driver should have done when he got stuck was call that number. Almost every crossing in the United States has signs like that. The responding police officer should also have also known about that sign.
Exactly. Instead of messing around with trying to off load the cars, call the number immediately. The video said the train originated only about 7 miles away…plenty of time to get CSX notified and stop the train. This is a failure on multiple levels.
Did you not get to the part where the dispatcher said he was on the phone with the railroad
@@LufthansaB747_ The 1800 number is more direct.
@@LufthansaB747_ Calling some random number for the railroad isn't gonna get you to the right person as fast as calling the number from the sign. Who knows who the number dispatch called went to. If they'd called the number from the sign it would've gone straight to the people at CSX who can shut down traffic through the crossing.
not the dispatcher but the communications network who can get in contact with the dispatcher.
Given all the movies shot in and around the Atlanta area with Tyler Perry studios, it's not a surprise that something like this would happen in this area of the country. And despite the truck being owned or operated by NBC Universal, I would not think they own those movie cars. It's likely they were leased from a third party. Insurance will cover the loss, but I'm sure the owner is NOT happy.
Exactly, a lot of times car dealerships or private owners loan the cars to movie sets or music video sets so people have something interesting to film with.
Lamborghini Atlanta has done a lot to help reputable companies/agencies get the particular cars they want to lease for the day (they don't necessarily need to be Lamborghini's either from the dealership since they deal with other European car brands too). They've also helped with charity organizations, which is how photos of American Lamborghini "police cars" have gotten around on the internet since they aren't necessarily owned by the police department, but just a lease where they are allowed to get the car temporarily wrapped with police markings and a temporary light fixture mounted to the top.
@@BRIANumber7-RCandModels yeah there's a couple companies/just people who's sole job is to be the middle man, knowing the right people with the right cars. Maybe a studio wants some 1940s tractors, so the company starts to ask around and happen to find someone with said tractors that run.
There's a video out there by VINwiki of one of those people.
@@MommyKhaos I remember that video! If I remember correctly, it was the one about the black Porsche 356 they leased from a private owner. Once they got it on scene, the movie director suddenly wanted it to be painted instead with the limited amount of time they had (Sorry movie director, but that ain't gonna happen, haha!).
I was railfanning once a noticed a gate that went down, went back up, then down again before the train arrived, allowing one truck to cross. I called up the number and reported it, and within an hour a passing train crew stopped to inspect it.
Thank you to railfans
I saw something like that once. Turns out that just around the bend leading into the crossing there was crew working with some sort of equipment ( tampers? ) and as they rolled back and forth the gates would go up and down. It was annoy as heck as I had to make a few trips over that crossing that day.
@@HustleMuscleGhias yeah thats dumb. I'm pretty sure they deactivate crossing when doing work that would trigger it
Instead of trying to get it off the first thing they should of done is call the railroad that owns the trackage and inform them of a vehicle on the tracks
I drove trains for 25yrs on the commuter side of the rails and I was told never talk to law enforcement until you have talked with supervision first
its a shame the trucker didnt know to contact the railroad via the blue sign on the RR crossing. this could have been avoided if the trucker knew about it
Don’t forget the police either. Calling the number should have been the first thing they did. Not wait for dispatch to call.
Being both a car nerd and railfan, this sucks to see, at least it was only 2 cars and not a lot more, now I'm wondering if that Chevy is recoverable at all
Yeah I was thinking that too
It's a 4 door Nova from a undesirable year, not worth enough to fix, but a good parts car now.
I think you shortchanged the "blue signs." I am even more concerned that the local police seemed to be working through their dispatch to contact "the railroad." I can't speak for every railroad, but my own experience (with CSX) was that when I contacted the number posted at that crossing with the crossing number, the lady I spoke with had immediate access to any train movements headed to that crossing. I don't know if she was the controlling dispatcher or just someone who had access to that dispatcher's screen (and if the latter, obviously communication with the controlling dispatcher). Based on that experience, this was a totally preventable accident. I apologize to the previous responses that indicated this fact. EVERY driver (car, truck, farm equipment) should be made aware of this and every LEO with a rail line in their jurisdiction should know it! The two crucial pieces of information are the direct link to the dispatcher AND the crossing number (not someone calling about where an unidentified line in an unnamed state crosses Smith Farm Rd.).
