Joe Dante's Battle With Hollywood
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Sources / Further Reading:
The AV Club Interview with Dante (Nov 2000) - bit.ly/36MW5j5
SuicideGirls Interview with Dante (June 2007) - bit.ly/3kFoDCY
DenOfGeek Interview with Dante (Feb 2008) - bit.ly/3zhYkXF
Mubi Interview with Dante (May 2009) - bit.ly/3iuzTzu
Fangoria Interview with Dante (Oct 2009) - bit.ly/3wQTQ8N
Chicago Reader Interview with Dante (Aug 2012) - bit.ly/3ioEfIg
SyFy Interview with Dante (May 2016) - bit.ly/3xWlwdI
Joe Dante speaks about Explorers' troubled production - bit.ly/3zjR91b
Brad Bird talks about The Iron Giant's production - bit.ly/3Bo8Uyf
Quest for Camelot's troubled production - bit.ly/3kKqd6V
Cats Don't Dance's troubled production - bit.ly/3hUDTdK
Hints of Osmosis Jones' troubled production - bit.ly/3hSSrdL
The Sublime Satire of Gremlins 2 by Witney Seibold - bit.ly/3kSj2JZ
Music:
Lukrembo - "Beat Store", "Flowers", "Teapot", "Wine"- / lukrembo
Beethoven - "Symphony No. 8 in F Major Op 93"
Lex Villena - "11"
Chris Zabriskie - "CGI Snake", "Candlepower", "Rewound" - chriszabriskie...
Franz Schubert - "Symphony No. 3 in D Major D 200"
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Surprised you didn't mention the Chuck Jones cameo in the beginning of Gremlins! Joe Dante truly showed his admiration for C Jones in every film.
There's lots of Looney Tunes love in InnerSpace as well, a bunny names Bugs, an actual Bugs Bunny doll, and Chuck Jones himself
There's always a "surprised you didn't mention blah blah blah"
Just inform us of said blah blah blah
One of my personal heroes too! =)
that shot of Elmer Fudd chasing Bugs and Daffy into a Salvador Dali painting and then them all starting to melt into shapes was fantastic. If that is any indication of the rest of it you might be right
eh, you like watching Brendan and Jenna try to flirt and get their jobs back?
@@Malkmusianful maybe not
That's definitely the stand-out segment in the movie. But yeah the rest of the movie is pretty much like the other guy said, though the Looney Tunes are still great throughout the film.
STAAAWWWP OOORRHH EYE'LL FFFIIIIYAAAAHHH!!!
@@studiodaeera. Imagine if he'd make a fully animated looney tunes movie!
"Back in Action is better than Space Jam."
My Man!
Them's fighting words.
@@SirBlackReeds No, they’re not. Joe Dante said he hated Space Jam and felt it was disrespectful to the legacy of Warner cartoons, which immediately got my attention. It was a film made with artistic integrity. Space Jam was a cash-grab piece of garbage with absolutely no merit whatsoever. No one with an appreciation for films and animation thinks Space Jam was good. No one.
@@wellesradio _"No one with an appreciation for films and animation thinks Space Jam was good. No one."_
Sounds rather snobbish.
Also, having just seen _Looney Toons: Back in Action..._ yeah, I don't think I'll ever put it above the bizarre yet lasting alchemy that is _Space Jam._
@@Wired4Life2 Oh, Back in Action is flawed and disappointing for sure, but that was the result of a lot of tampering and a difficult production. The end result is not a great film. But Space Jam is just visual excrement. It’s Freddy Got Fingered levels of bad.
@@wellesradio Nah, Space Jam is entertaining. I'd say that "excrement" has to at least fall short of that mark. If Space Jam is visual excrement, think I prefer that to the visual masturbation that dominates art films and Oscar bait dramas. They set out to make an entertaining film and they achieved that. Is it great? No. Do I prefer Back in Action? Yes. Does that make Space Jam literal shit? Not by a long shot.
