Right? Imagine if OP had come home to that. It's amazing that with the 1 night outside she didn't suffer negative effects. OP's parents probably should have taken her to the hospital for a check over and made sure the police & CPS were alerted. It's terrifying how neglectful her mother was and that she is still blaming OP over it. The little girl might be too young to really remember it, but there will no doubt be an internalised fear of abandonment that she won't necessarily know the origins of. It's amazing she survived, and OP's parents coming by did likely save her life because 3 days without fluids for a baby that small...that would most likely have resulted in death or severe brain damage. And that isn't even accounting for the possibility of wildlife, or exposure/heat stroke (depending on the weather/area, could even be both), etc. My heart breaks at what she must have gone through even in just that amount of time. If she has done that this time, she has likely left her home alone before...or will in the future.
@@gothic_ace2037yeah i was really afraid the poor baby would have been deceased. maybe because i have my own baby niece i see often and it made me feel more protective but i was just sitting in shock anger and fear while click had to try and keep cool, awkwardly laughing through. i hope the cousin gets arrested if this story is real, but also just to think this is something that does happen in real life is terrifying.
@@hawkeyescoffee6399 yes, it's absolutely insane. that's the single thing that could have gone SO wrong. they should be relieved that the girl is alive.
@@hawkeyescoffee6399 yeah, OPs parents should've taken her to the hospital and reported the mother for child abuse, not called the mother to come get her kid.
@@ilanarhian the parents being lucky in this case means the kid is extremly unlucky, because otherwise someone official would have had to enter and protect the child.
As someone who has lost two babies, the "have katie replace the daughter they lost" is just beyond f'd up. For so many reasons. And its not going to help the grief, they'd be messing with the kiddo's emotions and psyche for no reason.
Been there. I can't agree more! Reality may suck sometimes, but there's no use in delusions, and almost always HARM. I hope you are in a good place now.
@@KOKO-uu7yd absolutely agree, and thank you 💜 it's the anniversary of losing my youngest son on the 20th and his ashes were stolen in November so I'm struggling quite a bit at the moment. But his big brother keeps me pushing through 💜. Kiddo tells everyone he meets about baby brother. I'm so sorry you've been there as well, I hope peace has become a bit easier since the loss 🫂
The Gabriella story was insane. I thought the wife maybe suffered from a mental illness, but I definitely wasn't expecting to hear that Jeff wanted to give his wife a biological ghost child. Wtf that is NOT how you cope.
I think Jeff doesn't want to take care of anyone or anything. His wife has a trauma: quick fix: pretend Gabriella never died so Jeff doesn't need to deal with it.
I had already heard that story before. It gets even worse than that. The other mother becomes a stalker and actually even tries to kidnap the child at some point. It's really wild
@@brodericksiz625 I still blame Jeff i wonder how much forcing and maniplation he did to convice her that it was the dead child. Also encouraging that behaviour is so bad
The entire story is crazy. There's 2 more updates after the ones here, one where a priest was sent to OP and then the most recent update which was 19 hours ago. In the last update it turns out that Jeff actually killed the other child (He shook her to death, she had colic) and his wife actually did the gameovering.
One of my aunts sued her son's girlfriend to make her lose custody of their toddler daughter. Why? The girlfriend didn't want to subject the child to a cosmetic surgery to remove a birthmark. They talked to doctors, the birthmark wasn't something that'd impact the child's health in any way.
How is that a problem for the child If anything a birthmark is very cute , i had a huge birthmark on my forehead until went through puberty Everytime i bragged that my birthmark was because my stoopid baby self just slammed his head on the floor 😂
And OP said “infant”. The kid was a baby. Three days without food or water is extremely harmful for adults… god only knows how bad it would be for a baby
Therapist and mandated reporter here. Can confirm. Negligence and neglect are absolutely abuse, and can be legally charged as such. That poor child isn't safe with its mother.
With the first one, at least in the US (Not sure where this was), leaving a kid in an area where they are alone without anyone there, even if you intend to return, is a form of child abandonment and will lose you custody of the child and get you a hefty prison sentence
The baby was only there for one night, but they are extremely lucky no wild animals came along. I would never leave my child without knowing with absolute certainty they were safe and in good hands.
20:26 The worst part about this story is while everyone knows that this is obviously awful for the child- Using an _actual child_ as a way to treat her psychological problem is _so unethical and will cause her further harm._ People with these delusions are typically given _dolls_ to regulate themselves, that’s what he needs to give her, not a _real child._
Jeff is just a f**ktard with zero parental instincts and got with a psychotic family that see children as objects. The problems with his family is his own to deal with, not OP and her daughter. At this point, OP should file a restraining order against him and that crazy family.
That post was the set up of a horror movie. The child growing up and finding out they were kidnapped from their original family, because their "mother" lost her own kid and couldn't live with that reality. Not to mention it makes me think of animals in the wild like lions who will kidnap children that aren't their own. Humans really are still just animals aren't we?
In this story i feel sorry the for the mother who lost her child. She is clearly not mentally well and instead of helping. That disguisting family is trying to kidnap a child from its own mother and basically then give trauma to someone else. That husband/father is insane.
@@elaexplorer I think they have toddler reborn dolls too, they just cost a lot. Though in this case, this lady is literally looking at a 6 year old that looks nothing like the other child and is still "seeing" her child. Therefore she's delulu enough that they could get a reborn baby that looked just like Gabby and it would most likely work. Hell they can even get one with a heartbeat machine inserted.
I hate when parents use the 'I gave birth to you' card as if we asked to be born. My life up until the past few years has been nothing but trauma, I was suicidal for over 8 years before actually trying to take my own life. I didn't succeed thanks to my mom and I'm grateful now that my life is better. But my abusive man-child father used to to use that excuse ALL. THE! TIME!!! And my only thought as a teen and child would be: "I never asked to be born and if you hate me so much, why didn't you just abort me?" I never said it, but I often wished I had been aborted because of my trauma.
I think you should actualy tell them that. If these people who should have been parents to you made you suffer; either they have a concience and it will make them feel terrible (well deserved), or they don't have any and that's how you will find out. But If you are already no contact with them it is probably bether that way. I can't imagine what you have been through. I wish you a bright and beautiful future.
Honestly, as a young adult who’s gone through trauma with a shit father like that, I get you, and wish you the best in life. Things will get better, you’ll find a support network of people who care and love you.
My mother had that same sense of ownership over my body. She's had an uncountable number of meltdowns over it, constantly violated my boundaries, had no sense of privacy, and somehow made all *my* problems about herself. She treated me like her own personal dress-up doll. Let's just say that coming out as trans didn't go well, lol.
Yep, my parents think they can dictate what medical procedures I get "because we are your parents". Yeah, shocked Pikachu face when they tried calling one of my doctor's and the office wouldn't even say I was a patient. They threw a fit and tried to pull the "but it's my insurance" line (I was on their insurance when they tried this), but got nothing. So they called me up and demanded I sign the forms that let them talk to my doctor's. Yeah, no. So when I had my hysterectomy (for medical reasons no less, the gender reasons were just a bonus) I just told the hospital the only person who should be let in to see me is my partner who is currently holding my hand, otherwise don't even say I'm a patient.
@@waffles3629 You don't have to, but could you tell me how old you were when you had the hysterectomy? I want one as soon as possible.. but I have to wait a long time and there's a lot of down sides to it. I'm thinking of a tubal ligation but that's pretty much the same as taking the Pill. Sigh.
@@AmieMorley-st6tz I was mid 20s, and it took 4 doctors, seven years of searching, and two traumatic experiences resulting in PTSD. Sadly that makes me lucky. Oh, and I'm trans, so that should've made some things a bit easier to convince doctors on, but alas, no. My only suggestion (since odds are you live nowhere near me so my doctor probably wouldn't work) would be to look for queer friendly doctors (even if you aren't queer yourself), because they tend to be less likely to be shitty about it. Feel free to ask any other questions you have (well aside from the trauma parts obviously). The extra sad bit is I had medical reasons to need one. My blood counts were frequently 1% above blood transfusion levels, and my cramps were so bad I passed out and the only things that could touch it were narcotics. Recovery was about as painful as an average period for me for the first 1-2 days, and then a mild period after that. Even walking my surgical site into a table less than 24 hours out was just like "Well that was highly unpleasant". I actually had a kick a nurse out of my room at a post-op appointment because she started a freaking argument with me when she said "Recover is like a really really bad period" and I was like "No, it's like a mild period for me". And she had the audacity to "correct" me (in the same tone of voice you use for a toddler trying to eat the sidewalk, and I'm pretty sure she was younger than me) that *"Surgery* is more painful than *periods".* Like it should be, but wasn't for me.
@waffles3629 I’m glad we have men like you out there adding a little balance of against the kind who want to control all people with a certain body type, and the traitors who go along with them. Sorry, I’m just over here dealing with my rage at Kaitlyn Jenner and Ben Shapiro… Traitors, both of them! Feeding the enemy!
The lady with the daughter whose biological dad was tryna get her to be therapy for his wife made an update: The wife died, self-inflicted. The woman's parents also claimed Jeff killed their baby by shaking her and blamed it on SIDS. Horrible all around.
Dear gods... I don't often use the word monster, but it's warranted here. My heart already went out to the grieving wife, but now I have to wonder if he outright drove her to it. OP is right to keep her daughter far, FAR away from him.
the last one is even worse if you think through it if the mother would get full custody and that girl grows up there, she would likely fall victim to the same things when she is at the same age, so that woman is basically providing her husband a new victim
@@AIHumanEquality sadly Christians and Catholics do essentially think that. they think everyone is born full of sin, and they have to redeem themselves asap.
Unfortunately some people don't choose to have kids but end up with them because of circumstances. That being said, most parents do choose to have kids, and even if you didn't choose it, they're still your responsibility unless you surrender custody to someone else
The one with the cousin who left their kid in a car seat was horrible!! I would guess the kid was maxim 6 months old because - definitely not more than 9 based on the fact that were still small enough for the kind of car seat that can be carried. Car seats for toddlers don't have a handle for carrying, they stay in the car. Also because OP said "infant". That poor poor child. What a horrible mother!
On the story with Jeff: there's updates and one as recent as yesterday. Jeff hired a priest and sent them to OP's work, claiming Jeff was a "Godly man" and that op was not fit to raise the daughter. Op said that the daughter was safe and her personal affairs are none of his business and asked him to leave. Priest said he'd come back when she's not hysterical. OP told the secretary he's not allowed back there. OP did talk to the bishop and said they wouldn't bother her again and was apologetic. The story gets worse and pretty sad, but does have some good news. Jeff dropped the case. OP and her lawyer checked to make sure it wasn't a legal trap, and thankfully it wasn't. Both sides agreed. Her daughter is safe and the godparents help in taking the daughter to and from school, and OP is looking to move closer to the godparents and found a spot. By chance she ran into the wife's parents and they asked to talk. She hesitated but agreed to buy them a coffee. The in-laws apologize and said Jeff lied and convinced them that OP would agree to that arrangement. Jeff lied about A LOT, saying he was godly, and that he asked OP to marry but that she refused and was only after his money. It was obviously not true and OP stated in the past a lot that she never wanted to get married or want his money so that lie whent no where. The in-laws then said their daughter passed away, and that it was self-inflicted. The poor woman clearly needed help, but instead of that, Jeff tried to use OP's kid to pretend like nothing happened. The worst part was Jeff who lied about how the the baby passed on. The baby was colic, which means they cry nonstop, and Jeff shook the baby, which was the actual cause. Its so messed up. The conversation with the in-laws went well and they gave OP a picture of the baby to have, that she stated she'd save to tell her daughter about her half-sister, and even visit them at the cemetary when things calm down. OP relayed that information to her lawyer, who scolded her for doing it alone, but understood why. People are probably wondering why Jeff wouldn't be charged with murder, but OP said that where they're from, if you have enough money, a bribery goes a long way and its very likely he got away with it. The good part to this sad story is that Jeff has no legal ties to OP and her daughter, they have a temporary restraining order and will be going lengths to protect her daughter. She hopes nothing else will happen and her daughter is happy, doing well, and well supported by her awesome mama and godparents. I hope karma makes Jeff's life a living hell. Edit: fixed spelling and grammar
Ah Shaken Baby Syndrome, it’s hard to prosecute because it’s often accidental and a combination of a frail child and bad education on child care. Basically it's hard to prove intent/abuse without other indications.
that poor woman, losing her child like that and then discovering how much your husband’s lied about…i hope she’s reunited with her daughter in the afterlife, and karma’s gonna get jeff one of these days
Most of the time when I find toddlers with squeaky shoes it's because they like to escape and sneak away. So the squeaky shoes make it easier for you to find them.
