And bang on in describing how a C6 drives. Great car, but like he said, a base model like this would need some suspension and brake upgrades before it could be a canyon carver. Guy's incredible.
you should see me driving at this speed, and corners, i can do the same thing at 150 miles an hour and 70 around corners. every master has a studen and i am seeking to surpass DK
@@befer I think he doesn't like the Corvette from the outset and his view is slanted on it. You do you though. Keichi has been an ass in the past in my memory, with the ae86 vs ae86 challenge I saw. Along with a couple other times. He's definitely an excellent driver but he pulls his ability back when he doesn't like what he's driving.
@@williamlehmaniv7460 also you could literally see him trying to steer that thing and it going out of control. It's not about his ability, it's about how shitty the car fucking drives, get over it ameritard
@@williamlehmaniv7460 I disagree, he stated that "newer" American cars are impressive, which only implies that he wasn't impressed by their previous or older vehicles. What else is he meant to form his opinion from, other than the American cars that he's driven in the past? There's no inherent bias, it's just you forming an opinion of Tsuchiya that paints the Corvette in a better light, that he he is being disingenuous.
If that was his intent with the line, he nailed the idea for sure lmao. That's all I could think of, and the cars rarely get driven "how they were meant to" cause it's an automatic with an old man behind the wheel
@@danielevans8910 I know and it's absolutely gross. I will never forget what my autotech teacher said when we were taking apart one of the 2 corvettes we had. Nice old manual, next to like an 02 automatic and he just laughed. "Is it even a Corvette?" Sarcasm sure, but I do kinda snicker when I see the automatics.
I own a z51 vette. Video is accurate; I can promise you they are setup to drive 70yr olds to the golf course. The car is soft and the bushing deflection makes turn in unpredictable. They have lots of grip, but only once the car is set in a corner. Making them ‘dance’ like this gets the car very unsettled and light. The Active Handling is THAT intrusive, although I don’t like running it; the car needs to slide more to rotate imo. In unbiased comparison, I also own a Flyin Miata tweaked NB, which is about 100x more confidence inspiring and tossable. I’ve owned a variety of track focused cars; they all put the vette very low on my list in stockish form. I’d like to ditch the mono leafs for coil overs and see how it changes. I expect to be pleasantly surprised...still likely need Delrin control arm bushings tho to get some feel out of it. Great cruiser, shitty tight course racer.
yea this gen of corvette sucks still no japanese cars were close to it N.a if you want to be all purest, z51 package comes with cheapo stiff shocks (and if you bought used defiantly needs to go after 100k) so simple coil over would allow better suspension tune. z/51 package comes with 3:15 rear diff ratio witch is not anything close to Japanese cars . final drive ratio with will change alot of the drive experience mainly acceleration
the z/51 package mainly stiffens up the rear for better response with traction system and thats still just for wheel spin , all straigt line stuff from american factorty no cars at these prices and years have real track suspension gen 3 evo prob only one that came close, skyline was close but tons of money still dumped into those to tune.
The Z51 isn’t a bad package really. The 3:15 you are referring to is for auto cars. I have an 03 Z51, which includes a power steering cooler, the Z06 front monoleaf, a specific rate rear leaf, carry over z06 shocks (larger body) along with the metal end links and sways. The c6 z51 received basically the same but included larger drilled rotors, the shorter 2-3 gearing of the m12 z06 transmission and I think trans coolers on the later c6 cars. It’s always been an under the radar package until the c7; which really gives a lot for the option box. All 6spd cars get a 3:42 final drive however. It IS a bit long on tight stuff no doubt. Vettes are awful for that, and get worse with the tr6060 cars. You obviously need a certain final drive to achieve the top end numbers these cars can hit, and within the stock rpm range. Many imports use gearsets closer to 3:90-4:30; although they need the tq multiplier and generally have lower top speeds. My car with 4:30s would be a handful, as it’s already loose through all of 2nd; which is around 70mph if you can drive out the gear spinning. The ring gear starts to get weaker as you make them taller too. A 4:10 is the highest offered by Corvette trans builders. I’ve driven a c5z and it was really good vs a base; or even my own car stock - most of that due to wider tires and non runflats. They also behave best near stock ride height. The turn in is still an issue. It’s all a trade off for NVH vs performance. The c7 actually uses a 5 chassis link in each wishbone to prevent against deflection without increasing harshness with a poly or delrin bushing. It’s quite genius and I’d like to see it adapted to the older cars. C5+ chassis is actually quite phenomenal. It just needs the right accents to make it work. That said, it’s never going to drive like a short wheelbase car, or a 2300lb car. Wheelbase is rotation. It feels great when it’s tight, but you need a longer one for stability at high speed tracks. It’s all give and take. I guess I’m blessed to be able to enjoy both. I also understand why the carbon monoleaf is there. It’s all the weight down across the lowest point of the car. Also makes for easy height adjustments unloading and loading cars. I kinda want to try a set of T1 bars and good shocks, but it wouldn’t be effective at my desired ride height. Coilover setups on vettes invert the shock and use a shorter, wider body to increase travel. I think the c6 already has 3/4” over the c5 there. Makes a big difference. That and too low puts the roll center underground... but at this point my reply is already too windy lol
this man is literally flicking a corvette at high speed to initiate and test the traction control. i know that doesn't look like a big deal but the fucking balls on this man lmao that is scary as fuck
but the viper is far more highly strung. I think he meant that it was less down to the driver if an accident were to happen, whereas the Viper gives you a better connection with the road
@@eva2602 The Viper is high strung to make it’s hp but you’re forgetting those damned V10’s made 350+ ft-lbs fucning everywhere, floor it at 2k rpm and it’ll spin
A kid here in LA crashed his corvette into a light pole then a wall when he tried racing someone. Other car slowed down then took off. Both people in the vette burned alive
It wasn't so much of a nitpick was it was a joke. If they were taking it seriously, you'd know, but most people who don't have a base in eastern languages can't tell asian language intonations worth a shit anyways. People have this weird misconception that these guys are acting super serious when this...whole thing is less scripted/seriously shot than the majority of western "talk" shows? Even Top Gear (with the old crew before BBC booted them) is fairly scripted with a lot more tension during certain scenes. Here? These guys are literally just shooting the shit.
@@RinksRides It's difficult to see in this video, but there was a loose light bulb just rolling around inside the headlight. That is what he is pointing at. So yeah, talk about quality...
