@@GetOffset highly highly recommend trying out a squier contemporary tele - i just modded mine, threw twisted tele pups and a pickguard on it for about the cost of this guitar (edit: also replaced the pots and switch while I was in there, also adding context seeing the price they are new, I bought mine used for ~$350)
@@AngelikaHasch60 Yeah, the only difference between C necks is the finish. I have a squier, mexican and japanese strat. All exactly the same neck. The frets will have sharp edges on the cheaper stuff but they are also the same medium frets, probably the same supplier. Expensive necks are compound radius with flammed mapple which they use in the american line.
Hopefully they'll add the neck to their parts catalogue. What I'm getting ftom this, is the neck would make a good base for a modding platform. The rest is disposable.
These seem like good guitars, and absolutely usable in professional situations and gig-able. I’d buy this over a Squier. For me, I actually found a bigger leap between the Player Series and Player Series II. I think the Player Series II are just as good as the USA-Made Fenders that I’ve owned.
Hi Emily. Thanks for noticing my appearance. I got extra-special dolled-up to watch the UA-cam today. Also, it's nice you got the white one with the darker wood neck. Pau Ferro? Laurel? I guess I will watch and find out. You made it sound nicer than other videos I've seen. Even the clean sounds have a little grit in them on certain pickups. I just don't like ceramic pickups in single coils. The 1986 Hot Rails I had was ceramic, but it sounded good.
I’ve never seen so many nay naysayers about the introduction of a guitar in my lifetime. It’s a guitar for Pete’s sake. The price is competitive and any great player would make this thing sound great.
I want one. All its specs point to me that it’ll be a great tool and a configurable guitar to play, the neck has been complemented by a couple of reputable reviews as a great shape and feel and I don’t mind it being ceramic pickups and a poplar body, I just really think it’s a good model worth taking a chance at.
You'll be paying about +150 for a decal, fender were pumping out alder bodied squires at certain periods, most notably between 95 and 98... And rosewood fretboards. If they could do that with their ULTRA budget range back then?... Well, I understand times have changed, but it actually feels like you're paying for branding. It should have been released as a squire elite or something, but they couldn't have justified the price, so they had to stick a fender logo on it. Old used mexicans are cheaper and will hold their value better than these
@ I hear you, I do but I don’t see it as that ; not one bit. The wood being Poplar isn’t going to change a thing for me, the pickups being ceramic is also what the MIM models had…again it isn’t going to deter its abilities on being a good instrument, what matters is if it works. The neck is what sold me. The price being “arguable” is something worth looking at. Me and You are both looking at this at angles that bring up a discussion worth having so that’s cool. If an Olympic White Standard Tele is at my nearest store I will be walking out with it or Sweetwater can be of help with said purchase.
@@chavito305If you live in the US theres absolutely no reason to buy this. You should be even considering saving and buying an used american fender if you already have a guitar, if its your first guitar go with the cheapest squier
@@zaxmaxlax welp, it’s not my first and I’m not buying one tomorrow, it’s a great choice to consider. The specs caught my attention and it’s up there in consideration. would I go out of my way for a used American Tele? Yeah and most likely if I find one I’ll buy it but you’re missing my point on this. I find this model and its specs to be inviting and worth checking out, it’s a guitar I wouldn’t have an issue owning and lending to a friend or family member because of its inexpensive traits. I wouldnt do that with my Burny or AVRI Jag..but I wouldn’t flinch at the thought of it being used as such. It’s a tool, a good one and definitely worth checking out. Just my 2 cents.
Great sound! I have a Tele myself, and you're right - they're not for everybody. I'm mostly a rock player and it takes some tweaking to find that right sound. Ask Zak has some great videos about this. My biggest hangup with mine is finding the right pickup height for the bridge. I mess with that all the time, to the point where my wife yells at me about it lol.
Hot Take: This is to move assets to Indonesia to EVENTUALLY replace the Mexican factory for political climate reasons (tariffs) and to eventually stop production on the Players and possibly switch the factories over from the Squier stuff so people eventually will just buy the higher end product. Maybe...maybe not.
According to a Fender rep, I saw on a NAMM video, these guitars have been in the works for two years. I think you're onto something about shifting factories around, but my theory is that soon, most if not all Squiers will be Chinese made.
This one sounds surprisingly better than the Strat, this sounds like a Tele. The new Standard Strats sound harsh and overly glassy from the videos I’ve watched, great review
I don't agree. The neck is fender through and through. Other than the bent switch, which I was going to replace anyway, the build quality is indeed better than I've seen on Squiers.
At last someone making the comparison to the affinity not classic vibe. Very sensible. Vintera series is probably the correct comparison to CV. Having played these they are a build upgrade to the squiers. The pickups are pretty weak. I like the affinity pickups more, particularly with gain. But this has full size body, decent pots and I like the brushed saddles and the neck is fantastic. I agree the player ii is a better buy but costs more. If you are happy to swap the pickups and perhaps the switch, then this is a really good guitar. Great, sensible review. Thank you.
