Yeah, but u CONVIENTLY leave out the IGNORANT behavior from the CHILDISH players! My black people never pass up an opportunity to make ASSES of themselves, this is just the latest example! The culture needs a Serious RESET!
We saw the footage of Angel Reese quickly rising from the bench to smile and applaud Chennedy Carter when she body-checked Clark unnecessarily. Now we have Angel's flagrant 1. THIS is one of the reasons why WNBA discourse has been more soap opera than basketball.
yes, we are witnesses to the victimhood of caitlin clark, the richest and most famous player in league history before she dribbled on a wnba court. i certainly wonder why the other players feel some type of way about her. nothing like this would ever happen to a michael jordan (oh wait, the pistons), or a lebron (oh wait, his own teammates envied him immediately). or maybe, we should all stfu about this ridiculous racism-against-whites or racism-against-blacks madness and either watch or not watch the games. if you support clark, then stop pretending to care about her well-being more than herself or her own father. if you support reese, stop pretending that clark is an invention of the media as a white-folkhero while disacknowledging her winning two straight naismith player of the years, breaking the ncaa scoring record, and right now being one of five players in wnba history to average 15-5-5 in a season--despite her being only a rookie., OH and her team is now in playoff contention despite playing 6 of her first 10 games against the top 2 teams in the league. it is astounding that even in the context of women's basketball issues we find a way to invent mass hysteria and racial hatred, and this happens ALWAYS because of the collective and individual inability to--as a people with the ability to read--have more than one thought in their head about anything at the same time. americans might historically be the dumbest assortment of people in the history of mankind.
Being honest; 75% of the new fans ( pro CC and pro Angel) of the WNBA drama are reacting for clout and attention and will not be tuning in to any of the WNBA games 2 years from now
Whether it's intentional or not, the fact that it's a violent contact especially in the HEAD, it's automatically a FLAGRANT FOUL. Even with NBA standards, is a flagrant foul. End of story.
@@HonestLeighSpeaking Your not understanding. @afri00009 understands it's automatic. Reese saying it's a basketball play is her arguing it shouldn't be called a flagrant and that "playing by the rules" is playing with a "special whistle". No, it's playing by the rules in it was the correct call, this game.
@@user-wd4ty9se7lno you are combining her statement, yes she said it was a basketball play because it was, and the special whistle wasn't especially about the flagrant foul
If you're upset that there has been very little basketball talk about the WNBA, then start talking about the basketball. Be the change you wanna see in the world
Just for they record, just because you talk about a sport, doesn't mean people will be interested in it. Like that nonsense statement McNutt made. If they put on NASCAR, will you be watching the next race? How about if they talk tennis? Will you be tuning into Wimbledon? No you won't. You can't force people to like a sport they don't feel is entertaining.
most??? there is a loud minority who want things to stay the same. the majority of potential women sports fans find the pro leagues repugnant. but see a glimmer of hope in clark.
CC has her focus on the game and its amazing that the moment she gets the ball she knows where her teammates are and if they are open they get the ball immediately. Now in defense of the other players that want to make sure they score. the WNBA is all about me (except for CC) that's because there is a m in team.
She never won a college championship because she turned down the POWERHOUSE BASKETBALL UNIVERSITIES SCHOLARSHIPS thrown at her feet to stay home and play for the local IOWA team, now these two want to hold it against her. Another example why the championship discourse has become stupid.
If Clark had chosen UConn, she'd probably win a couple titles but she'd just be another UConn player that people will eventually forget. By going to Iowa, she was able to become the most prolific offensive player in women's basketball history. She will be a known legend for a long time.
She didn't turn down UCONN. Geno didn't want her. He went to her high school and left at half-time due to her selfish play, attitude and the way she was screaming at her teammates. He wanted and got Paige Bueckers! 😅
Glad someone is calling it out. I despised the stupid drama in college basketball last season. No one seemed to care about great team play or the different great players. There were quite a few very talented players out there and really good teams
JuJu Watkins, Paige Bueckers, Cameron Brink, Kate Martin, Nika Muhl, and Hailey Van Lith all got overlooked last year I thought due to Caitlin Clark and Angel Reese
This is the only model much of sports media has. They are adopting the same approach as the NBA, NFL, etc. where they mostly talk about tweets and hypotheticals. The WNBA is no different. Sports media, at its core, is rarely really about sports.
Chicago Sky only have two flagerant fouls this year. And both are on Caitlin Clark by Reese and Carter so this “it’s unintentional” is becoming a weak argument.
one was a basketball play and one was a cheap shot. Just be quiet bro. So by that logic Caitlin's a complainer because she leads rookies with technical fouls.
@@ryanrichardson7941There's no way you can compare a flagrant foul with technicals. All of CC's technicals were for complaining about hard fouls she wasn't getting calls for. Those hard fouls are now turning into flagrants.
@allenday24 Stop lying for CC. At least one of her techs was for cursing at the ref (f you) after SHE was called for fouls. She's been known for her potty mouth. She's a fierce competitor, not a wallflower!
Duds, that would have been a fllagrant foul, in the NBA...On purpose or nor, she waked her in the head. That's Jaylon Brown hitting Kyrie Irving in the head going for a block. Flagrant 1. Just the letter of the game, Y'ALL doing way tooi much to create story lines
@@HonestLeighSpeaking He's not saying they didn't...he's talking about Chris....who's downplaying it on here and was doing the same thing on First Things First yesterday....it's why he's going with the "I guess it's the letter of the law, but..." nonsense and just saying it was a "hard foul".
I’m tired of the drama talk. Cc fans expect everyone to bend the knee and praise her at every opportunity. They are what’s gonna make everyone else resent her and not like her.
When i was in the military in 1982 thru 1985 my army unit we were huge fans of soap opera mainly the abc ones general hospital. All my children and one life to live and loving
A flagrant 1 was the correct call. Anybody bitching, moaning, complaining is so soft. Probably never played sports before. Crazy how people are trying to push a racial narrative.
It's not crazy with all the haiting these wnba players and former wnba players do on Clark. If this was a one off , then no big deal. But you can hear the hate in Reeses interview, last game she celebrated a cheap shot.
