Hi Paul, Ive got severe wing envy now! Your videos are awesome, lots of good info mixed with enthusiasm and humour, a perfect mix! Thanks for taking the time to make these for us mere mortals, a pleasure to watch!
Well bloody hell mate. What a cracking video. Told you it would be a good one, didn't I? I've cracked up at times watching this and the mind-blowing nature of the wing really comes across. Nice one! 👍👏
Thanks Kev. Once I got over the initial nerves, this wing was an absolute blast to fly. Can’t wait for mine to arrive. More in depth review to follow. 👍
Great video Paul.... I also visit DM for my paramotoring (weather permitting) . Its a fab place to either learn , fly or just pop in for a coffee. Stay safe brother
Fred, I couldn’t help but smile. It’s an amazing thing to fly. If you fly a Nine and don’t land with a stupid grin on your face then there’s something wrong with you! 👍
@@paulieb796 not really sure when the great conjunction of wing, trike and engine occurs, possibly one month, but whenever it is, it's not soon enough.
Great video... you did a great job describing the wing's feel. So you think roll is stiffer then on the Fox 13TL? I was hoping it would be a bit lighter. I wonder if it would be lighter with the wing tips. Thanks for posting... I think all us pilots that fly these trikes are excited about the wing.
I don’t think the wing was any stiffer in roll than the Fox 13TL. I just felt a little stiffer in roll compared to the feel in pitch which is super light. The wing I flew was a development wing. I think the production wings are going to be vented which should lighten the roll feel. 👍
@@paulieb796 I understand what you're saying about roll compared to pitch. What is "venting"? Sounds interesting. Thanks for posting, and you great description about how the wing flies.
@@stone8597 the Nine wing is a double surface wing which is what makes it so efficient. A vent is a small area on the under surface of the wing which allows air inside the wing (ie some sort of meshed area). The idea is the vent should lesson the force needed to initiate a roll. That’s my understanding anyway. I’m sure someone will correct me if I’ve got it wrong. 👍
@@paulieb796 Wow. Thanks for the great explanation. I'm really trying to learn everything I can about this wing. I have an Aeros ANT (Polini and Fox 13TL) and fly it with the pod that Aeros sells. The pod is beautiful but offers little in the way of wind protection for your upper body, and at higher speeds this could be annoying. I reached out to Aeros several weeks ago and ask if there was anything they could do. Well, a couple days ago they emailed me that they are working on a windshield design...they even sent a couple of photos. They're testing it to see if it will give the needed protection. Honestly, I was quite impressed with their responsiveness. Anyway, if more wind protection is offered for my trike it sort of takes away that excuse.
Hi Paul love the video, just a quick one I'am looking at ordering a Nine, on the nines I see on your channel it looks like all the leading edgers are all made of dacron ? is this the only material the nine comes with ?
Hi there. I put your question to Ben Ashman who told me : It is possible to order the Nine with a laminate cloth leading edge. The only downside is that it will stall at a higher speed in the presence of rain. The laminate cloth also can make the handling heavier in roll. Hope that helps. 👍
I'd love to fly with you guys, I'd probably want to start with the 13 to get my skills dialed but the 9 looks like a dream come true, 100MPH! No wonder you had that shit eating grin Paulie! Depending on how this next election goes I could be your neighbor so be on the lookout come November... Keep up the good work boys, this 9 has my attention!
You’d be welcome to come and fly with us any time. Good call with the 13 size before the 9. That would be like jumping on a 1000cc sports bike after passing your test on a 125cc. The 9 will go exactly where you point it (including straight down) so needs a little bit more respect but it’s an absolute blast to fly it when you’re dialled in. 👍
Hi Lee. If you go on the BMAA website, you can search for flight training schools by area. Alternatively if you use Facebook, join one of the microlight groups (the main one is simply called “microlight pilots”. Put a post on there and you will have lots of responses and recommendations. I’ve got a trip to wales planned next year so I can sample some of your stunning scenery. Cheers 👍
Is that a skyecho on your front tube Paul? if so would you share your mounting setup for it? I have one on order but they are scarce on this side of the pond.
