Amtrak P-811 MOW Track Laying System Crew Placing Concrete Ties
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- See how it's done up close as an Amtrak work crew uses the P-811 Track Laying System to lift the new track, push the aggregate aside, pull the old wooden ties and place new concrete ties and clip the rail in place all at once with this amazing machinery.
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The concrete ties are about 1,000 pounds each compared to about 200 for wood ties. Amtrak says the concrete ties in this region are expected to last 60 years compared to 25 years for wood ties. This $122 million project is installing 113,000 concrete ties and cleaning/renewing 226,500 feet of gravel ballast on 43 miles of track between Lancaster and Harrisburg, Pa.
Thanks for the video. So the Amtrak really replaces the wooden sleepers with prestressed concrete sleepers. Fast conversion trains are common practice in Germany. After the conversion train, the track bedding cleaning machine would have to pass through to make the track really fit. Greetings from Berlin/ Germany. Sven
Greetings Sven
I've seen videos on trains in Europe. Far more advanced! I'm glad to see Amtrack working to improve. Greetings from Indiana.
@@bethweber9398 Greetings!
Those Germans are so brilliant !
@@timshel011 Plasser & Theurer all the way. Is from Austria btw.
Never had Any Idea that AMTRAK had this Type of Equipment. Definitely seen these in use by the Class I Railroads and/or their Associated Contractors. Thanks! 👍🙏
I presume this is for use where Amtrak actually owns the trackage, but I didn't think that they owned enough to justify the purchase of this type of expensive equipment.
Amtrak is doing this on the Pennsylvania Keystone line Harrisburg to Philly.. a 2 year project. The line is owned by Pa but maintained by Amtrak.
Amtrak was one of the first railroads in the United States to own this type of equipment. I remember watching this machine or its predecessor replace ties on Track 2 through Glenolden, PA on the Northeast Corridor main line approximately early- to mid-1980s. Class 1 freight railroads employ similar machines. [Prior to the advent of Amtrak, all American railroads were "common carriers". The term "freight railroad" did not come into use until after Amtrak relieved the common carriers of the requirement to provide passenger service.]
Thanks for the information Evan
As a retired Union Pacific work equipment mechanic I will say that machine set would be a mechanics Nightmare . Lots of electrical components that can get out of adjustment or screw up . Excellent video .
Similar sets are used here in Europe. They seem to fit in tight time frames, so they must be reliable. :-)
It seems to me (from watching this video now and having watched European ones in previous months or years) that there is a difference in work flow. As I remember it, in Europe sleepers get positioned on some "basic ballast bed" and then get additional ballast poured, whereas I noticed this set position the sleepers on a "thicker than basic ballast bed". - I noticed some comment identify this set as [forgot the name of the brand from Italy], whereas I have only seen sets by Plasser & Theurer (from Austria) or those operated by Swietelsky. These two firms have UA-cam channels. I have watched track-laying videos from Sweden and from Russia, so more channels may be suggested to you. ;-)
This is a Plasser & Theurer machine, Switelsky, also an Austrian company, also uses these railway construction machines.
@@chrislaarman7532 Thank you for the information
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@@thomasnovacek4686 In the U.S., the company name is Plasser American.
It's the rock! That's what we called it when I worked on the tie cars with the angle irons on the Harrisburg Line years ago
back in the 70s on new zealand railways when i was driving.all this was basically done by hand.technology has come a long way.
Somebody finally documented the project!!!
waited a long time to get this at an accessible area!
Nice …..The problem child on the system, was the discarded Wood tie’s, not sitting correctly going up the conveyor 😂😂
yeah, noticed it taking a lot of muscle and constantly stopping the operation to fix the wood ties on the conveyer
It's about time! In Europe, where they know how to do passenger rail transport, they've been using concrete sleepers for decades.
we're catching up in the U.S.!
On the other hand, the primary function of the general system of railroad transportation in the United States is to haul large volumes of freight, which it does well. I'm certainly in favor of expanded use of rail to transport people, but IMHO, Europe has been slow to catch up in the haulage of freight. My impression is that the percentage of freight hauled by train in Europe is a drop in the bucket compared to North America.
From what I’ve been able to gather, wooden ties can be more tolerant of bad conditions. There’s a line in the New York area (won’t say which one) that discovered concrete ties failed (literally ground to dust) due to the poor drainage of the property.
@@ClockworksOfGL Thank you for that information. It makes sense.
@@evanstauffer4470 The Netherlands has dedicated tracks for freight from Rotterdam's Maasvlakte 2 to Germany's Rührgebiet, the Betuwelijn. Build in the 90's cost 5 billion, transports 60 million tons a year. Indeed, just a drop.
