One of my great-grandmothers suffered from what we'd probably now call PTSD. She was a World War II refugee. They lost everything, including two babies. She couldn't work anymore by the time they got to the USA, so the doctors here suggested shock therapy for her depression and panic attacks. When that didn't work, they lobotomized her. She became childlike and spent 25 years in a place like this. My grandma had four babies herself and couldn't take care of her mother, who needed around the clock care and supervision. The guilt from that haunted my grandma all her life. The nice old 50s weren't always so nice. Love you, Granny. ❤️ You didn't know. You did your best.
In the 70s we had at our junior school, an old chap who used to walk the school grounds, cut the grass and paint white lines on the playing field. He had a younger brother who was the school janitor. I once over heard the janitor tell the school principal that “ my brothers been away and had that electro shock treatment” that always stuck in my mind. I felt sorry for him afterwards
My mom had that same treatment in the 1980s. I was only 3 or 5. She told me how they did it and basically treated them like cattle. The Dr used my mom as a guinea pig. My mom's Dr passed away a few weeks ago. There was a big article in the paper that his interests were, especially in pharmacology with the brain. 😢 My mom finally got better after 10 years. She was sick when I was 1 until I was 10. Thankfully, my grandmother helped raise me. My dad traveled a lot as a chemical engineer.
I was put into a psych-ward after a severe depressive episode. I was put on hold for 3 days. I was extremely depressed, it was horrible (the way I felt). I didn't belong in a psych-ward, the staff was fantastic BUT I was sooooo scared. I felt like I was never going to get out, I had no family so I didn't get visits and I was too embarrassed to tell the few close friends I had. I thought they would see that no one was visiting me and think that I was crazy. I thought they would see me go into my room and cry because I was lonely and think I was crazy. I have very thick hair for a guy and it looked a mess after a day, I thought they would leave me there because of my appearance. I would walk around the ward all day as I was so bored and would get scared because I thought they would think I was crazy for doing this. I almost lost my job (I had a high position at a large corporation) - I called in but I NEVER called in for 7 years straight. Again, the staff was very good and I am thankful for them BUT I was surprised that I could be forced there and that it would be for 3 days - I am still upset about that. Ultimately during that phase in life, I had addiction issues, horrible depression - I lost 3 people close to me and my GF left me suddenly. In the end, I got fired, I lost my condo and a lot of my retirement. All I have is my 15 year old dachshund - I've done odd jobs but I have yet to regain full time employment (it's been 10 months!) - I actually get the line "you're overqualified" - I hate that. I don't know if I will ever or want to climb the corporate chain again. I want a paycheck, healthcare and a 401k - I miss that. I'm 45 and I'm starting all over again. It's so weird.
keep your chin up---i was not depressed enough to qualify for an institutional setting but i sure felt despondent. you can nearly always build yourself up again but maybe take a lesser position. i also have addiction issues and abuse shit from my past. and it takes time to find a job, maybe God is protecting you from unnecessary stress and ppls bs right now. take care and dont be so hard on yourself.
@@jennydoucette2538 thank you Jenny! 8 months later and I have a job! I can’t say I’m stable quite yet but I’ve met some new really great friends. I appreciate the comment, it was very sweet.
@6:51 the "competent medical examiners" just shine a flashlight in a guy's eye and nod to each like "Yep those are dead eyes. Send him to the snake pit"
Very interesting video. It must be remembered that psychiatry was still in its infancy back then, and schizophrenia was new territory as far as drug therapy went. Insulin-shock was common treatment for it. Electroshock therapy was used for manic depression (bipolar disorder), and lithium was added later when it was shown to be effective for treating manic episodes.
It's still in its infancy, and though our methods are more refined, they are more directed at profiteering, too. Cognitive behavioral therapy and hypnosis are the keys to the mind, but we prefer pumping pills into people, because it's what keeps the pockets lined.
It's still in its infancy. The field of psychiatry and diagnosis is nothing more than pseudo science and anecdotal, experimental care. It's a revenue machine.
@@manictiger that's a very simplistic way of looking at it. if you were a mental health professional, you'd realize how many people go into offices demanding some kind of pill--and this is a big reason why peregrination is such a problem these days. eventually some doctor will give them what they demand. believe me, most doctors tell people the same thing about antidepressants and other pills what they tell them about antibiotics: "i don't want to give you amoxicillin, your son has the flu, antibiotics won't help him." but still they demand SOMETHING. some doctors just get jaded and say fine, here, take a pill. same thing with head drugs--they demand some pill that they say on the internet, or in a TV commercial. step one: eliminate drug advertising the same way we eliminated tobacco ads. or severely curtail them like alcohol advertising is strictly monitored and governed. nobody should say "hey, that pill sounds good, let me get that". this shit is dangerous, but they don't make that clear in commercials. this isn't diet soda. they're literally drugs. plenty of people threaten legal action if you "refuse care" these days. we could sit and discuss the insane rise of malpractice premiums and reduced coverage these days vs. 50 years ago, but that's not something most regular people think about or care about.
Fake everything In a mental institution patients are busy doing activities sleeping others under hypnosis satanism sleep like the new patients. The CIA doctors and staff are cover scare of new patients their cover in glass do they have to hypnosis them to steal credit cards
Did some research on the insulin shock therapy, very interesting because I hadn't heard about it at all. I read that after a high dose of insulin patients would slip into a somewhat of a "controlled coma" and some psychiatrists would purposely give these patients seizures they were thought to be therapeutic? Weird stuff.