That’s exactly my plan. The BivvyBee trike with its Corsair BlackBull engine is more than capable of flying the Nine wing so I will be plonking the Nine wing straight onto my trike. Further on down the line, I might look into replacing the BlackBull with the Polini Thor 303 which Ben is fitting to the Nine trike unit. Just need to persuade Mrs B that I need a new engine. 👍
This wings stall speed is too fast for it to meet the sub 70Kg classification, so yes it is strictly SSDR. The max take off weight is listed at 250KG so fitting onto a GT450 with a 912 wouldn't leave much left for a pilot!
@@SimonAmazingClarke don’t worry. I didn’t take it as a criticism. You are quite right in what you say. This wing is incredible at turning thrust into airspeed. 👍
Hi. I have to confess I don’t know the answer to either of these questions, but if you direct your questions to Flylight who distribute this wing, they will be able to tell you. They do have dealers in the US. They can be contacted on info@flylight.co.uk
Surprised it can also fly slowly so well. I suppose the wing technology improves all the time. Will it also still carry your full load of camping gear and beer? ;)
I was surprised that you can pootle along slowly with the bar pressed against the front strut with one finger. You could quite easily go flying with a mate in a slower machine and match your speed without any effort. The Nine wing can carry more weight than the Fox 13TL so I can carry more beer 😁😁😁
Looks great fun, I always wanted to fly but money always too tight to justify it. I have flown rc models for a long time and can fly just about anything now and fpv gives a bit of the real thing feeling but I am at the stage in my life now that I just think I should do it for real before I'm too old. What sort of cost are involved in this?
Nigel, I was in exactly the same position as you about 10yrs ago. I’d flown RC stuff then tried to up the immersion by flying FPV. Ultimately I decided I needed to get my feet off the ground and started with paramotoring. My only regret is not doing it sooner. In terms of costs, it can be as low or as high as you want it to be. I would say the cost to me is about the same as the cost of running a second car. It is surprisingly affordable. Find your nearest microlight site and pop along for a look. We’re a friendly bunch and always happy to help someone into the hobby. Thanks for watching. 👍
@@MattVickery-h1d this wing with my trike weighs more than 70kg so is classed as an SSDR microlight. Therefore I need an NPPL license to fly it. Not sure which country you’re in or what the regulations would be where you are. 👍
Great vid 👍 I dont think i will watch anymore on this wing, it will be too depressing not being able to get one until 2025. Thats when my funding will be available 😂. Kidding, i will watch more😉 Cheers
@paulieb796 Whilst I am really enjoying watching your videos : I am noticing that you have an uncanny fixation with Groundspeed figures 🤭 Maybe I am noticing it because I have an uncanny fixation with Airspeed figures because Airspeed measures an airplane's speed relative to the surrounding air, while ground speed measures its speed over the ground, factoring in wind speed. A strong tailwind can increase an aircraft's ground speed beyond its airspeed & A strong headwind can decrease an aircraft's ground speed conversely below its airspeed. Being rather pernickety, Airspeed doesn't just affect airplanes. It also affects our vehicles on the ground. As a study published in 2013 in the International Journal of Energy and Environmental Engineering describes, a car's airspeed on the highway is what really determines its fuel efficiency, rather than ground speed or the speedometer reading. Now here is an Interesting Groundspeed fact : A kite has a ground speed of 0 miles per hour, because you're holding it on the end of a line of string. But since it moves in the air, it has an airspeed that's equal to the speed of the wind. Where this fact gets interesting is : In the video you say you had a Groundspeed of 100mph so I am guessing you had an approx Airspeed of 65mph with a 35mph tailwind component which conversely would be still be an approx Airspeed of 65mph with a 35mph headwind component giving you a Groundspeed of 30mph. So with my GA Head on I am really struggling to get to grips with why it isn't mandatory to have an ASI on a Sub70/SSDR Flexwing? It brings me back to the point I made in your other excellent video about Airspeed vs Groundspeed whilst you were flying your own 'NINE' Maybe I am too reliant on having an ASI in anything I fly, but even with an ASI I have been caught out once by referencing groundspeed as opposed to what the ASI was telling me. The actual phrase I was taught is, “Airspeed is life. Altitude is insurance.” The phrase is an old aviation mantra and memory aid for all pilots. It is not just for fighter pilots. Airspeed is critical in all phases of flight. Altitude can be turned into both speed and time aloft if you're just bringing a gliding plane to an emergency off-field landing. Altitude can also provide the time (and often airspeed) needed to recover from an unusual attitude or a stall. Planes never crash into thin air. Being close to the ground is usually the most dangerous part of any flight so being able to gauge your airspeed accurately is potentially a lifesaver .