Same reason I'd dress my youngest two in very bright overcoats or shirts when they were toddlers. They were runners. My youngest was the worst and had a nuts fascination with bolting to the nearest road every chance she got. She was very quick too. I am amazed she's survived to 13 😅
For my kid I put him in a book bag with a leash because most of the time he'll stay right next to me. But if he would try to dart I could just step on the leash. The weirdo won't let me put the leash down. If he sees I'm not holding it he yells and hands it back to me!XD
I was a leash kid. Very neurodivergent, nonverbal, hated being picked up, and very highly sensory seeking. I find it a little funny when people go on long tangents about how unethical it is to have a kid on a leash. Until they learn that the number 1 cause of death for children with autism is elopement.
Every big event with crowds I attended as a child, my folks would get me one of those fun foil balloons. Was a win-win: I got a balloon, they got to see where I was by hunting for the balloon.
That “wants to use my kid as therapy” story is really sad, like, the lady who threw the fit was mentally unwell, and he put her, his kid and the poster through absolute hell because he didn’t want to do the actual best thing and get his wife into therapy. Like I don’t even feel the crazy lady was wrong, perse, cause she was as much a victim of her shitheel husband as anyone was. Like her reaction was insane but she was also experiencing a world destroying level of stress and loss so at least I can rationalize why she behaved the way she did rather than be normal
Also what I was thinking... From her point of view, she just lost her child, and might have learned that her husband had an other biological kid? So he might have cheated on her? If she even knows "Katie" is her husband's other daughter in the first place. This man has serious issues and I'm relieved OP is standing her ground like that.
And what i don't even get is that OP said Jeff was doing well financially. So he could very well afford therapy for his wife! A very good one, even. He could have all the resources at hand to help her recover, but he chooses the unhealthiest possible path... it's plain laziness and irresponsibility at this point.
i am worried that if the father did get his daughter the wife would treat the kid as if it was the lost one, change the kids name, try to gaslight the kid into thinking they are her real parents just do their best in imprinting their dead kid on this living kid
@@airacummins5076 Kids are usually potty trained by the time they're a few years old, disability or neglect notwithstanding. I hope the kid was ok, or that was a typo.
I read the updates. Sadly the wife passed away... self inflicted. Turns out there was plenty reason for the mental issues she seemed to have. Jeff lied. The death wasn't faultless. According to his in-laws, he'd shaken her too hard. He did drop all attempts at getting custody soon after the death of his wife so I don't think we have to worry about the daughter any more. Still, she and OP will be moving. They'll be living closer to the kid's godparents
The mom who left their kid on the doorstep without even confirming someone is home should be in prison.. that's some serious child abandonment/endangerment.. that kid probably would not have survived the whole weekend if OP's parents didn't happen to stop by
@waffles3629 the fact that the mom didn't even consider something might be wrong when OP didn't reply to her original text after like an hour, let alone overnight, is another huge red flag too
@@alfiesmullet1311 yep. Though I did find the post (or one of the updates, not quite sure) and apparently the grandparents did take the baby to the hospital, but she's back home with her mother now while CPS "investigates".
Honestly, the idea that people only want to have kids to satisfy what ever delusional fantasy or power trip is honestly a revolting thing. Why do these people exist?
That's what I was thinking, though I'm surprised they didn't try to abduct his actual daughter first. Maybe she's just too well guarded. They both sound like psychopaths, and OP and her daughter are far better of without either one in their lives.
The arrest was for a drunken brawl. The OP made an update a couple of days ago that she had talked to Jeff's wife's parents and learned that the wife had recently taken her own life, and also that Jeff had killed their baby by shaking her
@@laurelanne5071So not only was the baby's death his fault, this also made his wife kill herself out of grief. Somehow it got worse, Primus damn...I hope that the family and OP are doing alright.
@@zumazuma568 yesterday it reached 110 degrees ferenheight, it's been like that all month, if your in America, it is possible to die of thirst or heat stroke in a single day
There was an entitled parents story about a mother who stole her 23 year old adult offspring 's car to "ground" her. It goes all the way to court. The mom has told everyone it's just her kids being dramatic for being grounded, until the daughter's age is finality brought up. It was so delicious, but I can't find it anywhere now :(
Reminds me of a wild time in my life in my early 20s when my parents took away my phone and told me I was only allowed to use my car (that I was making payments on) to go to work because I was grounded. What for? For breaking up with my boyfriend. Yeah.
Ooo, I think I remember that one. The judge was even siding with the mother thinking the kid was a minor till the kids lawyer said something like "Your honor, my client is 23, she doesn't need permission to use her car". Like you'd think the ages would've been known by the judge beforehand.
The "you can't get a tattoo because I gave birth to you, so I own you" reminds me of my mom with my body hair. I'm a trans man and naturally have thick leg hair, so she forced me to shave constantly growing up. Even now 2 years on T she's having me get waxed for an event :( Edit: grammar
My uncle and aunt lost their three children in an accident he at least seemed somewhat responsible for. My aunt and uncle were psychologically broken beyond recovery. Afterwards they tried to kind of dote on nieces and nephews, working themselves up as some kind of second place parents. It was covertly invasive. The complete extended family started to revolve around their loss. My mom always protected us against this and warned her brothers and sisters and she got a fair amount of strict retorts. Then when we all started to reach the age their children died at, they cut all contact with their 'children' and even expected family get togethers to be solely without nieces and cousins. It kind of blew up the whole family. It is really awful what some people have to live through and they do deserve support and understanding, but be careful not to become collaterally damaged in the process. Broken people can become dangerous themselves.
The story with the Jeff guy. He was taking advantage of both the mother, the child, and his wife. He doesn’t deserve any of them. I hope his wife gets actual help and not be emotionally hurt by that man. I really don’t blame the wife for how she reacted if she was being emotionally manipulated which seemed to be what that guy was going for. As if he wanted a temporary “fix” but his wife cause he couldn’t stand her emotional turmoil. It’s just disgusting all around.
According to other comments I saw, not only did the wife kill herself, but the husband was (allegedly) the reason the kid died. He shook her to death and blamed it on SIDS. He also lied to the mother's family about him being "godly" and proposing to OP when he found out she was pregnant, and basically convinced them his plan would work. He also sent a priest to OP's workplace to tell her Jeff is a "godly man" and she's not fit to raise the kid. Basically he got a woman pregnant and didn't want anything to do with the baby or the mother. Then, he gets a wife and kid, and kills the baby, lies about it, and instead of getting his grieving and mentally unstable wife help, he tries to take his other kid from her mom to use as a therapy doll. When the original mother refuses, he tries to take legal action to take the kid away from her mother fully, despite admitting he doesn't actually care about the kid. His wife still isn't getting help in the meantime and kills herself.
That story about "jeff" wanting to use his "daughter" for lack of a better term, for unhealthy therapy for his now wife. I've heard that, and seeing click read, I'm just like, "hold on, hold on, jeff is worse of person than that"
3:02 I would've kindly reminded her that she and only she is responsible for her child's well being. This is a nice case for child protective services.
The story with 'Katie/Gabrielle', my heart breaks for the other wife. Not only did the husband hide having a child with someone else (even if he's not at all involved in the life, that's still a Pretty Big Secret to Keep), but then after a tragedy and clearly without getting other sufficient psychological help or support, he decides on a wild scheme that can only lead to more psychological trauma for her down the line at some point, and does so without even consulting the writer of the post, leading to an immediate situation of 'her baby' being taken away from her again. I can't fathom how that man convinced his parents (post says 'her in-laws') to go ALONG with that.
I need to do some research but according to a couple comments here, Jeff's wife put an end to everything by her own hand. According to the in laws, Jeff was also responsible for the baby not surviving having shaken it allegedly. If that's true, it makes Jeff way more terrible
That story with the child trying to be used as a tool for therapy is creepy as hell. Idk if it was the woman’s delusions or the fact that the baby daddy genuinely thought anyone would agree to just give up a child so that someone else can pretend it’s their own dead baby. Jesus fucking Christ.
It gets worse I'm afraid. According to another commenter, there's yet another update and the grieving wife committed game over. The wife's parents have also laid blame for the baby's death at his hands because he (allegedly) shook the baby death.
Also the bio father had sent a priest after her who claimed she was not fit to raise the child and that this "Jeff" was a "godly man". That story is a can of worms.
A human adult cannot survive for more than three days without water, I can only imagine how dehydrated that child was by the time they were discovered.
Okay the allergic to ice story is genuinely funny because Im actually "allergic" to ice (cold urticaria). Ive had people tell me that putting on coats was weak and that i was sensitive and my response was to grab ice and rub it on my arm for it to break out
My nephew has the same thing and we live in northern Canada. Winters sucks for him. You have guts triggering your reactions on purpose. I hope it's not too painful for you though or that it doesn't get worse.
My mother had a cold allergie for 2 years, after that it went away. Like really substantial swellings when she got cold.... It is wild what type of allergies exust abd how little we know about them
There is no "too young to even remember it". Not with traumatic experiences. The problem is, that while the kid would be unable to retrieve that memory from that early, or actively remember it, the trauma is emotional and that sticks. There is no "too young to remember it", there's just a "was too young to ever be able to get to the source of the trauma."
1st, a PSA... *clears throat* DO NOT SEND REPTILES VIA MAIL! It's one thing to hand deliver them or use specialized reptile delivery services, but do not send reptiles via usps, ups, FedEx. Reptiles can and have died by using these services they're not intended for living products. Now that that's out of the way, 2nd, the post a out "everybody gets ice in their drink"... I would've just replied "then I guess I'm a nobody, huh?"
@@Serai3 re-watch it. I quote. "A tarantula or a snake or something *laughing*." A snake is a reptile, if you didn't know. And a tarantula is technically an arachnid, yes. It's part of the family Theraphosidae, which is apart from the "true" spiders, the family Araneomorph. I'm an invert and reptile keeper hobbyist and semi-professional. Wanna try again, friend?
@@Serai3 Click mentioned a snake as a joke. Even though he was just being silly, we know people will do stupid things because they heard an idea what they thought was a good one. Thank you synthwolfe8906 for mentioning this!
@@FunkyLittlePoptart I do respect life. I used the term "products" to include plantlife. Additionally, animals, such as reptiles and inverts are products to businesses that sell them. Note that selling and adopting are different terms. Adopting is one owner to another. Selling is a transfer of ownership from a business or entity larger than an individual to an individual. Usually, in adoption, both owners care for the animal. In sales, it's usually only the recipient that genuinely cares about the individual animal. In short, "product" was the appropriate term as it includes not just animals but plants (and other non-animal beings, such as fungus and bacterium), as most owners and adoption sites don't send via mail or standard package delivery. At least, not that I've seen.
The story of the parents disliking the boyfriend with no reason reminded me of another similar story where after many arguments, the parents finally relinquished the information that the gf their son had was actually his half-sister product of an infidelity. I don't think this is the case, though, but it is either utmost powertripping and madness, or a similar dark secret.
For the record. "The kid is too young to remember it" Isn't how it works lol The body remembers. That child will ALWAYS remember being abandoned for three days.
Too true. When I was a toddler I was attacked by a swarm of bees. I nearly died. But I have no memory at all of the incident. I didn't even know about it until my mid-teens. I have always freaked out when a bee was near me; screaming, flailing, you name it. Now I know why. While I can now better control my reactions, I am still very uneasy around them and do not want to be around them at all. Trauma like that is lifelong, even if we were too young to actually remember.
Yep. I had severe medical trauma throughout my childhood & teen years, but could not recall a single incident that would have spurred this on. When I was 20, I found out I’m intersex and had several major cosmetic(!!) surgeries before I was even 2. That’ll do it!
@@Shinigami2c2 I will say that whilst yours is very likely trauma related, there are plenty of people who *weren't* attacked by bees that are scared of them and react the way that you describe. Similar to being scared of spiders. My brother used to freak out a lot, and I believe probably still does if they were to be flying in his general area.
@@hedera1332 I realize that many have a phobia of bees; it's pretty common, along with spiders. However, what I was trying to get at was that the poor child will most likely have abandonment issues as well as food and drink insecurities as a direct result of this incident. While they may be too young to actively remember, they will still instinctively react in this manner and not know why, just like I did (and still do) with bees. If I'm not mistaken, this is a form of PTSD.
Yep, like straight to the ER and then call CPS. Though the hospital might do that for them. No way in hell the mother should've been called to get the kid.
1:58 No, Click, they do have a choice. They can call CPS, because leaving a child at someone's doorstep without prior agreement and without seeing them face-to-face is child-abandonment under the law, if I'm not mistaken. 4:50 This is when the Best Man walks over to that couple and asks them to leave. You don't do that at a wedding.