They were called lunatic asylums, they should have not closed them down in the 1980s ..The repulsive woke world that people tolerate now is possible worse than anytime in human history ..you talk about the 1950s as if it not better than now !
Living-if-you-could-call-it-that, and dying, on a dirty sidewalk in the slums of some big city, unfed, unhoused, unclean, unfed, constantly tortured by the visions and voices in your head -- if you don't think that that is more horrifying, well, I won't say anything more, because it might prove offensive.
@@johneeeemarry34 Woke has exactly nothing to do with anything, but you just couldn't not take the opportunity to squeeze it in somehow as if it did, could you? The asylums were closed when tax-hating Republicans in state governments, from Caliornia's governor Ronald Reagan on down, wanted to eliminate them as costly budget items, and found that they were somehow on the same side as a 1960s liberal "patients' rights" movement that foolishly dreamed that the released patients and the mentally ill of the future would have fun, nice, healthy "care in the community" paired with the new psychiatric medicines, and intensive psychotherapy. At the same time, they decided the modern civil-rights approach would be to let the very severely mentally ill "be in charge of their own treatment," able to turn down help or stop taking medications at will. Freedom! Aren't you people supposed to be for "Freedom?" And I don't want to say you are an idiot, but with all due respect, if you seriously argue that the modern world "is possibly worse than anytime in human history," then my friend, you have just said it about yourself. Catch a clue.
Back in the fifties, most movies and short videos were using mono sound only a right or left channel. This film used left channel. Hence your are listing to mono on the left.
They made no reference to, "The Lead Pill Treatment." Wherein a 125grain piece of lead, .357 Thousandths of an inch in diameter, traveling at 1300 feet per second, is directed to travel through the patient's head. Incredibly, the treatment takes only a fraction of a second. As far as the treatments success, patients are unwilling to comment.
From the Mayo Clinic website: “Much of the stigma attached to ECT is based on early treatments in which high doses of electricity were administered without anesthesia, leading to memory loss, fractured bones and other serious side effects.”
I suspect every other patient except for "Fred." In that day and age it was all right to film mental cases for educational purposes. Nowadays a script has to be written and actors hired, to pretend to be mental patients, instead of showing medical students the real thing, which would seem preferable in any such situation. Nowadays it's like they handed a surgery student a plastic heart to practice on and said: "When you get in the OR and do your first heart surgery it'll look like kinda like this!"
maybe the brain numbing drugs Real Fact (in at least Australia) if you comply completely they tie you down and inject you with heavy drugs, drugs you cant overdose on but cook your mind beyond repair
@J Hemphill ayo idk if you're here with no prior knowledge of how shit worked back then but people used shock therapy and lobotomies to "cure" whatever the fuck was up with the patient,even though in most cases it left them pretty much braindead. Besides that they admitted people with just depression,anxiety or anything else that is more common and just a tad easier to deal with that psychosis,ptsd e.t.c. There were a few cases in which non mentally ill or disturbed patients were admitted,for no other reason other than their sexuality. These places weren't heaven,this bullshit is all just a front for crappy treatment.
No such thing as shock treatments it's only in the movies make up stories of CIA actors doctors and it's staff CIA are smart asses they do hypnosis satanism instant sleep to search you
These people are sick they team up with CIA actors Really some patients don't come out ??? Investigate CIA scare of a patients muscles law suits so they keep them lock Wow so sad
Man if I somehow got thrown back into the 1950's and knew I was headed for the nut house, this kid would quickly be looking for a big swan dive from the nearest high rise.
Oh absolutely..and may I remind the rest of you that willowbrook wasn’t even a mental hospital per se? Rather it was advertised as a “state school” for the disabled-more like a massive, industrialized group home. People would do nothing all day. No stimulation whatsoever.
I've been where that guy is...well,not *exactly* where he is,bc i live in Alabama, but i know the fear,the feeling of betrayal i had at age 15 when my parents had no other choice but to admit me to a psych hospital for my own good. Undiagnosed PTSD from CSA,along with what we would now call Bipolar Affectative Disorder and Panic Attacks were my diagnosis. As much as i hated and resented my parents for putting me there, once i quit being a knucklehead, staff was able to help me get my life back. Now,i'm 45,and working in college towards my Clinical Mental Health Therapist degree,specializing in Childhood Trauma. I want to at least intern at the facility that saved my life.
Been in and out of hospital since I was 13 years of age now 33 and this is really scary because we all feel like this will be are home someday …. Terrifying
Actually I found a link from the Oklahoman with more information about it if anyone else is curious. oklahoman.com/article/5364099/tbt-mental-hospital-shows-life-inside-1950s-oklahoma-facility
@@Mike-wt2xs Thanks for sharing the article from the Oklahoman. I originally uploaded the video from UA-cam and asked my students to watch it and discuss in a course I teach. At some point, I discovered that the original post was removed, so I uploaded it for students to view. You will see credits at the beginning and end of the video that show you where it came from.
I had spinal fliud removed because my body produced too much and it caused pressure on my brain and eyes. If I didn't have it removed I would've died from lack of oxygen in my brain from too much pressure. It's called Cranial Hypertention.
