The producers took the wrong lessons from Angelina negotiating for the rice. The reason why it's iconic is because Angelina lacked the self awareness in thinking getting rice would help her win the game when it was just another example of Angelina's transparent game which everyone clocked and wouldn't vote for in the FTC.
Their friendship is really sweet. I genuinely love the post-merge of Cook Islands mostly for the really interesting social dynamics happening in and around that friendship.
One of my favorite aspects of Chris’ FTC performance is that right before FTC he told Twila he wasn’t gonna take shit from the jury and would stand his ground and that she should do the same. Eliza asked her question, to which Twila fought back and Chris IMMEDIATELY started ass kissing
I feel like Wendell’s speech before giving Laurel his immunity idol at the final five of Ghost Island should be an honourable mention given Laurel became the 11th member of the jury and cast the winning vote for him.
Such a shame Angelina low-balled her getting rice for the entire tribe. It could have got her some extra jury votes if she decided to bring it up at any round within the game.
Competing over who is first in the comments is like competing over who gets to vote first...it doesnt matter...Jeff is going to read the votes in the order he wishes LOL
Angelina's negotiating reminds me of a creed song 'myyyy sack-of-rice' *edit for context* There was somewhat successful song in early 2000s by Creed called 'My sacrifice' and it's funny bc Angelina thinks she sacrificed for the team to get the sack of rice.
A quick and probably forgotten moment: Carl saying “bing!” After idol nullifying Dan out. He tried to take credit for the blindside, which just made him a bigger target. I’m thinking dude save that piece of parchment and take credit at final 3, what are you doing
I wonder if Chris ever considered finishing his final tribal with a digestible rhyme. Something like “If the betrayal stings, don’t clip my wings” I don’t know, is still a relevant reference
I really hope she make final 3 so we can watch the jury rip her to shreds 😂😂😂 she will take credit for literally every single move of the season and think she’s Sandra plus Kim Spradlin plus Parvati
TBF Rick saw he had no adjency and knew it. So he did the only thing he could do. Be a true survivor.... with pazaz. Which is kinda genius, sadly it didn't quite work out. You walk the tight rope of failing one time and everyone gets rid of you cause you obviously have become a threat. So good on him for realizing he had only one route to victory, through sheer showmanship, confidence and immunities. Just his luck/skill ran out too early.
I honestly never considered Yule giving Penner his hat that bad of pandering. He just put it on his seat before the jury even came in. If Jeff hadn’t brought it up, Penner never would’ve known who gave him the hat
I don’t get why Angelina was so hated by the jury. She got rice for the entire tribe and was totally selfless about it afterwards as Davie stated. That’s all in addition to her underrated and understated move of climbing 100 feet up a ladder to get an idol and wholesomely giving “idols” to her enemies. I want a petition for Luke to add Angelina to the list of heroic people doing heroic things alongside Candice.
i think only heroes are eligible for that. which angelina wasn't. she might've done one heroic thing, but she only did it to score points with the jury. and it doesn't excuse how she played the majority of the game. if someone like russell did something heroic, would you call him a hero? no you wouldn't
@@IdoledOut This cool to have you comment on my comment! I don’t know if you’ve ever done this, but I do have an idea for a video the best finale tribal council performance that resulted in a loss! Have you ever made that video?
I literally finished watching Vanuatu today. I had no doubts that Chris is going to be number one. Still waiting for him to get an Oscar for this performance
Never thought about it before but do you thing Rick Devins level of flashiness helped that other guy win since he did such a good job of lowering the accomplishments of the other FTC finalists?
As over the top as Devens was with the pandering I do think the fact that he was stuck with the rest of the EOE folk for so long is what made him the fave despite his weak gameplay is what gave him the popularity. I mean Chris pops up for the last 4 days and wins based on that alone. Think it would have been super difficult for anyone not voted out to win that mess with such a large advantage the returnee has with the jury
Ok our negotiations professor at Yale was world class lol. He may be the first person you wanna vote off the island but he’s actually a pretty big deal around there
Speaking of Yul and Jonathan, the biggest reason he cut him at the final 7 was because Adam straight up told Yul that he would never vote for him to win if he didn't cut Jonathan that round. Lo and behold Yul did, and Adam gave Yul a decisive vote.
Angelina’s negotiation always makes me cringe so hard - not for the pandering, but for the fact that she offered SO much when she almost certainly could’ve just sat out from the challenge. Love her but that was sooo painful 😭
Huh, first time I heard about Angelina sacrificing so that the tribe would get rice. Shocking! What are you going to tell me next, that somebody voted out her mother at tribal?