@@agag2684 absolutely not. But I can't see how some people can't admit the WNBA players and former have a personal agenda against Clark. Sherel Swoops literally made up lies to hate on Clark.
@@soda8736 of course there's bound to be some jealousy. She's the new hotshot rookie that people were saying was coming to dominate their league yr 1. Lebrons own teammates his rookie yr were downplaying him. People are holding WNBA to different standards. There actually having segments on are People being too mean to CC. When would people ever have segments on are people being too mean to a man
They never talk basketball. Everything about her is overblown. That's why it's a talking point. That foul was a common foul in basketball. Yes it's a flagrant foul but this shouldn't even be a topic.
Mabye because the person that hit her clearly hates her, celebrated when Clark was cheap shotted by Carter, and do an interview or a tweet with shading Clark. So it's more about who fouled Clark
@@soda8736 how does she hate her? when did she ever say that. Clark must hate playing defense or she must love complaining cause that is all she can do.
@ryanrichardson7941 I guess you see what u want . I can tell she hated her from the moment she followed Clark around the court for 40 seconds trying to get her attention to taunt her. But yea the list is too long too mention all the evidence out there that shows she hates Clark.
@@GnofgWell the problem is players with bad intention can make it look like a basketball play but the main purpose is to hit the guy or gal on the head. If you watch old school bball, guys like Laimbeer or Malone used to raise their arm to block the shot or go after a rebound but at the same time they made sure to drop their elbows on their target's face player's face.
@@naofumiiwatani1763 no comparison to Lambeer. Lambeer is the dirtiest player ever. He went for the body. This was a basketball play. The flagrant foul rule is a poor rule both in the NBA and WNBA
@@uncleb7821 it was a common foul. There is no intent. It happens all the time in the NBA and it sucks there too. The only team that really did cheapshots were the Pistons and they tackled you. I have watched every NBA finals since 1965. Do you have any evidence of head injuries from fouls? If you ever played basketball you would no this is a common foul. If no intent then it should only be a common foul.
Listen to what Clark said in her presser and compare it to Reese. That's the real difference, the foul is a secondary matter, the lack of style is much more difficult to mend.
They can't talk about it. Reese consistently embarrasses herself. She's a professional victim. Clark has never said anything to her or about her. Reese is obsessed with Clark. It's weird.
It was a “basketball play” with intent to make contact with her head 😂 They are jealous of her, they are trying to hurt her and there’s nothing you can talk about when it comes to the game because the games themselves aren’t that interesting. Only 3 teams have double digit wins and the rest are barely above or well below .500. The problem with the NBA is it always puts too much attention on individuals and don’t push teams as much as they should. The fact that instead of you all actually talking about the games, you’re talking about the drama shows there’s not much to talk about.
Man you actually have it entirely backwards. Stars are what bring people to watch and attend games, not teams. CC and Reese are fantastic examples of how people are interested in those players, not the teams they’re on
@@myllamaMan He's not ENTIRELY wrong. From an inclusivity and "moral" viewpoint, teams should absolutely be pushed more than individuals. However, individual stars are indeed what puts fans in seats, and businesses rarely discount that fact (Disney is a rare example but that is a different argument).
If you hoop, or actually watch basketball it was obvious it was a play on the ball that ended up just being a normal hard foul. Actually watch hoops before you start talking
Football took over baseball as the top sport in America in the 70’s. Fantasy Football wasn’t even around then. In fact, Fantasy started in baseball before it even came to football. FF did ratchet up the popularity of the NFL even more, but it wasn’t the reason that football became the #1 sport.
@@dionshaewishum4179 Double doubles are overrated when the minimum requirements are 10 points 10 rebounds. You just have to camp under the basket, get rebounds, and then put a few back up, which is Reese's whole game. You can actually get both stats, rebound and bucket, both in the same play. Rebounds aren't hard to get when your whole focus is getting rebounds. Rebounds are guaranteed whenever there is a missed shot, you just have to be there to get it. Hell, Clark had 8 last game and she's a guard who plays perimeter defense who's not actively trying to get rebounds. The more impressive double double is points and assists. You actually have to create an assist in addition to the person needing to score for the assist to count. You can't score yourself and have an assist in the same play, unlike rebounding and putting it back up. In Reese's case, sometimes she can have 2-3 rebounds in a row from her own missed shots and then score. So that's 3-4 stats in one possession. And I've got a couple more stats about your walking double double: The Sky are 1-6 when Reese gets a double double, and they are 3-3 when she doesn't get a double double.
and your right.. I'm never going to watch a game... you are so right.. never seen one.. never going to... this is the most I've ever even Thought about WNBA... lol..
Chicago sky have played a total of 540 minutes this season, with 74 of those minutes against the Indiana fever. Chicago sky have a total of 2 flagrant fouls this season , with both of the flagrant fouls against the same team, and against the same player…Caitlin Clark!!!!
@NicThomas7144 can't win because she was drafted by the worse team in the league. Still out scores, assists, and 3 pointers made and only 2 rebounds behind miss Clark whose rebounds come from 50% of her own shot less than 10 ft from the basket. Lol you just a racist hater. Caitlyn may not be the hottest but she is definitely hotter than 90% of the bull dagger league.
The problem with this whole scenario is that Angel Reese doesn’t exist or isn’t relevant without Caitlin. From her “you can’t see me gesture.” Which I find her making this racial because she said she did it for her “SEC Girls.” When have you heard a player getting mad because someone taunted an opponent of theirs?
Mashed potatoes and gravy. You can eat the mashed potatoes without the gravy, but you can't eat the gravy without the mashed potatoes. Reese is the gravy.
The media (including you guys) are the ones talking about the drama! You guys choose the programming. It’s so hypocritical to say all people talk about is the drama when it’s the sports shows pushing the stories.
Drama sells, can't really blame them for "reporting" it as it creates ratings. Just because I don't agree with the tactics, it doesn't make them invalid.