Brad Bird's quote about building a team is so on point it almost hurts. Walt Disney didn't start out making feature animated films. there was doubt that such a thing could ever be done in a way that's financially viable. But Disney had a plan. The Silly Symphony shorts became a testing ground for expanding what could be done with narrative through animation. And as the series got further on, the shorts become longer and more elaborate. They used the shorts as a dry run for developing talent and figuring out what needed to come together for shorts. Point is that Bird's right. It was a gradual process that let Disney develop an animation department capable of doing these things.
Also, interesting to point out is that Disney almost had to start from scratch all over again in the late 70s and early 80s when Black Cauldron was a huge flop. There was talk about scrapping the animation division all together.
There was talk of animation going down, but Roy Disney wouldn't have let that happen. Roy was a force throughout his time at Disney, despite being shunned by Walt himself. Walt and Roy Sr died at a... Normal age for the time, but Roy was the rock.
You should check out Michael Eisners biography, it details a lot of his life at paramount and Disney, I'm about 3/4 of the way through
Also omg, the video actually mentions Eisner around the 16 minute mark. Him, Katzenberg, and Diller were all good friends (But absolute assholes to each other)
When I was a kid I was OBSESSED with Back in Action, I would rent it on the video store every single weekend. I loved it. Never understood why people talk about so much about Space Jam but never gave BIA the love it deserves.
Sounds like you spent more money on that movie renting it than if you were to just buy it. Though I might have grew up at the ending years of rental stores and they were just more expensive in general.
Yooo me too, when I was like 6 someone got me space jam and looney tunes BIA in a bundle and that was MY movie I watched it like everyday for a year I can't hate either of those movies because I'm tottaly nostalgia blind
Yeah, I also used to watch it on TV every time
And now Warner Bros is not crediting a Puerto Rican animator I know for the new Space Jam, even still using frames and designs he worked on.
oh yeah im pretty sure i saw a tiktok about an animator who wasnt paid a lot and even got their name spelled wrong in the credits who worked on the new space jam as well. cant find it now tho
Also, it doesn’t help that WB is using AI to make movies now!
@@SlapstickGenius23 oh? Can you elaborate?
@@ickyvicky3817 the reason why the voice actors and a single Puerto Rican animator aren’t credited for this film is that WB has a crowd of Computer AI preferring big name celebrities over voice actors or even anything in between.
@@SlapstickGenius23 I can't tell if you're joking?
Hearing about Dante's career kind of depresses me. Starting out as a Roger Corman protégé, promoted to a blockbuster filmmaker, and was downgraded to television directing. The man couldn't catch a break. Outside of a couple of independent films and his podcast, we haven't really seen him make a grand comeback like Spike Lee or Clint Eastwood.
Or George Miller
Yup...can't believe he would wind up directing episodes of Hawaii Five-0 (the rebooted version)
It doesn't particularly sound like he wants a big comeback. If he doesn't want anything to do with the studio system then more power to him I say.
I think the spark is gone, like with John Carpenter. He had some bad luck starting with Explorers.
Well Hollywood pretty much blacklisted him and he was just tired of all the BS politics and wanted no part of that
I honestly wish “What’s Up Flop” was a legit book that I could read. We need more writing examining the history of animation in the 90s, not just the Disney Renaissance.
I stand by my opinion that the scene in Back in Action where Elmer Fudd is chasing Bugs and Daffy through the Louvre is one of the most masterfully directed scenes in any feature-length American animated film
Having just seen _Back in Action_ for the first time, I'll admit that the Louvre chase was easily my favorite moment of the film. That said, I'll also admit that it doesn't exactly forward the story much and you're watching it while aware that the story has to pause for it to occur.
Finally someone giving the respect this movie deserves.
Shoutout to Brendan Fraser, Hollywood did him dirty
Ah, but how much respect does it really deserve?
they haven't trusted or understood the characters since the old days. Nowadays they think humans are more fun than the toons.