Speed is overrated. You see less of the view, make more noise, work harder, can land in less places and burn more fuel. I'm pretty sure these things are never used for business trips 🤔?
I take your point, but if I want to fly to an airfield 100miles away, I think I’d rather travel at 60mph cruise than 38mph cruise for marginally more fuel burn. I do agree though that low and slow does have its place. 👍
Awesome Paul, it still makes me smile seeing your reaction after the flight and Ben's comment right at the end. Bring on the NINE Tours.
Nine tours. Now there’s an idea👍
Trying to sort out the accent and how quickly he said it, what exactly did Ben say at the end? Confused Yank here…..
@@tomcoryell I thinks Ben’s exact words were “TITS, BUMS, WILLYS, FANNIES”! It was the most sensible thing he said all day 😂😂
I enjoyed it ao much, I had to come back and watch it again.
@@butchgeagan9768 I enjoyed it that much, I went and bought one!!
Paul thanks for the great video!! Keep them coming. Love the fly camping videos!!
I’m hoping to do a lot more camping as soon as the weather permits. 👍
That looked very sporty, Paul! It made for an entertainingt vid... and some great experience under your belt in your new flying machine 👌🏻
It was one of those flights where a light breakfast was a good idea!
Hi Paul, Ive got severe wing envy now!
Your videos are awesome, lots of good info mixed with enthusiasm and humour, a perfect mix!
Thanks for taking the time to make these for us mere mortals, a pleasure to watch!
Thank you. As long as I keep getting comments like that’ I’ll keep making the videos. 👍
Excellent video! I'm so glad you like the new wing.
I more than liked it. My face was aching making this video. 😁😁😁
Thanks for the quacking good time you had with this wing!
It was quacking good fun. 👍
Amazing video. This is going to be a long wait! Very excited.
Well worth the wait. 👍
Well bloody hell mate. What a cracking video. Told you it would be a good one, didn't I? I've cracked up at times watching this and the mind-blowing nature of the wing really comes across. Nice one! 👍👏
Cheers Dan. But I think Ben deserves all the credit for designing this wing. All I did was fly it and swear a lot!! 👍
Great vid, Paul. Exciting, informative and entertaining all the way through. Luvly job! 👌🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Thanks Kev. Once I got over the initial nerves, this wing was an absolute blast to fly. Can’t wait for mine to arrive. More in depth review to follow. 👍
I love Bens advice “Bar forward the houses get smaller…….” 😂😂😂
I would expect nothing less from Ben. He does make me laugh 😂
Great video Paul.... I also visit DM for my paramotoring (weather permitting) . Its a fab place to either learn , fly or just pop in for a coffee. Stay safe brother
Yup DM is a fantastic place. I started off learning to Paramotor there about 15 years ago and just haven’t left!
Loved that Paul, proper feel good factor mate 👏👏👍
Fred, I couldn’t help but smile. It’s an amazing thing to fly. If you fly a Nine and don’t land with a stupid grin on your face then there’s something wrong with you! 👍
Mate, I can’t wait for mine to arrive. It is going to open up so many possibilities. 👍👍😆😆
Awesome mate, you definitely looked like you enjoyed that! 🤗
I was going to be all professional and objective. That went out the window before I hit 50ft when the first swear word came out!!