I would like to see if these drop in price in the used market. It sounds from all the videos that the necks are great. If I could get one of these for under $400, then it would be great to just keep the neck and body and replace everything else, and maybe change some stuff based on the pickup routing.
If it was labeled squier Pro, it wouldn't be a huge backlash. Although it would need to be like 80 or more cheaper. The fender label on this just feels like an omega cash grab by fender. Opinions are subjective however and mine tend to change over time.
Hmmm, I don't know about Squier Pro, but it's an interesting idea. Seems to be a lot of folks think it's priced $50-$100 too high, which is understandable. I'm not sure I agree.
@@GetOffset They tried Squier Pro in the late '90s. They were priced similarly to the MIM Standards and cannibalized their sales, so they were discontinued.
Yeh I agree totally, at some point you have to say what is a fender?, for me once you start deviating from the original woods, then that's one point against it... If far far cheaper copies can use alder then fender should be doing that. It's like in England we have Dr Martens shoes that are now made in China out of inferior materials, to me they are NOT Dr Martens... This is just a rebadged squire.
@GetOffset I meant the price being 80 cheaper if it was presented as a squier pro. A new fender being 600 is not too much to ask i dont think. I don't feel like this model should have been presented as a fender though. This is based on my idea that It might sell better initially because of branding and have mid sales later and be easy for dealers to sale to newbies. On the flip side, I feel a squier pro same specs would have had a hype train in the community vs a hate train that could have sustained the line with above average sales for years. I mean Alternatively a person could buy this fender find out they like a mim or Mia way better and make multiple purchases in the line instead of being stuck in a squier is good enough for me mindset i think people have pride in. No matter how you view the way this guitar should have been branded. I think everyone agrees that dividing consumers in a niche space is never a great thing and is really annoying no matter if you like it or hate it. Lol
The reasonable reviews seem fairly positive. They feel a bit overpriced, but I've heard enough positive I'm eager to try one. Especially about the necks. If the ceramic pickups are as good as the old Mexican standard, I'll honestly be surprised if I don't like them just as much as the Alnico at the same level 😂. I've always thought ceramic has its merits. ❤
@Wilco1972 I've watched several reviews so far and while you can argue Alnico sounds better for one reason or another...in isolation the ceramic don't sound bad at all. If one let's go of bias for a moment they might even like the ceramic more for certain things...
It's a full size body but it doesn't need to be modified check them out for yourself. I think I'm going to order one of there Stratocarters they have a 12 inch radius neck. I have a newer 50s America made Telecaster probably the best guitar I've ever guitar I've ever played. I've been playing 55 years. I'm gust an old man still chasing tone. Keep on rocking
15:40 because they’re pricier than they used to be, I think. Fender made a decidedly upmarket push with its name brand in the past ~10 or so years, leaving Squier to really fill in the
Yeah, for $800 I'd prefer to not change anything major. I think I've only swapped pickups on any of my Fenders, and those were either oddballs or were already modded when I got them.
Right before the end of the year Fender had blow out sales on the Squier Contemporary Strats. I got one for 270ish and figured I'd use it as a modding platform because I love the metallic sky burst blue color. Honestly though, only thing it needs is shorter saddle screws, because once I set the neck and action the bridge unfortunately became a cheese grater on my hand. The pickups and electronics are perfectly fine. I just can't see stepping up to this Standard series, I just don't see the value, I'd definitely go G&L or Sire at the price point or just get a slightly used or dinged Player 2. The Squier line is damn good is all I know, I think price and feature creep is probably more warranted with that lineup than with proper Fenders. I know people have cried havoc about Epiphone prices but they have damn good guitars for the money that arent the pricey signatures. Personally (selfishly), I would prefer to see a tier up Squier, especially with the contemporary stuff but that's risky, that's sadly way less in demand than the same ol', same ol', which is still what people want. Folks upset at the value proposition, I totally understand that and agree but folks blaming Fender's greed.. hey they make what their customers want and they're going to keep trying to make it for as cheap as possible to save costs. If you want them to change, buy the competition. I have a feeling these are going to sell well.
Just buy one of the numerous used MIMs for maybe even less, with better specs. The multi piece poplar body, Laurel board or the Affinity style maple with a glued on satin board makes it a piss take IMO. No more than a re branded Affinity. As its made in the far East, they should be able to make the Player 2 for this price....
@@frankzappa951there’s nothing wrong with poplar bodies or ceramic pickups. Stop smoking the guitar snobbery crack pipe! I hand build guitars with poplar bodies and ceramic pickups that sell for four times this.
Fender is in a tough spot at this price point no matter what. Either they make Squier more expensive, or they do this - it was always going to be a tough sell. Other brands' Indonesian made models that I've owned have been perfectly cromulent, I'm expecting this to be about the same.
i dont think this line will be around much longer if they cant lower the price by $100 or maybe include a soft case or something. as they sit right now, and they have to do compete with PRS se, or any other Chinese guitars that are selling a lot better quality of guitar for 600 dollars
It’s a beautiful guitar and your playing is excellent. I can’t hear the difference between those pickups and every other Telecaster I’ve played. It sounds like a Telecaster to me! So it’s not going to make a difference for a couch guitarist like myself.
