Olympian Dominique Moceanu Models A Fresh Start For American Gymnasts
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
- Every four years, the Olympic Games give us a brief glimpse into the world of gymnastics -- strength, determination, and focus all on display. Rarely do we see the sometimes-seamy underside to all those graceful leaps, high-flying flips, and winning smiles.
That changed one year ago, in a Michigan courtroom.
More than 150 current and former athletes ripped back the curtain, documenting decades of sexual abuse by Larry Nassar, the former team doctor for USA Gymnastics and for Michigan State University. Displaying the power and strength normally reserved for their routines, they spoke out not only against Nassar, but against the negligence of the other adults in charge -- the ones who profited from their excellence and were supposed to protect them.
Nassar will spend the rest of his life in prison, but even today, the institutions where he worked continue to unravel. MSU Interim President John Engler resigned last month, driven from office after telling a newspaper reporter that some of the victims in the Nassar case appeared to be "enjoying the spotlight."
Last month, the U.S. Department of Education blasted Michigan State's handling of the Nassar case and other sexual assaults on campus, saying the school may have violated federal laws; and now faces heavy fines.
In December, USA Gymnastics, the sport's governing body, filed for bankruptcy amid lawsuits filed by hundreds of Nassar victims. The entire board resigned and, after multiple hirings and firings, the organization remains leaderless.
In an extended interview, Olympic gold medalist Dominique Moceanu discusses life as a world-class gymnast and the physical and emotional toll she endured -- and eventually helped expose. Moceanu also shares her thoughts on the current state of gymnastics, and how she’s using her experience to make a difference in the lives of local gymnasts.
It makes me sick. I worshipped Dominique as a kid. She was let down by every single adult in her corner. I’m so grateful that the younger gymnasts today have such role models.
Me too. She really should be running the USAG. They're a hideous entity.
@@summerwest3099 Yes, I didn't really start to realize until recently how deep the abuse stemmed.
Wow - she needs to be the head of USA Gymnastics! So intelligent and well spoken and smart!
she is a real champion for her cause. such growth from the little girl we all remember from '96.
@@poop97938 she doesn’t owe you anything dude
@@rdvc1 Exactly
@@poop97938 I don’t understand what that has to do with the original comment
@@poop97938 “no one cares about gymnastics except little 5 year olds” ... this is how I know that you are completely delusional.
USA gymnastics needs to be run by ex gymnasts moving forward
Excellent idea!!!
Secured Certification Rhonda Faehn is an ex gymnast. She was almost the new Marta Karoli. Left Florida to take the helm. Then all hell broke lose... hired by Michigan university and fired because of her involvement in the scandal
exactly
That's the best idea for gymnastics I've ever heard!
Marta was a gymnast, so...
I'm so proud of Dominique. The tiny little girl who suffered in silence is now a grown woman who will NOT be silenced. She was an amazing athlete, and has grown into an equally amazing human being. I have always been and will always be a fan of hers. She is truly a championship in every sense of the word
Dom, I know you'll probably never read this, but I'm glad your passion for gymnastics never died, despite everything that happened to you. I'm glad that you're helping to make the world of gymnastics safer for younger generations and keeping the passion for the sport alive. :)
Personally I think that Dominique should be the leader of usa gymnastics. She at least cares about all of the children that she coaches and helps. She is such an inspirational woman. I wish her and her family nothing but the very best for their lives.
What a woman she has turned into. I pray that her gymnastics academy is successful and prosperous. Using your experience to make someone else's better is so selfless. Dominique is the change that gymnastics needs. I hope more people follow her example and her lead! This whole package was wonderful.
she was sharp as a tack even as a 14 year old
@@otherworld11 YES!!! And I mean SHARP!
I mean, she’s the definition of “be the change you want to see in the world.”
YUP! That's my girl! I have been a fan of hers for many years, and I think she's a great role model. I like how she stuck up for Simone because she knows what it's like to be there.
Dominique and her gymnastics school’s philosophy are wonderful, innovative, and much needed!!
Why the hell would anyone give her a thumbs down? This is such a great interview.
She's an amazing public speaker, very articulate and clear. Also an incredible athlete.
It is so refreshing to see how she managed to come back from the trauma she suffered. Moreover, she chose to put this positivity to the service of future olympians. Respect and congratulations, Madam.