It might be interesting to consider: this video is made by sane persons in an effort to understand what's happening to the insane person (nomenclature out-of-date on my part is purely accidental) in an effort to understand with the hope of curing whatever ails. LSD was used by practitioners and researchers in the psychiatric fields. It wasn't illegal, and didn't have a stigma since it wasn't readily available outside of a clinical setting. LSD was thought to provide insight into scizophrenia (sp?). From the beginning, this video looks like it was produced for a student audience by clinicians who may, or may not have experimented with LSD and are trying to re-create the atmosphere felt, on camera. Weird. I bet it was excellent LSD.
it was a magical new wonder-drug through to have promising cure-all capabilities in the realm of mental health and abnormal psychology. Nothing really bad happened to it until the government in the '70s went "lol no thats ours now," when they made scheduled it a more severe/addictive drug than cocaine. How odd.
the psych hospital i was in when i was 15 had some amazing food. Going down to the cafeteria was a privilige, but even the stuff they sent up on the dumb waiter was amazing
@@lesliearblaster2711 i am so sorry that happened to you. You guys didn't deserve to be treated like that. the ptb at the hospital should feel ashamed of themselves. i hope you're ok now.
@@proud2bpagan I am, by the grace of God. I was 10 years old when they put me in and didn't get out till I was 17. My Parents didn't want me. It took all that time for the hospital to find me a foster home.
Using the broader definition of the term, which means "any method that uses water to treat a variety of symptoms throughout your body," I would say the answer is "yes." For example, if you find swimming, water fall machines, or hot tubs to be therapeutic, then these activities can be considered "hydrotherapy." However, if you're thinking of the practice of spraying patients down with high-pressure hoses, then I do not think that anyone has been providing such an intervention for decades.
My poor grandma was in these kinda places on and off her whole life she had all these bad things happen to her and was older she had early dementia and I always blamed the mental treatment she had when young her dementia started in her late 30s
My right ear appreciated this and then I seen a comment of someone saying their left ear enjoyed this. So I put both AirPods in and it turned the right one off and the sound switched to the left ear. That is weird. First time experiencing that before lol
@@broadkast477 I'm more concerned with the psychopathy exhibited in the people running entire governments and corporations. The narcissism displayed on Tiktok and Twitter are mere symptoms of a leadership with the same traits. They're just mirroring the people running the circus.
Insulin shock therapy and electroshock therapy were state of the art treatments for schizophrenia in 1953. Some day, we’ll think of chemotherapy as now of ECT, insulin shock, lobotomy. I knew a lady who tried electroshock for intractable depression. It hadn’t responded to the medications then available. The only one that sort of “worked” was Valium, but it made her sleepy and too out of it to be functional. After all, it’s a benzodiazepine, a tranquilizer! She took a series of shock treatments in a private mental hospital and was gradually able to return to normal life. In her case, it started as a very bad case of postpartum depression with what she knew were delusions. She “saw” things as if in a dream while awake, but knew they weren’t real. Why the ECT worked, nobody really knows.
Currently in Oregon State Psychopathic Institue. I’m about to graduate with a PhD in ‘Hyper Violent Evisceration’ and a Masters degree in ‘Messianic Disposition Syndrome’ I had extremely HIGH marks in Religious Mystical Experience. Yup, it’s Wicked Ass!
1910's to the 1970's were the developmental era of medicine. We discovered how the human body works greatly. If it wasn't for these poor peoples sacrifice. We wouldnt have the medicine, treatments and technology we do today. Sad, but its very true.
@@meeksde No what was communicated, very clearly, is that while this treatment is sad and horrific to you and I in 2021, during the time of this videos production they were using the best technologies and best practices known. To jump the shark and immediately violate Godwins law by bringing up Hitler is repulsive. Nothing Hitler authorized was intended to try and assist patients being tested. Its easy to be virtuous about a time you've clearly not studied and likely didn't live through but it would be more appropriate to withhold judgement when you lack the reason and rationality to do so.
@@willsweat5413 Notice that I was not responding to YOU. These poor peoples “sacrifice” (as @bigazzham suggests) was not a sacrifice, it was experiments done on humans without consent ... much like “experiments” conducted on humans by in nazi death camps. I wonder where he got the idea.... after all, he did enjoy reading some of Margaret Sanger and other American eugenics works. Go ahead. Use more of your high powered philosophical jumbo jumbo to justify your agreement for such American experiments.
Pretty interesting. Kinda sad that it sounds so nice, but those places weren't that nice. At least we can say we've come a long way since then. Although I don't know why they still use electro shock therapy...
Speaking as a retired UK psychiatrist I think we have lost a huge amount by abandoning these therapeutic communities. Of course we are held back by a common enemy. MANAGEMENT !
Sometimes a whole family after being labelled disfunctional could become subjected to surveillance beginning during the 1960's without their consent. The assistants in that program would then have to offer costly 'free' programs to members of that family while those assistants were being paid far less than they deserved. Those assistants were only doing what any caring biological mother does when at home with an infant. Why the surveillance?
I think films like this were intended as a mercy to alleviate the guilt and sadness of people who put those they loved but could not care for into institutions. And also probably to advertise their services to doctors, hospitals, etc.