43:00 100% true that some bullies only speak 'force'. after trying EVERY "proper" strategy for dealing with bullies that were jumping me regularly after school (er... "Jumping" means ambushing in a group with physical violence... idk if that slang from the 90's is part of clicks repertoire) including involving the police (who did nothing because they weren't caught on camera, and it was 4-6 ppls words against my 1 persons' word, and we were all teens, thus untrustworthy in the eyes of the law) I finally found the one and only thing that worked. I physically fought back the next time 4 of them jumped me after school, and won, leaving them all with bloody noses and black eyes, etc. winning a fight 4-on-1 was _extremely_ gratifying, as I'd never felt empowered before in my whole life, _almost_ as gratifying as telling the school admins I had no idea how these 4 teens that were older than me and that I'd already told on for beating me up got hurt... _and they "believed" me!_
I think Click is right on the money at 40:50. Its not the partner the parents have a problem with, its the fact that their child is an adult now, and is living an adult life. The parents dont realize that if they want to keep their relationship with their daughter, they need to adapt and change the relationship. Even if OP got rid of her boyfriend, it wouldnt solve the core problem.
I get the feeling they genuinely don’t like him, but have trouble defining why. Unfortunately, it’s probably just because he isn’t an “alpha male” type, as the Dad’s criticisms all seem to be around “a real man…..”. She really needs to tell her parents she’s “choosing” him, because he’s the one who would NEVER ask or expect her to choose.
last Eid, some family brought a child with the annoying squeaker shoes. do you understand how incredibly HARD it is to focus on prayers when there is a meat siren running around screeching and squeaking?
Like for fucks sake buy your child another pair of shoes. I understand that squeaky shoes have a purpose - making sure you can hear the child if they wander off so they don't get lost. But there's no need for that at a wedding, or in any place that needs silence, or anywhere like that. Either get another pair of shoes or if for any reason you can't just make sure your kid doesn't run around interrupting. Or take them off if it's indoors as long as it's safe.
I saw another video today where a woman gave birth to twin girls. One had an allergy to coconut. When the twins were 1.5 they left the girls with the woman's mother. The mother then used coconut oil on the twin's hair then gave the allergic one a Benadryl before bed. The drug pretty much left the twin unable to do anything as the allergen caused her to swell up and suffocate overnight. It's been over 12 years and the surviving twin is withdrawn knowing she lost a part of herself and the mother is in therapy. The grandmother wasn't charged but has been blacklisted by her family.
26:56 something kind of like that can actually happen, cold urticaria. It's a fairly rare health condition where contact to cold objects or low ambient temperatures cause an allergy-like reaction, from simple itchy welts to swelling and in extreme cases even anaphylaxis.
I looked into the first story a bit and found a post in a CPS subreddit under the same OP.: "The only thing that happened was some officers came to take our statement. We obviously said we never agreed to take care of my niece and showed then all the text messages they left. My cousin lied saying I had agreed to watch her. My aunt (cousin's mom) not wanting her to get in trouble also lied to say I had agreed to watch her and said it was all an unfortunate misunderstanding." The cousin still has custody. Which to me is a crying shame. Even if the porch was covered that's still so dangerous.
It's just insane how people can just try to lie about other people about "agreeing" If the OP clearly says that they never agreed, the mother of the niece should be sued for child-endangerment & Child-Abandonment Especially Kid-laundering because leaving your own kid without a reason & explanation is illegal
I'm so glad i was raised by a sane single mother! We got tattoos together instead of her being against it. We also got our noses pierced at the same, her younger sister, my aunt, joined us for the piercing.
@@airacummins5076Sleepaway Camp is an old, small-budget horror film. (Spoiler alert) It’s got some interesting narratives, but the baseline is that several counselors/camp staff who have…pretty bad proclivities get killed by one of the campers.
My mom is the kind of person who thinks that because she gave birth to me i have to do any and everything she asks. Some of it is reasonable like looking over my homework/grades, passing her water when shes thirsty but other times it's legit her look through my messages or my diary. The worst part is that everyone thinks its okay just because in my culture it normal for parents to be overprotective.
My mum is no bad mum, but every soo often she tries to guilt trip me with "all the things parents do for their children" Mum! I didn't ask you to give birth to me, it was your choice!
Yep. My parents tried to manipulate me with a diary when I was like 6 "So you can write in here if you don't want to talk to us" and promised not to read it. Now I didn't want to talk to them because they would use me asking for help against me, or shame me for stuff that was done to me because "You shouldn't have done that". Like a classmate stealing from me, apparently I was just supposed to tell them "No" and they would stop, and because they didn't stop it meant it was my fault for not being assertive. Like uh, why is this the 6 year olds problem, not the adults who are supposed to be in charge? Like I asked for help with a stealing classmate and their response was basically "You're a loser because you haven't already stopped them". So I was suspicious and hid it where I knew it would be found, but couldn't be accidentally moved, taking careful note exactly how I placed it. Not even a couple days later it had moved. They tried to put it back exactly, but not well enough. I never used it and it was confirmed a few months later when they asked me why I never wrote in my diary. Like you mean the diary you promised to never look in? That diary?
You say that until it's used against marginalised people to claim they're "unfit to be parents" for no reason but the fact they're marginalised… while parents like these probably still manage to slip through anyways… it's unfortunately one of those thoughts that only work in a perfect world where people don't use things meant to help to suppress others. And such a world would maybe also be a enough world for such parents to not exist in the first place
@@tezzanoia On top of people having children anyways unregistered which already happens, and even with the current child protection services already struggling as it is, I can only imagine people protesting or even rioting on mass cause "freedom". Also the moral question of forcefully taking a child away from a parent due to the parents lack of parent skill for varying reasons, will still scar the child as weather or not we see the horrid acts the parent did, the child still loves them and don't want to lose what they know. Real life just sucks in general I've already concluded.
@@tim_the_traveler yeah, I agree, unfortunately it does. One thing I do think would be pretty useful would be free parenting classes and stuff like that, just more resources available for soon to be and new parents, with very open and clear information at places like the gynecologist and by midwives telling those parents "hey, here's a resource you can go to, it's free, you can get to know other (soon to be) parents and learn a thing or two and just have people to talk to about the struggles of becoming parents, a support network". It still wouldn't help against truly horrible people who are setting out to be horrible, but it may help those who suck because they're overwhelmed, could help recognise parents with mental health struggles and offering them counselling or therapy (or like helping to nudge them there) and things like that. And I think helping to get those who are in the grey area of being shitty parents but not on purpose to the better side of parenting would be a win. Again, those who really really suck and especially those who set out to be bad people won't really be affected by this I'm afraid, but sadly that's the case with almost all systems that could be put in place I'm afraid
I get so tired of hearing people use "my child" as a reason for everything. I didnt have kids, and short of absolute abuse or psychological damaging things, i couldnt care less about what you think bothers your kids. Or what your kids need or what you think they should be entitled too.
Yep. At a pool I worked a couple tried to get me fired because they were "terrified" the sight of me would traumatize their "innocent children". Aka I'm trans. Problem is, they're kids were at least in their 30s, lived on the other side of the world, and were no contact (I only knew all this because whispering was not a concept they understood at all). Yeah, thankfully my boss was great and gave them "a super easy solution to their problem"- don't swim here and you won't have to see them anymore.
Ok whoa! The 1st story, where she abandoned the baby? The POLICE and CPS should have been called immediately!!! If the grandparents hadn’t come by, the baby would have DIED of THIRST(takes 3 days, or less for infants) or EXPOSURE. It’s a miracle it survived the night. Idk that this story was quite given the gravity it deserved
Yo, memory unlocked! When I was really little, like maybe four or something, I had a pair of rubber duckie boots that had squeakers in them and they could keep me entertained for hours. I was like a dog with a chew toy when my parents brought me outside to play. I would simply step and stomp the entire time giggling about the duckie squeaks. I would throw a fit if they put any other shoes on me and I was devastated when I grew out of the boots. I loved those duckie boots so much.
23:00 I can actually answer that.. I am still in contract with my mother, just limited. And she was really gross when i found a partner. I'm a trans guy and i'm dating a guy, so she started pushing me to have kids, cause she needs grandkids. We don't want kids and she only brings it up sometimes Always weird to see that post out in the wild
It's such a wild social norm - I will never understand the entitlement of people, be it family or random ladies on the bus, to demand you have kids just because you bear a uterus. That your mother owns, apparently. If she wants babies so bad, she can use her other uterus. The one inside herself. Ugh. Your tattoo is amazing and I wish you guys all the best!
17:10 Nono Clicc - NOT petty - grieving and broken. She lost her own child, and is suffering a psychotic break. Heartbreaking. She needs help. REAL HELP. NOT this crap that victimizes another innocent child. To be clear, i haven't gotten past 17:21 yet. But I'm pretty darn confident of this. I lost a child myself, many years ago. In group support, there was a wide range of how parents coped. 18:03 Yup. Dayum. Jeff is SICK😢😢😢
The grieving woman needs help, but OMG either the “grieving father” has no empathy or is also having a massive psychological break. It’s hard to know for sure but that family needs real help & the mother is very right to just enforce no contact. Edit: Holy Crud - just got to the part with all the updates about the legal battle. I have no words.
The parents of the wife are now blaming the father for the death of the child claiming he shook her and blamed it on SIDS. Also sadly the wife is not around any longer, due to self inflicted means.
Dropping a child off at a place with no prior arrangement for childcare is classified as abandonment in the US. Like CPS is not joking even slightly. I once listened to my manager threaten to call CPS on a lady who was 2 hrs late to pick up her kid with no excuse. What that cousin did was abandonment, straight up and is the reason that law exists.
40:42 - That young lady needs to understand (and FAST, before any kids enter the picture) that who her boyfriend is, and what either of them do, will never be the issue; the issue is that previously, her parents had the most influence and control over her life and her choices, and her finding a life partner means that they are not the most important elements in her life anymore. It's about maintaining control and keeping her under their thumbs. She and her partner will never be good enough for her parents, because the only "good" outcome to them is one where they are the center of her life until the day her parents die.
the first story is WILD that child could have died if not found for simple things like hunger or dehydration, not to mention all of the other horrible things like cayotes, a bad person founding them etc...
the first story - a small child could die of dehydration within a few days, not to mention they can't moderate their body temperature as well as an adult, due to their small body mass. plus all of that, sitting in your own excrement for days can cause skin breakdown, leading to infection up to and including sepsis, which has a very high mortality rate. the cousin should lose custody and go to jail. what a horrible person! and blaming op? wtaf? what would have happened if the grandparents hadn't come that day and the child sat until monday? and the neglect is so obvious - when they didn't hear back from OP after an hour....two....five...? wouldn't you follow up..?
Agreed on first two, in fact I thought it might have been me but I prefer Neptune (I have a 3D-printed light-up Neptune in my living room - I don't 3D print but interact with people who do, while I crochet & they don't so...). But yep, Pluto IS a planet, because size doesn't make a planet: direct orbit round a sun does. And Pluto has a direct orbit, not a weird way-off-centre one like Halley's Comet.
@@elaineb7065 "direct orbit" just means that an object doesn't orbit a planet or moon, which makes it a moon or a moon-moon (yes, Moon-Moon is real.) Comets also have direct orbits. The qualifiers of a planet are 1. Orbiting a star directly 3. Big enough to have a round shape 3. Dominating its orbit (concentrating most of the mass in its orbit in itself and any moons) Well, Pluto is part of the Kuiper belt, meaning his orbital region contains several other dwarf planets and a lot of space rubble. His orbit is so eccentric that it crosses Neptune's. The whole category of dwarf planets was created so we wouldn't have an ever-growing list of "planets" when only 8 of them are bigger than the Moon. I wouldn't mind getting Ceres, Eris, and Pluto as planets, but the list just goes on and on and on.