Because you couldn't be identified on security footage? HD is much better... before that you couldn't tell who had the ball in football matches. I would actually like if movies was 3d-VR.. Imagine being in the movie, sitting in the seat next to Arnie.. kinda like Last action hero. Having snakes drop down in your lap in Snakes on a plane
I found it very interesting how he feels disconnected with the Corvette. He automatically felt there was less traction on the front tires going through corners. The man is a master
It’s in the culture.. In America drag races have been strong for years.. in Japan they have a lot of mountains and winding roads, So their cars are made for light weight power and hammering corners.. not that any car can be set up to do both but in general I believe this to be true.. but I’m no one sooo🤷🏻♂️
I believe a awd WRX or Mitsubishi would be the best of both worlds. Although they may lack the straight power of a traditional drag car they can be pretty quick on the launch. Although I feel they are built to be a little more meant for tight corners and such. As all AWD do quite well in sharp corners where light quickness is needed. That may also be an advantage in drag racing, that hard fast launch could give them the gap they need and hopefully fix the lack of power. There is also the point of who’s driving and any possible mods to the cars. If anyone comments please bear in mind I’m 15 and seriously into cars and such. So please don’t destroy my soul with the “He PrObAbLy ThInKs SuPrAs HaVe oNe ThOSuNd HoRSe PoWeR StOcK” I appreciate all cars and try and have unbiased opinions about what is better. A drag car isn’t meant to take the hard sharp corners of Japans mountain roads. Small quick little high rev cars aren’t meant for racing in a straight line where power matters I wrote a lot so I’ll stop now. Have a good day to anyone who’s sees my comment!!!
@@rockytalavera3399 I don't think 'all AWD do well in sharp corners' is necessarily true. In reality, AWD cars do understeer more than RWD, but some AWD cars are programmed to send power between the front and the back to reduce these issues. RWD is what really gets around sharp corners the best.
It’s not just culture, the zr5 sucks as a car and has terrible balance it’s only good for straight lines and can’t be pushed to the limit without heavy modifications, don’t question the god lmao
@@andranslam5017 RWD takes corners the best, FWD leaves corners the best (hence you'll see lets say an SRT-4 shoot out of a tight corner whereas a Camaro beside it struggles to get out without losing traction) AWD tries to negate both of these and it does it pretty well, but can sometimes end up suffering understeer even worse than even FWD will
as he says , it's difficult to drive the corvette on the limit even on the track. unlike the s2000 you can control the car with a full throttle, and that is a more enjoyable way to drive.
yea sure...ive owned a Miata ..a camaro and 2 corvettes..a c4 and a c6..all manual transmission..also multiple motorcycles..thanks for your input dumbass
Imagine his reaction to driving a C7 Z06 or a ZR1 I bet he would be really shocked that America could actually build a nifty car for the turns and corners
I've never driven a c6 and I'm wondering if they just don't like the corvettes... I recently bought a C5 that I've been dreaming to be able to afford since high school when it came out. I honestly feel like it handles pretty well even for a base 350hp fastback. Of course it has some tasteful mods :) It was a hard decision from the new brz, s2000 ap2, 350z... Yes I'm a jdm lover joining the darkside. Lol Corvettes are amazing sports car that is relatively cheap to modify in terms of power. Put a CAI in a k20z1 and you'll make 5hps. Put a vararam in a ls1 and easily makes 15-20hps. It's insane. Anyways, redundant to make it this long. I am a lover of all sports cars.
+Jessie Pascual The C6 base was soft. They favor very stiff suspensions for their togue driving because they need responsiveness. The stock c6 suspension and tires had none of that. A Z51 or Z06 would have been another story altogether. Is your C5 a Z51?
+maverick223 no I wished! I can't touch my vette yet, wife is already mad I bought one, selfish of me since I have 3 kids haha but I knew I could afford and still feed the kids. I'll start adding more mods once I get a newer gen sequoia or a 14+ durango rt. idk if you've driven any corvette but they are scary on low gears and hard paddling. I always lose control when I leave it to first gear make a hard turn while gassing it like hell. my type S want not that wild to tame... felt like it went where ever I position the wheel.
They got him the rental corvette to test drive. The amount aftermarket parts for Vette is the equivalent of Miata. There's a hundred mod for everything.
Well, America's back on the automotive map now. The new zr1, gt40, gt350, 'stang Bullitt, charger hellcat, challenger demon, Raptor SVR. Man, a lot has changed since then.
You shouldn't give too much credit to the Nordschleife Laptimes... I've seen some of the "Production cars" going for those times and you could tell they're not stock from a mile away.
This fool in the video and his clueless fanboys in the comments would still somehow explain to you why the Corvette is horrible or more specifically why an S2000 is the world's best car.
Can confirm. I owned an s2000 for 6 years and now in my 30s I have a c5z and the s2k is way snappier when it loses rear grip. But he isn't lying about the sponge feel. Even the c5 which is supposed to be a more hardcore car feels pretty spongy at the limits. That being said mines has shocks and sways so its pretty tight compared to a stock one.
@ITrustDoubt If you look at it, and know what you're talking about you'll realize he is deliberately trying to upset the car. Note that he is constantly lifting and stabbing to get the car to shift its weight. Then he comments about how the nanny gets in the way in an odd way. He is deliberately not driving fast, but rather testing how the car reacts to ham handedness. Which it does very poorly. The vette has a good distribution, but the front shocks are a little dull, same with the springs, so if you play with it gently it will still kick its tail. As he says if the car had a rhythm it would be 1,2 345, 6,7, 89, 10. This is not saying its a bad performance car, but rather that it isn't an easy car to control at its limits. The car has an impressive amount of grip, but it becomes a handful when it reaches the end of that grip. As such since the course isn't long enough and loose enough to actually reach the limits of the car, he had to do a few tricks to reach the limits and see how it reacts. Hence upsetting the balance of the car deliberately.
Dani Kimbro This is also an *extremely* early model year for the C6; the very first in fact. The later model years improved the suspension a great deal. Particularly the ones from 2010 to the end of the C6 run.
Yet none of them changed the fact that the Vette tends to have lots of low end torque and not enough rubber to handle it. As I said ham handedness will cause the car to behave poorly. As you reach the end of the grip in a vette you are going very very fast, combine that with the fact that the engine is very torquey and you get a car that likes to kick the tail very quickly and at times erratically. It also has a transaxle, which means that the middle of the car is virtually weightless, with two hunks of steel at either end. Thus it tends to have some of the characteristics of a midship car when pushed to the limits, snappier oversteer is one of those characteristics.
Dani Kimbro Well, being hamfisted in more or less *any* car will tend to make it misbehave; the C6 isn't special there. The later models tended to ship with suspension improvements and better stock rubber to kill that tendency to snap the tail. Now, if only the LS7 engine didn't have those out-of-spec valves...