One of my great-grandmothers suffered from what we'd probably now call PTSD. She was a World War II refugee. They lost everything, including two babies. She couldn't work anymore by the time they got to the USA, so the doctors here suggested shock therapy for her depression and panic attacks. When that didn't work, they lobotomized her. She became childlike and spent 25 years in a place like this. My grandma had four babies herself and couldn't take care of her mother, who needed around the clock care and supervision. The guilt from that haunted my grandma all her life. The nice old 50s weren't always so nice. Love you, Granny. ❤️ You didn't know. You did your best.
They still give electric shock, but now call it ECT and would still lobotomize if they could .
😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
They gave her exactly what she did not need !
Sometimes life can be so, so cruel.
Becareful of karma bud don't say things like that anymore
In the 70s we had at our junior school, an old chap who used to walk the school grounds, cut the grass and paint white lines on the playing field. He had a younger brother who was the school janitor. I once over heard the janitor tell the school principal that “ my brothers been away and had that electro shock treatment” that always stuck in my mind. I felt sorry for him afterwards
It really is horrible. Unfortunately, the “treatment” is still used today.
😢😢 so sad is a sad word we live in
@@dewilew2137 ECT works really well and I would have it again, if it was offered.
My mom had that same treatment in the 1980s. I was only 3 or 5. She told me how they did it and basically treated them like cattle. The Dr used my mom as a guinea pig. My mom's Dr passed away a few weeks ago. There was a big article in the paper that his interests were, especially in pharmacology with the brain. 😢 My mom finally got better after 10 years. She was sick when I was 1 until I was 10. Thankfully, my grandmother helped raise me. My dad traveled a lot as a chemical engineer.
@invisibleenby8121, it might now. But it was barbaric in State Hospitals and even private in the 80s and before that.
Thanks my left ear really enjoyed this.
I know right lol
Hahaha very clever!
Old recording, done in mono.
Fuck yeah I was thinking the same thing
Now I totally understand this comment....
I was put into a psych-ward after a severe depressive episode. I was put on hold for 3 days. I was extremely depressed, it was horrible (the way I felt).
I didn't belong in a psych-ward, the staff was fantastic BUT I was sooooo scared. I felt like I was never going to get out, I had no family so I didn't get visits and I was too embarrassed to tell the few close friends I had.
I thought they would see that no one was visiting me and think that I was crazy. I thought they would see me go into my room and cry because I was lonely and think I was crazy. I have very thick hair for a guy and it looked a mess after a day, I thought they would leave me there because of my appearance. I would walk around the ward all day as I was so bored and would get scared because I thought they would think I was crazy for doing this.
I almost lost my job (I had a high position at a large corporation) - I called in but I NEVER called in for 7 years straight.
Again, the staff was very good and I am thankful for them BUT I was surprised that I could be forced there and that it would be for 3 days - I am still upset about that.
Ultimately during that phase in life, I had addiction issues, horrible depression - I lost 3 people close to me and my GF left me suddenly. In the end, I got fired, I lost my condo and a lot of my retirement. All I have is my 15 year old dachshund - I've done odd jobs but I have yet to regain full time employment (it's been 10 months!) - I actually get the line "you're overqualified" - I hate that. I don't know if I will ever or want to climb the corporate chain again. I want a paycheck, healthcare and a 401k - I miss that. I'm 45 and I'm starting all over again. It's so weird.
🙏🙏❤️❤️
keep your chin up---i was not depressed enough to qualify for an institutional setting but i sure felt despondent. you can nearly always build yourself up again but maybe take a lesser position. i also have addiction issues and abuse shit from my past. and it takes time to find a job, maybe God is protecting you from unnecessary stress and ppls bs right now. take care and dont be so hard on yourself.
401k! what job do you have?
@@jennydoucette2538 thank you Jenny! 8 months later and I have a job! I can’t say I’m stable quite yet but I’ve met some new really great friends. I appreciate the comment, it was very sweet.
@@Initium1000 youre welcome!
@6:51 the "competent medical examiners" just shine a flashlight in a guy's eye and nod to each like "Yep those are dead eyes. Send him to the snake pit"
Can’t imagine what really went on behind closed doors for real!! After that video they took. They made it look like Disney Land!!!
Still going on everywhere
Very interesting video. It must be remembered that psychiatry was still in its infancy back then, and schizophrenia was new territory as far as drug therapy went. Insulin-shock was common treatment for it. Electroshock therapy was used for manic depression (bipolar disorder), and lithium was added later when it was shown to be effective for treating manic episodes.
The first ever antipsychotic medication, chlorpromazine, was introduced barely a year before this video, in 1952.
It's still in its infancy, and though our methods are more refined, they are more directed at profiteering, too. Cognitive behavioral therapy and hypnosis are the keys to the mind, but we prefer pumping pills into people, because it's what keeps the pockets lined.
My mother was experimented on with Lithium and electroshock and a host of other meds. 20 meds a day. Thankfully she became well 10 years later.
It's still in its infancy. The field of psychiatry and diagnosis is nothing more than pseudo science and anecdotal, experimental care. It's a revenue machine.