Great vlog Paul, this makes me even more determined to get my license. The Triumph is up for sale!
Good choice. You can legally go faster than 70mph on a Nine!! 👍
Love your videos , super nice , nice explanation and lot to learn 😍
Thanks. So glad you are enjoying the videos. Ive got loads more planned so please consider subscribing if you haven't already.
Awesome video. I was grinning along with you 😁👍
Still grinning. It’s an absolutely fabulous upgrade to my current wing. Can’t wait for mine to arrive. 👍
AWESOME….. I don’t think I’ve ever seen you smiling for so long!!!
It takes a lot to make me smile as you know. X
So Cool 👍
Charlie, this wing really is. Mine has been held up in shipping but should hopefully be arriving early December, Cant wait.
Yes! Can’t wait to watch. Stupid work getting in the way!
I know. But work helps you pay for cool toys👍
Another wow. There's something about this wing.
Too right. When are you getting yours? It would be nice to arrange an early gathering of Nines somewhere. 👍
@@paulieb796 not really sure when the great conjunction of wing, trike and engine occurs, possibly one month, but whenever it is, it's not soon enough.
@@chrsfrwlltell. Me about it. I even know my wing has been made. 😅
Great video... you did a great job describing the wing's feel. So you think roll is stiffer then on the Fox 13TL? I was hoping it would be a bit lighter. I wonder if it would be lighter with the wing tips. Thanks for posting... I think all us pilots that fly these trikes are excited about the wing.
I don’t think the wing was any stiffer in roll than the Fox 13TL. I just felt a little stiffer in roll compared to the feel in pitch which is super light. The wing I flew was a development wing. I think the production wings are going to be vented which should lighten the roll feel. 👍
@@paulieb796 I understand what you're saying about roll compared to pitch. What is "venting"? Sounds interesting. Thanks for posting, and you great description about how the wing flies.
@@stone8597 the Nine wing is a double surface wing which is what makes it so efficient. A vent is a small area on the under surface of the wing which allows air inside the wing (ie some sort of meshed area). The idea is the vent should lesson the force needed to initiate a roll. That’s my understanding anyway. I’m sure someone will correct me if I’ve got it wrong. 👍
@@paulieb796 Wow. Thanks for the great explanation. I'm really trying to learn everything I can about this wing. I have an Aeros ANT (Polini and Fox 13TL) and fly it with the pod that Aeros sells. The pod is beautiful but offers little in the way of wind protection for your upper body, and at higher speeds this could be annoying. I reached out to Aeros several weeks ago and ask if there was anything they could do. Well, a couple days ago they emailed me that they are working on a windshield design...they even sent a couple of photos. They're testing it to see if it will give the needed protection. Honestly, I was quite impressed with their responsiveness. Anyway, if more wind protection is offered for my trike it sort of takes away that excuse.
sera que consigo importar para o brasil ????
Cuanto metros necesitar para despegar?
Can you make a video about safety and types and frequencies of accidents related to wheight shift? It really appears to be very safe.
That’s a good idea. I’ll put it on the list. As soon as I get my car back on the road, I’ll get back to making videos. 👍
@@paulieb796 Great!
Hi Paul love the video, just a quick one I'am looking at ordering a Nine, on the nines I see on your channel it looks like all the leading edgers are all made of dacron ? is this the only material the nine comes with ?
Hi there. I put your question to Ben Ashman who told me :
It is possible to order the Nine with a laminate cloth leading edge. The only downside is that it will stall at a higher speed in the presence of rain. The laminate cloth also can make the handling heavier in roll.
Hope that helps. 👍
Thank Paul that’s really useful information.
I'd love to fly with you guys, I'd probably want to start with the 13 to get my skills dialed but the 9 looks like a dream come true, 100MPH! No wonder you had that shit eating grin Paulie! Depending on how this next election goes I could be your neighbor so be on the lookout come November... Keep up the good work boys, this 9 has my attention!