Lol this is true, but while cars like the Evo, and GTR, and a few others tend to not punish you as much for being a putz this one does. Take for instance the 911, the old ones will try and kill you if you attempt to unload the rear during a corner or something similar to that. The new ones on the other hand are far more forgiving and predictable, they are ones that you can sit back a bit more and relax while you drive even while driving fast. A corvette driven at its limit is a bit of twitchy prospect and you have to be far more on the ball to get the same speed out of it as you do a 911 or something like that. Not really a worse car, just more of a handful.
Very accurate. the corvette has come a long way and is slowly achieving the ultimate balance. I dont expect it to do too well in the touge as they built the car based on american tracks. I dont ever think there will be an factory american car built that can touge as well as japanese cars considering the mountains we have are in California mostly.
100% Agree, having driven stock base model C5 and C6 Corvettes. You really don't want to push anywhere near the limit on a public road, way more horsepower than PREDICTABLE grip/handling/brakes. Also having driven an AP2 S2000, you can lean on that car HARD and the handling is confidence inspiring, which kind of fits the MO of the engine, drive it like you're trying to blow it up.
I drove a C6 convertible once from Vegas to LA. In the straights was very stable with the top down at 170mph. But I took some highway corners at 125/130mph and felt the chasis flex a lot. It has grip but not enough chasis stiffness. I imagine only the z06 and zr1 have that problem solved with fixed roofs.
Ok, if you are not a crazy skilled driver like these guys you will feel overehelmed with the grip and power of a base C6. I have driven at 8/10 them a few times and it was very emotional.
The camera on the gas and break pedals is a great touch for the video. This guy's driving scares me watching, going into those windy areas, he's feathering the gas and not the breaks.
2:03 yeah but the S2000 held the highest number of horsepower per liter of around 107 horse power per liter, also had half the wheelbase meaning that at a tougue like gunsai (the one in the video) it would supremely dominate in twisty corners, and it also had double wish bone suspension which for 1999 through early 2000s, it was insanely good for a small roadster. Also the s2k could rev to 9k and actually had an automated soft top so while Chevy was trying to “save” weight by removing the motor, the s2k even with everything still was miles lighter. And to top it all off, the corvettes v8 was “basically” mounted behind the front drive axle, but since it’s a monster v8, it extended past the axle, meaning the front-mid mounting didn’t help with better weight distribution which ultimately kept the weight 51.8-48.2, while the s2k had a smaller motor that was perfectly front-mid mounted, and a perfect 50-50 weight distribution. Oh and did I mention it had freaking VTEC?!?!? I also feel like it’s also unfair to compare a fucking s2k with a corvette MUSCLE car... s2k just outclasses it in every way, and the only way the s2k loses to the corvette is in its short wheelbase. It’s so short, it’s basically like an Mr2/Miata, where if it’s not driven smoothly and correctly, it will snap on you, and you will spin out. Oh and of course it will lose out on the straights
It´s an european Version with Z51 package, but it still wabbles through the corners. The suspension is pretty comfortable, so for racing you have to do some modifications. Than the car is great!
Base model corvette... No z51 handling package.. Thats the corvette someome buys to say they own a corvette.. That's it.. Want handling grab a z06 or zr1
Makin Bacon if you can't respect all culture, you should save it for yourself. Don't fight your preferences to anyone who doesn't share same preferences with you. Fighting for your preferences is really stupid. Every car culture have their up and downside tho'
hachi roku I do, but I will still state my opinion and back them up, too. When people call corvettes shit on this video, it bugs me. Most of what people have to say is unwarranted, ignorant garbage.
Where are these whole episodes? Can I download them or buy them. I want to watch them so bad man. Tsuchiya is a legend and I love hearing his input on different cars man
Don't know the source of this video, but, just look up Best MOTORing official ベストモータリング公式チャンネル on YT, they make all kind of car tests, touge, races, etc. It's a show with Tsuchiya Keiichi, Orido Manabu and Taniguchi Nobuteru.
@@iankersey7811 Huh? My 2012 Honda Accord literally has a switch to turn it off and my mom's Chevy Trax also has a button to turn off traction control they both are stock
god damn I was surprised to see how hard he was driving it on all those corners talking about the traction and abs lol. He was practically drifting at some points around corners
unknown43234 cause those vettes are not even stock. The one in the video is stock with no modification. Do you think a stock vette can haul ass on autocross track?
Not totally sure but pretty sure it’s Best Motoring/Hot Version. You should check out their UA-cam channel lots of drifting and tuned car touge battles
One thing I've noticed from watching this stuff is that there's a uniquely Japanese style of handling. Cars like Silvia, S2000, etc tend to have a ton of front grip relative to the rear, which is important for tight and low-speed handling such as touge or autocross. You see corners attacked with a lot of attitude, no-counter 4-wheel drifts, etc. Western cars tend to have relatively higher rear grip and don't take kindly to higher slip angles. They're tuned for the relatively higher speed, wider-corner roads and tracks found outside of Japan, with a big pile of horsepower to control. This made Japan the perfect place for the sport of drifting to originate, because elsewhere these high-slip techniques had mostly gone extinct when bias-ply tires were phased out. A few lunatics would hang it out with their 930 Turbo, E30 M3, or C4 Corvette, but it was understood that doing so was the slow way around. Well, if you were trying to go fast on Irohazaka in an S13 in 1992, a spot of low-angle drifting was probably the fast way. Hence this disconnect when the cultures meet. The C6 Corvette feels like an absolute tugboat on Gunsai, even as it dukes it out with 997s back home. Meanwhile, the S2000 and MR2 harvest course records on Japanese touge roads, but smash backwards into the tire walls on track days in America.
Idk why the c6 and S got compared here. The S is loads of fun on a tight road where you can ring it to death and have a great time. The Vette would be more suited to a more open road imo especially in stock form. That being said, a lot of people hate on the S here. There's a reason why a clean s2k is worth north of 20k still. It's an amazing car for what it is not to mention the interior has aged far better than the Vette has. The S was built to be driven and that's it. Very minimal dash and overall very well put together. Yes torque is a lot of fun, but so is pulling hard to redline at 8 or 9,000 rpms with short gears. Both very different cars with very different engineering mindsets.
c5zand former s2k owner here... Yea... That interior... I had an 05 s2k and now i have an 04 c5z and jesus I miss that s2k interior lol. Its pretty wild when I think that these cars were made just 1 year apart. But hey you buy a car like that to drive not to star at the interior. In terms of performance well, the s2k isnt even in the same league.
I’ve driven my dads 2013 grand sport and that car sure as hell is dangerous. You feel every bump on the road and if not careful can easily go very fast into a wall or oncoming traffic.