It was clearly a flagrant foul. I find it crazy how almost everyone in the mainstream media is afraid to admit that. Angel Reese can ball and now she wants to embrace this villain image but I feel that she’s looking like a total poor sport atm. She clearly has some real disdain for Caitlin Clark. Magic and Bird were fierce rivals on the court but respected the hell out of each other off the court. They even made commercials together, and it was better for the NBA. Angel Reese could learn a lot from those two. I’m so over the WNBA soap opera drama.
People really letting their racial biases shine through and it's funny cos shoe on the foot the discourse would be completely different. It's a one way hostility and the fact that people cannot be honest about that I can't respect it. As a black man that has seen Serena, Tiger and Lewis Hamilton have struggles with trying to break into white dominated sports. I'm appalled at the hypocrisy on display and people pretending this is normal behavior
Out of curiosity I check the standings of the WNBA yesterday. There's only 12 teams in the league. Clarks team is currently 8th and Angels is 9th. The fact that this league gets ANY coverage is a miracle. Theis product makes no money, and for the most part nobody cares. They finally have a couple of players that move the needle, so of course they have to leen i to those 2 or 3 players heavy. But the league as a whole isn't good, but at least they have a couple of interesting players...
@@ricorogers9319 I’m saying Chris and Rob were bemoaning the absence of coverage of the actual games and not just the drama and they are doing the same thing.
If you hit someone in the head by accident cuz it was a basketball play.. Why not go and apologize and pick her up.... Or say sorry my fault... But she just looked and walk off... Too me this shows everything!
When is the Lakers commentary about basketball? Its all LBJ drama with him blaming his teammates coaches and front office. What did David Stern say? "Our dirty little secret is that nobody watches the games."
I’m tired of you guys. Rob love you, but Chris your building one up and tearing down the other. Sit back one day and listen, there making Reese experience a living hell. It looks like she’s not having fun. Don’t be a pile on. Good day mate
They made Reese stand up and cheer when her teammate knocked Clark down when the ball wasn't even in play?? Really Reese could at anytime stop behaving the way she does.
@@chris20874 Exactly....she's like the chump who wrote that comment. She wants all the attention and acts like a clown and then cries any time she's called on it. "Pile on"...lol.
The fact is the MLS (which season is going on throughout the summer) is way more popular than the WNBA and soccer is not a popular sport in the US and the MLS is ranked as the 15th best soccer league in the world. I am willing to bet that the USL Championship league has more devoted fans than the WNBA... Also the WTA is a much better product than the WNBA even if Iga Świątek dominates all other female players on clay aside from Sabalenka and Naomi Osaka. There is a reason why the media is pushing hard to get people watching the WNBA, but this time of year we have soccer, baseball, and tennis to hold us over until the next NFL season.
1. you don't need to look directly at the person to foul them, come on, Chris, you covered sports for a long time, you ought to know that, they know what they're doing
I've watched a few WNBA games this year and what I've noticed is the gameplay is boring. It feels like watching the 2007 Spurs who were really boring except every team plays like that. So, if the WNBA wants to grow they need to switch up the rules to allow way more freedom of movement, encourage iso and handling, and move towards speed. The WNBA is way too slow right now and they shoot way too few 3pters. The WNBA's pace is 78.8 and off rating at 102.3 and shooting 22.9 3pters on avg this season. In other professional sports, WRs have about a 12.5% diff between men and women. So, if you account for the physical differences between men and women, the WNBA should be at about an 87.0 pace, 110 off rating and shooting around 30 3s a game or about 12.5% less than the NBA. Also, because the WNBA can't replicate the exciting high-flying plays, they really should lean into the exciting things they can like handling, flashy passes, deep 3s, speed, and fast action.
Read did you know Caitlin Clark got the most technical foul when she was playing in the NCAA go check it out and the referee will call the file soon as she get near her. I’m not looking somewhere trying to find these answers. I watch the games. I’m not new to this. I’m true to it.
We’re aware of her being a fiery competitor and apparently you forgot that her dad told her in one of her tournament games to shut up talking to the refs🤷🏿
I started to have some interest in watching the WNBA because I really enjoyed Caitlin Clarkes game in college. All this soap opera stuff has turned me off. And… Chris Broussard is such a politician with his takes and it’s exhausting.
I've yet to hear one iota of WNBA analysis. It's simply, Clark got fouled again, the women are jealous and Reese is a thug. Haven't seen a breakdown of a game or the skill of any of the players, including Clark. End of the game it's, "Clark had 20/6/8". Nothing about how she got it or the impact or lack of.
I mean...the ONLY person that talks about basketball and NONE of the other stuff is CC. Let's be honest. I like AR's game, but she needs some media training. The press is complicit in all of this. Literally the only person who tries to move it to basketball is CC.
Lets be real. These r not the wmba new fans these r just CC n angel reese fans. Something i been say the start of this year. N with that other ladies or gents r getting eyes on them. But still not wmba new fans
Is a “no look pass” Magic from Magic intentional…? Just because Reese was looking at the ball does not mean she was not intending to clock CC’s head… Bad take CB…
Blame media piggy backing off negatively. Blame negative embrace from wnba to new fans, commentary and CC herself. Blame the immaturity of WNBA players and their personal drama they bring into their own game. Blame them when their league doesn’t do well
Gossiping like women,Now you know why soap operas been on Tv for over 30 years.The media knows drama sells,The Media created this division for revenue 🥱
Chris, what rivalry? If you get in my face and yell at me and I walk away, we not rivalries when I see you again SMH. Why are you feeding into that, it's not a rivalry at all; it's one person talking and the other walking by.
To be honest, the W games are poorly coached and played. Caitlin is trying to get the league to act and play like a legitimate professional league. The league is not used to analysts breaking down how they play the game. We will see if they can elevate the coaching and quality of play.
It was much 2 do about nothing honestly. Reese missed the block & hit Clark unintentionally. It's a basketball play. Carter's foul last match-up was a flagrant that the refs missed. It was a good back-and-forth that Indy won. Feels like the media stirs up drama more so than the players 🙄
It's amazing how many people think just because she is looking at the ball, these elite athletes don't have the peripheral awareness to make fouls look unintentional. Athletes at an elite level of competition in all sports push limits at what they can get away with. I think this elite rebounder Angel Reese was keenly aware of her body positioning over Caitlyn Clarks as she went for the ball and in that split second decided if she put a little umph in the block attempt and it hits Clark its close enough to a basketball move to look unintentional. Just like athletes flop they also try to make fouls look unintentional.A Key stat, Angel Reeses team only has 2x flagrant fouls the entire season after playing against over 100 different players, both fouls were against the same player, Caitlyn Clark.