Those parents probably would more readily accept an abusive boyfriend over the nice one their daughter has, because misogyny is a hell of a drug. Couple of cowards who can't even confront the person they dislike so much face to face
My mother now watches your videos (I mean conservative Christian mom) and she absolutely loves it 😂 Changed her views a lot. Thanks now she’s…. …bisexual….? NO WAIT 😭 now I have a stepmom thanks so much Click…
Every time I feel insecure about not being the perfect Montessori parent I wish I was, I'll find a Click video and suddenly I feel like Mom of the Year! 😂
I am glad for two things- one, that I am finally here early enough for a video, and two, that I do not interact with any entitled parents on a regular basis. Thank goodness I finally got out of retail work
The whole wheelchair thing reminded me of something that happened to me a few years ago: I had to spend the whole month of december in the hospital after suffering a brain hemorrage... it was bad... as in "I woke up one morning and the whole left side of my body was limp, with no control nor sense of touch" For my whole stay I was in a wheelchair, safe for when in the hospital gym to do rehabilitation or doing the walks with the stroller that the doctor told me to do to help me re-learn how to walk. Anyway, one afternoon I came back to my room and one of the half dozen guests my roommate was having (note: one visitor at a time is the max allowed) was chilling sitting in my wheelchair like it was some sort of throne... 1 - that is a medical prevision, don't treat it like any seat 2 - even when the assigned patient is not there, that wheelchair belongs to someone who ACTUALLY NEEDS IT, so lift your lazy ass and if you are too tired to stand up I'll have you know there are a lot of free chairs in the waiting room 3 - what kind of adult doesn't respect a wheelchair and its purpose? I don't know how much open space there is in the empty skull of that moron, but I sure am not eager to sit in one of those things again. Respect hospitals. Respect patients. Respect anything related to them, you really don't want to be in their place or know how it feels.
That "therapy kid" thing was just so unhinged. How would the wife ever be able to recover, if they got a new kid "temporarily" that she in her delusion thinks is HER kid! It just wouldn't work. So crazy.
One of my best friends got married, there was a 50s polkadot theme for the bridesmaids and flower girl who was the brides 2yr niece. The flower girl had on these adorable ladybug shoes that matched her dress perfectly. There was just one problem. They squeaked. No one not even the mum who bought the shoes knew this until they were put on her feet at the wedding. Everyone thought it was adorable surprise, her squeaking down the aisle dumping the whole box of flower petals in one place. The shoes were swapped for the rest of the day after the photos.
My favorite colors are black, gold (as an accent color), pink (as an accent color), dark red, and dark blue. My favorite dinosaur is probably a raptor. Raptors are smart hunting/scavenging animals like humans. So I like to think they would've kept humans as pets if they survived long enough and then later promoted them to an allied species.
Raptors are awesome and scary! My favorite is a Compy. They're so little and cute but terrifying too. I also like Gallimimus because...look at them. So dopy.
Royal blue & the gentle but brutal when need be (& they needed to be) tanks like Triceratops & Spinosaur. There was also one of a similar vein who could use their tail as a big old club I'm sure
@@DrachenGothik666 Click said it's sad adults don't share their favourite colours or "childish" interests anymore. Two or three times, actually. Anyway, my favourite colours are black, purple (light and dark), and green (almost all shades)
Fun fact: the reason why men in historical dramas from Korea, China and Japan have long hair is because in ancient times they did believe your body was the property of your parents and you therefore could not cut your hair as it actually wasn’t yours.
And that, dear children, is why "culture" isn't always an excuse, and why we shouldn't let awful things happen just because of tradition, or culture, or a groups beliefs!
@@crowdemon_archives I'm South Korean (South Asian) And I do agree most Asians do have nice hairstyles, although I really don't go soaring around and complimenting people for their hair, it's only an occasion if they're a nice person
On the one where the parents are weirdly against their daughter's boyfriend . . . I could be borrowing trouble, I might just watch too much TV or something, but . . . maybe the boyfriend and the girlfriend should both take a DNA test, just to be 100% sure there's nothing there the parents know that they don't :[]
I can somewhat sympathize with the woman in the stroller trying to get a spot on the bus... its kinda frustrating that some busses don't have more than one space for strollers and wheelchairs...or bikes. I park my bike there sometimes :p But if there's a wheelchair user or a stroller getting on the same buss (and its not one of those busses with multiple spots) I just leave... I can imagine its annoying if two people who ACTUALLY need that space needs to get on the same buss... But getting mad at a wheelchair user and accusing them of faking a disability isn't helping... especially if your stroller is foldable. Blame the buss company in that case for not being accommodating enough for people with disabilities and small children. Heck I recall one time a buss had to LEAVE a wheelchair user behind... not because the spot was taken but because the lift they use to get them onboard wasn't working (which was a common problem with those busses... thankfully they're no longer in use) They called a taxi for them but still... it was freezing cold that day and the wheelchair user probably had to wait at least 5 minutes if not more for a cab to arrive in freezing snow...
24:30 Okay, Internet Uncle-Gay🏳🌈 and husband have lived at the same house for 25 years now. We have, during that time, periodically gotten mail for one of the other houses on the block, whether the house next door, or 4 houses down. _Never, _*_EVER_* have we opened a letter meant for one of the neighbors. And we always, _always, _*_always, ALWAYS_* take the letter over to the correct address and put it in the mailbox within 12 hours. That, children, is called *_RESPECT_* - respect for other people, respect for your community, _respect for federal law governing the mail._ Practice Respect. This has been a public service announcement from your Internet Uncle-Gay🏳🌈.
It's good to return the packages & mails to the right addresses. Oh and it would be good to set up a note sign "hey delivery person, please leave the packages & mail to the right addresses!"
If something happens to a child in that phase "before they can remember" it's 100x (i don't actually how much worse) more psychologically damaging because that's when the pathways to which you process your physical world are developing, so that individuals subconscious brain will remember what happened to them, and react in ways that the adult individual doesn't understand (abandonment issues), because they don't remember what happened, but their subconscious is setting off all the alarms to make sure it never happens again, because that's where the "memory" is stored at that age.
24:49 this reminds me of the traumatize them back story where the lady and her kid kept getting the persons packages, so she ordered a spider and they got scared by the spider. The kid was crying and everything I'm pretty sure.
drinking game: take a shot for every time the click says "that/this is wild/absolutely wild" jokes aside, I'm surprised this was never covered 💀 you're in for one hell of a roller coaster my guy, enjoy the ride and the frustration that comes with it
7:21 I ask people their favourite colour all the time and when they answer I say “congratulations you have won a spot in my tomodachi life save! I’ll take good care of you :D”
Me, having previously seen the Katie/Gabrielle story on other channels; "Oh great, this psycho again". Click, reading it blind, not knowing what's coming: "Wow calling her Gabby is so petty!" Me, pointlessly to my tv screen; "Oh Click, no, it's SO much worse than that.
18:47 i absolutely hate when people treat kids as if theyre just objects. its TERRIBLE for a childs development to be treated like they are lesser than or just some "possession." this is INSANE.
40:32 If I had to guess the parents have seen the writing on the wall and realized that if their daughter marries the boyfriend, the new couple will not be raising their children to be misogynistic. So when the (grand)parents try to enforce their misogyny onto the grandchildren they're eventually going to be going no contact. They want their daughter to marry someone who isn't going to allow her free agency.
So I do have a few theories on the "my parents dislike my boyfriend for no reason" post. 1 it isn't about race but maybe religion? My family's church tried to get me to break up with my now husband because he's Wiccan, or 2 they had someone picked out and her getting her own boyfriend prevents them from trying to foist this person upon her as who they approve of her marrying.
first story: imagine coming home and finding a dead child strapped in a seat
and then, you see that this was your niece.
Right? Imagine if OP had come home to that.
It's amazing that with the 1 night outside she didn't suffer negative effects. OP's parents probably should have taken her to the hospital for a check over and made sure the police & CPS were alerted. It's terrifying how neglectful her mother was and that she is still blaming OP over it. The little girl might be too young to really remember it, but there will no doubt be an internalised fear of abandonment that she won't necessarily know the origins of. It's amazing she survived, and OP's parents coming by did likely save her life because 3 days without fluids for a baby that small...that would most likely have resulted in death or severe brain damage. And that isn't even accounting for the possibility of wildlife, or exposure/heat stroke (depending on the weather/area, could even be both), etc. My heart breaks at what she must have gone through even in just that amount of time.
If she has done that this time, she has likely left her home alone before...or will in the future.
honestly until i heard that the grandparents found the kid i actually thought the kid was sitting strapped to a car seat on the front step for 4 days
@@gothic_ace2037yeah i was really afraid the poor baby would have been deceased. maybe because i have my own baby niece i see often and it made me feel more protective but i was just sitting in shock anger and fear while click had to try and keep cool, awkwardly laughing through. i hope the cousin gets arrested if this story is real, but also just to think this is something that does happen in real life is terrifying.
@@hawkeyescoffee6399 yes, it's absolutely insane. that's the single thing that could have gone SO wrong. they should be relieved that the girl is alive.
@@hawkeyescoffee6399 yeah, OPs parents should've taken her to the hospital and reported the mother for child abuse, not called the mother to come get her kid.
An infant… an INFANT. She left an infant outside someone’s house… when they didn’t even know was home! CPS needs to take the child away immediately!!
right? i need an update on that story!
She was damn lucky it was a family member who found the kid and not a neighbour who would surely IMMEDIATELY have called CPS.
Poor baby!😢😢😢
@@ilanarhian the parents being lucky in this case means the kid is extremly unlucky, because otherwise someone official would have had to enter and protect the child.
@@SpagettigeistI was about to say the same thing, for the niece it would have been BETTER for someone to call CPS
As someone who has lost two babies, the "have katie replace the daughter they lost" is just beyond f'd up. For so many reasons. And its not going to help the grief, they'd be messing with the kiddo's emotions and psyche for no reason.
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I hope you're doing ok now. :( ❤️🩹
Been there. I can't agree more! Reality may suck sometimes, but there's no use in delusions, and almost always HARM.
I hope you are in a good place now.
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@@KOKO-uu7yd absolutely agree, and thank you 💜 it's the anniversary of losing my youngest son on the 20th and his ashes were stolen in November so I'm struggling quite a bit at the moment. But his big brother keeps me pushing through 💜. Kiddo tells everyone he meets about baby brother. I'm so sorry you've been there as well, I hope peace has become a bit easier since the loss 🫂
The Gabriella story was insane. I thought the wife maybe suffered from a mental illness, but I definitely wasn't expecting to hear that Jeff wanted to give his wife a biological ghost child. Wtf that is NOT how you cope.
I think Jeff doesn't want to take care of anyone or anything. His wife has a trauma: quick fix: pretend Gabriella never died so Jeff doesn't need to deal with it.
I had already heard that story before. It gets even worse than that. The other mother becomes a stalker and actually even tries to kidnap the child at some point. It's really wild
@@brodericksiz625 I still blame Jeff i wonder how much forcing and maniplation he did to convice her that it was the dead child. Also encouraging that behaviour is so bad
The entire story is crazy. There's 2 more updates after the ones here, one where a priest was sent to OP and then the most recent update which was 19 hours ago. In the last update it turns out that Jeff actually killed the other child (He shook her to death, she had colic) and his wife actually did the gameovering.
Oh god. I felt so sorry for anyone involved. I hope the best for everyone espicially the child in the family cause wtf man..
One of my aunts sued her son's girlfriend to make her lose custody of their toddler daughter. Why? The girlfriend didn't want to subject the child to a cosmetic surgery to remove a birthmark. They talked to doctors, the birthmark wasn't something that'd impact the child's health in any way.
How is that a problem for the child
If anything a birthmark is very cute , i had a huge birthmark on my forehead until went through puberty
Everytime i bragged that my birthmark was because my stoopid baby self just slammed his head on the floor 😂
Did the lawsuit fail? I really hope it did
Did your Aunt succesfully sue her? This type of stuff can seriously hurt someones life
@@vimtheprotogen2855 it got thrown out right away so no worries
What in the name of all that's holy, WHAT!?
Re the abandoned toddler. Child Protective Service should been notified. Any 'parent' capable of that abuse is capable of anything.
And OP said “infant”. The kid was a baby. Three days without food or water is extremely harmful for adults… god only knows how bad it would be for a baby
@@AIHumanEquality negligence is abuse
Child abuse and neglect are both part of the child protection mandate.
Therapist and mandated reporter here. Can confirm. Negligence and neglect are absolutely abuse, and can be legally charged as such. That poor child isn't safe with its mother.
Yeah if the parents hadn't showed up the next day that kid would be DEAD. Then the mom could have had a murder charge on her hand...
With the first one, at least in the US (Not sure where this was), leaving a kid in an area where they are alone without anyone there, even if you intend to return, is a form of child abandonment and will lose you custody of the child and get you a hefty prison sentence
Woooops💀entitled prison parents 🐌
I don't understand how that child is even still alive. Was there food and water within reach?
@ttintagel It sounded like the neice was only left alone for one or two days. Not ideal but survivable.
Sadly you know none of these people held them accountable
The baby was only there for one night, but they are extremely lucky no wild animals came along. I would never leave my child without knowing with absolute certainty they were safe and in good hands.