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The confidence to throw it around those narrow mountain roads like that... the tires stayed squealing 90% of the time.
Also in a LHD car
Yeah American muscle cars are sketchy in the mountain roads.
I'd like to see him do that in the same year mustang lol
That’s how the cars supposed to be driven!! Just not on public roads 😂 lol
@@hmobb7838 i drive a prius like that daily - at the edge of grip and begining of tractions end. And mostly(+80%) in the city.
The way he can comment so casually and joke around while driving at such levels.. legend indeed
And bang on in describing how a C6 drives. Great car, but like he said, a base model like this would need some suspension and brake upgrades before it could be a canyon carver.
Guy's incredible.
who drives with the TC on ?
He's not driving fast that's why. The shitty handling makes it look that way.
you should see me driving at this speed, and corners, i can do the same thing at 150 miles an hour and 70 around corners. every master has a studen and i am seeking to surpass DK
he was just driving a car???
"the lights are there to help the elderly"
"what the hell are you taking about?"
Literally as I'm watching the video, I see your comment about it xD
You watched the video too?
@@Kronos0999 As I did
Just a bad joke lol
@@Jeremy_Hill_2020 as I watch the video I see your comment as well.
I love the fact that he's not really impressed, until he notices how far back they moved the V8.
My 1987 Corvette is like that. It's not really new that they did it. The better part about the newer ones is the aluminum block.
that's the only thing he got impressed by lol
@@befer I think he doesn't like the Corvette from the outset and his view is slanted on it. You do you though. Keichi has been an ass in the past in my memory, with the ae86 vs ae86 challenge I saw. Along with a couple other times. He's definitely an excellent driver but he pulls his ability back when he doesn't like what he's driving.
@@williamlehmaniv7460 also you could literally see him trying to steer that thing and it going out of control. It's not about his ability, it's about how shitty the car fucking drives, get over it ameritard
@@williamlehmaniv7460 I disagree, he stated that "newer" American cars are impressive, which only implies that he wasn't impressed by their previous or older vehicles. What else is he meant to form his opinion from, other than the American cars that he's driven in the past?
There's no inherent bias, it's just you forming an opinion of Tsuchiya that paints the Corvette in a better light, that he he is being disingenuous.
"the lights are there to help the elderly" where i'm from most of the Corvette owners are like elder people so he wasn't wrong about that.
Yup, most of the time you see someone driving a Corvette it's an old white hair who saved up to buy one, lol.
If that was his intent with the line, he nailed the idea for sure lmao. That's all I could think of, and the cars rarely get driven "how they were meant to" cause it's an automatic with an old man behind the wheel
@@Jardonius well, going by the video, they were being exactly as they were meant to: slow and safe, while pretending to be a sports car.
@@Jardonius many corvettes are designed as autos.
@@danielevans8910 I know and it's absolutely gross. I will never forget what my autotech teacher said when we were taking apart one of the 2 corvettes we had. Nice old manual, next to like an 02 automatic and he just laughed. "Is it even a Corvette?"
Sarcasm sure, but I do kinda snicker when I see the automatics.
LOL one of the best drivers in the world calls the Corvette a sponge 😂😂😂😂🤣👍
lmaoooo
i'm pretty sure he would have called every stock US sport cars of the era glorified POS anyway ^^
@@slckb0y65 shut up. Its always vice versa too.
@@effingwrecked1917 you shut up, 'murica only learned to make somewhat decent suspensions and brakes like less than 2 decades ago
It's a SpongeBob
I own a z51 vette. Video is accurate; I can promise you they are setup to drive 70yr olds to the golf course. The car is soft and the bushing deflection makes turn in unpredictable. They have lots of grip, but only once the car is set in a corner. Making them ‘dance’ like this gets the car very unsettled and light.
The Active Handling is THAT intrusive, although I don’t like running it; the car needs to slide more to rotate imo.
In unbiased comparison, I also own a Flyin Miata tweaked NB, which is about 100x more confidence inspiring and tossable. I’ve owned a variety of track focused cars; they all put the vette very low on my list in stockish form. I’d like to ditch the mono leafs for coil overs and see how it changes. I expect to be pleasantly surprised...still likely need Delrin control arm bushings tho to get some feel out of it.
Great cruiser, shitty tight course racer.
yea this gen of corvette sucks still no japanese cars were close to it N.a if you want to be all purest, z51 package comes with cheapo stiff shocks (and if you bought used defiantly needs to go after 100k) so simple coil over would allow better suspension tune. z/51 package comes with 3:15 rear diff ratio witch is not anything close to Japanese cars . final drive ratio with will change alot of the drive experience mainly acceleration
and downhill and tight course is different
the z/51 package mainly stiffens up the rear for better response with traction system and thats still just for wheel spin , all straigt line stuff from american factorty no cars at these prices and years have real track suspension gen 3 evo prob only one that came close, skyline was close but tons of money still dumped into those to tune.
ZR1 is a total track weapon beast so is termi cobra and GT350r, honestly GTR is only one even keeping up now days for jdm
The Z51 isn’t a bad package really. The 3:15 you are referring to is for auto cars.
I have an 03 Z51, which includes a power steering cooler, the Z06 front monoleaf, a specific rate rear leaf, carry over z06 shocks (larger body) along with the metal end links and sways.
The c6 z51 received basically the same but included larger drilled rotors, the shorter 2-3 gearing of the m12 z06 transmission and I think trans coolers on the later c6 cars. It’s always been an under the radar package until the c7; which really gives a lot for the option box.
All 6spd cars get a 3:42 final drive however. It IS a bit long on tight stuff no doubt. Vettes are awful for that, and get worse with the tr6060 cars. You obviously need a certain final drive to achieve the top end numbers these cars can hit, and within the stock rpm range.
Many imports use gearsets closer to 3:90-4:30; although they need the tq multiplier and generally have lower top speeds. My car with 4:30s would be a handful, as it’s already loose through all of 2nd; which is around 70mph if you can drive out the gear spinning. The ring gear starts to get weaker as you make them taller too. A 4:10 is the highest offered by Corvette trans builders.
I’ve driven a c5z and it was really good vs a base; or even my own car stock - most of that due to wider tires and non runflats. They also behave best near stock ride height. The turn in is still an issue. It’s all a trade off for NVH vs performance.
The c7 actually uses a 5 chassis link in each wishbone to prevent against deflection without increasing harshness with a poly or delrin bushing. It’s quite genius and I’d like to see it adapted to the older cars.
C5+ chassis is actually quite phenomenal. It just needs the right accents to make it work. That said, it’s never going to drive like a short wheelbase car, or a 2300lb car.