Fenders should be made by fender. None of this fender licensed to make in a cheaper factory with cheaper parts, by fender. They just used squier made parts for it. Its where the outcries lie. If fender made these in mexico, I would have no issues with it, as long as its is genuine fender parts. Fender loves to brand themselves as genuine, and these Indonesian fenders aren't genuine in any way. They should have just called it a squier standard instead. I would be totally fine with that that. Because it seems like the inflated pricetag is mostly reflective of its headstock logo, even then it looks lowend. Lando gets the nice comments because he's not going to take it serious, because you know he has a hard time even defending fender with this one.
I think it sounds and looks fine but it may be too much money for what your getting . If the tarriffs go through that may be the only one I can afford. It seems like this may be a more lateral move from a CV squier tele😊
Complete cash grab from Fender, disappointed in these guitars, I don’t care that they are made in Indonesia, just put some soul into them, and give your customers quality for $599. These guitars if I had to guess cost fender about $65 to build so where is all that overhead going, you guessed it, in there pockets. Do yourself a favor research what is out there for that money. You can easily grab a Fender player or player 2 that’s basically brand new on reverb for $600 all day long. Take care.
@ I have a buddy that works for one of the big guitar companies over seas. Trust me you really don’t want to know. But a big part of it is the sheer volume of guitars coming from these factories. It’s a serious rabbit hole, but yeah they are totally produced sub $100 dollars.
Customer pays for a lot Raw materials Production Packaging Shipping and duties overseas Shipping and duties in country Dealer markup Fenders profit Taxes on all over head costs It’s crazy 🤪
UA-cam infomercial makers are now facing some backlash from the guitar general public about these guitars for the simple reason that they are a poor value and have underwhelming at best features for the price UA-cam influencers/infomercial makers are now going to have to face the reality that the bulk of their audience is in the situation of prices on everything continue to go up yet wages have remained stagnant or have gone down- this isnt something that can be ignored anymore Everyone knows for $600 USD you can get an excellent used Fender with better features that is better made, or you can get a new guitar from many makers that has dramatically better features and is made better In Canada these Standards are $839 which is *absurd*-$964 all in Paying $964 CAD for this is a complete and total waste of money and you’d feel like a fool
@ I don’t know if you *personally* are, but people on various guitar forums etc are pointing out the revealing and obvious difference in opinion from many in the public who view the Standard as a cynical corporate move by Fender- a cheaply made guitar with zero exciting features for $600 USD and the UA-cam infomercial channels who simply don’t point this reality out as a strong negative It is becoming increasingly more difficult for the public to ‘trust’ (lol) guitar UA-cam channels when they gloss over what the public sees as a significant con to the guitar- overpriced and underwhelming guitar with the fender logo. In the other hand people are doing their channels for money and that’s perfectly fine! But I think it’s obvious there is a significant barrier for someone who gets free gear or gear to review and return to say “yeah…Fender isn’t offering you anything at all worthwhile in this Standard model for $600 other than the sticker. It is a very bad value” We see this divide between the public and UA-camrs with numerous models- the Jaguar models with eliminated features (so ‘modern’! lol), Epiphones models raising prices etc etc
I don't know why every guitar has to be exciting to every person. This is a budget guitar with a very good neck. I say in the video its audiences are younger guitarists who really want a Fender, and people who were maybe looking at a more expensive guitar but already know they're going to mod the shit out of it.
@@GetOffset perhaps ‘exciting’ isn’t the best word. It is a bad value guitar- the public knows it. Does a four-piece body make any difference to the sound? Of course not. Do the ceramic pickups sound good? It’s subjective but sure they are fine. Those things and other things are done because they are *cheaper* for Fender to do. It doesn’t have the perception of quality and instead gives off the impression of some late-stage capitalism of taking advantage of your market based on the strength of your name brand.
@@Lomoholga2 I agree 100%. I have a Classic Vibe Tele that sounds and feels better in every significant way than my two Fender Players. I know that each guitar is unique, but generally speaking, it seems silly to buy the Fender Standard UNLESS money is no object.
Guitarists are dumb. Sorry, but it’s true. These are made in the same Cor-Tek factory as a lot of other guitars. It’s a $600 guitar. People routinely buy Squiers and put Fender logos on them. They only care about the name. US made Fenders are not automatically better. The tuners are either Ping or Gotoh. Poplar is a great wood for bodies. Multiple pieces don’t matter. I’m a pickup maker and alnico magnets aren’t automatically better. Everyone seems to love gold foils these days, a those are ceramic magnets.