This line is being used less every year. This is mainly caused by fewer imports. There is no need for more tracks or trains, the freight marked is completely saturated and privatized. Passenger services are always expanded, new cities are build (Almere, Lelystad) and connected. I guess we all use it as we need it.
Wow! Pretty impressive engineering on that thing!!
That's the craziest thing I've ever seen.
same thing I thought!
Very interesting video, thanks. Here in Cobb County, Georgia, CSX has so much traffic that they had to replace the concrete ties with wooden ones after a few years. As I understood it, the material between the rails and the concrete ties deteriorated quickly and had to be replaced more frequently than the amount of traffic permitted! They pulled the concrete and went back to wood! It was surprising to see!
Yup that’s the TLM alright, I worked with this gang a few times last year on the 1 Track side. This year I’m having fun in the undercutter
Very impressive and fascinating watching the work crews on this section of track
hope to catch the crew working in Lancaster County soon
@@danscoolvideos6024 please be careful filming - would be great to document this project. Obviously Im not allowed to film while working on the railroad. FYI - Trains are out of service from 8-1 m-thurs from Lnc to Har - traffic picks up after 42/43 go through
Remember working on the p811 back in 78 on CN in bc down in the fraser canyon not much money but good times
Have you seen the prefabricated switches that are carried on their sides? So cool!
I'll look for those next time
Have seen something similar out here in the West, SP laying new wood and concrete ties. what a machine. (north Oregon and Coastal range)
This equipment is so cool thanks fur the share
you are welcome!
Absolutely amazing 👍very sophisticated machinery.
Shame they can not get the bottom belt pick up better so the employees don't have to adjust the RR ties. Great video.
thank you
Badly needed from Hartford to Springfield!
Eventually. But I doubt it’ll ever be electrified. If Amtrak had its way, it would be all Northeast Corridor, all the time.
A train riding on top of a train! :)
thought the same watching it zipping back and forth
Plasser&Theurer, an Austrian Company is making such trains.
Amtrak jus had it painted green
Put their logo on.
So it makes people think, oh look what we can make in America-...
And until it is proven to me that it is otherwise,i will believe it is THAT
Wish there was a view of the finished project to take a peek at how it looked after
I'll get that eventually when both tracks are finished
Great video, well done Dan!
Thank you so much!
Very good
Wish they'd donate those wood ties to me!!!!
Watching this now let's you know how powerful the oil lobby is to keep us on highways and not on rails.
It looks like they got most of the bugs out.I worked on that machine back in the 80's
Now THAT is cool! Must cost about $500 per yard.
There isn’t a lot of manufacturers for these machines, i think its PLASSER & THEURER from AUSTRIA.
Not a Plasser machine? Seems it has some issues with the sleeper removal tranportation chain.
I see how they raise the tracks. do they also spread the tracks wider to drop the ties?
There is something going on with the tracks as the TLM goes by, maybe someone on the crew can answer.
I’m curious how this gadget works - don’t you have to lift the rails in order to put new ties under it?
That looks like the tracks between Chicago and South Bend, Indiana, looking at the overhead powerlines for the South Shore Commuter Trains. I wonder how long the concrete ties last compared to the wood ties.
The concrete ties are about 1,000 pounds each compared to about 200 for wood ties. Amtrak says the concrete ties are expected to last 60 years compared to 25 years for wood ties. This $122 million project is installing 113,000 concrete ties and cleaning/renewing 226,500 feet of gravel ballast on 43 miles of track between Lancaster and Harrisburg, Pa.
This is very interesting to watch.. and as this shows.. you cannot do this job without some manual labour.... So does the front part of this remove the spikes and plates or do they just get ripped up when the machine starts lifting the wooden ties? Thanks very much for this video. Cheers from Melbourne Australia..
Greetings from Pennsylvania! manual labor used to free those stuck wooden ties on the conveyer - can't imagine doing that on a hot and humid summer day
The spacing on the concrete ties seem pretty close together. I thought one of the advantages of concrete ties was that the spacing could be higher than wood ties.
There placed closer as the extra weight helps to keep the track in place when using long welded rail as it does not need as much looking after and is better for higher speeds and old timber ties flex and have to go into land fill
It’s absolutely amazing how few people are working on this machine compared to how many people are standing around watching doing nothing in this video. And we wonder why our rail projects are so expensive in this country
When was this? Was it on the keystone corridor on a weekday
On a weekday. I don't think they work weekends on this. Track between Harrisburg and Lancaster, specifically in Middletown, Pa. near Royalton
Interesting machinery, concrete better.surprised Amtrak has this equipment.