Rick Devins not having agency in the game is more of a condemnation of everyone else's game around him just trying to get by with the modern Survivor strategy of voting people off who are good at things and hoping that they are the least worst choice at FTC.
There was this guy in the french survivor that won because he gave his reward (one Chocolate Pear) to everyone else to share... While the other finalist... stole them all 10 bananas 😂🍌 That's the french bananagate
Imagine if in Survivor 50, there's a final 3 with Venus, Courtney Yates, and Angelina. Courtney: Did you win immunity? Angelina: No, but I got our whole tribe rice. Courtney: Yeah, but now 'm 43 now and still winning immunity. Did you win immunity, though? Angelina: No, but I got us more rice than anyone was ever given before in the history of the show. Venus: Please, both of y'all ain't got nothing on me. I'm the one who made every big move made this season.
I really disagree with Devens and Yul as pandering. Devens was being funny and entertaining. As for Yul, I don't think giving Penner his hat back was to gain his vote although, as he stated it could have impacted that. Yul made deals with others to get their votes like voting out Penner to get Adam's vote. I view it as just good jury management. I guess what's considered pandering is subjective.
Wait did Angelina get them rice??? I don't remember that. That's like all of Cierra's blood vs. water game like she didn't get purpled but I can't remember anything iconic those two girls did.
Angelina's insistence on the rice is annoying because I think we've all known someone who does the tactic of "Doing something for you, so you'll repay them later. Instead of it coming off as a good action made for the tribe and everyone stomachs, she quickly showboats constantly. It's fine to remember it for final tribal, but to bring it up so much really shows it was for the sake getting a favour later, or she is just one of those people who seems think small things are big things and brags about it (Or to show off her 'top tier negotiation skills' that she got from a class) It also left a mark on the franchise leading to sacrificing your chance at immunity for rice. Glad to see nobody stood for it the recent season. maybe that will make the producers think twice.(Though admittedly Jeff stabbing the bag that one time was funny)
The producers took the wrong lessons from Angelina negotiating for the rice. The reason why it's iconic is because Angelina lacked the self awareness in thinking getting rice would help her win the game when it was just another example of Angelina's transparent game which everyone clocked and wouldn't vote for in the FTC.
Yes, cause now it every season! But I think after 46 they might get rid of it since nobody took it!
tbf as far as tweaks to the game go i think this is a pretty harmless one (not to mention it gave us jeff stabbing the rice bag)
The fact Yul and Penner are still friends 😢
Love them both
Their friendship is really sweet. I genuinely love the post-merge of Cook Islands mostly for the really interesting social dynamics happening in and around that friendship.
Yul coming back for WaW partly to raise awareness about Penner's wife's condition was incredibly sweet
How to pander to the youtube jury: adding "heroically" to whatever action candice is doing
Candice? From Raro tribe?
"Something that Candice even 'heroically' called him out on."
Every time, Luke. Every time.
I cannot help myself
@@IdoledOut I'd want it no other way.
Hahaha) 😂
One of my favorite aspects of Chris’ FTC performance is that right before FTC he told Twila he wasn’t gonna take shit from the jury and would stand his ground and that she should do the same. Eliza asked her question, to which Twila fought back and Chris IMMEDIATELY started ass kissing
Iconic move
A rare case of someone still playing the game on Day 39
"in a way she's right but she's still aggravating every step of the way" - Mike White on Angelina
Like Davie said to Angelina, the point of a selfless act is to be selfless!
Exactly
Wtf Spencer doin 💀💀
in case you forgot after watching this video, Angelina got rice for her entire tribe!
“Stroked harder than Spencer” and that clip might be the funniest thing I’ve seen in awhile lmao
What in the fuck is he actually DOING in that clip 😂😂
@@hommefataltaemin Lmaoo I’d assume shivering or something but w what he said it looks exactly like that 😂
I didn’t catch that part but went back after reading your comment and holy shit that was feral 😂
Todd’s answer to Jean-Robert has to be one of the best FTC answers in Survivor history
Yeah, you just have to know who you're talking to and Jean-Robert had the biggest ego of anyone, so he stroked it, that's all it took to get his vote.
So, Chris, and then four other people, right?
Yep, thank you. Respect the GOAT bullshit artist
I feel like Wendell’s speech before giving Laurel his immunity idol at the final five of Ghost Island should be an honourable mention given Laurel became the 11th member of the jury and cast the winning vote for him.
Such a shame Angelina low-balled her getting rice for the entire tribe. It could have got her some extra jury votes if she decided to bring it up at any round within the game.