Wheelbase is rotation. It feels great when it’s tight, but you need a longer one for stability at high speed tracks. It’s all give and take. I guess I’m blessed to be able to enjoy both.
I also understand why the carbon monoleaf is there. It’s all the weight down across the lowest point of the car. Also makes for easy height adjustments unloading and loading cars.
I kinda want to try a set of T1 bars and good shocks, but it wouldn’t be effective at my desired ride height. Coilover setups on vettes invert the shock and use a shorter, wider body to increase travel. I think the c6 already has 3/4” over the c5 there. Makes a big difference. That and too low puts the roll center underground... but at this point my reply is already too windy lol
“Dangerous”
“It’s like Japanese country music”
I noticed Enka was translated as "Japanese country music"
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this man is literally flicking a corvette at high speed to initiate and test the traction control. i know that doesn't look like a big deal but the fucking balls on this man lmao that is scary as fuck
Agreed. I have taken my c5z around on ramps at 90 mph and i was no where near the limit. These cars have crazy raw amounts of grip.
If he thought this car was dangerous, I could only imagine his reaction driving the '03 Viper
but the viper is far more highly strung. I think he meant that it was less down to the driver if an accident were to happen, whereas the Viper gives you a better connection with the road
what about your daddies viper
@@eva2602 obviously never driven a Viper op is correct
@@eva2602 The Viper is high strung to make it’s hp but you’re forgetting those damned V10’s made 350+ ft-lbs fucning everywhere, floor it at 2k rpm and it’ll spin
"it's more fun to drive a slow car fast, than a fast car slow" - james may
He got that from Jay Leno
It ain't wrong, except for Muscle cars because hot damn do those babies roar.
Except the corvette isn't very fast.
Is that the reason the Japanese made almost nothing impressive over 300 hp after 2002?
@@Corvolet5 no that's because it's illegal to sell cars over 280 hp in Japan.
Tsuchiya: The Rythem is strange.
Translation: This car sucks
sorry we don't speak brony around here
On the Touge I can see it sucking, but elsewhere its a cool car and I'm sure very fun. The Camaro is fun so I can only image what a Vette feels like.
Have you ever heard Japanese country music? I know how it feels XD
He should do a mustang and roll it
Car needs wide tires on the front and the back and a wing then its a monster
He said the way the traction control kicks in is weird. No wonder so many people wrecked this car.
A kid here in LA crashed his corvette into a light pole then a wall when he tried racing someone. Other car slowed down then took off. Both people in the vette burned alive
thekimirai same goes for the rear end on all mustangs newer than year 1
Darren Heisenberg yea that was in Gardena area wasn't it? One of them was an employee for a bit where I work at.
@@darrenheisenberg1792 Oh shit that must have been horrifying to watch
@@darrenheisenberg1792 Damn.
DANGEROUS
D A N G E R O U S
Hell yeah brother thats the american spirit
lol I wonder what'll he say about the mustang
why isnt this a meme already
No helmeto
"It should be fun going straight"
lmao, don't be fooled, this is an insult
"What's this? What's that light bulb doing there?" I love how they nitpick the aesthetic flaws, very Japanese.
ever seen that stupid bulb on an R32 or S2000?! Seriously question GM's designing.. "cough"(asstech)
It wasn't so much of a nitpick was it was a joke. If they were taking it seriously, you'd know, but most people who don't have a base in eastern languages can't tell asian language intonations worth a shit anyways. People have this weird misconception that these guys are acting super serious when this...whole thing is less scripted/seriously shot than the majority of western "talk" shows? Even Top Gear (with the old crew before BBC booted them) is fairly scripted with a lot more tension during certain scenes. Here? These guys are literally just shooting the shit.
@@whythefuckdowehavethisherenow lmao agreed. It’s so casual like making fun the entire time. Tsuchiya san has a natural sense of Japanese humor
@@RinksRides It's difficult to see in this video, but there was a loose light bulb just rolling around inside the headlight. That is what he is pointing at. So yeah, talk about quality...
What about the old ae86's that would beep every time you went over 80. Seems like a good aesthetic too
I miss the days when image quality was like this and subtitles looked like that. Something about back then makes me feel better.
everything was simpler and better than
Because you couldn't be identified on security footage?
HD is much better... before that you couldn't tell who had the ball in football matches.
I would actually like if movies was 3d-VR..
Imagine being in the movie, sitting in the seat next to Arnie.. kinda like Last action hero.
Having snakes drop down in your lap in Snakes on a plane
I found it very interesting how he feels disconnected with the Corvette. He automatically felt there was less traction on the front tires going through corners. The man is a master
Calls it a "sponge" while drifting the crap out of it, lol. Gotta love Tsuchiya.
He chuckled too. He didn't want to admit it was kinda fun hehe
@@Jardonius nope, he tried to say that corvette suspension sucks.
@@manelmoyano7080 not really its cause the targa top was off
@@manelmoyano7080 wait this Corvette use leaf rear double wishbone right?
“This car has a double wishbone suspension”
Lol every economy Honda from the 90s has one of those too
Golden era of Honda but tbh they were a bit heavy AE101 were a good 200 lbs lighter
em2 guys: *REEEE* ...
Yeah but they had a rear trailing arm, the vette has had independent suspension front and rear since the 60s and a double wishbone setup since 1983
@@killstacy8088 not to mention the civics stopped having double wishbone since 01 in favour for a MacPherson front
@@Dylanschillin and they stopped having rear independent trailing arms in 06 for a solid dead axle
The definition of balls of steel this man will drive any car without fear
“It’s like Japanese Country Music”
Epic double insult😂😂😂
"Shouldnt the targa top be automated thats how it is everywhere else?"
*Nissan 300ZX z32 has joined the chat*
*Nissan z32 holds the door open for mk3 supra.
*1998 ford mustang v6 enters*
*Knight Industries Two Thousand Turbo Boosts onto the podium*
Yea but that was 20 years prior to the C6!
It’s in the culture.. In America drag races have been strong for years.. in Japan they have a lot of mountains and winding roads, So their cars are made for light weight power and hammering corners.. not that any car can be set up to do both but in general I believe this to be true.. but I’m no one sooo🤷🏻♂️
I believe a awd WRX or Mitsubishi would be the best of both worlds. Although they may lack the straight power of a traditional drag car they can be pretty quick on the launch. Although I feel they are built to be a little more meant for tight corners and such. As all AWD do quite well in sharp corners where light quickness is needed. That may also be an advantage in drag racing, that hard fast launch could give them the gap they need and hopefully fix the lack of power. There is also the point of who’s driving and any possible mods to the cars.