In my small city new tracks for a light rail commuter train were installed. The sleepers or ties are all concrete except about 100 feet on either side of a cross street. For some reason the sleepers are wood, no spikes but using updated rail attachments. I have no clue why this was done...any ideas?
Is this the project for the Keystone line?
What is a "sleeper"?
This is probably only for the high speed Amtrak in the NE corridor… a lot of Amtrak railroad is leased from companies like CRX which are freight oriented. Case in point is the AutoTrain route … so many places it slows down to 25 mph because of poor track conditions… rail in the us is a farce
Middletown where?
Middletown Pa. I captured that also.
Its clear the american crew are not use to using this sleeper replacement train
Looks like the president of Amtrak will have to allow vintage trains to ride with them once again to pay for all this modernization.
It's a Train riding a Train laying Tracks, Wut?
You’re tax dollars hard at work!
Compound material ture d sleep rs no resale value
Amtrack s big Bertha purchased with your tax p Ayer dollar
Absinthe 2 track workers, shouldn't have their hands or indeed any part of their body next to them gripped while the TMM is operating.
👍👍I'm giving you the "thumbs up" ahead-of-time (as opposed to concluding my comment) because this video is very important to me. Several years ago I lived beside the Long Island Rail Road's (mainline) Nassau Interlocking, I was only "steps away" from recording every possible angle and moment of the LIRR's extensive "Third Track Expansion" through this region. On a balmy September 2022 afternoon -- seemingly "out of nowhere" -- an "ancient" P-811 machine, that appeared to "go on forever", showed-up, along with numerous specialized flatcars loaded with concrete ties. In due time, this monstrous machine went to work, replacing the last vestige of wooden ties (through the interlocking) with concrete ones. This particular machine was "old school", rusty-and-crusty, with all kinds of "makeshift" modifications onboard, all of which were powered by loud, high-RPM diesel engines. Nonetheless, it got the job done, and was a "sight to behold". As with the machine in your video, all P-811's are manufactured by Harsco Rail, and -- for whatever reason -- on that September 2022 day on the LIRR, Harsco sent technicians and supervisors to the jobsite to "get things done". My videos and still photos tell a fascinating story of that entire event, as does your excellent video (on Amtrak). Excellent presentation...👌
That's a great story, thanks for sharing
might be even this one, just new paint as this technology is rather old. Somewhere I saw a 1977 on this unit.
They can get old, this units when regularly maintained.
Very impressive piece of machinery. Thank you for the great recording ❤
you are welcome, thanks for watching! Hard to believe it does all that in one pass
@@danscoolvideos6024I would like to know, where do you start when designing something like that? Front or back. Impressive either way! Good video!
@@Jyard Good point! awesome engineering
Wow Dan You did a fantastic job capturing this monster of MOW. That unit is awesome the way it works. You got the fine details on this video.A guy that is training people to run that told me that whole system is 1320 feet long.
thanks Mike, waited months to get this and got lucky that day with it being accessible for a brief time.
@@danscoolvideos6024 Well you got a better view on the side you were on. I got it back in October but I couldn't get close to it. The Units that work with it are nice. A drone would be great to use to record that to get the view of the whole lenght
@@danscoolvideos6024 A guy from Australia commented on my video I gave him your Channel name. Not sure if he watched yours or not. I told him yours was more in depth than mine. At 10:00 in the morning our time he was going to bed. I didn't think about what time it was there.
@@BeeLineEast I am the guy from Austraila and watching it today at 3pm on the 14th May 2024. Thank you very much to both of you. I have never seen anything like this here in Australia and it is intriguing to watch.
@@TimsBitsnPieces Thank you. You will enjoy Dan's video. He recorded 18 mins. of that incredible machine.If you get time Tim i posted two awesome train meets on my channel i think you would really enjoy them. Thanks
I remember seeing this when it was still Amtrak orange. They were doing the trackwork at Paoli it was cool! Glad to see it again! Great video!
Thank you!
Makes me wonder how good our railroads would be,
if we invested nationwide like our interstate highway systems.
Railroads are privately owned. Highways are 100x more useful for everyday life. I've never seen a railroad used for an ambulance to get to a hospital. Or deliver a loaf of bread to your local grocery store.
Our interstate highways don’t compare to the German Autobahn. It needs a lot of work done to it.
@@Travelingman1952…my uncle built highways in Wisconsin n commented that road bed depth in USA had so lil depth vs European road beds; as a consequence, USA spends small fortunes regularly repaving city streets, county roads n highways. I watched Milwaukee rebuild a half mile of city streets few yrs back n was shocked to discover no road bed underneath the old concrete! They ground up the old concrete n used that as its future road bed before repaving it w/new concrete n
the result was a much-improved n smoother riding section!
