Zack, one safety tip. do the straps up on the passenger side so that when you stop to check them you are not standing in traffic if you have just pulled off the road. Good video series, watch them all.
Well, Zack, I have two suggestions to your system: 1. Rather than the foam canoe blocks, use pool noodles. Slice them down the middle and slip them on the length of the gunnels. The foam canoe block system provides four narrow contact points and can (and will) slip off on to their side when you push your canoe to center it on the roof. The pool noodles have a lower profile so they don't have the tenancy to fall over when pushed, and they spread the contact points of the canoe over a much wider area, which gives better stability. They are less expensive and available everywhere. If it is off-season and you can't find pool noodles, you can use pipe insulation from the hardware store to do the same job. 2. Take a look at the profile of your set-up at 8:35. Look at the angle of the rope placement, especially the rear rope. The ropes are parallel and they shouldn't be. Imagine your car roof is recently waxed and slippery. Now, imagine slamming on the brakes at freeway speed. What does physics say will happen to your canoe? There is a possibility of it sliding forward and into the car ahead of you (ask me how I happen to know this). The solution is to attach a safety strap from the center thwart back to the rear quicki-hood loop. This will act as a brake to the foreword momentum in the case of an emergency stop. 2a. Zack, you may feel that the straps are tight enough to prevent the canoe from sliding forward because you tested this hypnosis by pushing and pulling on the canoe to ascertain that it was secure. This may be sufficient while it is sitting in your driveway but not at highway speeds. A 45-pound canoe traveling at 60 miles an hour will gain a lot of immediate momentum during a panic stop. That 45-pound canoe quickly gains the equivalent of up to triple that weight in a sudden stop. Force = Mass x Acceleration. 2b. Depending on the model, a rack can be attached to the car through the sheet metal of the roof. Most roof racks for small passenger cars warn against exceeding their weight recommendations and which are usually limited to 75 to 100 pounds. They are usually attached at only four points by short screws. As I stated in the previous point, a sudden stop with a loaded roof rack can quickly cause a situation where the load greatly exceeds the weight limits and can tear a roof rack off the car. Additionally, since a canoe greatly exceeds the dimensions of the roof rack, the inevitable rocking motion can weaken the attachment points. Canoes on small car roof racks are not recommended. 2c. Side straps can also interfere with side airbags. Not recommended. I sent you a more detailed message to your business. I hope you read it for the sake of your customer.
Worked like a charm for a four-hour trip, most at highway speeds. Thank you for the informative video! I used split lines front and rear and also put a twist in the straps as recommended. Now that we know we can do it, we’ll be going more often. Thanks again!
Super step-by-step (especially when one suddenly realizes the vehicle with roof racks is needed by another family member the night before the trip! 🤪). Thanks for sharing! Cheers!
I’ve done this for years and it works. I’ve added a pool noodle that goes across in addition to the blocks. Just makes it that much more cushioned onto the roof. I’ve had the blocks fail in high winds before
Just a safety tip: If your vehicle has-side curtain airbags that are located above the doors, most manufacturers will then caution against running any type of tie-down or straps through the cabin of the car as those straps then will interfere with the airbags should they need to be deployed during a crash.
How long are the Cam Straps NRS and how wide? Will do this this weekend, if I can find suitable cam straps and Quickie Hood Loops. We have a trailer hitch for the back, thankfully. Thank you for you detailed instructions.
Will the flip in the strap prevent that terrible vibration noise up to highway speeds? I know it does with a roof rack, but im talking about this specific method.
LOVE the advice in the video, regarding the efficacy of those cam straps, esp. with the protective rubberized shield. Tried ordering directly from your web site but unable to do so because checkout screen says 'No Shipping Method Found For This Country'... Really? You don't ship to the United States??
We're happy you found the advice useful. Unfortunately, at this moment we don't normally ship to the U.S. We are considering this for when our operations expand and we're capable of serving that market.