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The worst part about this story is while everyone knows that this is obviously awful for the child-
Using an _actual child_ as a way to treat her psychological problem is _so unethical and will cause her further harm._ People with these delusions are typically given _dolls_ to regulate themselves, that’s what he needs to give her, not a _real child._
Jeff is just a f**ktard with zero parental instincts and got with a psychotic family that see children as objects. The problems with his family is his own to deal with, not OP and her daughter. At this point, OP should file a restraining order against him and that crazy family.
That post was the set up of a horror movie. The child growing up and finding out they were kidnapped from their original family, because their "mother" lost her own kid and couldn't live with that reality.
Not to mention it makes me think of animals in the wild like lions who will kidnap children that aren't their own. Humans really are still just animals aren't we?
In this story i feel sorry the for the mother who lost her child. She is clearly not mentally well and instead of helping. That disguisting family is trying to kidnap a child from its own mother and basically then give trauma to someone else. That husband/father is insane.
I'm guessing the child died as a toddler so a baby newborn wouldn't work.
@@elaexplorer I think they have toddler reborn dolls too, they just cost a lot. Though in this case, this lady is literally looking at a 6 year old that looks nothing like the other child and is still "seeing" her child. Therefore she's delulu enough that they could get a reborn baby that looked just like Gabby and it would most likely work. Hell they can even get one with a heartbeat machine inserted.
I hate when parents use the 'I gave birth to you' card as if we asked to be born. My life up until the past few years has been nothing but trauma, I was suicidal for over 8 years before actually trying to take my own life. I didn't succeed thanks to my mom and I'm grateful now that my life is better. But my abusive man-child father used to to use that excuse ALL. THE! TIME!!! And my only thought as a teen and child would be: "I never asked to be born and if you hate me so much, why didn't you just abort me?" I never said it, but I often wished I had been aborted because of my trauma.
I hope things continue getting better for you in the future
I think you should actualy tell them that. If these people who should have been parents to you made you suffer; either they have a concience and it will make them feel terrible (well deserved), or they don't have any and that's how you will find out. But If you are already no contact with them it is probably bether that way. I can't imagine what you have been through. I wish you a bright and beautiful future.
@@rebny7801 I'm no contact with my dad, my mom was never like that
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I’d like to quote a meme Click read for this
“Don’t kill yourself. Outlive your enemies.”
Honestly, as a young adult who’s gone through trauma with a shit father like that, I get you, and wish you the best in life.
Things will get better, you’ll find a support network of people who care and love you.
My mother had that same sense of ownership over my body. She's had an uncountable number of meltdowns over it, constantly violated my boundaries, had no sense of privacy, and somehow made all *my* problems about herself. She treated me like her own personal dress-up doll.
Let's just say that coming out as trans didn't go well, lol.
Narcissistic Personality Disorder is not a good look on anybody, let alone a parent. I hope you've been able to put some space between the two of you!
Yep, my parents think they can dictate what medical procedures I get "because we are your parents". Yeah, shocked Pikachu face when they tried calling one of my doctor's and the office wouldn't even say I was a patient. They threw a fit and tried to pull the "but it's my insurance" line (I was on their insurance when they tried this), but got nothing. So they called me up and demanded I sign the forms that let them talk to my doctor's. Yeah, no. So when I had my hysterectomy (for medical reasons no less, the gender reasons were just a bonus) I just told the hospital the only person who should be let in to see me is my partner who is currently holding my hand, otherwise don't even say I'm a patient.
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You don't have to, but could you tell me how old you were when you had the hysterectomy? I want one as soon as possible.. but I have to wait a long time and there's a lot of down sides to it. I'm thinking of a tubal ligation but that's pretty much the same as taking the Pill. Sigh.
@@AmieMorley-st6tz I was mid 20s, and it took 4 doctors, seven years of searching, and two traumatic experiences resulting in PTSD. Sadly that makes me lucky. Oh, and I'm trans, so that should've made some things a bit easier to convince doctors on, but alas, no. My only suggestion (since odds are you live nowhere near me so my doctor probably wouldn't work) would be to look for queer friendly doctors (even if you aren't queer yourself), because they tend to be less likely to be shitty about it. Feel free to ask any other questions you have (well aside from the trauma parts obviously).
The extra sad bit is I had medical reasons to need one. My blood counts were frequently 1% above blood transfusion levels, and my cramps were so bad I passed out and the only things that could touch it were narcotics. Recovery was about as painful as an average period for me for the first 1-2 days, and then a mild period after that. Even walking my surgical site into a table less than 24 hours out was just like "Well that was highly unpleasant". I actually had a kick a nurse out of my room at a post-op appointment because she started a freaking argument with me when she said "Recover is like a really really bad period" and I was like "No, it's like a mild period for me". And she had the audacity to "correct" me (in the same tone of voice you use for a toddler trying to eat the sidewalk, and I'm pretty sure she was younger than me) that *"Surgery* is more painful than *periods".* Like it should be, but wasn't for me.
@waffles3629
I’m glad we have men like you out there adding a little balance of against the kind who want to control all people with a certain body type, and the traitors who go along with them.
Sorry, I’m just over here dealing with my rage at Kaitlyn Jenner and Ben Shapiro… Traitors, both of them! Feeding the enemy!
The lady with the daughter whose biological dad was tryna get her to be therapy for his wife made an update: The wife died, self-inflicted. The woman's parents also claimed Jeff killed their baby by shaking her and blamed it on SIDS. Horrible all around.
Holy shit.
That's horrifying. Given dude's attitude towards his living child I wouldn't be surprised if the woman's parents were right....
Not an update we expected but WOW. Jeff seems to be someone society would be better off without...
Dear lord...
Dear gods... I don't often use the word monster, but it's warranted here.
My heart already went out to the grieving wife, but now I have to wonder if he outright drove her to it. OP is right to keep her daughter far, FAR away from him.
the last one is even worse if you think through it
if the mother would get full custody and that girl grows up there, she would likely fall victim to the same things when she is at the same age, so that woman is basically providing her husband a new victim
That's the main reason why abusers pull that kind of schit - to get their hands on another victim.
EXACTLY!
"I made you = I own you" Parents when they hear about the 13th amendment:
It still allows involuntary servitude as punishment for a crime...
@@AIHumanEquality sadly Christians and Catholics do essentially think that. they think everyone is born full of sin, and they have to redeem themselves asap.
@@TheSkyGuy77did you call being born a crime
@@Milk-ck1wv
No, I didn't. I'm just stating how it's still fked up that people can still be enslaved under certain conditions.
@@TheSkyGuy77hm, valid
Remember, having kids is optional, not required. And once you choose to have kids, they're your responsibility, not everyone else's.
Unfortunately some people don't choose to have kids but end up with them because of circumstances. That being said, most parents do choose to have kids, and even if you didn't choose it, they're still your responsibility unless you surrender custody to someone else
The one with the cousin who left their kid in a car seat was horrible!! I would guess the kid was maxim 6 months old because - definitely not more than 9 based on the fact that were still small enough for the kind of car seat that can be carried. Car seats for toddlers don't have a handle for carrying, they stay in the car. Also because OP said "infant". That poor poor child. What a horrible mother!
I would've been calling CPS on principle and given absolute verbal hell to anyone in the family who gave me crap for it.
"left neice on doorstep" uhhhh....... yeah call CPS. call CPS immediately.
I hope abandoned baby momma got CPS called on her. That is some CRIMINAL level DFKY.
Off topic but what’s DFKY? Google didn’t help
@@Just_Reading_Comments Leaving a comment so I can see the answer too, because I’ve found next to nothing either.
I suspect it may be short for "dumbf*kery"
@@Just_Reading_Comments "don't fucking kid yourself"
@@Just_Reading_Comments I can't figure it out either, and I really want to know now.
On the story with Jeff: there's updates and one as recent as yesterday. Jeff hired a priest and sent them to OP's work, claiming Jeff was a "Godly man" and that op was not fit to raise the daughter. Op said that the daughter was safe and her personal affairs are none of his business and asked him to leave. Priest said he'd come back when she's not hysterical. OP told the secretary he's not allowed back there. OP did talk to the bishop and said they wouldn't bother her again and was apologetic.
The story gets worse and pretty sad, but does have some good news.
Jeff dropped the case. OP and her lawyer checked to make sure it wasn't a legal trap, and thankfully it wasn't. Both sides agreed. Her daughter is safe and the godparents help in taking the daughter to and from school, and OP is looking to move closer to the godparents and found a spot.
By chance she ran into the wife's parents and they asked to talk. She hesitated but agreed to buy them a coffee. The in-laws apologize and said Jeff lied and convinced them that OP would agree to that arrangement. Jeff lied about A LOT, saying he was godly, and that he asked OP to marry but that she refused and was only after his money. It was obviously not true and OP stated in the past a lot that she never wanted to get married or want his money so that lie whent no where. The in-laws then said their daughter passed away, and that it was self-inflicted. The poor woman clearly needed help, but instead of that, Jeff tried to use OP's kid to pretend like nothing happened.
The worst part was Jeff who lied about how the the baby passed on. The baby was colic, which means they cry nonstop, and Jeff shook the baby, which was the actual cause. Its so messed up. The conversation with the in-laws went well and they gave OP a picture of the baby to have, that she stated she'd save to tell her daughter about her half-sister, and even visit them at the cemetary when things calm down. OP relayed that information to her lawyer, who scolded her for doing it alone, but understood why. People are probably wondering why Jeff wouldn't be charged with murder, but OP said that where they're from, if you have enough money, a bribery goes a long way and its very likely he got away with it.
The good part to this sad story is that Jeff has no legal ties to OP and her daughter, they have a temporary restraining order and will be going lengths to protect her daughter. She hopes nothing else will happen and her daughter is happy, doing well, and well supported by her awesome mama and godparents.
I hope karma makes Jeff's life a living hell.
Edit: fixed spelling and grammar
If karma doesn’t I will. I have a hot list to clear off before I leave this country
Ah Shaken Baby Syndrome, it’s hard to prosecute because it’s often accidental and a combination of a frail child and bad education on child care. Basically it's hard to prove intent/abuse without other indications.
that poor woman, losing her child like that and then discovering how much your husband’s lied about…i hope she’s reunited with her daughter in the afterlife, and karma’s gonna get jeff one of these days
I wish Click knew this.
If karma doesnt serve, we have to :)
Most of the time when I find toddlers with squeaky shoes it's because they like to escape and sneak away. So the squeaky shoes make it easier for you to find them.
I have a friend who has done something similar with a bell for her hyperactive autistic son when he was in a larger area.
Same reason I'd dress my youngest two in very bright overcoats or shirts when they were toddlers. They were runners. My youngest was the worst and had a nuts fascination with bolting to the nearest road every chance she got. She was very quick too. I am amazed she's survived to 13 😅
For my kid I put him in a book bag with a leash because most of the time he'll stay right next to me. But if he would try to dart I could just step on the leash. The weirdo won't let me put the leash down. If he sees I'm not holding it he yells and hands it back to me!XD
I was a leash kid. Very neurodivergent, nonverbal, hated being picked up, and very highly sensory seeking. I find it a little funny when people go on long tangents about how unethical it is to have a kid on a leash. Until they learn that the number 1 cause of death for children with autism is elopement.
Every big event with crowds I attended as a child, my folks would get me one of those fun foil balloons. Was a win-win: I got a balloon, they got to see where I was by hunting for the balloon.
That “wants to use my kid as therapy” story is really sad, like, the lady who threw the fit was mentally unwell, and he put her, his kid and the poster through absolute hell because he didn’t want to do the actual best thing and get his wife into therapy.
Like I don’t even feel the crazy lady was wrong, perse, cause she was as much a victim of her shitheel husband as anyone was. Like her reaction was insane but she was also experiencing a world destroying level of stress and loss so at least I can rationalize why she behaved the way she did rather than be normal
Also what I was thinking... From her point of view, she just lost her child, and might have learned that her husband had an other biological kid? So he might have cheated on her? If she even knows "Katie" is her husband's other daughter in the first place. This man has serious issues and I'm relieved OP is standing her ground like that.
@@thornwalker8970 oh yeah, absolutely.
And what i don't even get is that OP said Jeff was doing well financially. So he could very well afford therapy for his wife! A very good one, even. He could have all the resources at hand to help her recover, but he chooses the unhealthiest possible path... it's plain laziness and irresponsibility at this point.
Also, this started TWO YEARS ago!
Two years and she hasn’t accepted that her child is gone, and this guy is just being a horror movie villain.
Wish Click knew this.
Huh, I’m surprised Click hasn’t covered Entitled Parents yet XD I just realized
Woah! You're here? Sweet.