#dominiquemoceanu
I'm so proud of her. I remember her as the little girl in the '96 Olympics and she has grown into the type of strong and caring woman that the head of gymnastics should be, she took everything she went through and used it to be the change she wanted to see in the world, in gymnastics. She didn't give up on gymnastics because of the darkness but instead is changing it for good. Wouldn't it be awesome to see her in a future Olympics as a coach.
She was short before. Got tall
She’s a bad ass! She was telling them ten years before the Nassar stuff came out.
Leah Hart Exactly! She focuses on the whole athlete and that's awesome.
There was a book written just before the ‘96 Olympics called “Little Girls In Pretty Boxes” which told of the mental abuse and injuries suffered by Karolyi’s girls and pretty much every supporter of U.S.A Gymnastics wrote off the book as lies and jealousy by athletes who didn’t make the Olympic teams, but they were telling the truth!
Trish Lamour there was also a movie made that I saw on Lifetime when I was young. Because of that movie my parents kept a really close eye
Trish Lamour totally remember that book
Years later and we find out that it wasn’t as bad as the book said
It was WAY worse
I had a copy of the book in the late 90s. I also had the Lifetime movie, staring Swoosie Kurtz recorded on VHS! I think its crazy how great NBC made it all seem when Martha took over after the rough 1997-2000 quad. They always said everyone was on the same page, Martha worked so well with all the individual coaches, the athletes were both happy and hard-working ECT... Growing up reading that book, I definitely knew skating and gymnastics had to be two of the toughest sports! I I assumed some of the book was true and some exaggerated for drama. However, what we know now is much worse than I could have ever imagine! Its incredibly sickening! 😞
The Athlete A documentary on Netflix talks about their ruthless coaching style and the Nassar scandal
Dominique Moceanu is such a strong person. I admire her even MORE than I did during her days as an athlete (and an incredible athlete she was)!
What is not mentioned in this video was that in 2007 during the time when Dominique was writing her book "Off Balance," taking her final exams to finish college, and 9 months pregnant with her first child, she also discovered via a certified letter that she had gotten in the mail that year that she also had a long lost biological sister that had been given up for adoption by her parents back in 1985 simply because the child was born without legs. Her biological sister's name is Jen Bricker and she has a really amazing story. When Jen was born in Illinois, Dominique's parents immediately gave her up for adoption because doctors at the hospital advised them that they would be unable to afford Jen's medical bills. Jen was adopted by an amazing family who raised her with one simple rule. Never say the word "Can't." Even though Jen Bricker did not have legs, that did not stop her from loving gymnastics, playing basketball, volleyball, and softball in school. Jen Bricker even won an Illinois state championship in power tumbling all whilst completing against able bodied children with legs. Dominique was originally Jen's idol having watched her compete in the '96 Atlanta Olympics on TV. Then eight years later in 2003 when Jen was much older, her adopted parents shared the adoption papers with her, and revealed to her that Dominique was more then just her idol, she was her biological sister. The adoption was supposed to have been a closed adoption, but the social worker who worked the case failed to redact the names of Jen's biological parents off the copies of the adoption papers that her adoptive parents received. Once Jen Bricker learned this, it would take her four more years to make contact with Dominique via the certified letter she wrote to Dominique, which she included copies of the adoption papers. Dominique had to go back and revise her book "Off Balance" and included a chapter on the lost sister. To learn more about Jen Bricker, search her. There are a lot of videos about her on here. Jen is now grown up and she has gone on to have a successful career as an entertainer, aerialist, and public speaker. She has written her own book titled "Everything Is Possible" which made the New York Times Best Seller list. What Jen doesn't have in legs, she's made up for it by having really big biceps. Jen went to a high school that was built in 1910, had four floors, and no elevators. Jen used to have to climb four flights of stairs to go to classes everyday on her hands and rear end.
Robbie Stewart I remembered some of this, but not all. Thank you for sharing!!!!
Robbie Stewart Omg. Those 2 sisters are so amazing. No one could make this up. What a beautiful success story fir both sisters!
Wow "simply" because she HAD NO LEGS....