If anyone comments please bear in mind I’m 15 and seriously into cars and such. So please don’t destroy my soul with the “He PrObAbLy ThInKs SuPrAs HaVe oNe ThOSuNd HoRSe PoWeR StOcK”
I appreciate all cars and try and have unbiased opinions about what is better. A drag car isn’t meant to take the hard sharp corners of Japans mountain roads.
Small quick little high rev cars aren’t meant for racing in a straight line where power matters
I wrote a lot so I’ll stop now. Have a good day to anyone who’s sees my comment!!!
@@rockytalavera3399 I don't think 'all AWD do well in sharp corners' is necessarily true. In reality, AWD cars do understeer more than RWD, but some AWD cars are programmed to send power between the front and the back to reduce these issues. RWD is what really gets around sharp corners the best.
It’s not just culture, the zr5 sucks as a car and has terrible balance it’s only good for straight lines and can’t be pushed to the limit without heavy modifications, don’t question the god lmao
@@AndyFuntown yeah in power and power only, they suck
@@andranslam5017 RWD takes corners the best, FWD leaves corners the best (hence you'll see lets say an SRT-4 shoot out of a tight corner whereas a Camaro beside it struggles to get out without losing traction) AWD tries to negate both of these and it does it pretty well, but can sometimes end up suffering understeer even worse than even FWD will
I love how he always looks like he's just out for a leisurely sunday drive, never looks pressed or concerned lol
as he says , it's difficult to drive the corvette on the limit even on the track. unlike the s2000 you can control the car with a full throttle, and that is a more enjoyable way to drive.
its because you can't handle the power
yea sure...ive owned a Miata ..a camaro and 2 corvettes..a c4 and a c6..all manual transmission..also multiple motorcycles..thanks for your input dumbass
NRIautos he aint shit bro dont listen to him smh
moh97gt its because the 2000 only made like 200 hp. Who couldn't keep the gas down??
NRIautos you never seen or drove one. More power is better kid
"It should be fun going straight " that sums it up lol 😂
Mid Night Club would have a few Corvette owners in the 2000's had the bosozoku didn't show up to challenge them.
"What? You have to lift it with your hands!?"
"Yes, with your hands."
"Shouldn't that all be automated? That's how it is in the rest of the world."
pov Lamborghini diablo owners
Imagine his reaction to driving a C7 Z06 or a ZR1 I bet he would be really shocked that America could actually build a nifty car for the turns and corners
Or the ZL1 1LE which is even more of a track car
I think anyone 15-20 years ago would be shocked at the cars we have now. A GT500 or ZR1 would blow their minds, for a factory vehicle I mean.
He did actually and he likes the car too
He drove an automatic C7 Z51 and loved it. He drove a Z06 auto and the transmission refused inputs so he was lukewarm.
wish they let him drive a C3 stingray, that would be cool or a Trans AM last gen models. we need more Japanese drivers reacts to American Muscle
"It should be fun going straight".
'Merica in a nutshell!
Commenter: "now for the impression."
Japanese drift master: "Its like a sponge if you ask me. LMAO
2:33 lmaoooo fucking DK, you're a genius
The corvette was thinking: "NANI!? WHAT ARE YOU DOING, MAN!? I wasn't designed to be driven like that"
When he was driving I checked my playback speed to put it back to normal... Turns out he's just really driving that fast lol
I've never driven a c6 and I'm wondering if they just don't like the corvettes...
I recently bought a C5 that I've been dreaming to be able to afford since high school when it came out. I honestly feel like it handles pretty well even for a base 350hp fastback. Of course it has some tasteful mods :)
It was a hard decision from the new brz, s2000 ap2, 350z...
Yes I'm a jdm lover joining the darkside. Lol
Corvettes are amazing sports car that is relatively cheap to modify in terms of power. Put a CAI in a k20z1 and you'll make 5hps. Put a vararam in a ls1 and easily makes 15-20hps. It's insane.
Anyways, redundant to make it this long.
I am a lover of all sports cars.
+Jessie Pascual The C6 base was soft. They favor very stiff suspensions for their togue driving because they need responsiveness. The stock c6 suspension and tires had none of that. A Z51 or Z06 would have been another story altogether. Is your C5 a Z51?
+maverick223 no I wished! I can't touch my vette yet, wife is already mad I bought one, selfish of me since I have 3 kids haha but I knew I could afford and still feed the kids. I'll start adding more mods once I get a newer gen sequoia or a 14+ durango rt.
idk if you've driven any corvette but they are scary on low gears and hard paddling. I always lose control when I leave it to first gear make a hard turn while gassing it like hell. my type S want not that wild to tame... felt like it went where ever I position the wheel.
leki kelekona bro feed your kids
Sad Guroo dude that was 2 years ago, do u think he fed his kids?
Change the cam and gain 80hp.
They got him the rental corvette to test drive. The amount aftermarket parts for Vette is the equivalent of Miata. There's a hundred mod for everything.
@D C 3100 LBS is not heavy at all for a GT class car
“What are these bean headlights” HAHAHHAHA
Well, America's back on the automotive map now. The new zr1, gt40, gt350, 'stang Bullitt, charger hellcat, challenger demon, Raptor SVR. Man, a lot has changed since then.
Answers to an 5-6 years old comment. Welcome to the year 2019 lmao.
@@VxO4fameseethe
And then 1 year after, Chevy went full 'murica and released the zo6 which ended up pulling a 7.22 at the Nurburgring
And won Le Mans.
You shouldn't give too much credit to the Nordschleife Laptimes... I've seen some of the "Production cars" going for those times and you could tell they're not stock from a mile away.
This fool in the video and his clueless fanboys in the comments would still somehow explain to you why the Corvette is horrible or more specifically why an S2000 is the world's best car.
@@DesertStateNevada who hurts you man?
@@DesertStateNevada what is wrong with you
Brb gonna go listen to some Japanese country music.
Sir, your name is colliding into my recommended videos.
@@UkraineJames2000 I blame the government!!
URAMI
IBUSHI
That Corvette wasn't ready for the drift king!
that's funny considering the s2000 is known for being snappy
Can confirm. I owned an s2000 for 6 years and now in my 30s I have a c5z and the s2k is way snappier when it loses rear grip. But he isn't lying about the sponge feel. Even the c5 which is supposed to be a more hardcore car feels pretty spongy at the limits. That being said mines has shocks and sways so its pretty tight compared to a stock one.
The C6 Z06 is a much more stiffer ride but way much better grip, feel and control.
@@CrossWindsPat should check out the new Supra (BMW).... it does not disappoint.
I’ve never seen a corvette driving that fast with such control.