Speaking of Fraser, he and Timothy Dalton are back together in Doom Patrol
@@SirBlackReeds more than it got, that much is obvious
Then, he got his redemption with Doom Patrol.
6:14 Fun fact, what made the looney Tunes what they are now was exactly that. For a long time no one on the top cared how things were been done, they let the animators and directors do as they wanted, and the characters they wanted to do. I feel like now there are too many restrictions, and to keep the magic of this characters is a struggle, and a lost fight, because they are never going to find the same freedom to be absolutly anarchist.
His argument is actually really easy to shoot down. Two simple words and a letter: American History X.
Yes, Greg Ford told me that a few years ago (a former employee of his was my first year professor at SVA, and Ford came to talk to my class once). According to him, their film "(Blooper) Bunny" was withheld from release for about six years because WB would let them release it with Daffy's line "WB doesn't have an original bone in their body!" and this is something a classic short could get away with because nobody at WB actually watched the films, they just bankrolled and released them.
The Merry History of Looney Tunes also gives credit to the original producers, namely Leon Schlesinger and Eddie Selzer but also their successors, for cultivating the environment that allowed their artists to work undisturbed. It wasn't that interference from studio brass WASN'T a threat, it was that the producers were very good at staving them off and believed that the animators did their best work when they were just left alone to do their jobs, and just trusted them to do so ("trust" being a key word here). See also Ralph Bakshi on "Mighty Mouse: The New Adventures," the cartoons Spielberg produced with WB in the 90s, Linda Simensky's time at both Nickelodeon and Cartoon Network, all producers who were very good at negotiating, shared the philosophy that people do their best work when they're trusted to do so without being micromanaged and were willing to shoulder most of the burdens that came with it (that's what a great leader is expected to do: take credit for success and blame for failure). Plus, being trusted just makes you feel good, and the guarantee of both that positive response AND proper compensation makes you want to work harder; that's why screen credit was one of the reasons the Disney artists fought to unionize in the 40s: being paid for your hard work is great, but why work that hard if that's all you get from it?
Artists should be able to defend their decisions, but their job isn't to negotiate, and forcing them to shoulder that responsibility gives them less energy to do their ACTUAL job. I equate it to teachers being expected to buy their own school supplies: putting that responsibility on them means less energy to focus on their actual job of teaching, and when students turn out poorly, the detached superiors either blame the kids for being "too difficult" or blame the teachers for not working hard enough. No one is infallible, obviously, but I think we can all agree that it's better to take risks trusting someone than to not trust anyone out of fear of risk.
You should talk about the 2005 Blue Sky animated film, Robots. There’s VERY little info about what happened during the development, and production of the film.
Probably for a reason
Seconded! That film is weak, but solid enough, story-wise, but the visuals? They hold up spectacularly well! The design of the world and characters and the lighting and rendering look almost brand new. It's a wonderful film to look at. Chris Wedge is slept on as a director, I think. The first Ice Age is also wonderfully designed and animated and very heartfelt and hilarious.
Glad you shined a light on Joe Dante,... an 80s nostalgic director, that was mostly shunned by Hollywood,... He deserved better... Innerspace is my favourite of his....
I remember once my friend asked me what my 5 favourite movies were and, after putting in my usual top 3 of the time (Alice in Wonderland, 12 Angry Men and Whiplash), I added in Gremlins 2 as a joke. He said he had never seen it and as I tried to describe the movie I slowly realised just how insane it actually is. I gave it a rewatch a week later and now it's unironically in my top 3 personal favourite movies of all time
Back in Action is such a fun movie, i'm glad people are finally recognizing it.
I'd love to watch a movie of just cartoon characters in a live action eviorment, like the old cartoon network bumpers.
It’s something we won’t see in a long time. Yeah the new Space Jam has that but it’s not the same as they go from 2D to 3D later on
After the excrement that was Space Jam 2, this movie deserves its praise.