I have a question . I have a kayak that can hold three people. I have a Honda civic sedan. I tried to put it over my civic but the kayak is denting my roof. Is there a way to prevent that ? I know the kayak is too heavy but maybe there’s something online that can
While I don't disagree, roof racks are a MUST on my vehicles, good ones are not cheap, and cheap ones will often cause damage or scratching. If you are just renting a canoe for the weekend, drive a beater, or just don't give a damn, this method works totally fine and we have strapped up a LOT of canoes using this method with no damage to the canoe or vehicle.
Roof racks decrease fuel economy. Why would I choose year-round fuel deficiency so I can strap my canoe to the roof of my car for maybe a dozen times throughout the summer ?
As an avid canoeist who has done this for the last 7 years doing a minimum of 20 trips a year I can say both cars did not have a lick of damage. if you do it right, it causes no damage and saves a lot of money. If you care so much about your vehicle you're probably not the type to be concerned about a few hundred bucks for a roof rack, but for a lot of people driving cheap cars it makes little sense to buy a roof rack if you are only using it for a canoe. And then you have to take that whole system off or sacrifice fuel economy.
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Zack, one safety tip. do the straps up on the passenger side so that when you stop to check them you are not standing in traffic if you have just pulled off the road. Good video series, watch them all.
Very great point, and something that we normally practice.
Well, Zack, I have two suggestions to your system:
1. Rather than the foam canoe blocks, use pool noodles. Slice them down the middle and slip them on the length of the gunnels. The foam canoe block system provides four narrow contact points and can (and will) slip off on to their side when you push your canoe to center it on the roof. The pool noodles have a lower profile so they don't have the tenancy to fall over when pushed, and they spread the contact points of the canoe over a much wider area, which gives better stability. They are less expensive and available everywhere. If it is off-season and you can't find pool noodles, you can use pipe insulation from the hardware store to do the same job.
2. Take a look at the profile of your set-up at 8:35. Look at the angle of the rope placement, especially the rear rope. The ropes are parallel and they shouldn't be. Imagine your car roof is recently waxed and slippery. Now, imagine slamming on the brakes at freeway speed. What does physics say will happen to your canoe? There is a possibility of it sliding forward and into the car ahead of you (ask me how I happen to know this). The solution is to attach a safety strap from the center thwart back to the rear quicki-hood loop. This will act as a brake to the foreword momentum in the case of an emergency stop.
2a. Zack, you may feel that the straps are tight enough to prevent the canoe from sliding forward because you tested this hypnosis by pushing and pulling on the canoe to ascertain that it was secure. This may be sufficient while it is sitting in your driveway but not at highway speeds. A 45-pound canoe traveling at 60 miles an hour will gain a lot of immediate momentum during a panic stop. That 45-pound canoe quickly gains the equivalent of up to triple that weight in a sudden stop. Force = Mass x Acceleration.
2b. Depending on the model, a rack can be attached to the car through the sheet metal of the roof. Most roof racks for small passenger cars warn against exceeding their weight recommendations and which are usually limited to 75 to 100 pounds. They are usually attached at only four points by short screws. As I stated in the previous point, a sudden stop with a loaded roof rack can quickly cause a situation where the load greatly exceeds the weight limits and can tear a roof rack off the car. Additionally, since a canoe greatly exceeds the dimensions of the roof rack, the inevitable rocking motion can weaken the attachment points. Canoes on small car roof racks are not recommended.
2c. Side straps can also interfere with side airbags. Not recommended.
I sent you a more detailed message to your business. I hope you read it for the sake of your customer.
Never thought about twisting the strap to avoid that wind noise nice 👍🏼
Worked like a charm for a four-hour trip, most at highway speeds. Thank you for the informative video! I used split lines front and rear and also put a twist in the straps as recommended. Now that we know we can do it, we’ll be going more often. Thanks again!
I’m hard at hearing did he say where he got them straps. Or where did you find your. Have a great weekend
Super step-by-step (especially when one suddenly realizes the vehicle with roof racks is needed by another family member the night before the trip! 🤪). Thanks for sharing! Cheers!
Happy we could help you when you were in a pinch!