I'm so glad you informed everyone about this. It's a major part of her life story that not only is a crucial part of her life's path, but also one for her sister. Despite having grown up apart, they both beat the odds in harrowing conditions. Ironically, even though Dominique had parents, she grew up around an abusive father and the demands of Olympic success. Her sister, however, talks about being so fortunate to have the most loving and adoring parents, even though she had a handicap--one she never felt limited by. There's a video of the two sisters speaking about all of this, and it's worth a watch! They look SO much alike. A DNA test wouldn't have even been necessary to know they're related. lol
Nunovurbznzsodontask it's honestly pathetic that you think her opening up about experience with abuse as an adolescent is a ploy to seek attention and adulation. Maybe, I dunno, it's a way for her to put the grief into words and help others who have or could go through a similar circumstance.
But, let's go with your assumption and think the worst of ppl. Pretty easy to do.
Yes! “Be the change.” *She IS walking the walk!!* ❤️
*I want to teach them coping mechanisms that they will be grateful for later on.*
This is how you lead these young souls to success. She has immeasurable passion inside of her, one that can not be taught; only felt. She was BORN for this.
Read “Little girls in pretty boxes”. It’s a good read. Moceanu has been saying this stuff was true for literally decades. From the time she emancipated herself at age 15. Everyone blew her off, but she was right.
That was an excellent book
It was a good movie, too.
@@CSgtDad I read it when it first came out and have never forgotten it. I saw gymnastics in a totally different light after that.
@@ilanamillion8942 I was lucky. I loved my gymnastics career. I ate, breathed, and slept gymnastics. I had a wonderful coach! I can’t imagine what those elite gymnast went through
17, but yeah
Moceanu is so intelligent, articulate, sane, loving. I loved her as a gymnast. It's hard to hear the things she & the other young women went through.
The yoga is such a brilliant idea. Dominic had that strength and clarity inside to speak out.
Her floor exercise to "Devil Went Down to Georgia" was one the most enjoyable events of the games. Every time I heard that song, thereafter, thoughts of her routine came to mind.
She's teaching them to be resilient and that's so valuable. I hope she is around for a long time.
This is needed. I’m so glad she has stayed In the sport and is making a change.
My father took me to Karolyi's gym and I "auditioned" for one of his coaches while my father sat in Bela's office with him and talked. I met Bela, too. I was 15 at the time (1985) and hadn't had much consistent formal training. I could only tumble and do a little vault and beam. So they said I'd never go higher than their Class 1 status, the class just below their elite gymnasts (as in 4,3,2,1,Elite). I was aging out of the sport already. I was disappointed so I declined to continue my gymnastic efforts at that time. I never tumbled again. Now, hearing this, I am glad! I dodged a bullet! I have chronic pain and Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome, arthritis, Grade IV DJD, need both hips replaced and both knees operated on, and can't imagine how much worse I'd feel now if I had stayed with Bela.
I’m sorry you have to suffer all that. Also have chronic pain and EDS, never been a gymnast. But I often wonder, now that we know about Ehlers Danlos (a genetic condition for those who may come across this and unfamiliar), I wonder if it was highly correlated with being in sports like gymnastics (or figure skating or ballet …) because flexibility is often an advantage. Put all those years of extreme stress on the body plus EDS, seems a recipe for chronic pain and even mobility issues down the line. 😕 Wish you some relief after your treatments/surgeries.
Dominique M has been one of my favorite gymnasts, she was apart of my childhood with only a year apart btwn us. I remember watching her at the qualifying competition in '95 and then right b4 the '96 games. Despite all that these Woman went through that was the best Olympic games in Atlanta. Kudos to her for everything she's doing today
Dominique
Stand up for what is right even if you are the only one standing. I fought sexual harassment in the Marine Corps. It was hard, what you have fought was hard. Good job!
She should be the head of USA Gymnastics
Yes!
Most definitely!
She is such a mentally strong and brave woman. She spoke the truth and maintained it, even though it harmed her career and reputation in the sport. The Karolyes tried to break her, but couldn't, at least not permanently. It's so encouraging to see a totally positive gymnastics environment at her gym. The sport is so desperately in need of that. I hope that she can become a leader in a new direction for the sport.
Wow. She was a force to be reckoned with as a little girl and grew in to such a powerful positive woman and role model. Kudos to you Dominique. Amazing.
What's Dom M.'s height now? She grew tremendously...BOTH physically and mentally.
What an exceptional woman....She seriously should be an athlete advocate for women's gymnastics...I'm humbled by her strength and her insight....
