In the 1970s, I had a used Hillman Imp Californian (cost me £100 to purchase lol) and the heater packed up. I didn't get it repaired, so drove around for 2 winters in the UK with no heater. It was rather chilly at times, and I remember having to scrape the ice from the inside of the windscreen (I did try not to breathe, but obviously had to every so often 😂😂) as I was driving along, plus had to stop every frequently to scrape the ice from the outside of the windscreen. I was only 20 then and can honestly say that having no heater didn't really bother me......though it definitely would now. I imagine that for some people having very little heat in the Ami will not bother them at all, and they will put up with and cope with the cold.
Well, the only thing that this gal from the Canadian prairies (the coldest place in Canada) can recommend is warm clothing, a plug in thermal heating blanket/throw, and these things called 'hot pocs' by Grabber that you put inside your gloves and boots. They have a chemical reaction when initiated and keep you toasty warm for hours. They even have 'bun warmers' for frosty seats and peel on body warmers. Apparently it's all the rage with the ice fishing and snowmobiling community! The bonus is that they don't draw one k watt of power and they aren't a fire hazard..... 😉
Your welcome. I keep recommending you, and your channel, to all my friends too, keep up the great work, I must say, your editing and camera work is second to none, really professional, technical and sophisticated shooting techniques and brilliant beautiful editing to top it off. Thanks, it must take a long time but it’s definitely worth it, I can’t help thinking that you and Mr Boo would be perfect for a new series of “Wish you were here”, 😂. the quality of your work is good enough to compete with shows such as the one mentioned. Also, sorry to mither you,, you are probably really busy but, do you think could you tell us what the French/English song is called that you play when driving about?, the one with “Let’s rob a bank”I know all the words now, I can almost sing it all the way through, furthermore, I’m learning French from your show dag nammit 😂. I’ve been a truck driver for 20+years and those roads frighten me senseless, I used to deliver linen to hotels, so some of the places I’ve seen have been quite tight, but those roads are a different kettle of fish, your breaks would be on fire on some of those hills 😂. You 2 are crazy and, quite frankly, I applaud it, you never fail to make me laugh on your crazy adventures in your little Noddy car 😂. Thanks for teaching me French and making it a pleasure to learn, both at the same time!😂.
@@BrianPseivaD it’s les figures by the devils sway. Yes I go through a lot of disks for my bike brakes round here. I think brake people do very well in these parts!
Hi, a pair of sheepskin seat covers (real not fake) will help. Warm in winter, cool in summer, fire retardant. Used a lot in aircraft interiors as an upgrade for crews.
Hi lads from Spain. We have several of those things from Lidl, for use around the house since we don't have central heating here. We do tend to find that the thermostatic control goes wrong fairly quickly and they are a devil to repair. Stay charged and keep warm, winter is coming.
You may want to consider a heating blanket or heating pillow made by stoov. You can drape the blanket over your seat and they work great. You can charge them at home and take them along on your trips. 😊
When I had a motor cycle, much to my mums amusement I had a hot water bottle down inside my coat, it worked so well keeping me warm, it never got cold, perhaps these days one of those microwave ones might help you both! I laugh so much watching your videos, love you both & Twiggy. John in Monmouth uk
That was fun and interesting, thanks guys! Tim, when you brought up the issue drafts and insulation, I thought how similar the Ami is to a light aircraft, how you often freeze your arse off with 200mph sub-zero drafts the measures I used to implement when doing new interiors on old airplanes. First, with the interior removed down to bare metal, I would use aluminum adhesive tape to seal cracks and seams. Good quality duct-tape or construction tape would also work but in aircraft I used aluminum because it met flame retardant regs., and that alone did more than installing insulation. you might be able to use tape to seal behind the windshield. Perhaps some spray-foam in a can might do well to seal some of the wind leaks, especially underneath, the stuff might not be flame-retardant but as long as you keep it away from electrical wires and systems and cables maybe not an issue. For insulation, I mostly used lightweight flame-retardant aircraft approved PVC closed-cell foam about 10m thick, and 3M spray contact cement to attach it directly to the airframe walls. Closed-cell foam does not absorb moisture, deadens exterior sound and vibration and insulates better than open-cell foam like you showed and I saw others installing behind panels. I also tried the reflective bubble wrap (Reflectix) but it did not seem much better than the foam for thermal insulation and did not deaden much sound. Padded floor mats might help. My aircraft upholstery guys used to glue 5mm insulating foam to wool blend carpet runners and removable mats and sew binding around the edges it was amazing how much engine heat and noise and vibration that stopped. A good upholstery shop or person could make a set of insulated wool-blend carpet inserts an Ami pretty fast and affordably.