I’ve done this for years and it works. I’ve added a pool noodle that goes across in addition to the blocks. Just makes it that much more cushioned onto the roof. I’ve had the blocks fail
in high winds before
This is my exact scenario and the Pelican foam block carrier kit we bought had zero instructions with it! Thank you for filling in the blanks!
One of the best and most thorough videos I’ve seen. Thank you
Glad it was helpful!
Just a safety tip: If your vehicle has-side curtain airbags that are located above the doors, most manufacturers will then caution against running any type of tie-down or straps through the cabin of the car as those straps then will interfere with the airbags should they need to be deployed during a crash.
How long are the Cam Straps NRS and how wide? Will do this this weekend, if I can find suitable cam straps and Quickie Hood Loops. We have a trailer hitch for the back, thankfully. Thank you for you detailed instructions.
Generally a minimum of 12' is what you want for loading this way. 15 or twenty would be fine to, just more excess to tie up.
Its funny when he says if you don't want backling on the roof buy roof racks 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Will the flip in the strap prevent that terrible vibration noise up to highway speeds? I know it does with a roof rack, but im talking about this specific method.
Thank you so much!
Strapping down 1200 grit sandpaper to the roof.
Ok.
Got it.
LOVE the advice in the video, regarding the efficacy of those cam straps, esp. with the protective rubberized shield. Tried ordering directly from your web site but unable to do so because checkout screen says 'No Shipping Method Found For This Country'... Really? You don't ship to the United States??
We're happy you found the advice useful. Unfortunately, at this moment we don't normally ship to the U.S. We are considering this for when our operations expand and we're capable of serving that market.
I've always wondered about this... thanks
No problem. We're happy to help!
Do you have a video, about how to tie down a kayak?
I have a question . I have a kayak that can hold three people. I have a Honda civic sedan. I tried to put it over my civic but the kayak is denting my roof. Is there a way to prevent that ? I know the kayak is too heavy but maybe there’s something online that can
Here in canada i believe it is law to have bow and stern tie downs and body of canoe is optional
Where do you get the quicky hood loop, and the camp straps? We have an old Focus and one last BWCA trip with our grandsons to prepare for.
How long is the canoe?
How do you keep the straps from damaging your weather strip and your door leaking If you hit heavy rain
Buy a roof rack
What if your fiberglass canoe only has decks and no carry handle?
Can I do this with a 4metre sailing diggy?
Would this work with a heavier aluminum canoe?
Yep! We would likely use the 3 tie downs at minimum (two body straps and one on the bow) - regardless of the distance.
Please tell me how strap barbie hot wheels camper without crossbars
Hmm... I might be able to do that.
@@FrontenacOutfitters I need to asap I need transport it,
That canoe isn't going anywhere!
I find when it rains I am getting water in the car where the straps are. What am I doing wrong?
I have the same problem.
It's a normal problem. The rain soaks the straps and ot leaks through.
Can panoramic roofs cause issues?
We need an answer 😂
I was going to ask the same question
People should properly prepare themselves and get proper roof racks this is Mickey Mouse and why would you risk damaging cars roof interior
While I don't disagree, roof racks are a MUST on my vehicles, good ones are not cheap, and cheap ones will often cause damage or scratching. If you are just renting a canoe for the weekend, drive a beater, or just don't give a damn, this method works totally fine and we have strapped up a LOT of canoes using this method with no damage to the canoe or vehicle.
Roof racks decrease fuel economy. Why would I choose year-round fuel deficiency so I can strap my canoe to the roof of my car for maybe a dozen times throughout the summer ?
As an avid canoeist who has done this for the last 7 years doing a minimum of 20 trips a year I can say both cars did not have a lick of damage. if you do it right, it causes no damage and saves a lot of money. If you care so much about your vehicle you're probably not the type to be concerned about a few hundred bucks for a roof rack, but for a lot of people driving cheap cars it makes little sense to buy a roof rack if you are only using it for a canoe. And then you have to take that whole system off or sacrifice fuel economy.