@@manictiger that's a very simplistic way of looking at it. if you were a mental health professional, you'd realize how many people go into offices demanding some kind of pill--and this is a big reason why peregrination is such a problem these days.
eventually some doctor will give them what they demand.
believe me, most doctors tell people the same thing about antidepressants and other pills what they tell them about antibiotics: "i don't want to give you amoxicillin, your son has the flu, antibiotics won't help him." but still they demand SOMETHING. some doctors just get jaded and say fine, here, take a pill. same thing with head drugs--they demand some pill that they say on the internet, or in a TV commercial.
step one: eliminate drug advertising the same way we eliminated tobacco ads. or severely curtail them like alcohol advertising is strictly monitored and governed. nobody should say "hey, that pill sounds good, let me get that". this shit is dangerous, but they don't make that clear in commercials. this isn't diet soda. they're literally drugs.
plenty of people threaten legal action if you "refuse care" these days. we could sit and discuss the insane rise of malpractice premiums and reduced coverage these days vs. 50 years ago, but that's not something most regular people think about or care about.
My doctor had told me I had a bad case of nerves and suggested smoking menthol cigarettes. 60 years later, I still do. I
your kidding?
Come up come up come all the way up
With kool menthols cigarettes.
You either was real seriously sick.i don't no about no docter advise cigarettes man.clog your arteries up.
Thank you for uploading this. I really enjoyed this.
i'm so terrified that if i was born back then this could've been my reality
Why?
Now imagine if u were black.look up cherry hospital nc
ua-cam.com/video/YC5AU68y8N0/v-deo.html
@@meeksde what do you mean why, the world was more cruel and not as open minded as it is now. Times are different.
@@Berked2Hard
But she wasn’t born back then. The point is moot.
"A cigarette from the Doctor." 😂😂😂😂😂
Dr said.." why do you think they're doing you this way?" And I died!!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I believe this was filmed at Griffin Memorial Hospital, formerly Central State Hospital, in Norman, Oklahoma.
It was probably own by a rich actor to unmask these CIA actors doctors
Makes me wonder how many scenes on this movie were acted and how many were real.
Fake everything
In a mental institution patients are busy doing activities sleeping others under hypnosis satanism sleep like the new patients. The CIA doctors and staff are cover scare of new patients their cover in glass do they have to hypnosis them to steal credit cards
So they staff CIA have to put new patients under hypnosis to search their wallets clothes of patients for botanicas
Did some research on the insulin shock therapy, very interesting because I hadn't heard about it at all. I read that after a high dose of insulin patients would slip into a somewhat of a "controlled coma" and some psychiatrists would purposely give these patients seizures they were thought to be therapeutic? Weird stuff.
Nah beutys sick patients will get 50 million dollar small dose cost
I can’t imagine something more horrifying then a psychological asylum during the 50s
Couldn't agree more.
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They were called lunatic asylums, they should have not closed them down in the 1980s ..The repulsive woke world that people tolerate now is possible worse than anytime in human history ..you talk about the 1950s as if it not better than now !
Living-if-you-could-call-it-that, and dying, on a dirty sidewalk in the slums of some big city, unfed, unhoused, unclean, unfed, constantly tortured by the visions and voices in your head -- if you don't think that that is more horrifying, well, I won't say anything more, because it might prove offensive.
@@johneeeemarry34 Woke has exactly nothing to do with anything, but you just couldn't not take the opportunity to squeeze it in somehow as if it did, could you? The asylums were closed when tax-hating Republicans in state governments, from Caliornia's governor Ronald Reagan on down, wanted to eliminate them as costly budget items, and found that they were somehow on the same side as a 1960s liberal "patients' rights" movement that foolishly dreamed that the released patients and the mentally ill of the future would have fun, nice, healthy "care in the community" paired with the new psychiatric medicines, and intensive psychotherapy. At the same time, they decided the modern civil-rights approach would be to let the very severely mentally ill "be in charge of their own treatment," able to turn down help or stop taking medications at will. Freedom! Aren't you people supposed to be for "Freedom?"
And I don't want to say you are an idiot, but with all due respect, if you seriously argue that the modern world "is possibly worse than anytime in human history," then my friend, you have just said it about yourself. Catch a clue.
17:00 "A cigarette from the doctor, and Fred's hand is steady!" Classic!
Am i the only one who hears audio only on one side?
Nope only my left ear was privileged to hear the narrator lol
Back in the fifties, most movies and short videos were using mono sound only a right or left channel. This film used left channel. Hence your are listing to mono on the left.
" overall most patients are happy " Did he really say that ?? Uggghh lies lies
So many say, they all pretended to be happy and to get out of that hell hole !
Yes some patients not all team up with CIA other normal patients will punch staff and 20 doctors against one patient
Not all patients are evil
They made no reference to, "The Lead Pill Treatment." Wherein a 125grain piece of lead, .357 Thousandths of an inch in diameter, traveling at 1300 feet per second, is directed to travel through the patient's head. Incredibly, the treatment takes only a fraction of a second. As far as the treatments success, patients are unwilling to comment.
that was Walter Freeman ice pick lobotomy
@@wmmatthew83 I can't imagine having an ice pick jammed into my brain.
Mmm... terrifying. Thanks for sharing.
Frightening how clueless they were on mental health treatments. The worst was the electronic shocks.
From the Mayo Clinic website:
“Much of the stigma attached to ECT is based on early treatments in which high doses of electricity were administered without anesthesia, leading to memory loss, fractured bones and other serious side effects.”
Done by force still today ! Total disregard for a persons body and identity.
@@alinalemanska2029ECT is not done by force today.