@@MeandMonAmi One of the reasons I love the AMI, and your channel, It's bit like enjoying a couple of pioneer English aviators from 100 years ago trying to navigate their way across France.
What a funny episode, but also very useful at the same time; Mr. Boo seemed a bit lost with that vest lol I think the heater will be quite helpful in preventing the windows from fogging up, but that's something you'll only know for sure by trying it in the right conditions, thanks a lot for another great wednesday vid, Tim and Mr. Boo :)
I’m nearly caught up on all the episodes and just came across this one. Simply hilarious. I was wondering if the electric warming “blanket” were to go into the seat rather than Mr. Boo it might work more subtly? I used to sweat far too much as a child of the 1970s with an electric blanket! This was a fun episode! Love you two (and Twiggy) 😆🌸
speaking about the hotness in the ami , after my first summer , i must say that it was much better than i'v been told. I mean it's hot into the ami , when the car is standstill ( wich is a problem when you charge it outside in full sun , youcan't stay inside) but when you drive , it's perfectly ok with the windows opened , i didn't even use the fan i bought.... of course i had a "sunshade" for the roof ( dunno if it's the corect word in english) . that beeing said i can watch the video :)
You guys could have your mechanic install a panel with a series of ports in the car allowing you to conveniently plug in all kinds of useful accessories and peripherals that can’t be done because now you can only hardwire them in. You may want to look into it because Citroen could have added one for little additional cost.
The answer would to be to replace the windshield with one with a defogger built in or with robust fogging protection. I realise what you’re thinking, its another upgrade cost because the Ami is built basic to cut cost costs but that may be a long term solution.
@@MeandMonAmi Something like that where you turn the de icer on and it clears the fog on the windshield. Only so much you can do with de fogging spray.
@@MeandMonAmiThat’s it, had one on a Skoda years ago, was great on northern wintry mornings, they make the wires a lot thinner on the front though , I only noticed them when I’d get a new prescription for glasses. 🦮👨🦯😎
I keep a window vac in the Ami and find using that along with the top frame mounted fans is the best way to keep the condensation reforming. Also have updated my old cheap 500w fan heater to a new DeLonghi but with just a Bluetti EB3A can't run for long as it's also running fans and dashcam.
@@MeandMonAmi not like a Karcher a genuine Karcher wv75 which is now discontinued this has dual heads and I find the narrow head gives better accessibility in the Ami.
Like an American songwriter, Tom Lehrer, wrote in a song about the Pollution, many years ago: "Don't drink the water, don't breathe the air"! And when driving in an EV, You aren't supposed to use any of its power for the heating or defrosting it inside! I use a Diesel Heater in mine, when it is cold in Denmark, so I may sit inside a clean from ice, and - warm car, before I even start!!
Hey Skip from Holland again yr thinking wrong dont go electric I have a gas heater its small and works with a gas cartridge it wil heat 8 hours on 1 cartridge 2 euro s keep the window little open u wont believe how hot it will be Its the size of a car battery the name is Macgyver portable heater Greetings from holland
got the heater ... next the hot espresso ( Outin Nano portable espresso machine) ... lovin' mine ... perfeck for the Ami ... Cheaper on Outin site rather than Amazon ...
About the steam on the windows, there is a product for motorcycle helmet thatif exists for cars would be awesome. It is a sticker made of two layers with a thin layer of air between. It prevents the tempersture chock between two sides. If I recall correct, the name is pinlock
Fine demonstration by Mr Boo, but surely might as well get a heated seat as the Star Wars device heats only one side of the body? The key to optimum comfort is pre-heating / cooling, so that the vehicle is comfortable when you arrive to use it. This is a common feature of many EVs and can be controlled via an app. Alternatively, one if you is designated the warm-up guy and has to be up and out twenty minutes before departure ...Thanks!
