Mysteries of the SININIS Sword - A 10th Century Original

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  • @swordandshield
    @swordandshield  Рік тому

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  • @swordandshield
    @swordandshield  4 роки тому +27

    After some discussion with a patron of mine, I have speculated that the blade inscription SININIS may mean this:
    Salvatio In Nomine Iesu, Nomen Iesu Salvatio (est): Salvation in the name of Jesus, the name of Jesus (is) salvation.
    Take this with a grain of salt, it is mere conjecture.

    • @jonathanwashburn7138
      @jonathanwashburn7138 4 роки тому +6

      The fact that it’s a palindrome as well as a vertical mirror is interesting. Was visual word play like this common?

    • @swordandshield
      @swordandshield  4 роки тому +2

      @@jonathanwashburn7138 yes, absolutely. Here is even a runic version of a famous ancient palindrome: ua-cam.com/video/w-HljkmpGIc/v-deo.html

    • @jakubfabisiak9810
      @jakubfabisiak9810 4 роки тому

      so, basically, the uber-hipster version of AFFA (Angels Forever, Forever Angels; related to Hell's Angels MC)?

    • @jaimecody8253
      @jaimecody8253 2 роки тому

      I guess it is quite randomly asking but does anyone know of a good website to watch newly released movies online ?

    • @TacDyne
      @TacDyne 2 роки тому

      This would make sense. I was surprised to see the crosses on the opposite side instead of encasing the acronym, but since it is a later period than others I've studied (I use that term loosely) this also makes sense.

  • @jeffreypurcell4681
    @jeffreypurcell4681 4 роки тому +6

    I haven’t seen many modern day sword makers who do what has been shown. I learn a lot from your videos, great work, well done.

    • @swordandshield
      @swordandshield  4 роки тому +1

      These are relatively recent conclusions, so it will take time to spread. Happy you find my work educating. Excellent.

  • @EattinThurs61
    @EattinThurs61 Рік тому

    This is soo interesting it really gets a feeling for history and time, swordmanship is old...

  • @gg2fan
    @gg2fan 4 роки тому +10

    9:40 I would pay real dosh for a copy of that book

    • @swordandshield
      @swordandshield  4 роки тому +1

      I will do my best for you to get a chance to do so! Thanks for your interest.

  • @LeonM4c
    @LeonM4c 4 роки тому +6

    Love these long, academic studies on the sword, especially from the earlier medeival period.
    Youre doing great work on bringing to light that the people of the past were just as intelligent and refined in their crafts as we are, whether its swordsmnaship, building construction, art, etc.
    Those people were US, they just lived in a different time and understood the world differently.

  • @alu9652
    @alu9652 3 роки тому +1

    Love these "original" series very much! It is always interesting to see a properly made sword to know how it is constructed

  • @JCOwens-zq6fd
    @JCOwens-zq6fd 2 місяці тому

    I have been making & using my own swords for some years now & i have noticed that it makes a huge difference when the sword is custom fit to the dominate hand. All of mine are tailored to my right hand which gives me a level of control when moving dynamically that a completely symmetrical factory made sword simply cannot. Obviously my grips look symmetrical but when you pick them up one can easliy tell which edge is the leading edge. Which is another thing, people seem to think only of sabers having a front & back but so do double edged swords.

  • @Ostarrichi996
    @Ostarrichi996 4 роки тому +8

    Every second of this video is amazing!

  • @andreweden9405
    @andreweden9405 4 роки тому +1

    When you uploaded this, I had already been hoping for a new Roland video, so I'm extra excited now that there is one! I've been busy today, so I didn't see it until now!😁

  • @wilowhisp
    @wilowhisp 4 роки тому

    Thanks for posting this wealth of information. You're an exceptional artist, and I'm excited to get your book as soon as it's available.

  • @ricardoartesao
    @ricardoartesao 4 роки тому +1

    Congratulations!!! This is a most amazing video. Thank you for sharing! 👏👏👏👏

  • @faramund9865
    @faramund9865 4 роки тому

    As per usual a very good video! These kind of things are something we SHOULD know when recreating blades from the past.
    It’s really quite interesting to learn these kind of things that you would otherwise totally miss out on!

  • @erichusayn
    @erichusayn 4 роки тому +1

    Excellent video. I learned a lot. Thanks for sharing...

  • @andersandersson5815
    @andersandersson5815 4 роки тому

    Thanks for an excellent video! Very interesting and well done. People from the past where skilled craftsmen and insightful and intelligent. They didn't have the same tool as we have access to today but made a great work. Respect!