But in the end... 2 words to say.... Harley Benton. The sum of this story is, East asia got there shit together with guitar building. Heritage brands are focusing on catering to the rich, and paying and fortune for a playable guitar is for all intense, and purposes... Obsolete... In the end, people hear with their ears. Headstock logos don't matter if you sound good. Practice makes perfect. Gear makes broke.
3 to 4 pieces of wood for the body, poplar instead of alder, Indian laurel instead of rosewood, ceramic pickups instead of alnico, and on the teles for some reason, it’s a pcb switch? I don’t care if it said Fender or Squier, $600 is too much for that quality of guitar. Also at that price point, I shouldn’t have to mod my guitar to make it sound decent.
I mean, Christopher doesn't see the value, and that's cool. Other people probably will. I don't see where the issue is. I understand that some people don't think the guitar is worth the increase in the price, and I address that in the video. Whether you think a better neck and better hardware/QC is worth the money is up to you as the buyer. Speak with your wallet.
@@GetOffset Haha, very diplomatic response! I was just being snarky, I personally dont see much value here at this price point, but as always I appreciate your content and takes!
The only losers are the haters. There are a lot of younger players that feel that they need the right brand name on the headstock. And that is okay. If Fender doesn’t make a move like this, they will loose out to other brands. And Indonesian factories have shown they know how to make a guitar.
these are aimed at those that want Fender on the headstock but have a Squire budget. And they are stupid enough to pay double for Fender to just put a Fender decal on a Squire.
It sounds a lot like a "guitar" being played through an "amp". Ceramic is bad, so very bad. It's for losers. These will sell like hotcakes overseas. Mod platform, code for the pickups are an affront to God and man.
Hah! I think these will sell pretty well all over. Gotta disagree with you on the ceramic pickups! I know I call them "fine," but they're better than I expected them to sound.
Ceramic pickups sound fine and way better distorted than alnico pickups. Even my $2k Schecter has a ceramic pickup and it's the best sounding guitar I've ever heard. They get a bad rep, because cheap guitars usually have $1 ceramic pickups in them.
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I heard my name! I'm here to see the crazy comments that I guarantee you will see soon!
I'll let you know once they find this video.
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@@loudsalt not for the next 30 days!
@@landonbaileyI think this color looked better then the one you reviewed😊
That guitar is for suckers
It's been pretty interesting watching everybody's reponse to this new line from Squi..... I mean Fender ;)
Yeah, it's pretty divisive.
The Standard is for people who simply want it to say "Fender" on the headstock.
A $600 mod platform is crazy considering the offerings with much better qualities from other brands...
I haven't played a single guitar that costs less than this one that has a better neck.
@@GetOffset highly highly recommend trying out a squier contemporary tele - i just modded mine, threw twisted tele pups and a pickguard on it for about the cost of this guitar (edit: also replaced the pots and switch while I was in there, also adding context seeing the price they are new, I bought mine used for ~$350)
@@GetOffset they,re all the same C modern profile machine made necks, even the 100 bucks squiers
@@zaxmaxlax yes exactly. what a shill video. i mean... it says 'paid promotion' right there on screen. this is just an ad
@@AngelikaHasch60 Yeah, the only difference between C necks is the finish. I have a squier, mexican and japanese strat. All exactly the same neck. The frets will have sharp edges on the cheaper stuff but they are also the same medium frets, probably the same supplier. Expensive necks are compound radius with flammed mapple which they use in the american line.
Jazz chords to chicken pickin' to Pete and Pete. Fucking range. 💜
I feel so seen
Playing was on point! Really enjoyed the cleans on this thing! Thanks for sharing!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thanks for mentioning the measurements. I was just listening to 60 Cycle Hum and they weren't sure if other Fender parts would fit.
I was specifically told that other fender parts will be easier swaps, which includes aftermarket options.
Thanks for the info on these guitars, nice to hear some sounds samples too!
Thanks for watching!
I think it's cool that Fender is filling that price point. So many things just go up, it's nice when decisions are made to fill in the gaps. 😊
I think it's always good to have options!
$600 for a "beginner guitar" is steep considering you can get a Squier branded guitar with similar specs for less than half.
Gibson and now Fender have lost the plot on what Epiphone and Squire were supposed to be
Your riff had me singing Hey Sandy - the theme song to Pete and Pete
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Hopefully they'll add the neck to their parts catalogue. What I'm getting ftom this, is the neck would make a good base for a modding platform. The rest is disposable.
I think the pickups and electronics are disposable, if you don't like them, but I think the hardware is fine to keep.
These seem like good guitars, and absolutely usable in professional situations and gig-able.
I’d buy this over a Squier.
For me, I actually found a bigger leap between the Player Series and Player Series II.
I think the Player Series II are just as good as the USA-Made Fenders that I’ve owned.
Hi Emily. Thanks for noticing my appearance. I got extra-special dolled-up to watch the UA-cam today. Also, it's nice you got the white one with the darker wood neck. Pau Ferro? Laurel? I guess I will watch and find out. You made it sound nicer than other videos I've seen. Even the clean sounds have a little grit in them on certain pickups. I just don't like ceramic pickups in single coils. The 1986 Hot Rails I had was ceramic, but it sounded good.