You want a proper 12volt connection yet USB peaks at only 5volt. You could either get a transformer that can boost 5v to 12v, or add a additional 12v accessory battery you could probably stash some place around the framework below the cabin or in front of it if theres any reasonable space. you could even take a battery apart and wire the cells in different locations of the vehicle as another solution if space is limited. You could also see if your car has individual 12v batteries, and if it doesnt, then get a buck step down transformer that matches what the battery pack is, that can be brought down to 12v say from 48 vor 60v or 72v depending on how they wired the AMI. I grabbed a Jinma J2, but the J4 just hit the market and it looks more like a car the way they did the fenders.
This was well timed as I was asking myself what I was going to do for my sans permis van. The in built heater through the dashboard is useless. Influenced by one of your other videos I bought an AllPowers S200 battery pack (AllPowers were having a sale, don't know if they still are). It was 165 euros on Amazon. 115 chez AllPowers. So I came to the same conclusion by co-incidence, that it isn't a good idea to run an external heater straight off my vans 12v battery. One of the reasons I bought the battery pack. Have also bought one of those sun shades for a car windscreen. Which I'll reppurpose into a headliner for the cab. I'm considering taping bako foil to the ceiling, then having the headliner below that, held in by the "roll cage" using some velcro. Definately interested in the performance of the heater you feature in your video with the two pinned plug. Thanks for your useful advice.
@@MeandMonAmi Have had two embarrassing incidents where I've left my headlights on and flattened the naff 12v battery my van came with. Since then I've bought a new one. Even so I try to be careful.
I have one of those lidl heated stab vests. By the way, they are supposed to be worn under a cardigan or such like, to retain the heat. When the family is at work and there is only me in the house ( retired) all day. Instead of putting the full central getting on, heating up the whole house expensively and wastefully, I just put the stab vest on sat watching TV, fed from my ecoflow, which I charge at night on octopus go at 9 p per kwhr after 00.30 hrs ( for our electric car really, but use it for the washer and tumble drier and now also the ecoflow). When the family comes back in we then put the central heating on, when it is not wasteful to do so, for a few hours. The stab vest starts out at 100 watts when it is cold but it then goes off and on to maintain the temp, usually only rising to about 50 watts. I can heat myself all day in the house for about 4 p on octopus go night time rate, they are very good. I think in the Ami, a small usb power pack heated and padded ganzi from Amazon, again worn under a coat or something, would be better, because you would not be tied up like with an umbilical cord to the stab vest from the power station, you will be free to get in and out. I also have one of those and they are also very good but you need to have several usb power packs because they don't last very long.
Well Tim I was thinking Mr Boo looked like a character from Blake's 7! Another blast from our childhoods. I suppose it's a nice way to tether yourself to your Ami!
If the standard heater isn't any good, that's a _big_ *NO* for me - I live in Baltics, noticeably further up North. And cooling is another issue particularly for me - I'm handicapped - got MS, and in heat everything below neck becomes slower and weaker, especially legs, but even arms, belly and back muscles too. It's not as bad now, but last week we had +33..+34°C outside, and it was awful, I started to doubt, if I will be able to stick in the key into the ignition and turn it, but as soon as I did, everything changed for good - AC on my old car kicked in and begun cooling.
Feeling Hot Hot Hot. The mock Suicide vest should keep your kidneys warm. That would keep all grandma’s happy. As mine were always worried about cold kidneys 🥶
@@MeandMonAmi Yes Sir but you may need some professional or at least a person how already done it on a van. Videos can be found at the internet. Cork is hgh insulating and not flammable. I just put 3mm cork in may flat on the walls and the feeled temperature change is amazing. And put the heater on the floor heat goes up cold air goes down the physik. Love your videos!
Hi Guys a friend of mine Barrie Crampton from Preston on his youtube channel he bought the Wabasto heater and that works without having to be plugged in , it runs on diesel and is small like the delonghi heater you showed us so that is another option as for us folks in the UK as you know being a native Brit the weather is awful in winter , Im looking at buying a new Ami but guess what ? Citroen has told me for me to order a Mi-Ami-Pop version i have to wait over 6 months so yeah not good.
Mister Me and Mister Boo well yet another vlog with interesting gadgets 😊 the portable heater should improve the standard of heating in Elton! Mister Boo as always the style icon that he is wearing the vest 😊😊 i had vision s of him beind like a toast sandwich 😂😂😂😂 as always bloody great entertainment with great gags ❤😂 remember stay well and stay charged 💯👍
Basic Maths and Physics will inform most people that in order to provide 360Watts of power, a 12 Volt battery will require 30 Amps of current passing through the wiring circuit. Now I am advised that 30 Amps can be a lethal amount of energy if handled the wrong way. It can also melt cheap wiring and plugs. Are you sure that you want to go down that road???