I never thought of it this way, but describing the aitu 4 all as introverts feels very accurate
"stroked harder than Spencer in the Cambodian rain" LMAO I'M CRYING 5:29
RIP Sonya Christopher, first survivor voted on in this game. 😢
Competing over who is first in the comments is like competing over who gets to vote first...it doesnt matter...Jeff is going to read the votes in the order he wishes LOL
But we're trying to pander to the UA-cam commentary! I may not win FTC, but I'd at least be in 2nd place!
Angelina's negotiating reminds me of a creed song 'myyyy sack-of-rice'
*edit for context*
There was somewhat successful song in early 2000s by Creed called 'My sacrifice' and it's funny bc Angelina thinks she sacrificed for the team to get the sack of rice.
A quick and probably forgotten moment: Carl saying “bing!” After idol nullifying Dan out. He tried to take credit for the blindside, which just made him a bigger target. I’m thinking dude save that piece of parchment and take credit at final 3, what are you doing
I wonder if Chris ever considered finishing his final tribal with a digestible rhyme. Something like “If the betrayal stings, don’t clip my wings” I don’t know, is still a relevant reference
Jonathan: Me want hat back.
Yul: Jonathan Penner ask for hat back. Me bring hat back.
Everyone else: 😮 Yul! Strategic Mastermind!
Wow this is a great video, I love your approach to the game.
This may honestly be your funniest video yet 😂 your paraphrasing of Chris' jury speech was honestly pitch perfect
The only thing I wish you mentioned was Venus’s obv jury pandering to soda as she left
She did almost the same to Hunter last episode lol I loved it
@@lerdogHunter freaking hated that
I really hope she make final 3 so we can watch the jury rip her to shreds 😂😂😂 she will take credit for literally every single move of the season and think she’s Sandra plus Kim Spradlin plus Parvati
Chris perfectly mastered art of bs. Twila was already hated - but Chris nailed his speech anyway
Angelina used that rice for as much game as she could, but nobody care!
She also didn't have a jacket for most of the game
@@Lsaldana92 She was also freezing as well! This women with through so much in the game!
Such a shame to see a saint like Angelina go under appreciated
NOT Spencer gooning lmao
Sarah in winners at war talking about survivor and gender is the first thing that comes to mind
TBF Rick saw he had no adjency and knew it. So he did the only thing he could do. Be a true survivor.... with pazaz. Which is kinda genius, sadly it didn't quite work out. You walk the tight rope of failing one time and everyone gets rid of you cause you obviously have become a threat. So good on him for realizing he had only one route to victory, through sheer showmanship, confidence and immunities. Just his luck/skill ran out too early.
You use what you got... and as a local news anchor I'd have to imagine that he knows how to pander.
Yes please do more of the season!
I honestly never considered Yule giving Penner his hat that bad of pandering. He just put it on his seat before the jury even came in. If Jeff hadn’t brought it up, Penner never would’ve known who gave him the hat
I don’t get why Angelina was so hated by the jury. She got rice for the entire tribe and was totally selfless about it afterwards as Davie stated. That’s all in addition to her underrated and understated move of climbing 100 feet up a ladder to get an idol and wholesomely giving “idols” to her enemies. I want a petition for Luke to add Angelina to the list of heroic people doing heroic things alongside Candice.
i think only heroes are eligible for that. which angelina wasn't. she might've done one heroic thing, but she only did it to score points with the jury. and it doesn't excuse how she played the majority of the game. if someone like russell did something heroic, would you call him a hero? no you wouldn't
Sarah pretending to care about women’s right in WaW is pretty up there too
Yeah like not trying to be disrespectful but her and Ben were both Tony’s puppets all season
How do women not have rights?
Chris has the greatest finale tribal council performance of all time in my opinion!
Agreed!
@@IdoledOut This cool to have you comment on my comment! I don’t know if you’ve ever done this, but I do have an idea for a video the best finale tribal council performance that resulted in a loss! Have you ever made that video?
@@lastdayonearthmysteryman4849I am pretty sure peridiam made one a while back
@@lastdayonearthmysteryman4849yep he did, it's called "Top 20 Best Losing Final Tribal Council Performances in Survivor"
@@crazyinsanepenguin Okay!
I literally finished watching Vanuatu today. I had no doubts that Chris is going to be number one. Still waiting for him to get an Oscar for this performance
Great video as always 🙌
Angelina should have won just because she was the most entertaining player to make it far in years
The best thing about Angelina focusing on winning rice for the tribe:
She finally stopped asking Natalie for her jacket.