In CSX's case the number goes to our police command center. They enter the crossing number into their database which then tells them the correct train dispatcher to notify. This is not instantaneous, it takes a few minutes so please stay clear of the tracks even if you have spoken with CSX.
Here in the UK, the number goes through to a phone on the desk of the signaller who controls the crossing and can stop the train. They also have a CCTV view of the crossings they control, so they would stop the train and wouldn't close the gate. I was lucky enough to have a tour of one of the signalling centres and saw the whole procedure the crossing signaller has to take. He gets an ping that a train is coming, his screen turns on with a picture of the crossing, and the lights start to flash. Once the crossing is clear of vehicles, he presses a button to lower the barriers. When the barriers are down, he confirms the crossing is all clear, then presses a button that turns the signals green for the train. If he doesn't press this button the train would slow down and stop before the crossing.
The signs actually say to call the signaller first if you are carrying an unusual load and get permission to cross.
You may not be willing to, but I will totally second-guess the cops, as soon as that officer arrived on the scene he should've got his phone out, called the railroad, and while on the phone with the railroad find that blue sign and give them the Crossing information. To do anything less is a gross dereliction of duty to protect the public.
That's one thing that always annoyed me about these types of crossings. There needs to be proper signage to warn truck drivers of these crossings with low ground clearance, but often times towns will wait until something bad like this happens before putting a sign up.
It's great that no citations were issued in this case, but I imagine the company he worked for is still going to report it as a "preventable accident," three of which will get you kicked out of the trucking industry for three years.
Another thing that annoys me is, in videos like this, I often see comments calling the truck driver stupid, but in my opinion, it's hard to know if your trailer will fit over the crossing. Some crossings are steeper on one side than the other. It may have looked like he could fit from the side he was approaching.
Honestly, I think if the town didn't place any signs, than the town should be liable for all collisions that occur at the crossing.
This is not a signage issue, or an issue with the crossing itself. Unlike standard trailers, car haulers are a special type of low-slung trailer with minimal clearance. As such they require special routing, which is on the driver and the trucking company.
@@jamesduncan3673Did you not see the grade of that crossing?
I get that when they built the crossing they didn't anticipate that type of trailer being used to cross that crossing, but you would think they would be smart about it and redo the crossing after giving it some thought.
@@REAL-UNKNOWN-SHINOBI When I looked at the state's truck route map, that grade crossing isn't even on a truck route.
Further, this was a very specific load, going to a movie shoot location. This was not a standard auto hauler delivering to a dealership over a regular route.
How much are we going to demand of cities, and of railroads, to try to cover every one-off that could come up in the next 50 years?
A train with only 4 wagons couldn't stop? Are you serious? 🤣🤣
Yea they totally could have stopped. Looked like good weather and a decent sight distance before the crossing. Seeing anything going on near the rails, especially when you’re on a “local” job with only a few cars it is super easy, and prudent, to slow down a little. I know long trains can’t slow down for “everything” but this crew just about would have wanted to hit them for this to happen.
in the lead in segment - that is the first time that I have seen a southern railway engine since the change after the merger in 1982 when I worked there as a switchman
Damn, I live by this subdivision and I have never seen something like this happen before. Hoping the crew is alright
Same here
Charlie, another excellent video with high production values. Thanks for taking this accident and making it an opportunity to learn about what to do when a crossing is fouled. Dan
Good thing the trucker pulled out the kingpin too, that trucker could've lost the rig too, not just the trailer
It seems police are sorta negligent here. The time to call CSX isn't when you know a train is approaching, it's the moment you become aware there is a stuck vehicle. I'd imagine that the police dispatch has a direct line to CSX dispatch because to not would be silly.