I’ve never seen so many nay naysayers about the introduction of a guitar in my lifetime. It’s a guitar for Pete’s sake. The price is competitive and any great player would make this thing sound great.
I want one. All its specs point to me that it’ll be a great tool and a configurable guitar to play, the neck has been complemented by a couple of reputable reviews as a great shape and feel and I don’t mind it being ceramic pickups and a poplar body, I just really think it’s a good model worth taking a chance at.
You'll be paying about +150 for a decal, fender were pumping out alder bodied squires at certain periods, most notably between 95 and 98... And rosewood fretboards. If they could do that with their ULTRA budget range back then?... Well, I understand times have changed, but it actually feels like you're paying for branding. It should have been released as a squire elite or something, but they couldn't have justified the price, so they had to stick a fender logo on it. Old used mexicans are cheaper and will hold their value better than these
@ I hear you, I do but I don’t see it as that ; not one bit. The wood being Poplar isn’t going to change a thing for me, the pickups being ceramic is also what the MIM models had…again it isn’t going to deter its abilities on being a good instrument, what matters is if it works. The neck is what sold me. The price being “arguable” is something worth looking at. Me and You are both looking at this at angles that bring up a discussion worth having so that’s cool. If an Olympic White Standard Tele is at my nearest store I will be walking out with it or Sweetwater can be of help with said purchase.
@@chavito305If you absolutely need a "fender" headstock look for a mexican strat/tele, if you dont care get a squier classic vibe
@@chavito305If you live in the US theres absolutely no reason to buy this. You should be even considering saving and buying an used american fender if you already have a guitar, if its your first guitar go with the cheapest squier
@@zaxmaxlax welp, it’s not my first and I’m not buying one tomorrow, it’s a great choice to consider. The specs caught my attention and it’s up there in consideration. would I go out of my way for a used American Tele? Yeah and most likely if I find one I’ll buy it but you’re missing my point on this. I find this model and its specs to be inviting and worth checking out, it’s a guitar I wouldn’t have an issue owning and lending to a friend or family member because of its inexpensive traits. I wouldnt do that with my Burny or AVRI Jag..but I wouldn’t flinch at the thought of it being used as such. It’s a tool, a good one and definitely worth checking out. Just my 2 cents.
Great sound! I have a Tele myself, and you're right - they're not for everybody. I'm mostly a rock player and it takes some tweaking to find that right sound. Ask Zak has some great videos about this. My biggest hangup with mine is finding the right pickup height for the bridge. I mess with that all the time, to the point where my wife yells at me about it lol.
I gest played one at the Music Store there pretty nice. In my opinion there better than the Squires. Sounds pretty good
Hot Take: This is to move assets to Indonesia to EVENTUALLY replace the Mexican factory for political climate reasons (tariffs) and to eventually stop production on the Players and possibly switch the factories over from the Squier stuff so people eventually will just buy the higher end product.
Maybe...maybe not.
According to a Fender rep, I saw on a NAMM video, these guitars have been in the works for two years. I think you're onto something about shifting factories around, but my theory is that soon, most if not all Squiers will be Chinese made.
This one sounds surprisingly better than the Strat, this sounds like a Tele. The new Standard Strats sound harsh and overly glassy from the videos I’ve watched, great review
I'll have to watch some videos on the Strat. I am not the best person to talk about Stratocaster tone, so I'm probably not going to ask for one.
It's all in the fingers. Teles are my number 1.
superb playing skills, extraordinary good video. Maybe best Video about fender indonesia standard tele i have seen.
Thanks for the kind words!
Fair review
What is it for? It was made to be a Squier that says Fender on the headstock.
I don't agree. The neck is fender through and through. Other than the bent switch, which I was going to replace anyway, the build quality is indeed better than I've seen on Squiers.
Don’t need one but if I did I’d buy one. Hopefully someone needs one, 🤞🏻 for Fender.
Thank you kindly for the video.
At last someone making the comparison to the affinity not classic vibe. Very sensible. Vintera series is probably the correct comparison to CV. Having played these they are a build upgrade to the squiers. The pickups are pretty weak. I like the affinity pickups more, particularly with gain. But this has full size body, decent pots and I like the brushed saddles and the neck is fantastic. I agree the player ii is a better buy but costs more. If you are happy to swap the pickups and perhaps the switch, then this is a really good guitar. Great, sensible review. Thank you.
Thanks for watching!
I would like to see if these drop in price in the used market. It sounds from all the videos that the necks are great. If I could get one of these for under $400, then it would be great to just keep the neck and body and replace everything else, and maybe change some stuff based on the pickup routing.
Its for people that dont want squire but dont want to pay typical fender prices
If it was labeled squier Pro, it wouldn't be a huge backlash. Although it would need to be like 80 or more cheaper. The fender label on this just feels like an omega cash grab by fender. Opinions are subjective however and mine tend to change over time.