Lmao 7:12 Please never stop recognizing Candice's heroism 🫡
Yo that Spencer scene was outta pocket
TO BE FAIR, Angelina made the offer and they got the rice and didn’t lose anything
Todd + Jean Robert gets me every time lmao
Angelina is such a damn Karen when it comes to how she SACRIFICED her chance to win the game for RICE
Never thought about it before but do you thing Rick Devins level of flashiness helped that other guy win since he did such a good job of lowering the accomplishments of the other FTC finalists?
As over the top as Devens was with the pandering I do think the fact that he was stuck with the rest of the EOE folk for so long is what made him the fave despite his weak gameplay is what gave him the popularity. I mean Chris pops up for the last 4 days and wins based on that alone. Think it would have been super difficult for anyone not voted out to win that mess with such a large advantage the returnee has with the jury
Chris and Todd are the 1A and 1B of greatest FTC performance
Ok our negotiations professor at Yale was world class lol. He may be the first person you wanna vote off the island but he’s actually a pretty big deal around there
Speaking of Yul and Jonathan, the biggest reason he cut him at the final 7 was because Adam straight up told Yul that he would never vote for him to win if he didn't cut Jonathan that round. Lo and behold Yul did, and Adam gave Yul a decisive vote.
5:26 LMFAOOOO
I can't really blame Yul, he had it easy because he had the closest thing we've ever seen to a free ticket to FTC.
Candice, HeRoIcAlLy… you know, that’s the kind of joke that ages like sour milk
Angelina’s negotiation always makes me cringe so hard - not for the pandering, but for the fact that she offered SO much when she almost certainly could’ve just sat out from the challenge. Love her but that was sooo painful 😭
You post a video with Angelina, I like it. I'm a simple man.
Huh, first time I heard about Angelina sacrificing so that the tribe would get rice. Shocking! What are you going to tell me next, that somebody voted out her mother at tribal?
Legit Question - How did Angelina intend on cooking the rice, if she was going to give Jeff all of their cookware...?
6:12 facts 😂
amazinngng
7:25 you only looked at 3 players not 7
This meme has taken root so quickly and I'm down for it.
5:32
Rick Devins not having agency in the game is more of a condemnation of everyone else's game around him just trying to get by with the modern Survivor strategy of voting people off who are good at things and hoping that they are the least worst choice at FTC.
Rick has to be one of the most annoying players ever.
Colton, I feel people over-inflate how bad Rick actually was
Definitely in my top5
There was this guy in the french survivor that won because he gave his reward (one Chocolate Pear) to everyone else to share...
While the other finalist... stole them all 10 bananas 😂🍌
That's the french bananagate
Imagine if in Survivor 50, there's a final 3 with Venus, Courtney Yates, and Angelina.
Courtney: Did you win immunity?
Angelina: No, but I got our whole tribe rice.
Courtney: Yeah, but now 'm 43 now and still winning immunity. Did you win immunity, though?
Angelina: No, but I got us more rice than anyone was ever given before in the history of the show.
Venus: Please, both of y'all ain't got nothing on me. I'm the one who made every big move made this season.
I forgot about the Yul hat thing! I wonder if some of the jury were so put off by that they didn’t vote for him to win in the end.
Yul
Yul
Its so easy to dislike angelina
Albert was so hot 😊
Rick Devens 🤩🤩🤩🤩
I really disagree with Devens and Yul as pandering. Devens was being funny and entertaining.
As for Yul, I don't think giving Penner his hat back was to gain his vote although, as he stated it could have impacted that. Yul made deals with others to get their votes like voting out Penner to get Adam's vote. I view it as just good jury management. I guess what's considered pandering is subjective.
Idoled Out hates Rick Devens. Lol
Wait did Angelina get them rice??? I don't remember that. That's like all of Cierra's blood vs. water game like she didn't get purpled but I can't remember anything iconic those two girls did.
I'm offended by your anti fedora rhetoric.
I have never seen the spelling of a word butchered so badly
It’s rhetoric
@@calebjohnson9740 thank you for correcting me (even if it wasn't in good intent) I'm changing it right now.
Angelina's insistence on the rice is annoying because I think we've all known someone who does the tactic of "Doing something for you, so you'll repay them later. Instead of it coming off as a good action made for the tribe and everyone stomachs, she quickly showboats constantly. It's fine to remember it for final tribal, but to bring it up so much really shows it was for the sake getting a favour later, or she is just one of those people who seems think small things are big things and brags about it (Or to show off her 'top tier negotiation skills' that she got from a class)
It also left a mark on the franchise leading to sacrificing your chance at immunity for rice. Glad to see nobody stood for it the recent season. maybe that will make the producers think twice.(Though admittedly Jeff stabbing the bag that one time was funny)
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