"Back in Action is better than Space Jam"
THANK YOU
So, that "What's Up, Flop?" book is gonna be real right? I googled it not realizing that was your name on the cover and I desperately wanna own it. Preferably in Audiobook form so I can work on animation while listening.
I'm lowkey really upset that this isn't a book. I checked on Amazon and Google myself, haha.
Same. It took me too long to realize the book wasn't real. Great title though.
the title is GENIUS
I loved watching Loony Toons Back in Action as a kid. This was such an amazing watch!
I saw like 10 minutes of it on tv when I was like 8. Same with Space Jam.
Same! The humongous rock is still probably my favorite joke of the film!
So did I, but now I thought adding more and change a few things around
Its Tunes.
FWIW, years ago composer Mike Verta talked about how even the trailer for "Back in Action" was micromanaged
Any link?
Back in action is not a 10 out of 10 movie but you can tell people who cared about the Looney tunes made it. would of had loved to see it with out all the studio meddling.
it's honestly an 8 out of 10 for me. one of the weaker Dantes, but still very, very, very fun, plus good Wal-Mart gag.
Back in Action was kinda average if you ask me. Out of all the Looney Tunes movies so far, it's probably the weakest one. And the reason I say weakest is because it's not that I dislike the movie, it's just it ranks the lowest in my opinion. Even when I was a kid I wasn't too into the movie. With that being said, I blame all the studio meddling on why I rank Back in Action low. If there wasn't any studio meddling, I probably would've ranked it A LOT higher and probably would've enjoyed it more.
I'm so glad someone else appreciates Gremlins 2 as much as I do. My favorite sequel of all time and a perfect follow-up to a movie that was already essentially a satire of other movies.
Yeah, i've loved Gremlins 2 since it first came out. I'm really glad that it's still remembered and, if anything, has just become more appreciated over time. Dante was so far ahead of the curve on meta/ironic filmmaking that no one in 1990 had any idea what he was even doing.
Redlettermedia speak very fondly of it despite fans criticizing them for it
I just woke up and discovered this new video of yours: considering how deep into detail you go, it be finally nice to know the real story behind this film and what happened to poor Joe Dante. Plus, I'm probably one the few people who actually likes "Back In Action" so there's that too.
I got your back, i also like it very much!
Back In Action is the best live action Looney Tunes movie, better than both Space Jams. I said what I said. I was recently bummed to find out it’s the only one not on HBO Max
Not the only one! I LOVED THIS MOVIE! It’s one of our family’s favorites!
J
@@javierpucheu6150 Thanks so much for saying so
Man, you are truly an artist. Your videos are genuinely the highest quality I've seen on this platform. Keep it up, dude.
I love Joe Dante- Innerspace, Small Soldiers, and Gremlins are like a spiritual trilogy to me, I can watch all three in a row and just have an awesome time.
Your suggestion for the production hell of Osmosis Jones is correct. The movie was supposed to be only animation, the story of the cells and the pill being the central focus, the producers got worried that the animation wouldn't have been enough, so they asked the Farrelly brothers to direct live action scenes, and that's why the movie is hybrid.
Also not to mention is that Osmosis Jones was originally going to be PG-13 rated film for teenagers and adults, but Warner Bros had the film edited down into a family friendly PG rating instead, because Warner Bros at that time did not want to make a PG-13 or R rating animated film. I’m guessing because due to problems and failure of Hey Good Looking, witch was a R rated animated comedy film directed by Ralph Baskhi and released in 1982 that Warner Bros made and did little business on release.
The level of polish, story, and effort in this video is really impressive!
I was 13 when Back in Action came out and went to see it twice because I loved it so much.
I think I’m responsible for at least 50% of the total box office gross that film made.
The only thing I remember about Back in Action was that Jeff Gordon was in it. And that’s only because I really liked NASCAR when I was little
Joe Dante is low key one of the best director of his kind.
In my opinion, Joe is one of the best directors in Hollywood. I consider him on the same level as Steven Spielberg, Richard Donner, Ron Howard, George Lucas and etc.