Hmmm, I don't know about Squier Pro, but it's an interesting idea. Seems to be a lot of folks think it's priced $50-$100 too high, which is understandable. I'm not sure I agree.
@@GetOffset They tried Squier Pro in the late '90s. They were priced similarly to the MIM Standards and cannibalized their sales, so they were discontinued.
Yeh I agree totally, at some point you have to say what is a fender?, for me once you start deviating from the original woods, then that's one point against it... If far far cheaper copies can use alder then fender should be doing that. It's like in England we have Dr Martens shoes that are now made in China out of inferior materials, to me they are NOT Dr Martens... This is just a rebadged squire.
@GetOffset I meant the price being 80 cheaper if it was presented as a squier pro. A new fender being 600 is not too much to ask i dont think. I don't feel like this model should have been presented as a fender though. This is based on my idea that It might sell better initially because of branding and have mid sales later and be easy for dealers to sale to newbies. On the flip side, I feel a squier pro same specs would have had a hype train in the community vs a hate train that could have sustained the line with above average sales for years. I mean Alternatively a person could buy this fender find out they like a mim or Mia way better and make multiple purchases in the line instead of being stuck in a squier is good enough for me mindset i think people have pride in. No matter how you view the way this guitar should have been branded. I think everyone agrees that dividing consumers in a niche space is never a great thing and is really annoying no matter if you like it or hate it. Lol
It is hilarious hearing people use phrases like "cash grab" when a company produces their lowest price point budget guitar.
Squier Tele S/H - £150 - Amazon Fender decal - £5 - boom!
The reasonable reviews seem fairly positive. They feel a bit overpriced, but I've heard enough positive I'm eager to try one. Especially about the necks. If the ceramic pickups are as good as the old Mexican standard, I'll honestly be surprised if I don't like them just as much as the Alnico at the same level 😂. I've always thought ceramic has its merits. ❤
Thanks for watching! Definitely try one out in person if you can.
What?!?! A UA-cam commentor with an open mind???
@Wilco1972 I've watched several reviews so far and while you can argue Alnico sounds better for one reason or another...in isolation the ceramic don't sound bad at all. If one let's go of bias for a moment they might even like the ceramic more for certain things...
Does it have a walnut plug for the truss rod or plastic?
It's a wood plug
I heard the Pete & Pete theme song by Polaris in there - nice one!
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Try the Tease guitars so much more for the money
Do they use fender standard parts? Or is it impossible to mod those?
It's a full size body but it doesn't need to be modified check them out for yourself. I think I'm going to order one of there Stratocarters they have a 12 inch radius neck. I have a newer 50s America made Telecaster probably the best guitar I've ever guitar I've ever played. I've been playing 55 years. I'm gust an old man still chasing tone. Keep on rocking
It’s for people that want Fender on the headstock rather than Squire
Nice chops 😊 Whatever the comments are in the end its just a guitar. Love it and play it 😊
Thanks!
15:40 because they’re pricier than they used to be, I think. Fender made a decidedly upmarket push with its name brand in the past ~10 or so years, leaving Squier to really fill in the
Yeah, for $800 I'd prefer to not change anything major. I think I've only swapped pickups on any of my Fenders, and those were either oddballs or were already modded when I got them.
Player 2 is really nice and takes another $1000 to get anything better. Great review!
Thanks!
Right before the end of the year Fender had blow out sales on the Squier Contemporary Strats. I got one for 270ish and figured I'd use it as a modding platform because I love the metallic sky burst blue color. Honestly though, only thing it needs is shorter saddle screws, because once I set the neck and action the bridge unfortunately became a cheese grater on my hand. The pickups and electronics are perfectly fine. I just can't see stepping up to this Standard series, I just don't see the value, I'd definitely go G&L or Sire at the price point or just get a slightly used or dinged Player 2. The Squier line is damn good is all I know, I think price and feature creep is probably more warranted with that lineup than with proper Fenders. I know people have cried havoc about Epiphone prices but they have damn good guitars for the money that arent the pricey signatures. Personally (selfishly), I would prefer to see a tier up Squier, especially with the contemporary stuff but that's risky, that's sadly way less in demand than the same ol', same ol', which is still what people want. Folks upset at the value proposition, I totally understand that and agree but folks blaming Fender's greed.. hey they make what their customers want and they're going to keep trying to make it for as cheap as possible to save costs. If you want them to change, buy the competition. I have a feeling these are going to sell well.
Just buy one of the numerous used MIMs for maybe even less, with better specs. The multi piece poplar body, Laurel board or the Affinity style maple with a glued on satin board makes it a piss take IMO. No more than a re branded Affinity. As its made in the far East, they should be able to make the Player 2 for this price....
Eh, I don't know about that.
Is that an frfr cab behind you?
No, just a regular cab with a Jupiter speaker
Nice Polaris shout out!