You’d be welcome to come and fly with us any time. Good call with the 13 size before the 9. That would be like jumping on a 1000cc sports bike after passing your test on a 125cc. The 9 will go exactly where you point it (including straight down) so needs a little bit more respect but it’s an absolute blast to fly it when you’re dialled in. 👍
Can you recommend training please I live in Wales so the landscape is amazing
Hi Lee. If you go on the BMAA website, you can search for flight training schools by area. Alternatively if you use Facebook, join one of the microlight groups (the main one is simply called “microlight pilots”. Put a post on there and you will have lots of responses and recommendations. I’ve got a trip to wales planned next year so I can sample some of your stunning scenery. Cheers 👍
Is that a skyecho on your front tube Paul? if so would you share your mounting setup for it? I have one on order but they are scarce on this side of the pond.
Yes I have a SkyEcho mounted to the front strut. It is mounted with a GoPro tube mount with a GoPro to 1/4 inch thread adaptor.
thanks!@@paulieb796
thanks!@@paulieb796
Paul, great video, please excuse my ignorance, Will you fit the nine wing to your bicycle bee ?
That’s exactly my plan. The BivvyBee trike with its Corsair BlackBull engine is more than capable of flying the Nine wing so I will be plonking the Nine wing straight onto my trike. Further on down the line, I might look into replacing the BlackBull with the Polini Thor 303 which Ben is fitting to the Nine trike unit. Just need to persuade Mrs B that I need a new engine. 👍
Is this wing only for the Ssdr as you guys call it.. Ever try fitting it on a gt 450 and test it with 912 uls?
This wings stall speed is too fast for it to meet the sub 70Kg classification, so yes it is strictly SSDR. The max take off weight is listed at 250KG so fitting onto a GT450 with a 912 wouldn't leave much left for a pilot!
Does look awesome. Especially with a small engine
Hi Simon. It was truly awesome and the performance with my engine was perfectly acceptable. 👍
@@paulieb796 Hi Paul, I wasn't criticising the size of your engine. 100mph on thirty something hp is awesome
@@SimonAmazingClarke don’t worry. I didn’t take it as a criticism. You are quite right in what you say. This wing is incredible at turning thrust into airspeed. 👍
Wow😄
They should have called
This wing the FlyLight Wow. As that’s what most people have said after their first flight with it!
I love you guys! Too bad I'
m in the USA!!!
There are dealers in the US selling FlyLight aircraft. 😂
What length does the nine wing fold down to? I originally discounted a peabee as the wing wouldn't fit in my garage, but presumably this is shorter?
Hi Kevin. The Nine breakdown length is listed at 4.5m which is just over 0.5m shorter than the PeaBee wing. 👍
What’s this wing cost to ship to USA ? Also can it go on a revo trike lsa. We use north wing currently
Hi. I have to confess I don’t know the answer to either of these questions, but if you direct your questions to Flylight who distribute this wing, they will be able to tell you. They do have dealers in the US. They can be contacted on info@flylight.co.uk
@@paulieb796 thanks mate I think that’s how u guys say it
Woohoo. Wow
Surprised it can also fly slowly so well. I suppose the wing technology improves all the time. Will it also still carry your full load of camping gear and beer? ;)
I was surprised that you can pootle along slowly with the bar pressed against the front strut with one finger. You could quite easily go flying with a mate in a slower machine and match your speed without any effort. The Nine wing can carry more weight than the Fox 13TL so I can carry more beer 😁😁😁
Looks great fun, I always wanted to fly but money always too tight to justify it.
I have flown rc models for a long time and can fly just about anything now and fpv gives a bit of the real thing feeling but I am at the stage in my life now that I just think I should do it for real before I'm too old.
What sort of cost are involved in this?
Nigel, I was in exactly the same position as you about 10yrs ago. I’d flown RC stuff then tried to up the immersion by flying FPV. Ultimately I decided I needed to get my feet off the ground and started with paramotoring. My only regret is not doing it sooner. In terms of costs, it can be as low or as high as you want it to be. I would say the cost to me is about the same as the cost of running a second car. It is surprisingly affordable. Find your nearest microlight site and pop along for a look. We’re a friendly bunch and always happy to help someone into the hobby. Thanks for watching. 👍
That is incredible 🤯 when you go in top speed at 100 mph you can maintain level flight?