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Where have i heard that
I didnt even realize this was Entitled Parents, i just thought this was Insane Parents
@@galaxytaba4640 They made the Mew and Mewtwo series. Great shit and that's all I'll say to keep this short and not spam them.
i am worried that if the father did get his daughter the wife would treat the kid as if it was the lost one, change the kids name, try to gaslight the kid into thinking they are her real parents just do their best in imprinting their dead kid on this living kid
Especially concerning (like it isnt the most concerning idea upfront) apparently "gabriella" wasnt potty trained yet but the *_6_* year old was
I have seen horror films about this sort of thing!
@@airacummins5076 Kids are usually potty trained by the time they're a few years old, disability or neglect notwithstanding. I hope the kid was ok, or that was a typo.
@@cheddarcheezit2647 I was thinking gabriella mightve been alot younger?
I read the updates. Sadly the wife passed away... self inflicted. Turns out there was plenty reason for the mental issues she seemed to have. Jeff lied. The death wasn't faultless. According to his in-laws, he'd shaken her too hard. He did drop all attempts at getting custody soon after the death of his wife so I don't think we have to worry about the daughter any more. Still, she and OP will be moving. They'll be living closer to the kid's godparents
The mom who left their kid on the doorstep without even confirming someone is home should be in prison.. that's some serious child abandonment/endangerment.. that kid probably would not have survived the whole weekend if OP's parents didn't happen to stop by
Yep. Like a literal infant. Why the parents called the mother instead of taking the kid to the hospital and calling CPS is beyond infuriating.
@waffles3629 the fact that the mom didn't even consider something might be wrong when OP didn't reply to her original text after like an hour, let alone overnight, is another huge red flag too
@@alfiesmullet1311 yep. Though I did find the post (or one of the updates, not quite sure) and apparently the grandparents did take the baby to the hospital, but she's back home with her mother now while CPS "investigates".
Honestly, the idea that people only want to have kids to satisfy what ever delusional fantasy or power trip is honestly a revolting thing. Why do these people exist?
Ten to one Jeff was arrested for attempted kidnapping of a different child so his wife could continue to avoid getting real help.
That's what I was thinking, though I'm surprised they didn't try to abduct his actual daughter first. Maybe she's just too well guarded. They both sound like psychopaths, and OP and her daughter are far better of without either one in their lives.
The arrest was for a drunken brawl. The OP made an update a couple of days ago that she had talked to Jeff's wife's parents and learned that the wife had recently taken her own life, and also that Jeff had killed their baby by shaking her
@@laurelanne5071So not only was the baby's death his fault, this also made his wife kill herself out of grief.
Somehow it got worse, Primus damn...I hope that the family and OP are doing alright.
That first story. I’m surprised the child didn’t die of thirst
Wasn't it like one day?
I just think on how hella boring it must've been for the child to just sit there lol
@@zumazuma568 yesterday it reached 110 degrees ferenheight, it's been like that all month, if your in America, it is possible to die of thirst or heat stroke in a single day
My dislexik ass ready "Mom discoverd me on a tattoo" in the Thumbnail
I can see the struggle, amazing work
NOO don't spin the demon he's gonna get sick
Don't worry, it's just like a carosel, except without the fixtures and set to hyperdrive.
@@MinuHexso… it’s more like being attached to a blender beater set on turbo?
I bet he pukes rainbows
To the centrifuge it goes
@@alexismyers6053that’s what I’d assume yea lol
"No one asks anymore" WELL, my favorite color is pale blue/deep green and my favorite dino is the Parasaurolophus. Anyone else?
Mine is green and black. My favorite dinosaurs are guan long and parasourolophus as well.
Mine is purple and i also love raptors :)
Pink, and I'm personally a fan of the Plesiosaurus.
I like a silvery mother-of-pearl blue, and . . . I'm going to say chicken nuggets ^-^
Mine is blue and black. Favorite dino is the archeopteryx
There was an entitled parents story about a mother who stole her 23 year old adult offspring 's car to "ground" her. It goes all the way to court. The mom has told everyone it's just her kids being dramatic for being grounded, until the daughter's age is finality brought up. It was so delicious, but I can't find it anywhere now :(
I remember that story! I think it was on one of RSlash’s old videos? I forgot
Reminds me of a wild time in my life in my early 20s when my parents took away my phone and told me I was only allowed to use my car (that I was making payments on) to go to work because I was grounded. What for? For breaking up with my boyfriend. Yeah.
@@sunnyandthechlo wow...
Ooo, I think I remember that one. The judge was even siding with the mother thinking the kid was a minor till the kids lawyer said something like "Your honor, my client is 23, she doesn't need permission to use her car". Like you'd think the ages would've been known by the judge beforehand.
3:40 she wasn’t a toddler … an INFANT!
The "you can't get a tattoo because I gave birth to you, so I own you" reminds me of my mom with my body hair. I'm a trans man and naturally have thick leg hair, so she forced me to shave constantly growing up. Even now 2 years on T she's having me get waxed for an event :(
Edit: grammar
My mom did the same thing to me for my grandmothers funeral.
me too but im not trans, i just dont want body hair. and its not my mom, its my dad and grandparents, and its the opposite. i DONT want the hair lol
Thats.... messed up, at least my parents couldnt bc im blond so its basically invisible
Kids aren't property, why do parents think they are. Mine did the same thing lol
don't let her tell you what to do!
I'm a simple gal. I see Click and I click.
the click mindset
Queens😘😘
Same 😁
🙋♀️Same
My uncle and aunt lost their three children in an accident he at least seemed somewhat responsible for. My aunt and uncle were psychologically broken beyond recovery. Afterwards they tried to kind of dote on nieces and nephews, working themselves up as some kind of second place parents. It was covertly invasive. The complete extended family started to revolve around their loss. My mom always protected us against this and warned her brothers and sisters and she got a fair amount of strict retorts. Then when we all started to reach the age their children died at, they cut all contact with their 'children' and even expected family get togethers to be solely without nieces and cousins. It kind of blew up the whole family. It is really awful what some people have to live through and they do deserve support and understanding, but be careful not to become collaterally damaged in the process. Broken people can become dangerous themselves.
The story with the Jeff guy. He was taking advantage of both the mother, the child, and his wife. He doesn’t deserve any of them. I hope his wife gets actual help and not be emotionally hurt by that man. I really don’t blame the wife for how she reacted if she was being emotionally manipulated which seemed to be what that guy was going for. As if he wanted a temporary “fix” but his wife cause he couldn’t stand her emotional turmoil. It’s just disgusting all around.
Sadly it seems (Saw it in another comment) that the wife died, self-inflicted 🫠 that man doesnt deserve any of them
@KuroNoUsagi oh no !
According to other comments I saw, not only did the wife kill herself, but the husband was (allegedly) the reason the kid died. He shook her to death and blamed it on SIDS. He also lied to the mother's family about him being "godly" and proposing to OP when he found out she was pregnant, and basically convinced them his plan would work. He also sent a priest to OP's workplace to tell her Jeff is a "godly man" and she's not fit to raise the kid.
Basically he got a woman pregnant and didn't want anything to do with the baby or the mother. Then, he gets a wife and kid, and kills the baby, lies about it, and instead of getting his grieving and mentally unstable wife help, he tries to take his other kid from her mom to use as a therapy doll. When the original mother refuses, he tries to take legal action to take the kid away from her mother fully, despite admitting he doesn't actually care about the kid. His wife still isn't getting help in the meantime and kills herself.
Click: you smell astounding today
Me: *really needs a shower and has a stomach bug*
Hope you can get some good rest, and can knock this bug out quick, friend.❤
I wish you a quick recovery!
Adds to the smell
Thank you
"Astounding" doesn't necessarily mean "good"...
Hope you're feeling better soon ! 😃
That story about "jeff" wanting to use his "daughter" for lack of a better term, for unhealthy therapy for his now wife.
I've heard that, and seeing click read, I'm just like, "hold on, hold on, jeff is worse of person than that"
That first story is literally child abandonment and child endangerment and the child should be removed from the home without any further reason.
3:02 I would've kindly reminded her that she and only she is responsible for her child's well being. This is a nice case for child protective services.
The story with 'Katie/Gabrielle', my heart breaks for the other wife. Not only did the husband hide having a child with someone else (even if he's not at all involved in the life, that's still a Pretty Big Secret to Keep), but then after a tragedy and clearly without getting other sufficient psychological help or support, he decides on a wild scheme that can only lead to more psychological trauma for her down the line at some point, and does so without even consulting the writer of the post, leading to an immediate situation of 'her baby' being taken away from her again. I can't fathom how that man convinced his parents (post says 'her in-laws') to go ALONG with that.
I need to do some research but according to a couple comments here, Jeff's wife put an end to everything by her own hand. According to the in laws, Jeff was also responsible for the baby not surviving having shaken it allegedly. If that's true, it makes Jeff way more terrible
@@bobbywamsley4828wow
Yeah, ts utterly gruesome and a tragedy
That story with the child trying to be used as a tool for therapy is creepy as hell. Idk if it was the woman’s delusions or the fact that the baby daddy genuinely thought anyone would agree to just give up a child so that someone else can pretend it’s their own dead baby. Jesus fucking Christ.
It gets worse I'm afraid. According to another commenter, there's yet another update and the grieving wife committed game over. The wife's parents have also laid blame for the baby's death at his hands because he (allegedly) shook the baby death.
Also the bio father had sent a priest after her who claimed she was not fit to raise the child and that this "Jeff" was a "godly man". That story is a can of worms.
A human adult cannot survive for more than three days without water, I can only imagine how dehydrated that child was by the time they were discovered.
They were found the next day, so they were probably quite dehydrated, but it wasn't for the full three days.
@@waffles3629that's exactly what they said
Okay the allergic to ice story is genuinely funny because Im actually "allergic" to ice (cold urticaria). Ive had people tell me that putting on coats was weak and that i was sensitive and my response was to grab ice and rub it on my arm for it to break out
27:00 0_0
My nephew has the same thing and we live in northern Canada. Winters sucks for him. You have guts triggering your reactions on purpose. I hope it's not too painful for you though or that it doesn't get worse.
Oh, shoot .. hope spend a good amount of life living somewhere nice and warm
My mother had a cold allergie for 2 years, after that it went away. Like really substantial swellings when she got cold.... It is wild what type of allergies exust abd how little we know about them
There is no "too young to even remember it".
Not with traumatic experiences. The problem is, that while the kid would be unable to retrieve that memory from that early, or actively remember it, the trauma is emotional and that sticks.
There is no "too young to remember it", there's just a "was too young to ever be able to get to the source of the trauma."
1st, a PSA... *clears throat* DO NOT SEND REPTILES VIA MAIL! It's one thing to hand deliver them or use specialized reptile delivery services, but do not send reptiles via usps, ups, FedEx. Reptiles can and have died by using these services they're not intended for living products.
Now that that's out of the way, 2nd, the post a out "everybody gets ice in their drink"... I would've just replied "then I guess I'm a nobody, huh?"
Who said anything about a reptile? Click mentioned a tarantula. That's a SPIDER.
@@Serai3 re-watch it. I quote. "A tarantula or a snake or something *laughing*."
A snake is a reptile, if you didn't know. And a tarantula is technically an arachnid, yes. It's part of the family Theraphosidae, which is apart from the "true" spiders, the family Araneomorph.
I'm an invert and reptile keeper hobbyist and semi-professional. Wanna try again, friend?
@@Serai3 Click mentioned a snake as a joke. Even though he was just being silly, we know people will do stupid things because they heard an idea what they thought was a good one. Thank you synthwolfe8906 for mentioning this!
How about we respect life and not refer to living beings as "products?"
@@FunkyLittlePoptart I do respect life. I used the term "products" to include plantlife. Additionally, animals, such as reptiles and inverts are products to businesses that sell them. Note that selling and adopting are different terms. Adopting is one owner to another. Selling is a transfer of ownership from a business or entity larger than an individual to an individual.
Usually, in adoption, both owners care for the animal. In sales, it's usually only the recipient that genuinely cares about the individual animal.
In short, "product" was the appropriate term as it includes not just animals but plants (and other non-animal beings, such as fungus and bacterium), as most owners and adoption sites don't send via mail or standard package delivery. At least, not that I've seen.
Imagine your daughter-in-law's parents knowing your child better than you do. that's how you know you failed as a parent.
Yep. My best friends parents know me better and I've only seen them like 20 times in my life. It's just sad
The story of the parents disliking the boyfriend with no reason reminded me of another similar story where after many arguments, the parents finally relinquished the information that the gf their son had was actually his half-sister product of an infidelity. I don't think this is the case, though, but it is either utmost powertripping and madness, or a similar dark secret.
For the record.
"The kid is too young to remember it"
Isn't how it works lol
The body remembers. That child will ALWAYS remember being abandoned for three days.