I've genuinely seen comments from people that have received them and said they helped.
they are an effective treatment actually.
And today the mentally ill are homeless and very hungry so we need a better solution
Nah homeless people busy like they meet with CIA actors doctors planning who to steal
Don't be stupid CIA doctors and homeless people meet together to plan who to steal to shredding the money
CIA doctors have money making machines
“Most of them are happy.” Really? Did they take a survey?
Sick people who team up with CIA to do awful activities
if i lived back then my frontal lobe would be like scrambled eggs
They prob would take a chunk out of it
I wonder how many in this video are actual patients as opposed to actors
I suspect every other patient except for "Fred." In that day and age it was all right to film mental cases for educational purposes. Nowadays a script has to be written and actors hired, to pretend to be mental patients, instead of showing medical students the real thing, which would seem preferable in any such situation. Nowadays it's like they handed a surgery student a plastic heart to practice on and said: "When you get in the OR and do your first heart surgery it'll look like kinda like this!"
@@anthonypearsall5851 I guess for HPAA reasons they have to do that, but it is better for the students to see the real mentally ill
Their probably CIA actors and it's staff karma the next morning
I cannot imagine the horrors.
New patients are search
That theme song...”let my people go....” so eerie!
Bull Street Asylum in the previous video had lots of ‘Happy’ people as well as other horrendous places at that time.
I think they should bring these back.
Nah CIA is busy money hungry searching wallets credit cards
Busy like
Never existed movies lady
they still here just not called asylum anymore
@@wmmatthew83 They're not really though, unless you pay privately. Most mentally ill are in jail nowadays.
What is the name of the hospital
It is Griffin Memorial Hospital, also known as Central State Hospital. It is no longer open, though the building still stands and is boarded up.
It's probably an actors house a movie 🎥 make up stories
Remember that old movie where the guy was in a hospital... he was in the war and he lost his vision. It was really weird I forgot the name!
Could it be Johnny got his gun?
What I want to know is who's George and why is he hanging around Betty so much 🤔
Betty was hot. Bet all were wondering.
To unmask the CIA
Probably actors
Wow...that oughta do it. Such a sad looking place...
People are busy it's only in the movies
It looks like an actors house to unmask the CIA activities
It's only in the movies
Don't believe in king Kong it's a movie only fiction
Oldschool prapaganda
"Overall most patients are happy"! Why would they have been at the hospital if they had been happy?
maybe the brain numbing drugs
Real Fact (in at least Australia) if you comply completely they tie you down and inject you with heavy drugs, drugs you cant overdose on but cook your mind beyond repair
@J Hemphill ayo idk if you're here with no prior knowledge of how shit worked back then but people used shock therapy and lobotomies to "cure" whatever the fuck was up with the patient,even though in most cases it left them pretty much braindead. Besides that they admitted people with just depression,anxiety or anything else that is more common and just a tad easier to deal with that psychosis,ptsd e.t.c. There were a few cases in which non mentally ill or disturbed patients were admitted,for no other reason other than their sexuality. These places weren't heaven,this bullshit is all just a front for crappy treatment.
Sick people who team up with CIA doctors awful activities
My grandma stayed at St Elizabeth in DC..she was young and it was so sad. She had schizophrenia and epilepsy.. imagine shock treatments..
No such thing as shock treatments it's only in the movies make up stories of CIA actors doctors and it's staff
CIA are smart asses they do hypnosis satanism instant sleep to search you
So many elderly individuals
Were placed in state hospitals
Just to get them out of
The way
It's CIA doctors vs the weak
CIA doctors vs children mind controlling them , women, pregnant woman if they miss an appointment and elderly
This guy was lucky, he got out in 6 months most people go in and don't come out,
ua-cam.com/video/YC5AU68y8N0/v-deo.html
These people are sick they team up with CIA actors
Really some patients don't come out ??? Investigate
CIA scare of a patients muscles law suits so they keep them lock
Wow so sad
Investigate suspicious activities
not really in mouth if you don't code only ones don't come out is because they don't want to leave
This is a bleak, but very interesting peek into mental health's past. Thanks for sharing, Dr. Norton.
Are you one of the CIA team
@@teresacastillo1783 I'd tell you, but...
Man if I somehow got thrown back into the 1950's and knew I was headed for the nut house, this kid would quickly be looking for a big swan dive from the nearest high rise.
Except there were no high rises then 😄
If you think this is propaganda go look up what happened at Willowbrook😭
Absolutely! Horrible!
Oh absolutely..and may I remind the rest of you that willowbrook wasn’t even a mental hospital per se? Rather it was advertised as a “state school” for the disabled-more like a massive, industrialized group home. People would do nothing all day. No stimulation whatsoever.
This could be me right now those me into a hospital because reality I just can't take it no more.
I’m with you
Wait...Fred was prescribed with what!? Insulin shock can kill you!
Yes, that was a kind of therapy. Insulin shock therapy
And so can radiation and pumping chemicals into your veins, but they’ve become the standard treatments for cancer.
CIA doctors are not stupid to give insulin shock to people they could lose their job
Ya watch too many cow boy movies
dang,they were thorough with that intake exam back in the day. we never had to have a spinal tap.