  • @stephengarrett8076
    @stephengarrett8076 Рік тому

    Outstanding observation very very relevant. Thank you.

  • @TwentythreePER
    @TwentythreePER 4 роки тому +1

    These are some of my favorite videos of yours. A very interesting sword indeed! The artwork of the reconstruction looks very good too I love the aesthetics of swords from this time.

  • @richstone2627
    @richstone2627 4 роки тому +1

    First rate presentation and extremely interesting. Thank you.

  • @Sam_Arwas
    @Sam_Arwas 4 роки тому

    Really looking forward to that book

  • @entropy11
    @entropy11 4 роки тому +2

    I find it fascinating that twisted and offset pommels are so common. Am I right in that it's only been very recently thought to be deliberate?

    • @swordandshield
      @swordandshield  4 роки тому

      Indeed. I was first exposed to this subject when I saw this FB album of sword maker Nils Anderssen: facebook.com/nils.andr/media_set?set=a.10158925271320121&type=3 I finally started looking into it systematically after some discussion at the Berlin Buckler Bouts two or three years ago. I am currently in the process of writing an according article for an academic publication, following up my respective lecture at a conference last year, where many scholars urged me to publish these observations.

  • @NorthernHistory
    @NorthernHistory 3 роки тому +1

    This is interesting. But if swordmakers were concerned with ergonomics, any ideas as to why didn't they eventually move further in improving the gripping of this type of swords? Your theory also has the underlying assumption of a specific kind of grip; how do you know they gripped the swords this way, particularily in armor (with a mailed fist) for instance?

  • @nachtschattenmacher
    @nachtschattenmacher 7 місяців тому

    just making a replic of the Lesja sword from 2017 and was wondering why tang and "pommel"bar, are asymetrical and twisted. thank you!

  • @Myvillagevlog587
    @Myvillagevlog587 2 місяці тому

    Awesome 💯 thanks

  • @florix7889
    @florix7889 3 роки тому

    This really puts tod's workshop's video about bad smithing in the Middle ages in jeopardy lol

  • @EattinThurs61
    @EattinThurs61 Рік тому

    I boght machetes with symmetrical wood handles then I shaped them to fit my right hand. So I understand how this works. I personalized one for my sister who has a bit smaller hands, so I made the handle a bit too thin for my hand...
    I find it hard now to think of buing a machete with synthetic handle now.

  • @braeden9015
    @braeden9015 4 роки тому +1

    Roland, i have an irrelevant question in relation to your opinion on Norse history: I'm a strong believer in 'the lack of evidence doesn't mean evidence of lacking.' So in relation to that; do you believe it possible that the Vikings used Gambeson and Lamellar armor during their age?

  • @stephenfields6236
    @stephenfields6236 2 роки тому

    RoCan you refer me to detailed information about the Viking sword you use frequently in your demonstrations. Length of handle , length of blade , weight , maker , etc., etc. thanks Steve

  • @dws8957
    @dws8957 4 роки тому

    Could I ask about your opinion of Arms & ARMOR'S Scholar sword(arming sword blunt) I've been finding nice arming sword blunt for training I.33

  • @davejob630
    @davejob630 Рік тому

    I imagine that if sword smiths of old could see the modern hilts so perfectly symmetrical they would consider them clumsy instruments of poor design. Thanks for this fascinating insight.

  • @faramund9865
    @faramund9865 4 роки тому +2

    Just casually pronounced Utrecht the right way.

    • @swordandshield
      @swordandshield  4 роки тому

      Hahaha! I guess you are from the Netherlands?

    • @faramund9865
      @faramund9865 4 роки тому

      @@swordandshield I am indeed ;)

  • @Yeknodathon
    @Yeknodathon 4 роки тому

    Interesting, thanks! I wonder whether we'd see similar in swords that were hand manufactured (rather than industrially manufactuered) in later centuries e.g. Indian, Afghan & Ottoman weapons?

    • @swordandshield
      @swordandshield  4 роки тому

      I am not an expert in this field, but ergonomics was most certainly equally important. This being said, any saber hilt is a more ergonomic design than a perfectly symmetric one.

  • @stephenfields6236
    @stephenfields6236 2 роки тому

    Roland can you refer me to where I can find detailed information on the Viking style sword you frequently use in your demonstration.

  • @navalhistoryhub3748
    @navalhistoryhub3748 3 роки тому

    The offsetting of pommels etc was that common on all swords??? Or on some and not others? Was it done in some cases as a custom fit for the user. Would a swordsmith want to see and measure the users hand to make the modifications for ergonomic purposes? Like a custom fit?