Dominique was amazing then and still now.
She should be the new leader of the USA gymnastics
Awesome. Dominique was an amazing gymnast and an incredible person. So encouraging!
Pioneer of change for women's gymnastics. Moceanu deserves so much respect!
She’s so beautiful, inside and out. I was 26 in ‘96, and she along with D. Dawes & Strug were my gold fav’s; after Retton in ‘84.
These woman turned their gold medals into hearts of gold. Amazing.
She was and is my favorite gymnast of all time and I think the Karoylis messed up her path forcing her to compete starved and injured. She seems like such an amazing teacher though and like the little girl said she has the insight from personal experience.
She seems very mature and well-balanced. I wish her and her family and gym all the best.
Loved watching her compete when she was a child but dear lord - had no idea this stuff was going on in the background. The fact that she's turned into a really mature person, despite everything -- wow. All the best to her.
I absolutely love how this whole experience ties into a conversation about bringing in the past experience, changing things so that we parent better, we protect far more often and thoroughly. Thank you Dominique. Every sports parent needs to think this way. Bravo.
Kudos to Dominique!! Many people think she spoke out against the Karolyi's out of bitterness. NO! She was abused as were other gymnasts and tried to warn USA Gymnastics, but nobody listened. She is taking that experience and doing her best to see it doesn't happen to her gymnasts. She's wonderful!!
Nadia Comaneci and her husband Bart Conner have a gymnastics school also. She also has free medical clinic in Romania
What an incredibly well spoken, smart , lovely young woman Dominique grew into. Congratulations on your success - may it continue forever.
This was nicely put Dominique!
I live in Canada and enjoy watching the sport! You are right that the sport in the US is needing a new governing body! I'm glad that you spoke out regardless of what other people said and did or rather didn't do! I think maybe you yourself if you can be part of that governing body or at least be on the board to keep people on track!
I love this woman. She is such a beautiful and talented young woman. Congratulations to Dominique. She is such an inspiration and she sounds like a great person. I really hope that she is that amazing and great change.
I have a lot of respect for Dominique, also. One time, a guest I met, was wearing a shirt with Moceanu's name on it.
I'm so proud of her! I was there when she won Nationals in New Orleans I believe in 1995.
I was so in love with her when I was 11 years old. I'll never forget watching the 96 olympics.
Wonderful lady. So obvious what she is saying about listening to our bodies- yet the so called 'experts' ignored the fatigue and overuse injuries. I love the way she calls it out as abuse. Thank you for being the first to speak out. Sending you my respect from Ireland
She's so amazing to come out so strong and inspirational after all that! I love that she is teaching coping mechanisms to her gymnasts since that's so important and no one ever talks about it.
She was vilified after her book came out...now we see that she was in NO way exaggerating the abuse in USA gymnastics.
I read her book but I didn't realize she was vilified. Wow.
My granddaughter has been fortunate enough to be a gymnast training at DMC. It has been a fantastic once in a lifetime experience for her.
the testimonies of her students say it all. not just their words, but their smiles, their body language. Dominique is doing good things within this sport, let's hope that other coaches listen to her methods
How time flies! That cute little girl from the 1996 Atlanta games is all grown up.
Great job Dominique. What a fantastic way to of sharing your story with millions and being the first to speak up about it.
She’s always been amazing. I was 10 when she went to the Olympics, it’s beautiful the woman she has become. Most gymnast will not make it to the Olympics, or even level 10 if you build a love for the sport and a strong mental background these kids can go far in life even if they don’t make it to the national stage. Love love love her new motto.
This woman is so inspiring. I hope to be the change in competitive dance. Terribly toxic environments!
I always thought she was so pretty as a kid & she still is. Look at that beautiful posture as she sits there in that interview. So great to see her. You rock!
Dominique Moceanu was one of my favorite gymnast since I saw her at the Olympics in 96... Watching this video just makes me love her even more. Thank God for strong women like her... and Shout out for adding yoga to her training facility! I do yoga myself and it helps me a lot. Hopefully her gym will be as successful as it should be...
My niece wants to become a gymnast and I just hope that she can find a coach as awesome as Dominique
I’ve looked up to her since I was 9 years old. Still love her! Go Dominique!
Same here absolutely loved her and Vanessa Atler.