When I saw Explorers as a kid, I remember feeling crushingly deflated by that ending, as the whole film had felt like a build-up to grand adventures, and then it just...stops. Now I'm older I can appreciate it for what it is, the story of the boys and their friendship rather than a huge, epic sci-fi journey, even if the ending is still a bit of a cop-out. But who know what it could've been if they'd actually been allowed to finish it!
A good comparison would be to Flight Of The Navigator, another film from the era that includes a young protagonist psychically linked to an alien ship that he sees in dreams, and which also has a rushed third act conclusion with a really jarring tonal shift into wacky comedy. I understand the original script was a lot darker (and there's lot of unsettling material in the first two acts), but there was a lot of studio pressure to make it more kid-friendly, hence the bizarre last third of the movie with Pee-Wee Herman and the cute alien puppets etc.
I'm so glad I'm not the only one that thinks Back in Action is the best looney tunes movie. It captured the characters perfectly. The comedy and writing was just like the original cartoons.
I agree. This might be an unpopular opinion, but I thought between Back In Action and the two Space Jam movies, BIA has the best voice acting. I feel like a part of it though is that they remind me of The Looney Tunes Show.
@@cooperwolfe5478 I agree BIA had the best voice actors
@@ClicheOriginals I agree. Hey I’m sorry bother you about this, but I don’t know who else to ask, but do you happen to have Disney+ and if so did you have any problems logging in to it. I don’t mean to be disrespectful or rude, it’s just that I’ve had struggles with it today and I thought that it was my fault, but I’ve seen some reports online that the same problem that I had is happening to other people. Again I’m really sorry to bother you it’s just that I get really nervous when technology malfunctions and truly didn’t know who else to ask. Thank You
@@cooperwolfe5478 I have it yes but I haven't had any problems with it lately. Sorry
@@ClicheOriginals Oh okay sorry to bother you about it. I think from what I was researching that other people are having the same problem so I don’t think it’s me personally who is the only one that’s having problems.
The Space Jam OST is the magic sauce that made the rest of the strange ingredients work. Very much a product of it's time, and however enjoyable it dosen't compare to Roger Rabbit which Noir feel seems much more timeless to me
Roger rabbit actually got me into film noir
"A quote fron Dante himself"
Why did I think he's talking about Alighieri?
I don't think Deadpool is nearly as apt a comparison as Michael Dougherty's 'Trick 'r Treat' and 'Krampus' (Which is honestly the closest thing to a modern Gremlins). Michael Dougherty feels like Dante's successor having that same biting satire and zany absurdist energy with the genre affection still coming through.
It's probably more conventional and wasn't mired in production hell, but I love Dante's Matinee. It's a great love letter to the real B-movies in their hey-days (and William Castle in particular).
It's a really nice personal cap to his career after his good run in the 80's.
Always love Matt Stone's philosophy about studio interference, short, sweet and to the point:
"Cooperation + you [the studio] doing nothing = success"
(Translation: just let us do our jobs and everything will turn out fine)
Yeah. I wish that was something that the dumb executives can get through their heads, and that they should be aware of the fact that when you give creative freedom, you get great films. But when you’re basically being an asshole about it, you and everyone fails. That should be the lesson every studio executive should know
I'm so incredibly overjoyed that someone else recognizes the sheer brilliance of Gremlins 2.
Gremlins 2 is better than 1, change my mind.
@@artistanthony1007 I -will not- because you are correct
Joe Dante still remains my favorite film director, not because every movie he made was a masterpiece, but he truly just made the kind of movies I love to watch and always dream to make.
And all those films had amazing music by the late Jerry Goldsmith.
After seeing "Space Jam: A New Legacy," and now *this,* I now have a desire to see Joe return as director for the "New Legacy" sequel, as long as the studio DOES give him 100% creative freedom (which, I know, is rare for them to do, but a gut can dream).