The media coverage is embarrassing. They can’t accept that is normal competitiveness. The same thing happens in the nba with hurt feelings, jealously, resentment etc.
THANK YOU 🙏🏾 ROB PARKER‼️ I have been saying the same dadgum thing since the beginning of the season. I am genuinely not interested in the “she said/she said” nonsense
THANK YOU Rob Parker!!! No basketball talk. Just CC and what is happening to her. Exhibit A!!!!!
Yep
Yeah, but u CONVIENTLY leave out the IGNORANT behavior from the CHILDISH players! My black people never pass up an opportunity to make ASSES of themselves, this is just the latest example! The culture needs a Serious RESET!
That’s because nobody cares about the wnba. Cc is the attraction
Because no one on God’s green earth cares about high school level basketball
It's OK nobody watched Tiger for golf either 😂
Next up on Bravo TV - "The real housewives of the WNBA."
LOL!! No wait it has already started.
there won't be any husbands there!
@@mcfirebug my thought exactly
Lmao straight up!💯😂
We saw the footage of Angel Reese quickly rising from the bench to smile and applaud Chennedy Carter when she body-checked Clark unnecessarily. Now we have Angel's flagrant 1. THIS is one of the reasons why WNBA discourse has been more soap opera than basketball.
yes, we are witnesses to the victimhood of caitlin clark, the richest and most famous player in league history before she dribbled on a wnba court. i certainly wonder why the other players feel some type of way about her. nothing like this would ever happen to a michael jordan (oh wait, the pistons), or a lebron (oh wait, his own teammates envied him immediately). or maybe, we should all stfu about this ridiculous racism-against-whites or racism-against-blacks madness and either watch or not watch the games. if you support clark, then stop pretending to care about her well-being more than herself or her own father. if you support reese, stop pretending that clark is an invention of the media as a white-folkhero while disacknowledging her winning two straight naismith player of the years, breaking the ncaa scoring record, and right now being one of five players in wnba history to average 15-5-5 in a season--despite her being only a rookie., OH and her team is now in playoff contention despite playing 6 of her first 10 games against the top 2 teams in the league. it is astounding that even in the context of women's basketball issues we find a way to invent mass hysteria and racial hatred, and this happens ALWAYS because of the collective and individual inability to--as a people with the ability to read--have more than one thought in their head about anything at the same time. americans might historically be the dumbest assortment of people in the history of mankind.
Being honest; 75% of the new fans ( pro CC and pro Angel) of the WNBA drama are reacting for clout and attention and will not be tuning in to any of the WNBA games 2 years from now
They will if both of them become great
I've said that all along......👏👏👏
Any games not featuring Clark, you mean.
@quinnosborn3441 Nope both have agendas
A bunch of fake fans just riding a social media wave I couldn’t agree more. This was well said.
The foul isn’t the problem Angels press conference was horrible
Exactly. One of the worst attitudes I have ever seen in professional sports. It's embarrassing.
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Y’all can’t be serious
@@adamant5550please explain
Please look up CC flop at Ohio State. That was terrible. I bet you won't though.
just be honest fellas , the drama is better than the actual games 😂
💯 😂
Bad girls club: WNBA edition
I try and watch the games for what they are and not compare em to the men’s game.
Truth.
@@SmartDave60 Basketball is my least favorite sport by far. I can't watch men's or women's. But I'm enjoying the drama in the WNBA.
Whether it's intentional or not, the fact that it's a violent contact especially in the HEAD, it's automatically a FLAGRANT FOUL. Even with NBA standards, is a flagrant foul. End of story.
And she was given a flagrant. You commenting and didn’t watch the game. 🤣😂🤣
@@HonestLeighSpeaking Your not understanding. @afri00009 understands it's automatic. Reese saying it's a basketball play is her arguing it shouldn't be called a flagrant and that "playing by the rules" is playing with a "special whistle". No, it's playing by the rules in it was the correct call, this game.
@@user-wd4ty9se7lno you are combining her statement, yes she said it was a basketball play because it was, and the special whistle wasn't especially about the flagrant foul
If it was violent it would have been a flagrant 2: it was a flagrant 1.
Why do ya’ll use coded language like violent… stop the dog whistles its disgusting…
If you're upset that there has been very little basketball talk about the WNBA, then start talking about the basketball. Be the change you wanna see in the world
They did today on first things first!
Just for they record, just because you talk about a sport, doesn't mean people will be interested in it. Like that nonsense statement McNutt made. If they put on NASCAR, will you be watching the next race? How about if they talk tennis? Will you be tuning into Wimbledon? No you won't. You can't force people to like a sport they don't feel is entertaining.
The basketball is embarrassing.
If they talk basket Angel will be trash 🗑️ 😂😂😂😂 , 36% of layups . Zero shooting skills
@@DagenLucas the numbers suggest she is the 2nd best rookie.. she ain’t a perfect player but she is the 2nd best player in her class 🤷♂️
Rob is sick and tired. Like most of us.
most??? there is a loud minority who want things to stay the same. the majority of potential women sports fans find the pro leagues repugnant. but see a glimmer of hope in clark.
That’s why nobody has been watching for 30 years. If you start talking about the game, you realize how bad the gameplay actually is.
CC has her focus on the game and its amazing that the moment she gets the ball she knows where her teammates are and if they are open they get the ball immediately. Now in defense of the other players that want to make sure they score. the WNBA is all about me (except for CC) that's because there is a m in team.
Reese was nowhere near blocking that shot and she had help that came over that actually blocked the shot. I think Reese saw that as a free shot on CC
Who cares
That's the truth.... Racist violent assault under the guise of "a basketball play". GTFOH
She never won a college championship because she turned down the POWERHOUSE BASKETBALL UNIVERSITIES SCHOLARSHIPS thrown at her feet to stay home and play for the local IOWA team, now these two want to hold it against her. Another example why the championship discourse has become stupid.