@ITrustDoubt If you look at it, and know what you're talking about you'll realize he is deliberately trying to upset the car. Note that he is constantly lifting and stabbing to get the car to shift its weight. Then he comments about how the nanny gets in the way in an odd way. He is deliberately not driving fast, but rather testing how the car reacts to ham handedness. Which it does very poorly. The vette has a good distribution, but the front shocks are a little dull, same with the springs, so if you play with it gently it will still kick its tail. As he says if the car had a rhythm it would be 1,2 345, 6,7, 89, 10. This is not saying its a bad performance car, but rather that it isn't an easy car to control at its limits. The car has an impressive amount of grip, but it becomes a handful when it reaches the end of that grip. As such since the course isn't long enough and loose enough to actually reach the limits of the car, he had to do a few tricks to reach the limits and see how it reacts. Hence upsetting the balance of the car deliberately.
Dani Kimbro This is also an *extremely* early model year for the C6; the very first in fact. The later model years improved the suspension a great deal. Particularly the ones from 2010 to the end of the C6 run.
Yet none of them changed the fact that the Vette tends to have lots of low end torque and not enough rubber to handle it. As I said ham handedness will cause the car to behave poorly. As you reach the end of the grip in a vette you are going very very fast, combine that with the fact that the engine is very torquey and you get a car that likes to kick the tail very quickly and at times erratically. It also has a transaxle, which means that the middle of the car is virtually weightless, with two hunks of steel at either end. Thus it tends to have some of the characteristics of a midship car when pushed to the limits, snappier oversteer is one of those characteristics.
Dani Kimbro
Well, being hamfisted in more or less *any* car will tend to make it misbehave; the C6 isn't special there. The later models tended to ship with suspension improvements and better stock rubber to kill that tendency to snap the tail.
Now, if only the LS7 engine didn't have those out-of-spec valves...
Lol this is true, but while cars like the Evo, and GTR, and a few others tend to not punish you as much for being a putz this one does. Take for instance the 911, the old ones will try and kill you if you attempt to unload the rear during a corner or something similar to that. The new ones on the other hand are far more forgiving and predictable, they are ones that you can sit back a bit more and relax while you drive even while driving fast. A corvette driven at its limit is a bit of twitchy prospect and you have to be far more on the ball to get the same speed out of it as you do a 911 or something like that. Not really a worse car, just more of a handful.
I drove my uncle's C6 at autocross and this comment sums up the C6 perfectly
Very accurate. the corvette has come a long way and is slowly achieving the ultimate balance. I dont expect it to do too well in the touge as they built the car based on american tracks. I dont ever think there will be an factory american car built that can touge as well as japanese cars considering the mountains we have are in California mostly.
"It should be fun going straight" nuf said
This man has a lot of balls to drive this Vette like that!
Those outfits are great
Love the aloha shirts with the American car
I love japan
That's so Hawaiian
@@leftright6054 Yah U !!!!!
My heart dropped when he opened the door I thought a cloaker was coming 0:45
100% Agree, having driven stock base model C5 and C6 Corvettes. You really don't want to push anywhere near the limit on a public road, way more horsepower than PREDICTABLE grip/handling/brakes. Also having driven an AP2 S2000, you can lean on that car HARD and the handling is confidence inspiring, which kind of fits the MO of the engine, drive it like you're trying to blow it up.
...dangerous
This is gold haha. Fun to watch someone work the car that hard.
I drove a C6 convertible once from Vegas to LA. In the straights was very stable with the top down at 170mph. But I took some highway corners at 125/130mph and felt the chasis flex a lot. It has grip but not enough chasis stiffness. I imagine only the z06 and zr1 have that problem solved with fixed roofs.
Ok, if you are not a crazy skilled driver like these guys you will feel overehelmed with the grip and power of a base C6. I have driven at 8/10 them a few times and it was very emotional.
For me. Emotional Damage.
The camera on the gas and break pedals is a great touch for the video. This guy's driving scares me watching, going into those windy areas, he's feathering the gas and not the breaks.
“Uhhhhh dangerous.” I died laughing after watching this man drive like a madman down hill that’s wide enough for only one care lmao
its cool to see the jdm experience here reversed with two experts reviewing a iconic american car
he came out in tohyo drift the fishermen when the guys practicing lol never knew this
I knew he looked familiar in the movie
Whaaat
Good old Video Option. Had great times with these back in the day.
dangerous is what we were looking for 😂 loved this
Dangerous XD He couldn't say it better.
2:03 yeah but the S2000 held the highest number of horsepower per liter of around 107 horse power per liter, also had half the wheelbase meaning that at a tougue like gunsai (the one in the video) it would supremely dominate in twisty corners, and it also had double wish bone suspension which for 1999 through early 2000s, it was insanely good for a small roadster. Also the s2k could rev to 9k and actually had an automated soft top so while Chevy was trying to “save” weight by removing the motor, the s2k even with everything still was miles lighter. And to top it all off, the corvettes v8 was “basically” mounted behind the front drive axle, but since it’s a monster v8, it extended past the axle, meaning the front-mid mounting didn’t help with better weight distribution which ultimately kept the weight 51.8-48.2, while the s2k had a smaller motor that was perfectly front-mid mounted, and a perfect 50-50 weight distribution. Oh and did I mention it had freaking VTEC?!?!? I also feel like it’s also unfair to compare a fucking s2k with a corvette MUSCLE car... s2k just outclasses it in every way, and the only way the s2k loses to the corvette is in its short wheelbase. It’s so short, it’s basically like an Mr2/Miata, where if it’s not driven smoothly and correctly, it will snap on you, and you will spin out. Oh and of course it will lose out on the straights
Is this a response to... them? Cos I think they know...
Lol holy shit dude , I hope you at least own an s2000
These guys are so funny. Imagine being an engineer of a monsterous v8 chevy engine and these guys pull up
Just the way he takes corners
It's inspiring
It´s an european Version with Z51 package, but it still wabbles through the corners. The suspension is pretty comfortable, so for racing you have to do some modifications. Than the car is great!
sniperBOBAH That is NOT a z51. If Europe got a z51 like this I honestly feel bad for them. This is a base model
@@DigitalSubset true this is the grandpa version
Base model corvette... No z51 handling package.. Thats the corvette someome buys to say they own a corvette.. That's it.. Want handling grab a z06 or zr1
thats a problem. america should stop selling fake versions of sports cars.
krazor8 yea yea yea excuses
Jacknife1007 I think they have the base models for non car people. Not everyone wants to feel like they’re driving a “race car” .
You shouldn't need a special handling package for a car to be decent.
HAHAHAHAHAHA... No.. You grab those if you want to crash into a tree at a higher speed while trying to make a turn
The Way my guy was Driving while simulations giving that Review was awesome.