I really think this could have been avoided. Signal control boxes and crossing gates have signs with a number to call. That is step one not figuring how to get the truck unstuck.
I don't understand, how come the officer in first time doesn't call to the csx to warning the train about the truck, good prevention job
Even if they didn't know about the blue sign, the police officers had all the time to make sure CSX was informed by calling the Police station.
Anyway, why don't driving schools and police training centres teach about what to do when stuck at a level crossing?
Damn, those was some nice cars on that trailer.😞
I'd have paid top dollar for that blue Nova sedan
Great job on this video. I wondered why the City of Conyers had not placed signs warning truckers of the danger to low-boys possed by that intersection. I wonder if that intersection even met state standards for a rail crossing?
Good question. I live there and I don't believe ANY of those crossings along that stretch in town are designed for a low-clearance trailer like this, but the only one I recall being marked is on the other end of town and it's OBVIOUSLY ill-suited for a truck crossing. He would have been better off coming in off Hwy 138 or Sigman Rd depending on which direction he came from and where he was headed.
Every driver of a low boy, and anyone who has been to truck driving school, should know that it's not a crossing you should try to cross with that type of vehicle... in addition, local cops in Georgia, not the brightest.
The truck driver and the police once again are ignorant of these blue signs as the best way to contact the railroad, how much time did they waste that possibly could have been used to get the train stopped.
Train crews do not answer questions. I wouldn't have answered. It's clear these officers do not know or understand their jurisdiction. They do not need to be in the cab either.
Why wasn't CSX called immediately? It does not give me confidence in local law enforcement in situations such as this. Secondly, the officer asking the crew how fast they were going. Like they were speeding. Really? The proper answer would be, "Officer, we are in communication with our supervisor and we would be happy to answer your questions as soon as they arrive on the scene." Say nothing!
Law enforcement is entirely useless outside of punishment for criminal acts
Movie cars, ouch that’s gonna be cost a lot.
The incompetence of these drivers and because of that, classic cars are lost forever.
3:23 - Not only is the fuel cap missing, the fuel level site glass is at least partially broken with the outer part hanging upside down, and .... there's a hole in the side of the tank below the filler pipe that shouldn't be there.
I am a trucker.
I don't have any experience working with car carriers, but I know they can be very tricky because of low clearence on the trailer. Any little hill, natural or man-made, like this railroad crossing... one can get stuck easily.
Driver must be super vigilant and always anticipate any such bumps or dips.
was surprised I didnt hear the train in full emergency stop though.
They did get lucky this was a car carrier, the low trailers that haul construction equipment apparently have a high chance to derail trains. Because they are chonk enough in structure to survive the impact and can then sometimes flip over and catch the wheels of the locomotive.
It's Great to know that The American loading gauge was and still is large today, especially for Locomotives like GEVOs and their wide cabs and being over 16ft high, It gives them the Advantage to protect the crews from trailers and other large things stuck on the tracks. Since the cab is high up.
THE FIRST THING YOU do in this situation, or when you see this situation, is CALL THE RAILROAD. There is always a sign on the crossing, with a number to call and a crossing ID number to give to whoever gets called. Never assume they have been called already unless specifically told otherwise, whether you are trucker, responding officer, or a passer by.
Even small trains need a good distance to stop, the best way to do that is to call, everyone in the railroad will thank you.
Glad no injuries.
Just out of curiosity, why wasn't the 800 number on the sign attached to the crossing gate post, not called IMMEDIATELY by the truck driver after the stall? Thats why all crossings have the number. The amount of time in this case, this could have been avoided.
They'll have a fun time replacing those cars
The problem with the truck is that, unlike a standard box or flat-bed, car haulers are low-slung trailers with minimal clearance. As such, they require special routing.
This was either a driver that was inexperienced with this type of trailer, who probably blindly trusted his GPS, and/or bad or non-existent routing by the dispatcher. That truck should never have tried to cross the tracks at that point.