❤❤ I really enjoy watching you two and your channel. The car is stripped down so you can go the short distance you can go. That’s why they did nothing extra. The battery is too weak.
I get spoiled 'cause I can just lie in bed, pull up my Tesla App, and tell the car to defrost itself and warm the interior. I can even schedule it to run automatically. The remote unlock for frozen door handles is even better. 8-)
@@MeandMonAmi It certainly is. My other half thinks it's wonderful you can stroll out through the freezing wind and get into a warm car. Makes a nice change.
Cos the great danger is you leave it on and then flat battery time (I’ve even done it with our power stations!) or do you mean hard wire the power station in?
Perhaps it is time the lads traded Elton in for a newer EV. There are now several on the market with longer range, higher top speeds, similar charging times and..........wait for it heaters and air conditioning. Check out the Microlino, Tazzi Micromax and XEV YoYo.
The Ami is not so good in terms of safety but adding extra foam that will burn nicely is not so good for the safety of the Ami, and then adding all the other things like the power station and all the heaters might not be so good in the event of a crash.
@@MeandMonAmi That's a good price, I agree. I find you can get a better deal in France, for example I've seen 2,000 or so euros down, 19.99 per month for 3 years. Also in France you don't need to pass the senseless CBT they hang on your neck in the hypercontrolling UK. So, someone who has zero interest in mopeds and only needs CBT to drive their Ami, will have to pass the CBT which involves at best a 50cc automatic moped! And this could be a person who has never ridden a bike in their lives 'cause they never needed/wanted to. So, in the UK, an Ami is kinda not worth it. But in France, and perhaps in Europe in general, it's a fab purchase. We keep ours in France and never bring it to the UK, though I could think of some lovely places in Suffolk and along the coast I would have loved to drive around in the Ami.
If you used 4 Candles to heat the inside up, it would be a lot cheaper and not touch your Battery. Then again it might take a few hours. I got the idea from The Two Ronnies.
In the 1970s, I had a used Hillman Imp Californian (cost me £100 to purchase lol) and the heater packed up. I didn't get it repaired, so drove around for 2 winters in the UK with no heater. It was rather chilly at times, and I remember having to scrape the ice from the inside of the windscreen (I did try not to breathe, but obviously had to every so often 😂😂) as I was driving along, plus had to stop every frequently to scrape the ice from the outside of the windscreen. I was only 20 then and can honestly say that having no heater didn't really bother me......though it definitely would now. I imagine that for some people having very little heat in the Ami will not bother them at all, and they will put up with and cope with the cold.
I remember as a kid getting in a Ford escort and it being freezing. I don’t remember it being quite as draughty as an Ami though..
Looks like Mr boo has been in a car accident with a neck brace on
😂
Well, the only thing that this gal from the Canadian prairies (the coldest place in Canada) can recommend is warm clothing, a plug in thermal heating blanket/throw, and these things called 'hot pocs' by Grabber that you put inside your gloves and boots. They have a chemical reaction when initiated and keep you toasty warm for hours. They even have 'bun warmers' for frosty seats and peel on body warmers. Apparently it's all the rage with the ice fishing and snowmobiling community! The bonus is that they don't draw one k watt of power and they aren't a fire hazard..... 😉
They sound good and don't need wires!
Still loving this show, thanks for doing it for us, it’s probably a lot of work and we appreciate it, thanks to you and mr Boo!
Thanks Brian
Your welcome.
I keep recommending you, and your channel, to all my friends too,
keep up the great work, I must say, your editing and camera work is second to none, really professional, technical and sophisticated shooting techniques and brilliant beautiful editing to top it off.
Thanks, it must take a long time but it’s definitely worth it, I can’t help thinking that you and Mr Boo would be perfect for a new series of “Wish you were here”, 😂. the quality of your work is good enough to compete with shows such as the one mentioned.