If Clark had chosen UConn, she'd probably win a couple titles but she'd just be another UConn player that people will eventually forget. By going to Iowa, she was able to become the most prolific offensive player in women's basketball history. She will be a known legend for a long time.
She didn't turn down UCONN. Geno didn't want her. He went to her high school and left at half-time due to her selfish play, attitude and the way she was screaming at her teammates. He wanted and got Paige Bueckers! 😅
@@ninacruiseu a got damn liar. Geno didn’t want her lmao
Glad someone is calling it out. I despised the stupid drama in college basketball last season. No one seemed to care about great team play or the different great players. There were quite a few very talented players out there and really good teams
JuJu Watkins, Paige Bueckers, Cameron Brink, Kate Martin, Nika Muhl, and Hailey Van Lith all got overlooked last year I thought due to Caitlin Clark and Angel Reese
This is the only model much of sports media has. They are adopting the same approach as the NBA, NFL, etc. where they mostly talk about tweets and hypotheticals. The WNBA is no different. Sports media, at its core, is rarely really about sports.
It's exhausting!
Chicago Sky only have two flagerant fouls this year. And both are on Caitlin Clark by Reese and Carter so this “it’s unintentional” is becoming a weak argument.
one was a basketball play and one was a cheap shot. Just be quiet bro. So by that logic Caitlin's a complainer because she leads rookies with technical fouls.
@@ryanrichardson7941There's no way you can compare a flagrant foul with technicals. All of CC's technicals were for complaining about hard fouls she wasn't getting calls for. Those hard fouls are now turning into flagrants.
Wow Nick wright ur daddy huh
Yt Fragility 😢
@allenday24 Stop lying for CC. At least one of her techs was for cursing at the ref (f you) after SHE was called for fouls. She's been known for her potty mouth. She's a fierce competitor, not a wallflower!
Not suprised that the Womens league only draw is Drama and soap opera 🤣
Duds, that would have been a fllagrant foul, in the NBA...On purpose or nor, she waked her in the head. That's Jaylon Brown hitting Kyrie Irving in the head going for a block. Flagrant 1. Just the letter of the game, Y'ALL doing way tooi much to create story lines
And she was given a flagrant. You commenting and didn’t watch the game. 🤣😂🤣
@@HonestLeighSpeaking He's not saying they didn't...he's talking about Chris....who's downplaying it on here and was doing the same thing on First Things First yesterday....it's why he's going with the "I guess it's the letter of the law, but..." nonsense and just saying it was a "hard foul".
I’m tired of the drama talk. Cc fans expect everyone to bend the knee and praise her at every opportunity. They are what’s gonna make everyone else resent her and not like her.
When i was in the military in 1982 thru 1985 my army unit we were huge fans of soap opera mainly the abc ones general hospital. All my children and one life to live and loving
A flagrant 1 was the correct call. Anybody bitching, moaning, complaining is so soft. Probably never played sports before. Crazy how people are trying to push a racial narrative.
It's not crazy with all the haiting these wnba players and former wnba players do on Clark. If this was a one off , then no big deal. But you can hear the hate in Reeses interview, last game she celebrated a cheap shot.
@@soda8736they're top athletes with competitive fire. What do you want them to do? Bow down and worship her?
@@agag2684 absolutely not. But I can't see how some people can't admit the WNBA players and former have a personal agenda against Clark. Sherel Swoops literally made up lies to hate on Clark.
@@soda8736 of course there's bound to be some jealousy. She's the new hotshot rookie that people were saying was coming to dominate their league yr 1. Lebrons own teammates his rookie yr were downplaying him. People are holding WNBA to different standards. There actually having segments on are People being too mean to CC. When would people ever have segments on are people being too mean to a man
@@agag2684🤦♀️holy hell y’all need some facts with evidence before piping off…. Contact Rules were rewritten for Michael Jordan…. Look it up. ✌️
They never talk basketball. Everything about her is overblown. That's why it's a talking point. That foul was a common foul in basketball. Yes it's a flagrant foul but this shouldn't even be a topic.
Welcome to social media, it's all about feelings over analysis, and facts.
Mabye because the person that hit her clearly hates her, celebrated when Clark was cheap shotted by Carter, and do an interview or a tweet with shading Clark. So it's more about who fouled Clark
@@soda8736 how does she hate her? when did she ever say that. Clark must hate playing defense or she must love complaining cause that is all she can do.
@ryanrichardson7941 I guess you see what u want . I can tell she hated her from the moment she followed Clark around the court for 40 seconds trying to get her attention to taunt her. But yea the list is too long too mention all the evidence out there that shows she hates Clark.
@@soda8736 she beat her for the championship if I remember correctly. Soooooo how does she hate her?
Any contact to head area is a flagrant foul no matter if it’s an accident or not
Bad rule in both the NBA and WNBA. These are basketball plays.
@@GnofgWell the problem is players with bad intention can make it look like a basketball play but the main purpose is to hit the guy or gal on the head. If you watch old school bball, guys like Laimbeer or Malone used to raise their arm to block the shot or go after a rebound but at the same time they made sure to drop their elbows on their target's face player's face.
@@naofumiiwatani1763 no comparison to Lambeer. Lambeer is the dirtiest player ever. He went for the body.
This was a basketball play. The flagrant foul rule is a poor rule both in the NBA and WNBA
@@Gnofg How dare they try to protect the vulnerability of players in the game with flagrant foul rules smh 😂😂😂😂
@@uncleb7821 it was a common foul. There is no intent. It happens all the time in the NBA and it sucks there too. The only team that really did cheapshots were the Pistons and they tackled you.
I have watched every NBA finals since 1965. Do you have any evidence of head injuries from fouls? If you ever played basketball you would no this is a common foul. If no intent then it should only be a common foul.
Listen to what Clark said in her presser and compare it to Reese. That's the real difference, the foul is a secondary matter, the lack of style is much more difficult to mend.