Too true. When I was a toddler I was attacked by a swarm of bees. I nearly died. But I have no memory at all of the incident. I didn't even know about it until my mid-teens. I have always freaked out when a bee was near me; screaming, flailing, you name it. Now I know why. While I can now better control my reactions, I am still very uneasy around them and do not want to be around them at all. Trauma like that is lifelong, even if we were too young to actually remember.
Yep. I had severe medical trauma throughout my childhood & teen years, but could not recall a single incident that would have spurred this on. When I was 20, I found out I’m intersex and had several major cosmetic(!!) surgeries before I was even 2. That’ll do it!
@@Shinigami2c2 I will say that whilst yours is very likely trauma related, there are plenty of people who *weren't* attacked by bees that are scared of them and react the way that you describe. Similar to being scared of spiders. My brother used to freak out a lot, and I believe probably still does if they were to be flying in his general area.
@@hedera1332 I realize that many have a phobia of bees; it's pretty common, along with spiders. However, what I was trying to get at was that the poor child will most likely have abandonment issues as well as food and drink insecurities as a direct result of this incident. While they may be too young to actively remember, they will still instinctively react in this manner and not know why, just like I did (and still do) with bees. If I'm not mistaken, this is a form of PTSD.
@@creacher00 I feel so sorry for you. The fact that your parents thought this was a good idea is so messed up...
I’m pretty sure that first story warrants a call from CPS like immediately.
Yep, like straight to the ER and then call CPS. Though the hospital might do that for them. No way in hell the mother should've been called to get the kid.
1:58 No, Click, they do have a choice. They can call CPS, because leaving a child at someone's doorstep without prior agreement and without seeing them face-to-face is child-abandonment under the law, if I'm not mistaken.
4:50 This is when the Best Man walks over to that couple and asks them to leave. You don't do that at a wedding.
43:00 100% true that some bullies only speak 'force'.
after trying EVERY "proper" strategy for dealing with bullies that were jumping me regularly after school (er... "Jumping" means ambushing in a group with physical violence... idk if that slang from the 90's is part of clicks repertoire) including involving the police (who did nothing because they weren't caught on camera, and it was 4-6 ppls words against my 1 persons' word, and we were all teens, thus untrustworthy in the eyes of the law) I finally found the one and only thing that worked.
I physically fought back the next time 4 of them jumped me after school, and won, leaving them all with bloody noses and black eyes, etc.
winning a fight 4-on-1 was _extremely_ gratifying, as I'd never felt empowered before in my whole life,
_almost_ as gratifying as telling the school admins I had no idea how these 4 teens that were older than me and that I'd already told on for beating me up got hurt... _and they "believed" me!_
I literally don't get why most bullies don't get deserved karma.
In other case, they can apologize for being a total dickhead
I think Click is right on the money at 40:50. Its not the partner the parents have a problem with, its the fact that their child is an adult now, and is living an adult life. The parents dont realize that if they want to keep their relationship with their daughter, they need to adapt and change the relationship. Even if OP got rid of her boyfriend, it wouldnt solve the core problem.
I get the feeling they genuinely don’t like him, but have trouble defining why. Unfortunately, it’s probably just because he isn’t an “alpha male” type, as the Dad’s criticisms all seem to be around “a real man…..”.
She really needs to tell her parents she’s “choosing” him, because he’s the one who would NEVER ask or expect her to choose.
last Eid, some family brought a child with the annoying squeaker shoes. do you understand how incredibly HARD it is to focus on prayers when there is a meat siren running around screeching and squeaking?
M e a t s i r e n
MEAT SIREN
Like for fucks sake buy your child another pair of shoes. I understand that squeaky shoes have a purpose - making sure you can hear the child if they wander off so they don't get lost. But there's no need for that at a wedding, or in any place that needs silence, or anywhere like that. Either get another pair of shoes or if for any reason you can't just make sure your kid doesn't run around interrupting. Or take them off if it's indoors as long as it's safe.
I saw another video today where a woman gave birth to twin girls. One had an allergy to coconut. When the twins were 1.5 they left the girls with the woman's mother. The mother then used coconut oil on the twin's hair then gave the allergic one a Benadryl before bed. The drug pretty much left the twin unable to do anything as the allergen caused her to swell up and suffocate overnight. It's been over 12 years and the surviving twin is withdrawn knowing she lost a part of herself and the mother is in therapy. The grandmother wasn't charged but has been blacklisted by her family.
26:56 something kind of like that can actually happen, cold urticaria. It's a fairly rare health condition where contact to cold objects or low ambient temperatures cause an allergy-like reaction, from simple itchy welts to swelling and in extreme cases even anaphylaxis.
"Every kid needs a parent, not every parent needs a kid" - a person of all time, i forgot
That's a great quote!
I looked into the first story a bit and found a post in a CPS subreddit under the same OP.:
"The only thing that happened was some officers came to take our statement. We obviously said we never agreed to take care of my niece and showed then all the text messages they left. My cousin lied saying I had agreed to watch her. My aunt (cousin's mom) not wanting her to get in trouble also lied to say I had agreed to watch her and said it was all an unfortunate misunderstanding."
The cousin still has custody. Which to me is a crying shame. Even if the porch was covered that's still so dangerous.
It's just insane how people can just try to lie about other people about "agreeing"
If the OP clearly says that they never agreed, the mother of the niece should be sued for child-endangerment & Child-Abandonment
Especially Kid-laundering because leaving your own kid without a reason & explanation is illegal
I'm so glad i was raised by a sane single mother! We got tattoos together instead of her being against it. We also got our noses pierced at the same, her younger sister, my aunt, joined us for the piercing.
I gave my daughter a tattoo for her 18th birthday.
I mean I paid for her tattoo.
Grieving mom who wanted OP's kid: this is how you wind up with Sleepaway Camp. IYKYK.
With what?
@@airacummins5076Sleepaway Camp is an old, small-budget horror film. (Spoiler alert) It’s got some interesting narratives, but the baseline is that several counselors/camp staff who have…pretty bad proclivities get killed by one of the campers.
It's a horror movie with a famous twist ending and it stems from a mother who couldn't properly handle the death of her daughter.
@gilded_lady ah, might google it
Edit: apparently the killer was a boy with a dead sister who's mom(?) Raised him like he was his sister?
@@airacummins5076It was Aunt Martha who raised Peter to become his dead sister Angela.
My mom is the kind of person who thinks that because she gave birth to me i have to do any and everything she asks. Some of it is reasonable like looking over my homework/grades, passing her water when shes thirsty but other times it's legit her look through my messages or my diary. The worst part is that everyone thinks its okay just because in my culture it normal for parents to be overprotective.
My mum is no bad mum, but every soo often she tries to guilt trip me with "all the things parents do for their children" Mum! I didn't ask you to give birth to me, it was your choice!
Yep. My parents tried to manipulate me with a diary when I was like 6 "So you can write in here if you don't want to talk to us" and promised not to read it. Now I didn't want to talk to them because they would use me asking for help against me, or shame me for stuff that was done to me because "You shouldn't have done that". Like a classmate stealing from me, apparently I was just supposed to tell them "No" and they would stop, and because they didn't stop it meant it was my fault for not being assertive. Like uh, why is this the 6 year olds problem, not the adults who are supposed to be in charge? Like I asked for help with a stealing classmate and their response was basically "You're a loser because you haven't already stopped them".
So I was suspicious and hid it where I knew it would be found, but couldn't be accidentally moved, taking careful note exactly how I placed it. Not even a couple days later it had moved. They tried to put it back exactly, but not well enough. I never used it and it was confirmed a few months later when they asked me why I never wrote in my diary. Like you mean the diary you promised to never look in? That diary?
Bruh, just because she gave birth to you does not make an excuse for her to think she has a "slave" all of the sudden..
@@rebny7801I told my mom that in an argument once and she finally backed down
I don't care if it's unrealistic or not, WE NEED A PARENT LICENSE!
HELL YEAH!!!
As an adult child of abusive parents, I agree wholeheartedly
You say that until it's used against marginalised people to claim they're "unfit to be parents" for no reason but the fact they're marginalised… while parents like these probably still manage to slip through anyways… it's unfortunately one of those thoughts that only work in a perfect world where people don't use things meant to help to suppress others. And such a world would maybe also be a enough world for such parents to not exist in the first place
@@tezzanoia On top of people having children anyways unregistered which already happens, and even with the current child protection services already struggling as it is, I can only imagine people protesting or even rioting on mass cause "freedom".
Also the moral question of forcefully taking a child away from a parent due to the parents lack of parent skill for varying reasons, will still scar the child as weather or not we see the horrid acts the parent did, the child still loves them and don't want to lose what they know.
Real life just sucks in general I've already concluded.
@@tim_the_traveler yeah, I agree, unfortunately it does. One thing I do think would be pretty useful would be free parenting classes and stuff like that, just more resources available for soon to be and new parents, with very open and clear information at places like the gynecologist and by midwives telling those parents "hey, here's a resource you can go to, it's free, you can get to know other (soon to be) parents and learn a thing or two and just have people to talk to about the struggles of becoming parents, a support network". It still wouldn't help against truly horrible people who are setting out to be horrible, but it may help those who suck because they're overwhelmed, could help recognise parents with mental health struggles and offering them counselling or therapy (or like helping to nudge them there) and things like that. And I think helping to get those who are in the grey area of being shitty parents but not on purpose to the better side of parenting would be a win. Again, those who really really suck and especially those who set out to be bad people won't really be affected by this I'm afraid, but sadly that's the case with almost all systems that could be put in place I'm afraid
I get so tired of hearing people use "my child" as a reason for everything.
I didnt have kids, and short of absolute abuse or psychological damaging things, i couldnt care less about what you think bothers your kids. Or what your kids need or what you think they should be entitled too.
Yep. At a pool I worked a couple tried to get me fired because they were "terrified" the sight of me would traumatize their "innocent children". Aka I'm trans. Problem is, they're kids were at least in their 30s, lived on the other side of the world, and were no contact (I only knew all this because whispering was not a concept they understood at all). Yeah, thankfully my boss was great and gave them "a super easy solution to their problem"- don't swim here and you won't have to see them anymore.
Ok whoa! The 1st story, where she abandoned the baby? The POLICE and CPS should have been called immediately!!! If the grandparents hadn’t come by, the baby would have DIED of THIRST(takes 3 days, or less for infants) or EXPOSURE. It’s a miracle it survived the night. Idk that this story was quite given the gravity it deserved
Yep. And the parents just called the mother? WTF, no, nobody who does that to their kid should be anywhere near children EVER.
Yo, memory unlocked! When I was really little, like maybe four or something, I had a pair of rubber duckie boots that had squeakers in them and they could keep me entertained for hours. I was like a dog with a chew toy when my parents brought me outside to play. I would simply step and stomp the entire time giggling about the duckie squeaks. I would throw a fit if they put any other shoes on me and I was devastated when I grew out of the boots. I loved those duckie boots so much.
I think the "therapy" would never actually end, i'm sure that woman would develop a connection with that child, and that would make it even worse.
23:00
I can actually answer that.. I am still in contract with my mother, just limited. And she was really gross when i found a partner.
I'm a trans guy and i'm dating a guy, so she started pushing me to have kids, cause she needs grandkids. We don't want kids and she only brings it up sometimes
Always weird to see that post out in the wild
It's such a wild social norm - I will never understand the entitlement of people, be it family or random ladies on the bus, to demand you have kids just because you bear a uterus. That your mother owns, apparently. If she wants babies so bad, she can use her other uterus. The one inside herself. Ugh.
Your tattoo is amazing and I wish you guys all the best!
My dad: I'm you're father, I have the right to know everything about everything about your life and keeping even tiny secrets will give you punishment
RUN!
Jesus christ, what a horrible "father." Get out as soon as you can. Run girl.
"Alright, well here's all the smut I whack it to-speaking of which, we need more lotion and tissues."
RUN AND SUE YOUR FATHER, THIS IS ILLEGAL.
@@AmieMorley-st6tz their name clearly states "Jacob"
Idk why you included "girl"
17:10 Nono Clicc - NOT petty - grieving and broken. She lost her own child, and is suffering a psychotic break.
Heartbreaking. She needs help. REAL HELP. NOT this crap that victimizes another innocent child.
To be clear, i haven't gotten past 17:21 yet. But I'm pretty darn confident of this.
I lost a child myself, many years ago. In group support, there was a wide range of how parents coped.
18:03 Yup. Dayum. Jeff is SICK😢😢😢
The grieving woman needs help, but OMG either the “grieving father” has no empathy or is also having a massive psychological break. It’s hard to know for sure but that family needs real help & the mother is very right to just enforce no contact.