Have to!
Someone been smoking that high grade at Fender. Get a classic vibe and don’t fall for the BS.
If that's what you want to do, that's fine. I have a lot of Squiers, and this has a better neck and fretwork.
@ Popular body, ceramic pickups - better squires out there but I hear ya.
@@frankzappa951there’s nothing wrong with poplar bodies or ceramic pickups. Stop smoking the guitar snobbery crack pipe!
I hand build guitars with poplar bodies and ceramic pickups that sell for four times this.
The classic vibes are a much better value for the dollar.
After modding you could just buy a Player II...if you wanted 😊
I'd want to change the pickups in the Player II TBH. They're growing on me, but I still want a different bridge pickup.
My$200 Squier Sonic red/black Tele is all the mod platform I need. Just sayin'...
My Chinese sub $200 Leo-Jaymz T-type has alnico v but why Fender used ceramic in this is wild 😂
599 for a 299 guitar....Sweet!
Fender is in a tough spot at this price point no matter what. Either they make Squier more expensive, or they do this - it was always going to be a tough sell. Other brands' Indonesian made models that I've owned have been perfectly cromulent, I'm expecting this to be about the same.
You want cromulence at the end of the day don't you
@@andrewburridge5958 I expect nothing short of cromulence for the price they're asking
I don’t know if it’s your amp settings or what but it doesn’t sound good
It's for the owners of FMIC.
Aren't all of their products?
If this was a squier it would be $299
i dont think this line will be around much longer if they cant lower the price by $100 or maybe include a soft case or something. as they sit right now, and they have to do compete with PRS se, or any other Chinese guitars that are selling a lot better quality of guitar for 600 dollars
It’s a beautiful guitar and your playing is excellent.
I can’t hear the difference between those pickups and every other Telecaster I’ve played. It sounds like a Telecaster to me! So it’s not going to make a difference for a couch guitarist like myself.
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed the video.
Excellent playing. Great sounding , but in the end, just another Indo guitar with a "Genuine Fender headstock logo".
Fenders should be made by fender. None of this fender licensed to make in a cheaper factory with cheaper parts, by fender. They just used squier made parts for it. Its where the outcries lie. If fender made these in mexico, I would have no issues with it, as long as its is genuine fender parts. Fender loves to brand themselves as genuine, and these Indonesian fenders aren't genuine in any way.
They should have just called it a squier standard instead. I would be totally fine with that that. Because it seems like the inflated pricetag is mostly reflective of its headstock logo, even then it looks lowend.
Lando gets the nice comments because he's not going to take it serious, because you know he has a hard time even defending fender with this one.
I thought Landon's video was very balanced.
I think it sounds and looks fine but it may be too much money for what your getting . If the tarriffs go through that may be the only one I can afford. It seems like this may be a more lateral move from a CV squier tele😊
I think it's still an important step up. I've played way more expensive Fenders with way worse fret work.
Complete cash grab from Fender, disappointed in these guitars, I don’t care that they are made in Indonesia, just put some soul into them, and give your customers quality for $599. These guitars if I had to guess cost fender about $65 to build so where is all that overhead going, you guessed it, in there pockets. Do yourself a favor research what is out there for that money. You can easily grab a Fender player or player 2 that’s basically brand new on reverb for $600 all day long. Take care.
$65? With parts and labor? That's just ridiculous to say.
@ I have a buddy that works for one of the big guitar companies over seas. Trust me you really don’t want to know. But a big part of it is the sheer volume of guitars coming from these factories. It’s a serious rabbit hole, but yeah they are totally produced sub $100 dollars.
Customer pays for a lot
Raw materials
Production
Packaging
Shipping and duties overseas
Shipping and duties in country
Dealer markup
Fenders profit
Taxes on all over head costs
It’s crazy 🤪
UA-cam infomercial makers are now facing some backlash from the guitar general public about these guitars for the simple reason that they are a poor value and have underwhelming at best features for the price
UA-cam influencers/infomercial makers are now going to have to face the reality that the bulk of their audience is in the situation of prices on everything continue to go up yet wages have remained stagnant or have gone down- this isnt something that can be ignored anymore
Everyone knows for $600 USD you can get an excellent used Fender with better features that is better made, or you can get a new guitar from many makers that has dramatically better features and is made better
In Canada these Standards are $839 which is *absurd*-$964 all in
Paying $964 CAD for this is a complete and total waste of money and you’d feel like a fool
What backlash am I facing?
@ I don’t know if you *personally* are, but people on various guitar forums etc are pointing out the revealing and obvious difference in opinion from many in the public who view the Standard as a cynical corporate move by Fender- a cheaply made guitar with zero exciting features for $600 USD and the UA-cam infomercial channels who simply don’t point this reality out as a strong negative
It is becoming increasingly more difficult for the public to ‘trust’ (lol) guitar UA-cam channels when they gloss over what the public sees as a significant con to the guitar- overpriced and underwhelming guitar with the fender logo.