They can't talk about it. Reese consistently embarrasses herself. She's a professional victim. Clark has never said anything to her or about her. Reese is obsessed with Clark. It's weird.
It was a “basketball play” with intent to make contact with her head 😂
They are jealous of her, they are trying to hurt her and there’s nothing you can talk about when it comes to the game because the games themselves aren’t that interesting.
Only 3 teams have double digit wins and the rest are barely above or well below .500.
The problem with the NBA is it always puts too much attention on individuals and don’t push teams as much as they should. The fact that instead of you all actually talking about the games, you’re talking about the drama shows there’s not much to talk about.
Players, fans, and media that perpetuate the drama are no better than NASCAR fans that just watch for the crashes.
Man you actually have it entirely backwards. Stars are what bring people to watch and attend games, not teams. CC and Reese are fantastic examples of how people are interested in those players, not the teams they’re on
@@myllamaMan He's not ENTIRELY wrong. From an inclusivity and "moral" viewpoint, teams should absolutely be pushed more than individuals. However, individual stars are indeed what puts fans in seats, and businesses rarely discount that fact (Disney is a rare example but that is a different argument).
You lose any credibility when you claim that wasn’t a basketball play. She’s clearly staring AT THE BALL.
If you hoop, or actually watch basketball it was obvious it was a play on the ball that ended up just being a normal hard foul. Actually watch hoops before you start talking
I disagree she hit her on purpose no where near the ball
So you disagree with Caitlin ? because she said it was just a basketball play .
NO, SHE WAS LOOKING AT THE BACK OF HER HEAD AFTER HER WINDUP IS WHEN SHE LIFTED HER HEAD TO ACT LIKE SHE WAS LOOKING FOR THE BALL.
Football took over baseball as the top sport in America in the 70’s. Fantasy Football wasn’t even around then. In fact, Fantasy started in baseball before it even came to football. FF did ratchet up the popularity of the NFL even more, but it wasn’t the reason that football became the #1 sport.
Angel Reese is the Dennis Rodman of the WNBA but with mediocre defense!
Caitlin vs Angel = WWE
Got a hero & a heel. Who cares who wins as long as the fight is entertaining & on going.
resse is an enforcer. someone else had the block. reese was just head-hunting. reese only has two blocks for the year
She’s a walking double double. Everybody doing that?
@@dionshaewishum4179 Double doubles are overrated when the minimum requirements are 10 points 10 rebounds. You just have to camp under the basket, get rebounds, and then put a few back up, which is Reese's whole game. You can actually get both stats, rebound and bucket, both in the same play. Rebounds aren't hard to get when your whole focus is getting rebounds. Rebounds are guaranteed whenever there is a missed shot, you just have to be there to get it. Hell, Clark had 8 last game and she's a guard who plays perimeter defense who's not actively trying to get rebounds. The more impressive double double is points and assists. You actually have to create an assist in addition to the person needing to score for the assist to count. You can't score yourself and have an assist in the same play, unlike rebounding and putting it back up. In Reese's case, sometimes she can have 2-3 rebounds in a row from her own missed shots and then score. So that's 3-4 stats in one possession. And I've got a couple more stats about your walking double double: The Sky are 1-6 when Reese gets a double double, and they are 3-3 when she doesn't get a double double.
@CultureB4U2 Highly sought after? Is this why Reese went 7th in the draft? Wasn't even the first choice of her own team.
@CultureB4U2 15 10? 11 10 maybe
@@dionshaewishum4179yeah because she’s rebounding her missed lay ups all night
Enforcers don’t cry and complain
and your right.. I'm never going to watch a game... you are so right.. never seen one.. never going to... this is the most I've ever even Thought about WNBA... lol..
The men do more talking than the women. That call would not be talked about if that happened in the NBA.
I’ve seen soap operas run on tv for 30 years lol 🤷🏾♂️
The Media knows drama sells,They created this Division for revenue🥱
She should just say that it wasn’t her fault, she’s just a really bad shot blocker
CAITLIN-CLARK is suppose to be the WNBA GREAT-WHITE-SAVIOR !!!!
Most people don’t care about race
@@RageQuit29biggest lie you ever told yourself 😂😂😂
Chicago sky have played a total of 540 minutes this season, with 74 of those minutes against the Indiana fever. Chicago sky have a total of 2 flagrant fouls this season , with both of the flagrant fouls against the same team, and against the same player…Caitlin Clark!!!!
So you watch "SPEAK" also
@@samjones8501😂😂😂😂😂
WNBA might as well be As the world 🌎 turns
It’s a women’s sport lol was never gonna be about the play on the court was it 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Have you watched the women tennis game?
@@keneosegbo3788 I wouldn’t ever watch a women’s sport other than beach volleyball
@@Big_AL_Nowitzki so Mavs in 7 eh
@@nonamewillbegiven your mother in 7
@@Big_AL_Nowitzki the sign of defeat
Damn Angel can't look any more like Sid than that picture right there lol
😂
And Can'twin Clark looks just like Herman Munster 😂
@NicThomas7144 can't win because she was drafted by the worse team in the league. Still out scores, assists, and 3 pointers made and only 2 rebounds behind miss Clark whose rebounds come from 50% of her own shot less than 10 ft from the basket. Lol you just a racist hater. Caitlyn may not be the hottest but she is definitely hotter than 90% of the bull dagger league.
What beauty pagent will Caitlin ever win, I'm curious to know!😂
@mus434 Hey I ain't sayin' CC's a looker lol, Angel's a baddie haha
The problem with this whole scenario is that Angel Reese doesn’t exist or isn’t relevant without Caitlin. From her “you can’t see me gesture.” Which I find her making this racial because she said she did it for her “SEC Girls.” When have you heard a player getting mad because someone taunted an opponent of theirs?
Mashed potatoes and gravy. You can eat the mashed potatoes without the gravy, but you can't eat the gravy without the mashed potatoes. Reese is the gravy.
@@clarkkent1521 yup.
The media (including you guys) are the ones talking about the drama! You guys choose the programming. It’s so hypocritical to say all people talk about is the drama when it’s the sports shows pushing the stories.