Edit: Holy Crud - just got to the part with all the updates about the legal battle. I have no words.
@@SaezimmermanYeah, Jeff is a POS. Probably for the better that OP didn’t have a relationship with him.
The parents of the wife are now blaming the father for the death of the child claiming he shook her and blamed it on SIDS. Also sadly the wife is not around any longer, due to self inflicted means.
The story about the father wanting to use the child as a therapy doll literally made me cry lol
Totaly fair, its a trayedy with 4 victims and a monster
Dropping a child off at a place with no prior arrangement for childcare is classified as abandonment in the US. Like CPS is not joking even slightly. I once listened to my manager threaten to call CPS on a lady who was 2 hrs late to pick up her kid with no excuse. What that cousin did was abandonment, straight up and is the reason that law exists.
40:42 - That young lady needs to understand (and FAST, before any kids enter the picture) that who her boyfriend is, and what either of them do, will never be the issue; the issue is that previously, her parents had the most influence and control over her life and her choices, and her finding a life partner means that they are not the most important elements in her life anymore.
It's about maintaining control and keeping her under their thumbs. She and her partner will never be good enough for her parents, because the only "good" outcome to them is one where they are the center of her life until the day her parents die.
the first story is WILD that child could have died if not found for simple things like hunger or dehydration, not to mention all of the other horrible things like cayotes, a bad person founding them etc...
Yeah. At least the niece is safe but shouldn't be around a mother who doesn't care
the first story - a small child could die of dehydration within a few days, not to mention they can't moderate their body temperature as well as an adult, due to their small body mass. plus all of that, sitting in your own excrement for days can cause skin breakdown, leading to infection up to and including sepsis, which has a very high mortality rate.
the cousin should lose custody and go to jail. what a horrible person! and blaming op? wtaf? what would have happened if the grandparents hadn't come that day and the child sat until monday?
and the neglect is so obvious - when they didn't hear back from OP after an hour....two....five...? wouldn't you follow up..?
Royal Blue, Triceratops and because it's also important, my favourite planet after Earth is Pluto. You heard me.
Pluto is my favorite planet too
Agreed on first two, in fact I thought it might have been me but I prefer Neptune (I have a 3D-printed light-up Neptune in my living room - I don't 3D print but interact with people who do, while I crochet & they don't so...). But yep, Pluto IS a planet, because size doesn't make a planet: direct orbit round a sun does. And Pluto has a direct orbit, not a weird way-off-centre one like Halley's Comet.
@@elaineb7065 "direct orbit" just means that an object doesn't orbit a planet or moon, which makes it a moon or a moon-moon (yes, Moon-Moon is real.) Comets also have direct orbits.
The qualifiers of a planet are
1. Orbiting a star directly
3. Big enough to have a round shape
3. Dominating its orbit (concentrating most of the mass in its orbit in itself and any moons)
Well, Pluto is part of the Kuiper belt, meaning his orbital region contains several other dwarf planets and a lot of space rubble. His orbit is so eccentric that it crosses Neptune's.
The whole category of dwarf planets was created so we wouldn't have an ever-growing list of "planets" when only 8 of them are bigger than the Moon.
I wouldn't mind getting Ceres, Eris, and Pluto as planets, but the list just goes on and on and on.
Speaking of colours, I'm partial to phthalocyanine blue and quinacridone magenta.
I love Royal purple. I really like velociraptors. I think Saturn's a really neat planet.
Those parents probably would more readily accept an abusive boyfriend over the nice one their daughter has, because misogyny is a hell of a drug. Couple of cowards who can't even confront the person they dislike so much face to face
My mother now watches your videos (I mean conservative Christian mom) and she absolutely loves it 😂
Changed her views a lot. Thanks now she’s….
…bisexual….? NO WAIT 😭 now I have a stepmom thanks so much Click…
Wait this is legendary😭
I love this
Every time I feel insecure about not being the perfect Montessori parent I wish I was, I'll find a Click video and suddenly I feel like Mom of the Year! 😂
I am glad for two things- one, that I am finally here early enough for a video, and two, that I do not interact with any entitled parents on a regular basis. Thank goodness I finally got out of retail work
The whole wheelchair thing reminded me of something that happened to me a few years ago: I had to spend the whole month of december in the hospital after suffering a brain hemorrage... it was bad... as in "I woke up one morning and the whole left side of my body was limp, with no control nor sense of touch"
For my whole stay I was in a wheelchair, safe for when in the hospital gym to do rehabilitation or doing the walks with the stroller that the doctor told me to do to help me re-learn how to walk.
Anyway, one afternoon I came back to my room and one of the half dozen guests my roommate was having (note: one visitor at a time is the max allowed) was chilling sitting in my wheelchair like it was some sort of throne...
1 - that is a medical prevision, don't treat it like any seat
2 - even when the assigned patient is not there, that wheelchair belongs to someone who ACTUALLY NEEDS IT, so lift your lazy ass and if you are too tired to stand up I'll have you know there are a lot of free chairs in the waiting room
3 - what kind of adult doesn't respect a wheelchair and its purpose? I don't know how much open space there is in the empty skull of that moron, but I sure am not eager to sit in one of those things again.
Respect hospitals.
Respect patients.
Respect anything related to them, you really don't want to be in their place or know how it feels.
That "therapy kid" thing was just so unhinged. How would the wife ever be able to recover, if they got a new kid "temporarily" that she in her delusion thinks is HER kid! It just wouldn't work. So crazy.
One of my best friends got married, there was a 50s polkadot theme for the bridesmaids and flower girl who was the brides 2yr niece. The flower girl had on these adorable ladybug shoes that matched her dress perfectly. There was just one problem. They squeaked. No one not even the mum who bought the shoes knew this until they were put on her feet at the wedding. Everyone thought it was adorable surprise, her squeaking down the aisle dumping the whole box of flower petals in one place. The shoes were swapped for the rest of the day after the photos.
That's really cute and a good way to deal with that.
My favorite colors are black, gold (as an accent color), pink (as an accent color), dark red, and dark blue.
My favorite dinosaur is probably a raptor. Raptors are smart hunting/scavenging animals like humans. So I like to think they would've kept humans as pets if they survived long enough and then later promoted them to an allied species.
What's this got to do with _anything_ in this video? Did you have a brain fart & reply to the wrong video?
@@DrachenGothik666 Did you not watch the video?
7:15
Raptors are awesome and scary! My favorite is a Compy. They're so little and cute but terrifying too. I also like Gallimimus because...look at them. So dopy.
Royal blue & the gentle but brutal when need be (& they needed to be) tanks like Triceratops & Spinosaur. There was also one of a similar vein who could use their tail as a big old club I'm sure
@@DrachenGothik666
Click said it's sad adults don't share their favourite colours or "childish" interests anymore. Two or three times, actually. Anyway, my favourite colours are black, purple (light and dark), and green (almost all shades)
Fun fact: the reason why men in historical dramas from Korea, China and Japan have long hair is because in ancient times they did believe your body was the property of your parents and you therefore could not cut your hair as it actually wasn’t yours.
And that, dear children, is why "culture" isn't always an excuse, and why we shouldn't let awful things happen just because of tradition, or culture, or a groups beliefs!
On the other note, they have some beautiful hair ngl
(maybe I'm just biased because I'm East Asian lol)
@@crowdemon_archives they do. I’m wondering what my half Japanese grandson’s hair will look like
I would literally just stop existing on my own if my parents were this evil.
@@crowdemon_archives I'm South Korean (South Asian)
And I do agree most Asians do have nice hairstyles, although I really don't go soaring around and complimenting people for their hair, it's only an occasion if they're a nice person
On the one where the parents are weirdly against their daughter's boyfriend . . . I could be borrowing trouble, I might just watch too much TV or something, but . . . maybe the boyfriend and the girlfriend should both take a DNA test, just to be 100% sure there's nothing there the parents know that they don't :[]
I can somewhat sympathize with the woman in the stroller trying to get a spot on the bus... its kinda frustrating that some busses don't have more than one space for strollers and wheelchairs...or bikes. I park my bike there sometimes :p But if there's a wheelchair user or a stroller getting on the same buss (and its not one of those busses with multiple spots) I just leave... I can imagine its annoying if two people who ACTUALLY need that space needs to get on the same buss... But getting mad at a wheelchair user and accusing them of faking a disability isn't helping... especially if your stroller is foldable. Blame the buss company in that case for not being accommodating enough for people with disabilities and small children.
Heck I recall one time a buss had to LEAVE a wheelchair user behind... not because the spot was taken but because the lift they use to get them onboard wasn't working (which was a common problem with those busses... thankfully they're no longer in use) They called a taxi for them but still... it was freezing cold that day and the wheelchair user probably had to wait at least 5 minutes if not more for a cab to arrive in freezing snow...
"No really asks about your favorite color after a certain age, which is a shame."
Ok everyone, what's your favorite color?
teal
Purple, what's yours?
@@idontknow55573 Blood red, thank you for asking!
@shadow_leaf7965 Ooo nice choice :)
Pink!
24:30 Okay, Internet Uncle-Gay🏳🌈 and husband have lived at the same house for 25 years now. We have, during that time, periodically gotten mail for one of the other houses on the block, whether the house next door, or 4 houses down.
_Never, _*_EVER_* have we opened a letter meant for one of the neighbors. And we always, _always, _*_always, ALWAYS_* take the letter over to the correct address and put it in the mailbox within 12 hours.
That, children, is called *_RESPECT_* - respect for other people, respect for your community, _respect for federal law governing the mail._ Practice Respect.
This has been a public service announcement from your Internet Uncle-Gay🏳🌈.
It's good to return the packages & mails to the right addresses.
Oh and it would be good to set up a note sign "hey delivery person, please leave the packages & mail to the right addresses!"
@Theonly_z_Official Hey, mistakes happen! And we've been living in the same house for 25 years now, so gotta expect a few goof ups.
Oh dang a new subreddit for Click, honestly can't believe he hasn't done this subreddit yet till now.
If something happens to a child in that phase "before they can remember" it's 100x (i don't actually how much worse) more psychologically damaging because that's when the pathways to which you process your physical world are developing, so that individuals subconscious brain will remember what happened to them, and react in ways that the adult individual doesn't understand (abandonment issues), because they don't remember what happened, but their subconscious is setting off all the alarms to make sure it never happens again, because that's where the "memory" is stored at that age.
That child could have been torn apart by animals. That child abuser needs to be in jail.
I HAVE ORDERED A DEMON OF PRIDE AND EMOTIONAL SUPPORT!🎉🎉
AYE!! YESS
24:49 this reminds me of the traumatize them back story where the lady and her kid kept getting the persons packages, so she ordered a spider and they got scared by the spider. The kid was crying and everything I'm pretty sure.
Tho6gh she didn't order the spider with the intent of scaring the neighbors, it was just as a pet
@@feuerling I know.
Ngl I thought it was gonna be the same story at first
drinking game: take a shot for every time the click says "that/this is wild/absolutely wild"
jokes aside, I'm surprised this was never covered 💀 you're in for one hell of a roller coaster my guy, enjoy the ride and the frustration that comes with it
Naaahhhhh man, imma be absolutely SLOSHED 😂😂😂
7:21 I ask people their favourite colour all the time and when they answer I say “congratulations you have won a spot in my tomodachi life save! I’ll take good care of you :D”
25:25 not only is it illegal, it’s a felony! A federal crime that can be punished by up to 5 years imprisonment as well as heavy fines
3:31 Think. This person's parents called the child's parents instead of police. HMM I WONDER WHERE THAT KIND OF NEGLIGENT BEHAVIOR WAS LEARNED....
Me, having previously seen the Katie/Gabrielle story on other channels; "Oh great, this psycho again".
Click, reading it blind, not knowing what's coming: "Wow calling her Gabby is so petty!"
Me, pointlessly to my tv screen; "Oh Click, no, it's SO much worse than that.
18:47 i absolutely hate when people treat kids as if theyre just objects. its TERRIBLE for a childs development to be treated like they are lesser than or just some "possession." this is INSANE.
40:32 If I had to guess the parents have seen the writing on the wall and realized that if their daughter marries the boyfriend, the new couple will not be raising their children to be misogynistic. So when the (grand)parents try to enforce their misogyny onto the grandchildren they're eventually going to be going no contact. They want their daughter to marry someone who isn't going to allow her free agency.
So I do have a few theories on the "my parents dislike my boyfriend for no reason" post. 1 it isn't about race but maybe religion? My family's church tried to get me to break up with my now husband because he's Wiccan, or 2 they had someone picked out and her getting her own boyfriend prevents them from trying to foist this person upon her as who they approve of her marrying.