Also, sorry to mither you,, you are probably really busy but, do you think could you tell us what the French/English song is called that you play when driving about?, the one with “Let’s rob a bank”I know all the words now, I can almost sing it all the way through,
furthermore, I’m learning French from your show dag nammit 😂. I’ve been a truck driver for 20+years and those roads frighten me senseless, I used to deliver linen to hotels, so some of the places I’ve seen have been quite tight, but those roads are a different kettle of fish, your breaks would be on fire on some of those hills 😂. You 2 are crazy and, quite frankly, I applaud it, you never fail to make me laugh on your crazy adventures in your little Noddy car 😂.
Thanks for teaching me French and making it a pleasure to learn, both at the same time!😂.
@@BrianPseivaD it’s les figures by the devils sway. Yes I go through a lot of disks for my bike brakes round here. I think brake people do very well in these parts!
Hi, a pair of sheepskin seat covers (real not fake) will help. Warm in winter, cool in summer, fire retardant. Used a lot in aircraft interiors as an upgrade for crews.
And sexy looking. I’d never thought of that..
Hi lads from Spain. We have several of those things from Lidl, for use around the house since we don't have central heating here. We do tend to find that the thermostatic control goes wrong fairly quickly and they are a devil to repair. Stay charged and keep warm, winter is coming.
Ah we await disaster!
You may want to consider a heating blanket or heating pillow made by stoov. You can drape the blanket over your seat and they work great. You can charge them at home and take them along on your trips. 😊
That sounds a good idea!
When I had a motor cycle, much to my mums amusement I had a hot water bottle down inside my coat, it worked so well keeping me warm, it never got cold, perhaps these days one of those microwave ones might help you both! I laugh so much watching your videos, love you both & Twiggy. John in Monmouth uk
I was in stitches when you went on about the electric blanket! LOL
They were very dangerous things in the seventies
That was fun and interesting, thanks guys! Tim, when you brought up the issue drafts and insulation, I thought how similar the Ami is to a light aircraft, how you often freeze your arse off with 200mph sub-zero drafts the measures I used to implement when doing new interiors on old airplanes. First, with the interior removed down to bare metal, I would use aluminum adhesive tape to seal cracks and seams. Good quality duct-tape or construction tape would also work but in aircraft I used aluminum because it met flame retardant regs., and that alone did more than installing insulation. you might be able to use tape to seal behind the windshield.
Perhaps some spray-foam in a can might do well to seal some of the wind leaks, especially underneath, the stuff might not be flame-retardant but as long as you keep it away from electrical wires and systems and cables maybe not an issue.
For insulation, I mostly used lightweight flame-retardant aircraft approved PVC closed-cell foam about 10m thick, and 3M spray contact cement to attach it directly to the airframe walls. Closed-cell foam does not absorb moisture, deadens exterior sound and vibration and insulates better than open-cell foam like you showed and I saw others installing behind panels. I also tried the reflective bubble wrap (Reflectix) but it did not seem much better than the foam for thermal insulation and did not deaden much sound.
Padded floor mats might help. My aircraft upholstery guys used to glue 5mm insulating foam to wool blend carpet runners and removable mats and sew binding around the edges it was amazing how much engine heat and noise and vibration that stopped. A good upholstery shop or person could make a set of insulated wool-blend carpet inserts an Ami pretty fast and affordably.
How interesting. I can totally see the similarities to a light aircraft now you explain
@@MeandMonAmi One of the reasons I love the AMI, and your channel, It's bit like enjoying a couple of pioneer English aviators from 100 years ago trying to navigate their way across France.
What a funny episode, but also very useful at the same time; Mr. Boo seemed a bit lost with that vest lol
I think the heater will be quite helpful in preventing the windows from fogging up, but that's something you'll only know for sure by trying it in the right conditions, thanks a lot for another great wednesday vid, Tim and Mr. Boo :)
Thanks. Yes i think next week we will get chance to put it through its paces fogging wise
I’m nearly caught up on all the episodes and just came across this one. Simply hilarious. I was wondering if the electric warming “blanket” were to go into the seat rather than Mr. Boo it might work more subtly?