I’m glad that Dominique came forward early on even when it was unpopular and she was Scored so much about what she said.. at first the truth will piss people off and then it will set them free. What amazes me is that they did get Nassar, & he had his day in court and is now in prison. I didn’t understand why Marta & Bella were not held accountable or responsible for any of this. I’m sure they heard things from the girls or could’ve heard gossip and did nothing just like the other women that these girls went to who were associated with the gymnastic training that just brushed this man’s actions aside.
Monterey Harris the girls didn’t talk about it, no one knew. There’s no way to really know what B&M knew, I honestly believe they didn’t know. No one talked about it, Nassar got away with it with parents IN the same room and they didn’t know. Sad either way...
Marieke D There are girls who did talk about it, girls had spoken about it in the 90’s and were brushed off. It was brought up in court.
Dominique you were right from the beginning and the "culture" didn't care, just wanted the gold. I am glad the true is finally out and that horrible ranch is closed forever. Martha and Bela will always be remembered as disgusting individuals. Take care.
Larry Nassar had nothing to do with that ranch & he was the worst thing in that sport. You're a fool if you believe the abuse began & ended at Bela & Marta's ranch. Abuse was rampant throughout the sport. Why else would the governing body be in shambles? Get a brain.
Nassar had a room in that ranch where he continued sexually abusing the gymnasts. Stated by them in court.
@@lookaround1846 So that means it's okay to abuse young kids? You're one sick fuck!
@@lhart99 yes, that is exactly what Elinor is saying. You do realize dominque was abused right? 14 years old and a gold medalist? The rules have been SPECIFICALLY changed so that no one under 16 can compete in gymnastics. What 10 or 11 year old has the mental capacity to say "hey, I want to ruin my childhood development so I can have a chance at a medal in a sport people only care about every 4 years"? Dominique lacks a lot of standard mental development that occurs during those pre-pubescent years.
@@ctruth6185 he had EVERYTHING to do with that ranch. Watch Athlete A, the abused gymnasts that are interviewed specifically state that he was there and that he played and preyed off the ranch's cruelty simply by being nice.
I hope more gymnasts start coming in and say, "We know how we were treated. It wasn't right. We're going to make this different!" And as they become coaches, organizers, and leaders, they create a new code of ethics for people to follow when coaching and training.
I hope other sports start to pick up and say the same. I hope MMA fighters start to say "No more" to weight cuts that have negatively affected their performance and their lives. I hope body builders say, "No more" to mentors and trainers that encourage steroid use.
I love you.I was a commenwelth gymnast in Nz( I was selected when I was 5,I’m 37 now)I was trained everyday,Seven days a week,taken out of school.I was on a squad for CSG and it started to get so much I wasn’t allowed to eat as a normal child, I won so many competitions but if I dared cried it was hell.By all means I was not abused the way my hero’s all of you guys were as i was taken back too England by my parents ( not through my choice at all my parents ruined my career in the sport but looking back now I could of seen it happening.I’ve read your book and you are amazing.I ended up anorexic/ bulimic/suffer with bipolar and anxiety.You have been through so much and the children under your care are extremely lucky and loved by you xx
How wonderful and ironic would it be if Dominique was the new face of USA Gymnastics!
Why isn’t she the head of USA gymnastics?
Mrs. OlLady her and Valerie Kontos-Fields from UCLA.
I thought the same thing hearing her discussion. She's seen the negative, has been there as a child/youth and seems competent enough to correct and set that national sport body straight.
Did you not watch the video?? She was seen as a pariah after her book exposing the abuse at Karolyi’s gym... they would never give her any position in the organization for blowing the whistle like that
Mrs. OlLady she and Aly Raisman should be co-heads. If anyone can bring about the necessary change, it's these two working together.
I think she prefers to work at the grass roots of the sport rather than being at the top table, though she would be an excellent advisor for the organisation.
I loved watching you perform, Dominque!! You are a true inspiration to not only your sport, but to women everywhere!! Much love and admiration to you and your girls that you’re coaching. They’re very lucky to have such an amazing coach! 💗💗💗
She’s always been my absolute favorite!
She's amazing. I worked hard to flip like her an proud to say I still can.
What a courageous woman!