  • @joachimdo7096
    @joachimdo7096 4 роки тому

    It comes to my mind, that modern replica of old swords might have been "corrected" to be more symmetrical. And now, thanks to your keen eye and researches, it seems that the old weaponsmiths were not as dump or awkwarded as their modern counterparts thought they have been.

  • @dreammfyre
    @dreammfyre 4 роки тому +2

    3:00 Is that a composite bow?

    • @swordandshield
      @swordandshield  4 роки тому +1

      Yes. They do occur in Frankish manuscripts quite often.

  • @Marvindlight
    @Marvindlight 4 роки тому +1

    There was asymmetry winch allowed economical like control, meaning when these blades where used it would require precision.
    Interesting find.

  • @alpharius8264
    @alpharius8264 4 роки тому +1

    I have a question that is not directly connected to the topic, but are the people shown on the illustrations at2:59 supposed to be Franks? Because what immeadelty stroke my eye was that they are using reflex Bows. Also am I correct to assume that the sword would be aTyp XII on the Oakeshott typology

    • @arumatai
      @arumatai 4 роки тому +1

      the franks encountered the reflex bow with the pannonian avars. some avars served in the army of charlemagne.

    • @swordandshield
      @swordandshield  4 роки тому

      In regards to recurve bows: They feature in a number of Carolingian manuscripts. You can also see them in the famous Stuttgart Psalter. And, yes, I would consider the featured sword an early type XII, too.

    • @alpharius8264
      @alpharius8264 4 роки тому

      @@swordandshield Makes me wonder why the Franks never developed mounted archery especially because they focused more and more on cavelery in the carolingian age or at least so I thought. Ive always thought the main reason was, because they never constructed bows that could effectivly used frim horseback, but seemingly I was wrong

    • @kanonierable
      @kanonierable Рік тому

      @@alpharius8264 Recurve bows are typically made from layers of wood, horn an sinew, all glued together. The problem is, this glue, though expremely strong, is not "waterproof", meaning that in regions like central and western Europe, where you frequently encounter lengthy periods of rainfall resulting in high humidity, the recurve bow of the steppe-people would in relatively short time become unglued and simply fall apart. That might be one of the reasons why even the almost invincible armies of the Mongols never made it any farther to the west than Poland, as their main weapon was the very powerful recurve bow which became unusable when out of the dry steppe climate. The arabs, that conquered most of Spain andcame as far as the South of France, todays Langue d'Oc and Provence also fought with compound bows and they too were stopped by Karl Martell in the middle of France, right where the climate becomes much more humid and the did'nt succeed in conquering the north of Spain which has much higher amounts of rainfall than the centre and the southern parts.
      The English on the other hand with the Welsh longbow that is made of one single, solid piece of wood, preferably yew. But even the English archers took great care to keep the strings of their bows dry.
      So it might very well be that it was that single weakness of the otherwise undoubtebly superior eastern compound reflex bow, its susceptibility to rain and high humidity, that saved the people of Central, Northern and Western Europe from being conquered by the seemingly unstoppable mounted archers from the Eurasian steppe or the Arabian/Northafrican desert.
      Maybe we should rethink that habit of calling a series of rainy days "periods of bad weather"...
      PS: It is possible to give a bow which is made of one piece of wood the "recurve" shape of the Eastern wood, horn and sinew bows, by bending it with the help of steam. But its power is still way below that of the compound type built by the steppe warriors. It still has the advantage of not falling apart after a fortnight of heavy rain.

  • @FlyingAxblade_D20
    @FlyingAxblade_D20 4 роки тому

    not one moment bored!

  • @CDKohmy
    @CDKohmy 4 роки тому

    When did organic guards and pommels stop being used?

  • @Wulfdoom
    @Wulfdoom 4 роки тому +2

    Hey Ro, where's that $20 you owe me ?!

  • @DogsaladSalad
    @DogsaladSalad 4 роки тому

    just my opinion here, but i think you give ancient people just a little bit too much credit in this case. for one, the craftmanship of the fitting do not reflect the smith who assembled the sword. while pommels were likely twisted intentionally, the tools they made were made for purpose. if there was a flaw, but still served the purpose, it doesnt matter. the pommel and quillions were likely not made of the same material of the blade, it would be wastful. if a pommel came loose, as they do even now in modern times, a shim is used. this could make the twist in the fittings more pronounced. the argument that the tang would twist over time is ridiculous. carbon steel is much more tough than low carbon steel, which would be used for the fittings. so the fittings are much more likely to wear more quickly. just my 2c. good video