I used to sweat far too much as a child of the 1970s with an electric blanket! This was a fun episode! Love you two (and Twiggy) 😆🌸
speaking about the hotness in the ami , after my first summer , i must say that it was much better than i'v been told. I mean it's hot into the ami , when the car is standstill ( wich is a problem when you charge it outside in full sun , youcan't stay inside) but when you drive , it's perfectly ok with the windows opened , i didn't even use the fan i bought.... of course i had a "sunshade" for the roof ( dunno if it's the corect word in english) . that beeing said i can watch the video :)
Many many days we struggled to get it below 40 whilst on the road. It was a crazy hot summer
electric heathed clothing is a good solition; only a very small powerbank is needed
You guys could have your mechanic install a panel with a series of ports in the car allowing you to conveniently plug in all kinds of useful accessories and peripherals that can’t be done because now you can only hardwire them in. You may want to look into it because Citroen could have added one for little additional cost.
I have a four socket usb I put in myself that goes into portable powerbank. Stuck under their single one
The answer would to be to replace the windshield with one with a defogger built in or with robust fogging protection. I realise what you’re thinking, its another upgrade cost because the Ami is built basic to cut cost costs but that may be a long term solution.
Are they like the old rear window de icers with heated wires in?
@@MeandMonAmi Something like that where you turn the de icer on and it clears the fog on the windshield. Only so much you can do with de fogging spray.
@@MeandMonAmiThat’s it, had one on a Skoda years ago, was great on northern wintry mornings, they make the wires a lot thinner on the front though , I only noticed them when I’d get a new prescription for glasses. 🦮👨🦯😎
Perhaps put the skywalker suit on the seats and that delongy seems real nice.
It’s lovely the little delonghi!
I keep a window vac in the Ami and find using that along with the top frame mounted fans is the best way to keep the condensation reforming. Also have updated my old cheap 500w fan heater to a new DeLonghi but with just a Bluetti EB3A can't run for long as it's also running fans and dashcam.
Interesting. Like a Karcher?
@@MeandMonAmi not like a Karcher a genuine Karcher wv75 which is now discontinued this has dual heads and I find the narrow head gives better accessibility in the Ami.
Like an American songwriter, Tom Lehrer, wrote in a song about the Pollution, many years ago: "Don't drink the water, don't breathe the air"! And when driving in an EV, You aren't supposed to use any of its power for the heating or defrosting it inside!
I use a Diesel Heater in mine, when it is cold in Denmark, so I may sit inside a clean from ice, and - warm car, before I even start!!
not sure where we’d fit a diesel and our external powerbank
Those winters in the South of France must be brutal. 😃😆
It’s not called the ALPES Maritime for nowt!
Oh my, what a faffing around. Too hot in summer, fogged up when damp, freezing in winter. One has to be a real fan to drive this thing.
Hey Skip from Holland again yr thinking wrong dont go electric I have a gas heater its small and works with a gas cartridge it wil heat 8 hours on 1 cartridge 2 euro s keep the window little open u wont believe how hot it will be
Its the size of a car battery
the name is Macgyver portable heater
Greetings from holland
Oh dear sounds breezy… 🚙
...time to dig the long johns out - freezing 🥶 in UK x
That thumbnail image ! Mr Boo looks so regal and you look so dashing. Love the channel the Dr. Who reference had me on the floor!
Oh thank you!
I also recently bought the Lidl electric screwdriver :)
It’s very good!
got the heater ... next the hot espresso ( Outin Nano portable espresso machine) ... lovin' mine ... perfeck for the Ami ... Cheaper on Outin site rather than Amazon ...
You have the delonghi Bill?
no I don't have a heater - why I said I had now puzzles me as find an extra layer is all you need ...
About the steam on the windows, there is a product for motorcycle helmet thatif exists for cars would be awesome. It is a sticker made of two layers with a thin layer of air between. It prevents the tempersture chock between two sides. If I recall correct, the name is pinlock
Interesting I shall look it up!
Fine demonstration by Mr Boo, but surely might as well get a heated seat as the Star Wars device heats only one side of the body? The key to optimum comfort is pre-heating / cooling, so that the vehicle is comfortable when you arrive to use it. This is a common feature of many EVs and can be controlled via an app. Alternatively, one if you is designated the warm-up guy and has to be up and out twenty minutes before departure ...Thanks!
Indeed I think Mr Boo should do the warm up!
I find a chihuahua generates enough heat to keep me warm 😂
Yes but what about the driver!?;
@@MeandMonAmi A second chihuahua. You can never have too many 😂
You want a proper 12volt connection yet USB peaks at only 5volt.