Dominique Moceanu is a brave voice of reason and truth. Well done! and thank you for speaking out on your and others behalf of abuse and unnecessary treatment of athletes who deserve better
I had wondered recently what Dominique Moceanu was up to. I remember watching her achieve so much at such a young age, but the cost was more than any of the spectators knew at the time. I truly hope that more people find a positive way to move forward and change the sport for generations to come.
amazing person, so much wisdom, and heart!!
Born chain breaker. 👍
it makes perfectly, logical sense that a gymnast of her caliber would be coaching and owning her gym. She is filled with knowledge & experience that she can guide others to be their best. She competed with an injury at those games. She fought through it helped her team and won a gold medal. She paid a price for success. Good to know she's strong and healing through what she endured. She will likely head up the new governing body. Dominique has so many ideas about running & building up her sport.
Yo Go Woman!!! I remember you as a child. And your book was an eye opener for me
Love, admire and respect beautiful, talented Dominique since then! A forever champion and example of life by her achievements, love, light, fulfilling dreams, nice smile, and expressive eyes...We thank her for it. I´m so glad that new young gymnasts have the example of life, passion, and knowledge of former and forever great gymnasts. These amazing women are the ones that should be the head of the USA Women´s Team. But I understand that training and preparing young girls with this sensitive and comprehensive teaching is much more important for happier kids. Love watching her son and husband. Infinite love and blessings always...
Wow she's amazing absolutely loved her book.
She is intelligent and eloquent.🙏God bless you Dominic.She should be the
Head of USA gymnastics.🙏🙏🙏🩷
How could mandatory reporting have not been the standard??? Mind-boggling. Kudos all the advocates especially Dominique ❤️
I love her. I wish they would let her lead the team.
She is incredible and I love the way she teaches her kids!
Great feature. Thank you for sharing candidly and refusing to sugar coat US gymnastics atrocities.
This is a wonderful interview. I hope the gym is successful! I would love to have my kid train there!
Dominique was my hero growing up. She still is 25 years later.
She's absolutely right about her type of experience leading to the nassar monster. I remember watching Dominique in 97 as an 8 year old. Shes exactly the same in her earnestness
Love it - So well done .
This was so touching to watch. I loooved Dominique in the Olympics (Devil went down to GA, cutest floor routine ever!) was saddened to hear of the things she had gone through, but look at her now. Her STRENGTH and her leadership. God bless you, Dominique. Keep doing YOU. 💕
Domonique was one of my favorite gymnasts..She was such a sweet little girl with those big,beautiful eyes..I'm so sorry,her time at the Ranch was so hard and abusive..That should have never happened.I respect her for coming forward ,it took courage.
Oh dear God, my Child...how you have grown.
To be a woman, a mother, a teacher and protector.
May the Good Lord bless all who have come into your light
Thank you.
We needed this. And in 2020, we need it more than ever.
Good for Dominique for taking a leadership role and providing a positive experience for her young athletes!
I know a girl who switched from my gym, to this one!
Fantastic. Love her. Always believed her when so few did.
Those people who called themselves your friends and then they black list you and then abandon you are not true friends. You don't need those kinds of people in your life.
I remember them saying it was only Dominique and Kerri in the ranch before the Olympics. I thought that was very strange. You could tell the girls were scared. I can’t imagine the abuse that went on with only two of them there.
OMFG-I-WAS-LITERALLY-THINKING-OF-THIS-IDEA-DURING-MY-YOGA-PRACTICE-TODAY!!!!!!!!!!!
You are an amazing gymnast...but more importantly an amazing woman
WOW EXCELLENT! What a brave woman! Thank you for sharing her story!!!
You are so awesome, Dom. Wow
So glad the gymnasts these days look hearty and healthy. They aren’t tiny anymore. They are built looking like they can handle what their body goes through
The 2 dominiques Dawes n moceanu r the best that ever did it
I can relate to you Dominique. I have Eastern European parents. They screwed me over royally. My American perspective saved me. Violence is cyclical and we all need creation and positive energy and light.
The timing wasn't right for her voice to be heard back then. Look at what has happened not only with athletes, but religion, Hollywood and several others. It's time for the dominoes to fall now, the energy is better for that to happen. More to come, the dark needs to come to the surface to be cleansed. More women needed to speak up as a group to get action.
Thank you for teaching them the right way - love the yoga, would love meditation also. Not only are the girls away from home and just training, they also have to take care of their minds, emotions and stress of doing it the right way.