Not to be confused with AMTRAC mow which has nothing to do with AMTRAK. :)
What does this system do when it encounters a switch/turnout?
I , like many,would love to see it in person. A lot going on all at same time with precision, safety and precious little time to waste. Thank you.
Thanks for the comment William..it was amazing to see it in person-I had to keep reminding myself to stop staring in awe and keep filming
Am tracking
thats good, I guess, but haven't they been doing this in europe and elsewhere for 30 or 40 years?
Nice catch! I’ve never seen footage of a TLM in use on super elevated curves.
Thanks! It's my first time seeing a TLM
Is it that Amtrak ties are only for Amtrak and not freight? Nice closeups!
the track is shared with Norfolk Southern in many areas of this stretch of track
This equipment has been repainted and I suspect that Amtrak purchased it used.
it looks Chinese tbh I was thinking the same thing. some super geek Trevor must know about this whole machine and he is eating steak everynight being preserved from blm19
Where was this exactly.
In Middletown, Pa. near Royalton
will you be following this project as it works its way to Lancaster? Got locations ( bridges ) to get overview shots? is the second track still in limited service?
I will be attempting to catch up to it again at a location with good public viewing.....I got the answer to your question from a story on the work: .........Train service operates normally before 8 a.m. and after 4 p.m., but between those times no Keystone trains are operating on this stretch. Service runs at normal times all day Friday through Sunday. During lunchtime Monday through Thursday, the Pennsylvanian, which operates between Pittsburgh and New York City, goes through - one train in each direction.
While the work is being done, there’s one track out of service but the other track is being used to move the people doing the work. That track is cleared so the Pennsylvanian can run through during the lunch hour and the Keystone can resume normal service after 4 p.m. until the end of the day Monday through Thursday.
According to Amtrak, the portion of the work that affects trains on this line is expected to be completed by the end of November
The whole machine is suspended above the track and the rails are physically pulled to the side. Amazing!
I first thought it was a Plasser, but when I saw the generator and pump section, it was clear it is a Matisa. I'm more of a fan of the austrian equipment, but the italian stuff is fine too.
Europe does it better. We should take notes
Kudos to the company that invented that machine.
Replacing wooden rr ties with concrete ones wow.
Imagine the RR Union complaints of this thing taking away Union jobs? The amout of human effort this thing saves in incalculable.
First thought comes to mind with all this automation, what happens in our terrorist filled world, when they strike infrastructure like this, do railroads still have the skilled manual labor readily available to do this job?
Good machine, but training needs refining. There is a lot of chance of operator injury where those men are manhandling ties while they are moving.
Wondering how much the union was demanding for labor in the day to lay sleepers so that spending millions for this system made economic sense.
Pretty cool. I've seen a lot of videos from China using a similar technology. There seems to be a lot pauses on this one though.
It's WILD to think that some engineers came up with this entire system...
Picking up wooden ties and laying concrete ones upon which rails are placed?
2:27 😮 i won't reached inside,,
that conveyor is not forgiven
That horn when the train is gone move no way we can use it in The Netherlands
The content is a cut above the rest. Keep setting the bar high!
Thank you!
Great video. Would have like to see the ballast reinstatement too.
I would have liked to see that too
How do they offload the wooden ties and what do they do with them?
very, very cool! i've never seen or heard of one of these.
This is one impressive rigging
sure is
No high speed rail. What a wast. America down hill and getting lost.
Where on the NEC is this?
This is in Middletown, Pa, near Royalton
very interesting,,👍
Glad you enjoyed it....amazing to watch
Imagine doing that all day long, day after day!!! ?
How much track and ties can be laid in a day ? miles?
thanks
can build a machine to do anything, although, I wonder about safety? lot of operators, lots of steel parts moving via electronics.
didn't like the guys sticking their arms into the behemoth.
who controls the upper trolley moving the spikes? if done automatically, area of concern.
I'd like to see the safety record and see if there are injuries.
The gantries have an operator seated in them
Where is this?
Looks like Middletown pa
@@apr859 It is Middletown Pa.
Where is this taking place?
Middletown, Pa., near Royalton, moving toward Lancaster
@@danscoolvideos6024 Thanks
Does it bolt the rails to the ties as well?
yes it does, although I couldn't see that part of the process
Not screwed,special Elastic Rail Chip.See 7:11 bottom of Image.
@@he6403 Thanks for the response..you appear to be right. Next time I'll try to show that part of the process
Supper Nice,0:21😊
Whats the rear boxcar for at 7:18 ?
IMPRESSIVE!!!
a train...on a train...on a.....
Very nice video work....a great catch!
thank you!
AMAZING!
I agree