13:55 I never noticed that was actually Matthew Lillard hanging out with Shaggy! Great Cameo.
I'm curious if you would discuss 3 Peter Jackson films. The Frighteners, the remake of King Kong and The Lovely Bones. I especially don't see King Kong 2005 talked about more which I find odd since it was meant to be a Lord of the Rings style epic.
Must people just complain that it's too long (I'm talking about King Kong)
The Frighteners is fucking awesome.
This was my favorite movie of all time when I was a child, before I discovered Who Framed Roger Rabbit lol
Thank you for making this. Joe Dante has been one of my primary inspirations. Such an underrated filmography because studio meddling, and very poor marketing.
P.S. Would love to see Mr. Dante make a biopic about Roger Corman. That would be awesome 😍
a lot of interesting points, here.
One of the most consistent things about Dante (and don't get me wrong - I think he's great) is that he always blames everyone else for his failures. I interviewed him on the set of MASTERS OF HORROR while he was directing an episode; I was left with the impression of a man who was totally depressed. (I got the same impression from Lawrence Kasdan when I chatted with him)
The only time Dante sparked was when I asked him if he made GREMLINS today, would he use any CGI - he was adamant that he HATES CGI; that using puppets (and their limitations) is what made the movie work. I certainly agree. I think Dante is a great filmmaker who lacks objectivity about his own work - which is wildly inconsistent.
Joe Dante is a filmmaker known for The Burbs, The Howling, Rock N Roll High School and director of the movie Gremlins and it’s sequel Gremlins 2: The New Batch
I was born in 81 and the explorers was one of my favorites. I haven't seen it since though. Had some big waves of nostalgia just happen and now I'm sad. Lol
The Dick Miller subplot in Explorers is so galling because the guy puts so much into his character's connection to the story,. And it's not brief, there is quite a bit of screentime setting up his connection, and then they never return to it. We can only assume he had an interaction with the Aliens when he was younger.
The Love Interest also has build up, and nothing until her brief reappearance at the end in a kind of resolution. Explorers is probably one of my earliest realizations that a movie had scenes missing.
Stupid Hollywood should've given Joe Dante a few more chances and I definitely believe that the Joe Dante's Gremlins Sequel "Gremlins 2: The New Batch" is the 100% top best.
Gotta love the Joe Dante to Dante Alighieri connection. The story of all nightmarish film productions could be told using The Inferno.
If you haven't seen the Key and Peele Gremlins 2 sketch yet, please check it out immediately.
The Warner executives probably thought a cartoon director was somebody who said "okay Bugs, let's take it from the top"(Quote from Joe Adamson).
I heard it's pretty common when new executives come on in movies and tv to kill or sabotage anything their predecessors worked on because they can't take credit for it. I'm thinking that's what happened to explorers
I've heard that too but doesn't that mean the new execs look bad at their job as the first things they release are under-funded, under-marketed and badly handled to lose the studio money. And the studio heads might think to get rid of them before they have a chance to do their originally generated projects.
I saw Explorers as a kid in the eighties and watched it confused for the first 2/3 of it until they finally reached the spaceship … when it then suddenly pivoted to such awesome silliness that I couldn’t stop laughing.
I loved Explorers … most especially the third act. For years I would randomly break out with “A horse is a horse of course of course” and pantomime a funny walk when I found myself in conversations not going anywhere. At that time I had no idea that Mr. Ed had ever existed or that most any of the lines came from actual shows. I quoted various pieces of that movie for years afterward and still remember pieces of it clearly (almost all from the third act).
Haven’t thought about that for quite a while until seeing this video. Good times.
Only wish it had played out better for the movie makers themselves. It was great for me as a kid.
Funny how The Explorers finished filming in Feb 1985, and The Transformers The Movie had a 2nd draft script made in April 1985 and both of them feature an alien race who communicate via TV and Film references.