The WNBA just isn’t good enough to talk about, there’s high school games that are far more entertaining
Drama sells, can't really blame them for "reporting" it as it creates ratings.
Just because I don't agree with the tactics, it doesn't make them invalid.
Exactly neither one of them dissect the game down...Chris was like did you see that hit CC across the head
@@dadillonfulok then do talk about it then
their wives are acting up at home they ha no choice but to act offended, lol.
It was clearly a flagrant foul. I find it crazy how almost everyone in the mainstream media is afraid to admit that. Angel Reese can ball and now she wants to embrace this villain image but I feel that she’s looking like a total poor sport atm. She clearly has some real disdain for Caitlin Clark. Magic and Bird were fierce rivals on the court but respected the hell out of each other off the court. They even made commercials together, and it was better for the NBA. Angel Reese could learn a lot from those two. I’m so over the WNBA soap opera drama.
People really letting their racial biases shine through and it's funny cos shoe on the foot the discourse would be completely different. It's a one way hostility and the fact that people cannot be honest about that I can't respect it.
As a black man that has seen Serena, Tiger and Lewis Hamilton have struggles with trying to break into white dominated sports. I'm appalled at the hypocrisy on display and people pretending this is normal behavior
What are people supposed to talk about, the stellar gameplay they’re witnessing?
One player racking up great rookie stats, one racking up fines, drama and shooting 30% from the floor being 5 feet from the basket.
Don’t be delusional like angel ain’t making history smh look at her stats u just a hater
Out of curiosity I check the standings of the WNBA yesterday. There's only 12 teams in the league. Clarks team is currently 8th and Angels is 9th. The fact that this league gets ANY coverage is a miracle. Theis product makes no money, and for the most part nobody cares. They finally have a couple of players that move the needle, so of course they have to leen i to those 2 or 3 players heavy. But the league as a whole isn't good, but at least they have a couple of interesting players...
Y’all didn’t even mention who won the game that Angel got the flagrant 1 against Clark.
Because nobody cares
@@ricorogers9319 I’m saying Chris and Rob were bemoaning the absence of coverage of the actual games and not just the drama and they are doing the same thing.
I been on this king of the hill binge on Hulu
King of the Hill is a classic
Binging Smallville on Hulu myself
@@jordanjenkins1671 I’m gonna have to check that out. Haven’t seen it before
@@deceptionmaneater3924 yea I’m on season 9
Lmao 🤣
If you hit someone in the head by accident cuz it was a basketball play.. Why not go and apologize and pick her up.... Or say sorry my fault... But she just looked and walk off... Too me this shows everything!
Shut up 🙄
Skip Bayless has gone all the way racial with it calling the blk girls bitter
When is the Lakers commentary about basketball? Its all LBJ drama with him blaming his teammates coaches and front office. What did David Stern say? "Our dirty little secret is that nobody watches the games."
Why is a college championship a requirement for WNBA but not the NBA?
The fact of the matter is if Caitlin Clark is not playing in the league you're not talking about the WNBA! Angel Reese does not move the needle.
Y’all wild for using that thumbnail of Angel!
🤣
How? She’s not very attractive
@@dadillonfulEspecially with her Foul Attitude....
@@dadillonfulshe’s decent lol. You’re just being a hater lol
@@dadillonfulshe look way better than Caitlin Clark. Way better. Body better too
You ever heard of no look passes basic acting like flopping she meant to clobber CC she had her in her sights and wasn't passing it up
I’m tired of you guys. Rob love you, but Chris your building one up and tearing down the other. Sit back one day and listen, there making Reese experience a living hell. It looks like she’s not having fun. Don’t be a pile on. Good day mate
They made Reese stand up and cheer when her teammate knocked Clark down when the ball wasn't even in play?? Really Reese could at anytime stop behaving the way she does.
@@chris20874go some where
@@chris20874 Exactly....she's like the chump who wrote that comment. She wants all the attention and acts like a clown and then cries any time she's called on it. "Pile on"...lol.
she needs to do the one thing she can't do. just stop talking about clark. that's it. she can't though, she needs to practice er layups.
The fact is the MLS (which season is going on throughout the summer) is way more popular than the WNBA and soccer is not a popular sport in the US and the MLS is ranked as the 15th best soccer league in the world. I am willing to bet that the USL Championship league has more devoted fans than the WNBA... Also the WTA is a much better product than the WNBA even if Iga Świątek dominates all other female players on clay aside from Sabalenka and Naomi Osaka. There is a reason why the media is pushing hard to get people watching the WNBA, but this time of year we have soccer, baseball, and tennis to hold us over until the next NFL season.
WHAT I'M MORE CONCERNED ABOUT IS WHY NONONE (I MEAN NOBODY) IS REALLY TALKING ABOUT THE DANA EVANS ARM LOCK ON CLARK.
Because that’s an average basketball move + Clark initiated the hook
For the SAME REASON that no one is talking about Clark’s CONSTANT stiff arm push offs! 😂😂😂
10:45 Rob G, had my dying
you're telling me a league full of women is more soap opera than basketball? inconceivable
1. you don't need to look directly at the person to foul them, come on, Chris, you covered sports for a long time, you ought to know that, they know what they're doing
They're all being deliberately obtuse and it's pathetic
She made a play on the ball and she also clobbered her in the head. You gotta call that call. Sorry.
What the hell your talking about "clobbering someone in the head" is like any other foul?
Cuz it is if you watch basketball
That’s bullshit. She close her and y’all know it. Just tell her like it is.
I've watched a few WNBA games this year and what I've noticed is the gameplay is boring. It feels like watching the 2007 Spurs who were really boring except every team plays like that.
So, if the WNBA wants to grow they need to switch up the rules to allow way more freedom of movement, encourage iso and handling, and move towards speed. The WNBA is way too slow right now and they shoot way too few 3pters.
The WNBA's pace is 78.8 and off rating at 102.3 and shooting 22.9 3pters on avg this season. In other professional sports, WRs have about a 12.5% diff between men and women. So, if you account for the physical differences between men and women, the WNBA should be at about an 87.0 pace, 110 off rating and shooting around 30 3s a game or about 12.5% less than the NBA.