In the other hand people are doing their channels for money and that’s perfectly fine!
But I think it’s obvious there is a significant barrier for someone who gets free gear or gear to review and return to say “yeah…Fender isn’t offering you anything at all worthwhile in this Standard model for $600 other than the sticker. It is a very bad value”
We see this divide between the public and UA-camrs with numerous models- the Jaguar models with eliminated features (so ‘modern’! lol), Epiphones models raising prices etc etc
I don't know why every guitar has to be exciting to every person.
This is a budget guitar with a very good neck. I say in the video its audiences are younger guitarists who really want a Fender, and people who were maybe looking at a more expensive guitar but already know they're going to mod the shit out of it.
@@GetOffset perhaps ‘exciting’ isn’t the best word.
It is a bad value guitar- the public knows it.
Does a four-piece body make any difference to the sound? Of course not.
Do the ceramic pickups sound good? It’s subjective but sure they are fine.
Those things and other things are done because they are *cheaper* for Fender to do.
It doesn’t have the perception of quality and instead gives off the impression of some late-stage capitalism of taking advantage of your market based on the strength of your name brand.
@@Lomoholga2 I agree 100%. I have a Classic Vibe Tele that sounds and feels better in every significant way than my two Fender Players. I know that each guitar is unique, but generally speaking, it seems silly to buy the Fender Standard UNLESS money is no object.
Guitarists are dumb. Sorry, but it’s true. These are made in the same Cor-Tek factory as a lot of other guitars. It’s a $600 guitar.
People routinely buy Squiers and put Fender logos on them. They only care about the name.
US made Fenders are not automatically better.
The tuners are either Ping or Gotoh.
Poplar is a great wood for bodies. Multiple pieces don’t matter.
I’m a pickup maker and alnico magnets aren’t automatically better. Everyone seems to love gold foils these days, a those are ceramic magnets.
But in the end... 2 words to say.... Harley Benton. The sum of this story is, East asia got there shit together with guitar building. Heritage brands are focusing on catering to the rich, and paying and fortune for a playable guitar is for all intense, and purposes... Obsolete... In the end, people hear with their ears. Headstock logos don't matter if you sound good. Practice makes perfect. Gear makes broke.
3 to 4 pieces of wood for the body, poplar instead of alder, Indian laurel instead of rosewood, ceramic pickups instead of alnico, and on the teles for some reason, it’s a pcb switch? I don’t care if it said Fender or Squier, $600 is too much for that quality of guitar. Also at that price point, I shouldn’t have to mod my guitar to make it sound decent.
I just don't see $350 more value than the Squier Affinity I just bought.
If your Affinity does it for you, that's great!
Why not address that issue instead of brushing it aside so glibly?
@ What issue?
@@christopheraaron8299 the $350 price gap and what you actually get for the extra money.
I mean, Christopher doesn't see the value, and that's cool. Other people probably will. I don't see where the issue is.
I understand that some people don't think the guitar is worth the increase in the price, and I address that in the video. Whether you think a better neck and better hardware/QC is worth the money is up to you as the buyer. Speak with your wallet.
she's playing guitar but making bass faces
Cash grab from Fender, just buy a Squier instead
Sane review!
Used player series for less $$ 😂
Sure, that's an option. How is the neck on those?
If I see “Includes Paid Promotion”, I’m out.
OK
Im just not in the market for a Fender Affinity.
It's totally fine to not be in the market for something.
@@GetOffset Haha, very diplomatic response! I was just being snarky, I personally dont see much value here at this price point, but as always I appreciate your content and takes!
The only losers are the haters. There are a lot of younger players that feel that they need the right brand name on the headstock. And that is okay. If Fender doesn’t make a move like this, they will loose out to other brands. And Indonesian factories have shown they know how to make a guitar.
That's a good point
wow that sounded terrible you played fine even very good but that tele is suffering..
Lol thank you for specifying it's not my playing you didn't like
There's stupid and there's buying a F Standard stupid
these are aimed at those that want Fender on the headstock but have a Squire budget. And they are stupid enough to pay double for Fender to just put a Fender decal on a Squire.
You can disagree with wanting something and not call people stupid for wanting it
shill...
Thanks for watching!
It sounds a lot like a "guitar" being played through an "amp". Ceramic is bad, so very bad. It's for losers. These will sell like hotcakes overseas. Mod platform, code for the pickups are an affront to God and man.
Hah! I think these will sell pretty well all over. Gotta disagree with you on the ceramic pickups! I know I call them "fine," but they're better than I expected them to sound.
Ceramic pickups sound fine and way better distorted than alnico pickups. Even my $2k Schecter has a ceramic pickup and it's the best sounding guitar I've ever heard. They get a bad rep, because cheap guitars usually have $1 ceramic pickups in them.
You should check out Schecter's take on a Telecaster type guitar.
I'd love that tbh
@GetOffset I don't have one (yet), but the C-1 I do have impressed me with its quality at the price I paid.