The engineer or conductor never should have answered how fast they were going. It is none of the cops business. Trains are not a road vehicle and police have no authority over them. We were always told not to talk to the cops without a railroad manager and you never answer their question or give them your drivers license. In the case of grade crossing accident or a suicide accident you only need to give the police your name and phone number. Any other questions should be referred to a railroad manager or the FRA.
Well, that is one way to get the truck clear of the tracks.
This is my favorite RR channel on YT. Keep up the good work.
So no body at any point called that wonderful number on that blue sign?
Little blue sign on a railroad crossing to call for an emergency police officers need better training
The first thing you do is call the 800 number at the crossing! That would have stopped the train until they got the truck off. They wasted time and just let it happen!
Your reporting on this incident was so well pieced together, awesome job.
They should have contacted the railroad first thing instead of waiting till a train was coming.
Cops only need to advise the rr as soon as they arrive, not after impact. There a huge increase in area first responders not doing their jobs properly. "Advice csx of impact". The train crew will do that. There's so much stupidity that could be avoided.
Nice job. I've never seen a crossing accident covered in this much detail.
All those cops on the scene, and apparently none called the number on the blue sign??
This is why trailers should have lift kits standard, prove me wrong
Ironic how that GP40 and that Nova were so close in age... Both considered classics in their own right
Short the rails. Seriously. It occupies the track circuit and a train won't enter the block without a slow warrant. Also call the number on the cross bucks.
That's sounds like a good idea if there's time.
You mean to tell me that that prime mover - with both rear axles on the road couldn't pull that half empty trailer off the crossing? Here in Australia, we have a thing called "Road Trains" - road trains are prime movers that pull anything up to five or six fully loaded trailers over extremely long distances. Personally, as a truck driver, I find this extremely embarrassing.
Great report!
From my “Transportation Of Dangerous Goods” training…if the placards are on it, it’s loaded. Placards come off when unloaded.
Awesome video!😊🎉
Rule of thumb.....if you're following a truck and a RR grade crossing is up ahead, start filming.
Great video as always. Very glad no one was hurt. Conyers reminds me of my hometown of Warner Robins that also has an old train depot as the town's welcome center. Interesting enough, there was train collision with a truck that occurred recently here as well.
Amazing video v12 and Oof for the cars I love the video thx
Glad to hear that nobody's was hurt and everyone was alright. Can't say the same about the Nova and W126 tho :/
The FIRST thing the cop or the driver should have done is call the number on the crossing this was not an accident it was gross incompetence by both the cops and the driver of the truck
Lots of folks comment about using the number on the sign to call the railroad. I spend 38 years in law enforcement and didn't learn about those signs until after I retired, and I learned about those right here on UA-cam.
BUT, I have another thought. Those tracks look to be very long and straight, meaning that the engineers should have seen the truck and police cars on the tracks in time to stop, or at least slow considerably. Instead, the train doesn't sound like the brakes were set into emergency until just as it it the truck. In fact, there is no change in the sound to indicate that the engineers were doing anything to slow the train.
Decades ago I got a police car stuck on railroad tracks. I immediately go out two flares, lit them, and began waiving them back and forth in the universal emergency signal. It was a much longer train, but they managed to stop before they got to us.
This happened fairly recently to an SUV here in Forney. Everyone was ok, but it’s just crazy to think that even the smaller suburbs can’t escape these sorts of things.
Here’s what I learned about movie cars recently:
They’re rentals from either specific rental companies, or from individuals like you or me. Which makes this situation seriously unfortunate if the latter were the case for these cars.
Imagine you're excited that your car will be used in a movie or tv show and then it turns out it has been destroyed beyond repair.
Nice job of reporting.
Conyers Ga was the original location of The Dukes of Hazzard. The first 8 episodes were filmed in and around the town before production moved to the Warner Bros. Ranch in California.
Shouldn't there be a crossing number and phone number to the railroad office near the crossing? Which usually a sticker on the cabinet of crossing gate controller.