Also, because the WNBA can't replicate the exciting high-flying plays, they really should lean into the exciting things they can like handling, flashy passes, deep 3s, speed, and fast action.
Read did you know Caitlin Clark got the most technical foul when she was playing in the NCAA go check it out and the referee will call the file soon as she get near her. I’m not looking somewhere trying to find these answers. I watch the games. I’m not new to this. I’m true to it.
We’re aware of her being a fiery competitor and apparently you forgot that her dad told her in one of her tournament games to shut up talking to the refs🤷🏿
I started to have some interest in watching the WNBA because I really enjoyed Caitlin Clarkes game in college.
All this soap opera stuff has turned me off.
And…
Chris Broussard is such a politician with his takes and it’s exhausting.
So in other words....true Fans like competition and wannabe fans / sports writers / ESPN / Fox Sports etc like soup opra drama.
I nevet thought that Mommy Africa would make Chris bow down. Sir, that would have been a flagrant in the NBA . Cut it out !
Reese having a so so year. Vast majority of her rebounds are from her own misses.
That's a good one 😂😂
I've yet to hear one iota of WNBA analysis. It's simply, Clark got fouled again, the women are jealous and Reese is a thug. Haven't seen a breakdown of a game or the skill of any of the players, including Clark. End of the game it's, "Clark had 20/6/8". Nothing about how she got it or the impact or lack of.
That's the beauty of UA-cam. You can make short videos on specific things. You don't need a long video that covers every aspect of the everything.
Man get tf outta here with CC being the leader for Roy Angel leads the league in offensive rebounds and CC leads the league in turnovers gtfoh
lol cc > reese and its not even close
I mean...the ONLY person that talks about basketball and NONE of the other stuff is CC. Let's be honest. I like AR's game, but she needs some media training. The press is complicit in all of this. Literally the only person who tries to move it to basketball is CC.
Angel Reese is a double-double machine.
It’s an automatic flagrant, in the rule book. Do better Chris
Lets be real. These r not the wmba new fans these r just CC n angel reese fans. Something i been say the start of this year. N with that other ladies or gents r getting eyes on them. But still not wmba new fans
Yep! And I never thought I would agree with Rob,but it will never grow! It's not about basketball. It's just picking sides! That's it!
TMZ reported that flagrant foul. Come on man , all of this coddling CC is getting annoying
Yeah, she hasn’t been targeted 🤣🤣🤣
@@jasonlewis1926 I never said that but everything that happens to her is not targeted & she’s not the only player getting hit
@@Truckloadlil Chicago Sky has only 2 flagrant fouls so far. Both on C.Clark. Not targeted?
In competition A R could come close to. C C on any thing
Is a “no look pass” Magic from Magic intentional…? Just because Reese was looking at the ball does not mean she was not intending to clock CC’s head… Bad take CB…
Blame media piggy backing off negatively. Blame negative embrace from wnba to new fans, commentary and CC herself. Blame the immaturity of WNBA players and their personal drama they bring into their own game. Blame them when their league doesn’t do well
Rob you guys in the media have made it about ALL the other stuff besides basketball...
Gossiping like women,Now you know why soap operas been on Tv for over 30 years.The media knows drama sells,The Media created this division for revenue 🥱
Stop your soap opera discourse, please.
Chris Broussard- she never won in college. I'm just stating facts😂
Steph Curry never won a championship in college either. I'm just stating facts!
I never watch the WNBA until CC came
Brou is so woke 😂😂, Reese is such a victim
Another person that doesn't know what woke means.
And Clark is the little girl that's going to save the league from the scary black women
The media has officially taken woke and changed the definition
@@donaldchesser157 White Media
For yall to say quit. Being a victim sure like to play victim a lot imagine crying over what a ROOKIE said at a press conference
Chris, what rivalry? If you get in my face and yell at me and I walk away, we not rivalries when I see you again SMH. Why are you feeding into that, it's not a rivalry at all; it's one person talking and the other walking by.
This whole entire Wnba thing is like a early 2000s reality show.. lml
*at some point you do have to talk about the game*
Who won? We do know because you guys dont watch and they didnt speak on it
To be honest, the W games are poorly coached and played. Caitlin is trying to get the league to act and play like a legitimate professional league. The league is not used to analysts breaking down how they play the game. We will see if they can elevate the coaching and quality of play.
It was much 2 do about nothing honestly. Reese missed the block & hit Clark unintentionally. It's a basketball play. Carter's foul last match-up was a flagrant that the refs missed. It was a good back-and-forth that Indy won. Feels like the media stirs up drama more so than the players 🙄
Place WNBA in your segment WITHOUT CC. We double dawg dare you. You won't draw flies.
WNBA IS MY FAVORITE TELENOVELA
lol Monday night raw reference! forgot about that NONSENSE!
They are trying so hard to get people to watch and its not working lol 😂 I swear the same “controversy” plays itself out every week
Sports media literally went from showing you the highlight reel all night to solid debate to now it's hot take TV
PURE FAKE, nitpicking, and BANDWAGON OUTRAGE that won't exist in two seasons......
C
This will wear thin quickly!
It's amazing how many people think just because she is looking at the ball, these elite athletes don't have the peripheral awareness to make fouls look unintentional. Athletes at an elite level of competition in all sports push limits at what they can get away with. I think this elite rebounder Angel Reese was keenly aware of her body positioning over Caitlyn Clarks as she went for the ball and in that split second decided if she put a little umph in the block attempt and it hits Clark its close enough to a basketball move to look unintentional. Just like athletes flop they also try to make fouls look unintentional.A Key stat, Angel Reeses team only has 2x flagrant fouls the entire season after playing against over 100 different players, both fouls were against the same player, Caitlyn Clark.
The media coverage is embarrassing. They can’t accept that is normal competitiveness. The same thing happens in the nba with hurt feelings, jealously, resentment etc.
THANK YOU 🙏🏾 ROB PARKER‼️
I have been saying the same dadgum thing since the beginning of the season. I am genuinely not interested in the “she said/she said” nonsense