I was thinking of that bit in Transformers while watching Explorers
I think that Joe Dante wanted to make an autobiography film about Chuck Jones and other animators who made the Loony Tunes. The studio said if certain films were made that he could do that if they were successful
Yeah he wanted to do either a film or HBO documentary series called Termite Terrace which would’ve looked at Chuck’s career at Warner Bros animating and directing the shorts, but the execs specifically said to him “Look Joe, we love what you do, but that’s old story, it’s got period stuff in it. We don’t want that. We want to rebrand our characters and we wanna do Space Jam.”
I've always wondered what the story was behind "Gremlins 2: The New Batch" and why it differed so much from its prequel. Now I know. Thanks. :)
Keep up the nice work, these videos are very informative and the passion is just infectious. :)
Rewatching this video a year later, I can say that anarchy in film happened again with everything everywhere.
The concept of holding entire conversations just with pop culture references was done really well in a Rebecca Sugar comic called "Don't Cry For Me, I'm Already Dead," which is about two friends who regularly communicate through Simpsons quotes and are able to keep communicating after one of them suffers brain damage.
"Back In Action is better than Space Jam"
I mean Back In Action was made with the intent to make a Looney Tunes movie, and both Space Jam movies were made with the intent to sell Nike shoes and Rick and Morty. So yeah, I would say that's a fairly obvious statement.
He means Space Jam 1 dummy
This movie was my childhood. Alongside the Chuck Jones cartoons I would watch it back to back throughout the whole day sometimes.
Chuck Jones only? Not Bob Clampett or Friz Freleng or Tex Avery or Bob McKimpson or Arthur Davis or Frank Tashlin?
Eh, Chuck Jones is kind of overrated. His take on Bugs and Daffy would go onto define who they are: Bugs being the brains and Daffy being a fool. They should be on par with each other.
@@SirBlackReeds yeah especially that Chuck Jones makes Daffy an unlikeable character
Always great to see a reference to Hellzapoppin. My dad introduced me to the film this past year & I fell completely in love with its wackiness.
Is it me or I’m noticing UA-cam is killing channels like yours. You deserve way more views.
Thank you very much for this video analysis, sir. Joe Dante has always been one of my favorite directors and I feel he needs more recognition. I was particularly hooked on your comments about Explorers. It's one of my favorite films of all time, and your conclusion on its themes of escapism, expectations and disappointment are the same points I tell people when they can't understand my love for the film and believe there is no value in it. The boys want to escape their lives, but learn that life in space is not so different from their own. Which makes the sinking of the ship at the end of the movie all the more bittersweet for me. It's like they're making the transition from childhood to maturity by saying goodbye to "the dream". The tagged-on additional dream during the end credits probably makes the sinking scene pointless, but maybe Mr. Dante is trying to say that just because you keep your feet on the ground, it doesn't mean you can't still dream a little. Anyway, thank you so much for this enlightening video.
Love how this film is making a resurgence recently. I grew up with this one, and glad to see people getting more and more interested with BiA
The film which caused WB to abandon the Looney Tunes just because it flopped in the box office, is now becoming a cult favorite after Space Jam 2 and Looney Tunes Cartoons brought the characters back from the dead.
Thanks for making this video there are not enough videos exploring Joe Dantes's cinema and he is a really unique auteur
Hellzapoppin' is great! Love the soundtrack. I got surprised when you mentioned it because I had watched it just some weeks ago. great to see a movie from this time being mentioned in a video, more people nowadays gotta know some of these.
I came here for Back in Action, but I stayed for the whole pop culture thing and just how interestingly told this is. Explorers predicted, howpop culture has been so ingrained into our minds, that we can communicate with eachother just using it. I mean just look at the memes, to the point where in Space Jam 2 Big Chungus was included in there lol
“I’m there for them” sums up EVERY Godzilla movie experience I have, human time is nap time
Gore Verbinksi’s Rango shares some of the anarchic, genre-subverting, how-did-this-movie-even-get-made soul of Gremlins 2. Its bizarre pacing, weighty subtext, deliberately oddball design, and madcap tone place it comfortably outside the mainstream, and it all smacks of the director having more-or-less complete creative control over the film. Might be worth a rewatch and comparison!