Why the spinal fluid test?
same reasons they did a blood test
I am partially deaf. I only really hear in mono sound. not stereo. Sound so the monotone sound is great 👍
I've been where that guy is...well,not *exactly* where he is,bc i live in Alabama, but i know the fear,the feeling of betrayal i had at age 15 when my parents had no other choice but to admit me to a psych hospital for my own good. Undiagnosed PTSD from CSA,along with what we would now call Bipolar Affectative Disorder and Panic Attacks were my diagnosis. As much as i hated and resented my parents for putting me there, once i quit being a knucklehead, staff was able to help me get my life back. Now,i'm 45,and working in college towards my Clinical Mental Health Therapist degree,specializing in Childhood Trauma. I want to at least intern at the facility that saved my life.
It’s a shame the hospitals in his day were made to torture and not help.
Been in and out of hospital since I was 13 years of age now 33 and this is really scary because we all feel like this will be are home someday …. Terrifying
This is a great video; does anyone have a citation for it or more sources on where it is from?
Actually I found a link from the Oklahoman with more information about it if anyone else is curious.
oklahoman.com/article/5364099/tbt-mental-hospital-shows-life-inside-1950s-oklahoma-facility
@@Mike-wt2xs Thanks for sharing the article from the Oklahoman. I originally uploaded the video from UA-cam and asked my students to watch it and discuss in a course I teach. At some point, I discovered that the original post was removed, so I uploaded it for students to view. You will see credits at the beginning and end of the video that show you where it came from.
great for Hannibal Lecter
Hollywood mole Richardson
Why Were they Taking Spinal Fluid??
Kinda Barbaric.
The only reason to check spinal fluid to check for Meningitis.
I had spinal fliud removed because my body produced too much and it caused pressure on my brain and eyes. If I didn't have it removed I would've died from lack of oxygen in my brain from too much pressure. It's called Cranial Hypertention.
gatorade eucharist
Don't believe everything you hear like spinal fluid make up stories of CIA and it's staff their not stupid to lose their job
you know everything is great when you get a cigarette from the doctor!
Seems like you go in there, and Become Crazier.
Is this a reenactment?
I live in Oklahoma and never heard about this???
I live in Oklahoma too and I've never heard of it either.
The guy who was signing himself in for "15 days" - the form said "Central State, Norman, Oklahoma". I wonder if it is still here?? I'm in Norman now!
Griffin Memorial Hospital??
@@anneroberts3391 that shit would be crazy!!!!
It might be interesting to consider: this video is made by sane persons in an effort to understand what's happening to the insane person (nomenclature out-of-date on my part is purely accidental) in an effort to understand with the hope of curing whatever ails.
LSD was used by practitioners and researchers in the psychiatric fields. It wasn't illegal, and didn't have a stigma since it wasn't readily available outside of a clinical setting. LSD was thought to provide insight into scizophrenia (sp?).
From the beginning, this video looks like it was produced for a student audience by clinicians who may, or may not have experimented with LSD and are trying to re-create the atmosphere felt, on camera.
Weird.
I bet it was excellent LSD.
yeah. probably the best. legendary .
it was a magical new wonder-drug through to have promising cure-all capabilities in the realm of mental health and abnormal psychology. Nothing really bad happened to it until the government in the '70s went "lol no thats ours now," when they made scheduled it a more severe/addictive drug than cocaine. How odd.
I thought something was wrong with my phone until I read someone’s comment about the left ear lmao
And the Dr. Gives fred a cigarette! Now thats crazy
Right, should have been a joint.
Not if Fred was a smoker..it would be logical and kind.
Ohhhhhhhh, if only that was the way it really was!
the psych hospital i was in when i was 15 had some amazing food. Going down to the cafeteria was a privilige, but even the stuff they sent up on the dumb waiter was amazing
You were blessed. I know a place in Ohio.....bugs in the salad, cigarette butts in the soup, powdered eggs, powdered milk, yikes!
@@lesliearblaster2711 i am so sorry that happened to you. You guys didn't deserve to be treated like that. the ptb at the hospital should feel ashamed of themselves. i hope you're ok now.
@@proud2bpagan I am, by the grace of God. I was 10 years old when they put me in and didn't get out till I was 17. My Parents didn't want me. It took all that time for the hospital to find me a foster home.
Does anyone know if hydrotherapy is still used today?
Using the broader definition of the term, which means "any method that uses water to treat a variety of symptoms throughout your body," I would say the answer is "yes." For example, if you find swimming, water fall machines, or hot tubs to be therapeutic, then these activities can be considered "hydrotherapy." However, if you're thinking of the practice of spraying patients down with high-pressure hoses, then I do not think that anyone has been providing such an intervention for decades.
@@AaronNortonThank you. Thank you for uploading this
Forced Insulin Shock?? Good lord. Also I don't think ANYONE would miss being at a mental hospital...
thanks dr aaron
They never let them out.
Yeah they knew too much
The vintage background music is so eerie. Jumping from happy to abysmal
"A cigarette from the doctor, and Fred's hand is steadied!"
Made that shit sound awesome didn't they???!!!!!!
what aweful places these were,bloody hell.
Draconian treatment that didn’t even work
This is fucking creepy, why did I search this up
Scare of sick patients are you a CIA staff hiding in glass windows ???