I was maintaining level flight. Engine was at full throttle though and I did have a tail wind so I would estimate my airspeed to be around 85 mph. 👍
@@paulieb796 ok thanks for the reply, it's very good for such small aircraft, I plan mont one with that wing and a Polini 303 motor
Hi Paul how much did wing cost rrp
The Nine wing with wing tips and VAT was around £8k. But you are best to contact info@flylight.co.uk for up to date prices. 👍
@paulieb796 thanks do you need licence for this wing
@@MattVickery-h1d this wing with my trike weighs more than 70kg so is classed as an SSDR microlight. Therefore I need an NPPL license to fly it. Not sure which country you’re in or what the regulations would be where you are. 👍
Great vid 👍
I dont think i will watch anymore on this wing, it will be too depressing not being able to get one until 2025. Thats when my funding will be available 😂.
Kidding, i will watch more😉
Cheers
Patrick. Believe me, it will be well worth the wait. 👍
@@paulieb796
By then the 7 will be out 😂
@@patrickmckowen2999 I'll have to hide my upcoming NINE videos then ;)
@paulieb796 Whilst I am really enjoying watching your videos : I am noticing that you have an uncanny fixation with Groundspeed figures 🤭
Maybe I am noticing it because I have an uncanny fixation with Airspeed figures because Airspeed measures an airplane's speed relative to the surrounding air, while ground speed measures its speed over the ground, factoring in wind speed.
A strong tailwind can increase an aircraft's ground speed beyond its airspeed & A strong headwind can decrease an aircraft's ground speed conversely below its airspeed.
Being rather pernickety, Airspeed doesn't just affect airplanes. It also affects our vehicles on the ground. As a study published in 2013 in the International Journal of Energy and Environmental Engineering describes, a car's airspeed on the highway is what really determines its fuel efficiency, rather than ground speed or the speedometer reading.
Now here is an Interesting Groundspeed fact : A kite has a ground speed of 0 miles per hour, because you're holding it on the end of a line of string. But since it moves in the air, it has an airspeed that's equal to the speed of the wind.
Where this fact gets interesting is : In the video you say you had a Groundspeed of 100mph so I am guessing you had an approx Airspeed of 65mph with a 35mph tailwind component which conversely would be still be an approx Airspeed of 65mph with a 35mph headwind component giving you a Groundspeed of 30mph. So with my GA Head on I am really struggling to get to grips with why it isn't mandatory to have an ASI on a Sub70/SSDR Flexwing?
It brings me back to the point I made in your other excellent video about Airspeed vs Groundspeed whilst you were flying your own 'NINE'
Maybe I am too reliant on having an ASI in anything I fly, but even with an ASI I have been caught out once by referencing groundspeed as opposed to what the ASI was telling me.
The actual phrase I was taught is, “Airspeed is life. Altitude is insurance.” The phrase is an old aviation mantra and memory aid for all pilots. It is not just for fighter pilots. Airspeed is critical in all phases of flight. Altitude can be turned into both speed and time aloft if you're just bringing a gliding plane to an emergency off-field landing. Altitude can also provide the time (and often airspeed) needed to recover from an unusual attitude or a stall. Planes never crash into thin air. Being close to the ground is usually the most dangerous part of any flight so being able to gauge your airspeed accurately is potentially a lifesaver .
Speed is overrated. You see less of the view, make more noise, work harder, can land in less places and burn more fuel.
I'm pretty sure these things are never used for business trips 🤔?
I take your point, but if I want to fly to an airfield 100miles away, I think I’d rather travel at 60mph cruise than 38mph cruise for marginally more fuel burn. I do agree though that low and slow does have its place. 👍
This wings is also perfectly capable of flying slowly as well and lands in the same distance as my much slower wing. 👍