Oh man you just reminded me of when I saw it when it first came out I was 11 and I just liked it at the time now I love the hell out of it
Joe Dante was a huge part of my childhood. The ‘Burbs was one of my favorite movies as a kid. My brother and I prob watched it 100 times. One of those movies that you can quote every single line. I don’t think I knew til I was a bit older that he also directed Gremlins.
I love the visual style to your editing and graphics
The segment in the art gallery is surreal and inspired and the highlight of the movie.
After the production of Cats Don't Dance, Turner Feature Animation was folded into Warner Bros. Feature Animation in early 1997 with the production of Quest for Camelot.
Joe Daunte directed the live-action of Looney Tunes Back in Action, the animation of it was directed by Eric Goldberg.
I've been watching the Lindy Hop scene from Hellzapoppin since I was in high school, but I never knew the movie had so much else going on! Thanks for the tip!
Forgot about the part where shaggy is talking to Mathew lillard. Thank you
Explorers was my favorite movie as a kid.. I probably watched it 100+ times.. even more.
6:07 That's a pretty bold statement for a westoid that seems oblivious to animation outside of his own sheltered 'murica
If anything, this movie features the last score from Dante's ride or die collaborator, the maestro Jerry Goldsmith. He worked to the very end of life.
“Joe Dante’s Devine Comedy.”
It’s official, I love you.
Dreamworks screwed with Joe Dante's original edgy vision for "Small Soldiers" after the PG-13 rating and the Burger King sponsorship shitting a brick over it.
13:55 are we not gonna talk about Matthew Lillard having a conversation with animated Shaggy?
Long before Space Jam 2 did its WB shared universe.
Um, excuse you. Space Jam WAS given a true sequel back in 2008! It was called "Barkley, Shut Up and Jam: Gaiden." And it was AMAZING.
Great video, these filmmaker profiles are definitely your specialty. I was obsessed with The Burbs growing up.
Wife and I watched Matinee a few months ago, very sweet little post-Gremlins 2, pre-LT:BIA Joe Dante movie, starring John Goodman. Would recommend
Joe Dante's best film was the extremely underrated Matinee. So much heart, expertly executed.
3:43 you have no idea how badly I want that to be a book
3:53 got excited there for a second thought this book was actually out there in existence.
That is a really well made book cover by the way. Nice job on that.
13:55-Wouldn’t that be potentially a modern ‘toon version of Hellzapoppin’? I think It’d work!
you never cease to make brilliantly written and edited videos.
I just watched HELLZAPOPPIN and there's now a video talking about it briefly. Talk about giddy.
Man, I've been waiting on a video on this topic for a long time, thank you very much for making it (and making 40 minutes at that)!
I just finished watching a video from this channel discussing how the film studios are treating the CGI studios and departments. It's eerie and logical how similar the overarching issues there are to the overarching issues the animators experienced here.
This video is something I didn't know I wanted. Those types of videos really stand out to me.
Talks about the seamless blending in back in action while showing a clip of Jenna elfman holding Daffy duck but feels like she's holding absolutely nothing.
WB is the place where dreams go to die.
The “Movie Orgy” was just a UA-cam Compilation and I’m here for it!! 😂
THANK YOU!! Back In Action VINDICATED!!
My live-action & Cartoon world tier list is essentially:
1. Who Framed Roger Rabbit?
2. Looney Tunes Back in Action
3. Space Jam
It’s sad that the list is that short. There have been other films that have employed the technique, but never for the entire film. The ending of Song of the South does it well considering the time period in which it released, but it’s only for a small portion. Some films use CGI to imitate hand-drawn, such as the recent Tom and Jerry movie. That is what I’m guessing the, hopefully, upcoming Coyote vs Acme will do as well.