Maaan this is the coolest thing I've ever seen!!!!
Jesus this comment section is cancer lmao
Most of them are 13yo fanboy who can't drive for shit. If you are true car enthusiasts, you should respect any type of cars.
hachi roku I cant respect all of car culture. Im sorry. That doesnt make me not a car enthusiast.
Makin Bacon if you can't respect all culture, you should save it for yourself. Don't fight your preferences to anyone who doesn't share same preferences with you. Fighting for your preferences is really stupid. Every car culture have their up and downside tho'
hachi roku exactly!
hachi roku I do, but I will still state my opinion and back them up, too. When people call corvettes shit on this video, it bugs me. Most of what people have to say is unwarranted, ignorant garbage.
Thanks to this video Corvettes are still affordable.
Fantastic. Well done, algorithm!
Where are these whole episodes? Can I download them or buy them. I want to watch them so bad man. Tsuchiya is a legend and I love hearing his input on different cars man
Don't know the source of this video, but,
just look up Best MOTORing official ベストモータリング公式チャンネル on YT,
they make all kind of car tests, touge, races, etc. It's a show with Tsuchiya Keiichi, Orido Manabu and Taniguchi Nobuteru.
I wish the videos of him driving the C6 Z06 had english subtitles
Some fanboi would add subtitles and put the wrong translation to serve their cause.
That traction control was really not helping at all I think he should've turned it off
You cant just turn off the traction control in a stock car lol
@@iankersey7811 why not?
@@theanimeotaku2794 theres a lot to removing traction control in a stock car. Its not just a matter of flipping a switch
@@iankersey7811 Huh? My 2012 Honda Accord literally has a switch to turn it off and my mom's Chevy Trax also has a button to turn off traction control they both are stock
@@theanimeotaku2794 in a lot of cars that button does not turn the traction control off, it just raises the limit at which it kicks in.
I like how he was optimistic. But in the end, it is an American sports car.
Homeboy said “hehe” while blasting through narrow corners
I'd like to see him drive a c4 zr1
god damn I was surprised to see how hard he was driving it on all those corners talking about the traction and abs lol. He was practically drifting at some points around corners
that's some unrivaled confidence, Jesus Christ.
"It's should be fun going straight"
It's c6 coupe and its completely stock. Should be driving a c5 z06.
Jonathan Varela my thoughts exactly
Still gay
shawn kaneko how very insightful
shawn kaneko you should feel right at home then...
shawn kaneko no u
Good thing he was wearing his murdering gloves... don't know how it would have gone otherwise.
“If the glove does not fit, you must acquit”
I wonder what DK would think of the newer Corvette with the mid-engine giving the Corvette name a more real racing feel that MR cars benefit from.
Commenting about attributes fitting for the elderly, then proceeding to test it wearing a Hawaii shirt and gardening gloves :) Top review!
"It will be fun going straight"........that pretty much sums up any sports car from the US.
someone get him the 2019 zr1
He did give high praises to the c7 corvette handling when comparing it to the LC500
What series of videos did I click on for UA-cam to recommend this to me?
Wish this dude had a video of the V6 ford GT he'd be blown away.
Sure, the Corvette isn't the best on the touge. But on high speed tracks is where this car shines.
Quackz Almighty no it doesnt
Go to ANY autocross in the USA and you'll see vettes in the top times.
unknown43234 k
Sad Guroo Idiot 😂😂😂
unknown43234 cause those vettes are not even stock. The one in the video is stock with no modification.
Do you think a stock vette can haul ass on autocross track?
i want a manual corvette c5 :(
rare in germany
F bro.
The C5 is common in México
import from rest of europe. I imported my zzw30 from denmark where it was imported to from germany.
Which show is this from? I'd like to see Tsuchiya review more cars.
Not totally sure but pretty sure it’s Best Motoring/Hot Version. You should check out their UA-cam channel lots of drifting and tuned car touge battles
One thing I've noticed from watching this stuff is that there's a uniquely Japanese style of handling. Cars like Silvia, S2000, etc tend to have a ton of front grip relative to the rear, which is important for tight and low-speed handling such as touge or autocross. You see corners attacked with a lot of attitude, no-counter 4-wheel drifts, etc. Western cars tend to have relatively higher rear grip and don't take kindly to higher slip angles. They're tuned for the relatively higher speed, wider-corner roads and tracks found outside of Japan, with a big pile of horsepower to control. This made Japan the perfect place for the sport of drifting to originate, because elsewhere these high-slip techniques had mostly gone extinct when bias-ply tires were phased out. A few lunatics would hang it out with their 930 Turbo, E30 M3, or C4 Corvette, but it was understood that doing so was the slow way around. Well, if you were trying to go fast on Irohazaka in an S13 in 1992, a spot of low-angle drifting was probably the fast way. Hence this disconnect when the cultures meet. The C6 Corvette feels like an absolute tugboat on Gunsai, even as it dukes it out with 997s back home. Meanwhile, the S2000 and MR2 harvest course records on Japanese touge roads, but smash backwards into the tire walls on track days in America.
I don’t speak a word japanese but I love to watch japanese guys talking to eachother
I love how they toss in a random English word here and there
It's a pleasure to see people who genuinely enjoy cars talking about them. It feels so great to watch
Idk why the c6 and S got compared here. The S is loads of fun on a tight road where you can ring it to death and have a great time. The Vette would be more suited to a more open road imo especially in stock form. That being said, a lot of people hate on the S here. There's a reason why a clean s2k is worth north of 20k still. It's an amazing car for what it is not to mention the interior has aged far better than the Vette has. The S was built to be driven and that's it. Very minimal dash and overall very well put together. Yes torque is a lot of fun, but so is pulling hard to redline at 8 or 9,000 rpms with short gears. Both very different cars with very different engineering mindsets.
c5zand former s2k owner here... Yea... That interior... I had an 05 s2k and now i have an 04 c5z and jesus I miss that s2k interior lol. Its pretty wild when I think that these cars were made just 1 year apart. But hey you buy a car like that to drive not to star at the interior. In terms of performance well, the s2k isnt even in the same league.
I don't want to sound like an idiot but I probably will, what show is this from?
Talk about straight line..even my granny can drive in straight line
@Swadian Knight its easy to drive straight really lolz
Apparently not for some people considering the amount of videos where people drive muscle cars and crash right after leaving a car meet lol
Hey Tsuchiya: Maybe it'd handle a little better with the roof installed? Just a thought.
Does anyone know the music track they played at the end? It sounds really cool.
I’ve driven my dads 2013 grand sport and that car sure as hell is dangerous. You feel every bump on the road and if not careful can easily go very fast into a wall or oncoming traffic.