CIA doctors are not stupid they hide from patients in glass windows scare
My poor grandma was in these kinda places on and off her whole life she had all these bad things happen to her and was older she had early dementia and I always blamed the mental treatment she had when young her dementia started in her late 30s
At least they don’t have to pay 2000 dollars for a 1 bedroom rent
I know they're showing this to me only. There all in on it. But they won't fool me.
People were locked away in institutions n forgotten about
Sometimes I can't help but wonder how many went there were WW1 and WW2 vets????
How does someone get this on UA-cam lmao
Holy shit nothing like a random spinal tap on admission!
I think they are just checking for things like meningitis which can affect brain activity.
@@patriciaroysdon9540 yeah, it will cause a phycotic problem, by a conventional means
My right ear appreciated this and then I seen a comment of someone saying their left ear enjoyed this. So I put both AirPods in and it turned the right one off and the sound switched to the left ear. That is weird. First time experiencing that before lol
Oh, a lake for fishing!
Bettys got some knockers!
We are in dire need of reopening these asylums.
Yes, without the abuse.
ASAP
So many undiagnosed patients on tiktok amd Twitter. Sad times we live in.
@@broadkast477
I'm more concerned with the psychopathy exhibited in the people running entire governments and corporations. The narcissism displayed on Tiktok and Twitter are mere symptoms of a leadership with the same traits. They're just mirroring the people running the circus.
Why do you say that?
Insulin shock therapy and electroshock therapy were state of the art treatments for schizophrenia in 1953. Some day, we’ll think of chemotherapy as now of ECT, insulin shock, lobotomy. I knew a lady who tried electroshock for intractable depression. It hadn’t responded to the medications then available. The only one that sort of “worked” was Valium, but it made her sleepy and too out of it to be functional. After all, it’s a benzodiazepine, a tranquilizer! She took a series of shock treatments in a private mental hospital and was gradually able to return to normal life. In her case, it started as a very bad case of postpartum depression with what she knew were delusions. She “saw” things as if in a dream while awake, but knew they weren’t real. Why the ECT worked, nobody really knows.
Currently in Oregon State Psychopathic Institue. I’m about to graduate with a PhD in ‘Hyper Violent Evisceration’ and a Masters degree in ‘Messianic Disposition Syndrome’ I had extremely HIGH marks in Religious Mystical Experience.
Yup, it’s Wicked Ass!
Wait.... what do you have a PhD in???????? 😳😂
Yes
This is torture
1910's to the 1970's were the developmental era of medicine. We discovered how the human body works greatly. If it wasn't for these poor peoples sacrifice. We wouldnt have the medicine, treatments and technology we do today. Sad, but its very true.
@@Bigazzham
So you’re saying Hitler’s death camp doctors had it right?
@@meeksde No what was communicated, very clearly, is that while this treatment is sad and horrific to you and I in 2021, during the time of this videos production they were using the best technologies and best practices known. To jump the shark and immediately violate Godwins law by bringing up Hitler is repulsive. Nothing Hitler authorized was intended to try and assist patients being tested. Its easy to be virtuous about a time you've clearly not studied and likely didn't live through but it would be more appropriate to withhold judgement when you lack the reason and rationality to do so.
@@willsweat5413
Notice that I was not responding to YOU. These poor peoples “sacrifice” (as @bigazzham suggests) was not a sacrifice, it was experiments done on humans without consent ... much like “experiments” conducted on humans by in nazi death camps.
I wonder where he got the idea.... after all, he did enjoy reading some of Margaret Sanger and other American eugenics works.
Go ahead. Use more of your high powered philosophical jumbo jumbo to justify your agreement for such American experiments.
@@meeksde yes
Pretty interesting. Kinda sad that it sounds so nice, but those places weren't that nice. At least we can say we've come a long way since then. Although I don't know why they still use electro shock therapy...
Speaking as a retired UK psychiatrist I think we have lost a huge amount by abandoning these therapeutic communities.
Of course we are held back by a common enemy. MANAGEMENT !
Not sure the majority of patients would agree with you there!
@@katieh9986 We're not much better today, putting them in jails when they're in crisis.
Bring it back dr.Aaron we miss your ravioli 😂
A handful of Magic Mushrooms or 250 micrograms of LSD should do the trick! 😄👍🍄
I find it all very fascinating
That lady at 12:17 is my mom.
I thought I was going deaf in my left ear watching this with headphones 😭
Lol so woulda been there back in the day
Sometimes a whole family after being labelled disfunctional could become subjected to surveillance beginning during the 1960's without their consent. The assistants in that program would then have to offer costly 'free' programs to members of that family while those assistants were being paid far less than they deserved. Those assistants were only doing what any caring biological mother does when at home with an infant. Why the surveillance?
I understand the dark stage. Right meds turned the world as I saw it brighter. I mean the air was brighter per day
Ah, the 40s and 50s...
If it were print on a page or public service propaganda it was like God's voice from heaven...everyone ate it up.
Two fantastic decades… 2000 - 2020 will be remembered as the spring board for the worst time in human history..
Wow, we really knew nothing about mental illness back then
They closed these places during the regean admin, now we have to deal with them. Yeah make friends sure, naw, gonna be more bodies on the street....
Many other factors
so they basically committed false advertising?
I think films like this were intended as a mercy to alleviate the guilt and sadness of people who put those they loved but could not care for into institutions. And also probably to advertise their services to doctors, hospitals, etc.
Tuesday is lobotomy day... Followed by ice-cream.