@Triple H Photography Okay, now the second question is, shouldn't those officers have been trained about railroad crossing emergency when their response area has active railroad line nd gated crossing?
Remember, the train always wins
I am happy that nobody has died or got injured
Excellent channel. Subscribed from UK so i can learn about US raileays 👍
That truck driver recieved the Darwin award for pulling off a flawless fuck up. I hope the Chevy Nova was salvagable!!!😏👍
Classic example of an incident happening because a series of prior events were mishandled that led to the final result. This is not an “accident”! Safety seems to be a lost priority currently.
Not knowing about the blue signs myself, I would have called 911, told them my location, and asked them to contact the railway before even attempting to get unstuck from the tracks.
Those hazmat cars were loaded any time the placard is on the car and is visible. They are loaded. They would have a different placard if they were not.
The placard is required to be posted if there is still residual material in that car even after it has been emptied and until it has been cleaned and or decontaminated. Most times for cars that are dedicated to one specific compound, the placard is just left in place.
That blue car is a 1974 Chevrolet Nova in what appeared to be mint condition. It may well have been rented directly from the owner. That is heartbreaking to see. A well equipped 74 Nova sedan is now a $20,000 car.
This was a very insightful video
There was another truck train accident in Villa Rica a few years back which is on the other side of the Atlanta metro area.
I covered that one.
ua-cam.com/video/kUwwRLxt4BE/v-deo.html
I'm not sure if it's the same in other states, but in Tennessee and VA , most crossings have a phone number. If anyone ever gets stuck at a crossing they should immediately contact the railroad dispatch, and emergency services to close the track and help clear the scene.
Every crossing in America has one of those signs.
i had to call that number once rail cars with air lines detached going out of a small yard
Glad no fatalities were involved
Nice video!
The weight of a train to a road vehicle is 4,000 to 1 meaning train win
This happen in Conyers, GA few weeks ago
I'm so glad no one was hurt
shouldve called csx right away. shouldve had a cop 2 miles down track in both directions
"Nova" in Spanish means "doesn't go," which is exactly what that blue car did that evening.
V12, there was recently an incident in Cabot Arkansas
As soon as he got stuck, he should have called the CSX 800 number and reported the problem. Then call for police help.
FYI, if a tractor trailer, rail car or other vehicle designed to transport freight has hazmat placards displayed it is loaded. It is a violation of federal regulations to display hazmat placards on any conveyance that is not loaded with such hazardous materials.
What if those cars were taken to be crashed into a train in a movie! 😂 Another good informal video man! Glad everybody was okay!
Figured they would’ve called dispatch and/or rushed to unload the cars
CSX GP40-2 #6024 was built as Chessie System (B&O) #4124 in September 1972.
Hey 6024s a usual around my area! I’m glad she’s alright:)
Where could we watch the full bodycam video?
If the cruiser put his PIT bumper against the trailer and pushed, there would be no collision.
On April 11th 2023 in Conyers there's was car carrier was stuck in the railroad crossing it happens a CSX was hit by the impact of the GP
In addition to calling the number, I wonder if putting jumper cables or other metal conductors across the rails would have prevented this? It should cause the last signal to go red. If they knocked the signal early enough it might have given enough time to stop, especially since this train was a shorty.
Or one step further, instead of a phone number, have a fire alarm style "pull lever in emergency" that does the same thing.
Putting jumper cables or a pipe across the tracks would trigger the gates to come down! An electrical connection at a certain point on the tracks trips a circuit in the relay cabinet to operate the gates and where applicable the traffic lights.
As far as trying to trip the signals, that would actually cause havoc and problems throughout the entire system and would be illegal to do and could cause an accident. There was some kid that was caught making videos of himself monkeying with switches and other railroad infrastructure.
@@HustleMuscleGhias it would trigger the signals RED in each direction which could have prevented this accident, and maybe caused some minor damage from the crossing arms. its not illegal to do in an emergency such as this.
How do you feel about the csx tracks that's in Brooklyn New York
anyone notice that the signals shut off seconds after the train hits the truck