You could either get a transformer that can boost 5v to 12v, or add a additional 12v accessory battery you could probably stash some place around the framework below the cabin or in front of it if theres any reasonable space. you could even take a battery apart and wire the cells in different locations of the vehicle as another solution if space is limited. You could also see if your car has individual 12v batteries, and if it doesnt, then get a buck step down transformer that matches what the battery pack is, that can be brought down to 12v say from 48 vor 60v or 72v depending on how they wired the AMI.
I grabbed a Jinma J2, but the J4 just hit the market and it looks more like a car the way they did the fenders.
Thanks. I think using our Powerbank is probably the best bet
This was well timed as I was asking myself what I was going to do for my sans permis van. The in built heater through the dashboard is useless. Influenced by one of your other videos I bought an AllPowers S200 battery pack (AllPowers were having a sale, don't know if they still are). It was 165 euros on Amazon. 115 chez AllPowers. So I came to the same conclusion by co-incidence, that it isn't a good idea to run an external heater straight off my vans 12v battery. One of the reasons I bought the battery pack.
Have also bought one of those sun shades for a car windscreen. Which I'll reppurpose into a headliner for the cab. I'm considering taping bako foil to the ceiling, then having the headliner below that, held in by the "roll cage" using some velcro.
Definately interested in the performance of the heater you feature in your video with the two pinned plug. Thanks for your useful advice.
Interesting. I just think the 12v is too risky cos I know I will leave something on..
@@MeandMonAmi Have had two embarrassing incidents where I've left my headlights on and flattened the naff 12v battery my van came with. Since then I've bought a new one. Even so I try to be careful.
Hey, be careful, my wife is a granny and she loves your vids so comments about her electric blanket connector hits home. BTW it’s true 😊😊😊
My early 2CV I had was pretty cold in winter especially running around town. Plenty of gaps for draughts
I bet
I have one of those lidl heated stab vests. By the way, they are supposed to be worn under a cardigan or such like, to retain the heat. When the family is at work and there is only me in the house ( retired) all day. Instead of putting the full central getting on, heating up the whole house expensively and wastefully, I just put the stab vest on sat watching TV, fed from my ecoflow, which I charge at night on octopus go at 9 p per kwhr after 00.30 hrs ( for our electric car really, but use it for the washer and tumble drier and now also the ecoflow). When the family comes back in we then put the central heating on, when it is not wasteful to do so, for a few hours. The stab vest starts out at 100 watts when it is cold but it then goes off and on to maintain the temp, usually only rising to about 50 watts. I can heat myself all day in the house for about 4 p on octopus go night time rate, they are very good. I think in the Ami, a small usb power pack heated and padded ganzi from Amazon, again worn under a coat or something, would be better, because you would not be tied up like with an umbilical cord to the stab vest from the power station, you will be free to get in and out. I also have one of those and they are also very good but you need to have several usb power packs because they don't last very long.
Great thinking Steve. I can totally see how that can work at home. As you say not really designed for driving or walking around.
Well Tim I was thinking Mr Boo looked like a character from Blake's 7! Another blast from our childhoods.
I suppose it's a nice way to tether yourself to your Ami!
Indeed not sire entirely wise!
Time to get your big coat out Tim, until next time stay warm 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Indeed!
If the standard heater isn't any good, that's a _big_ *NO* for me - I live in Baltics, noticeably further up North.
And cooling is another issue particularly for me - I'm handicapped - got MS, and in heat everything below neck becomes slower and weaker, especially legs, but even arms, belly and back muscles too. It's not as bad now, but last week we had +33..+34°C outside, and it was awful, I started to doubt, if I will be able to stick in the key into the ignition and turn it, but as soon as I did, everything changed for good - AC on my old car kicked in and begun cooling.
Love these episodes 🎉😂
Thanks
I’m feeling all warm and fuzzy already.
💙🤍❤️
Feeling Hot Hot Hot. The mock Suicide vest should keep your kidneys warm. That would keep all grandma’s happy. As mine were always worried about cold kidneys 🥶
That was a big problem too!
You may insulate your Ami car with spray cork.
That’s an interesting one. You spray it on!?
@@MeandMonAmi Yes Sir but you may need some professional or at least a person how already done it on a van. Videos can be found at the internet. Cork is hgh insulating and not flammable. I just put 3mm cork in may flat on the walls and the feeled temperature change is amazing. And put the heater on the floor heat goes up cold air goes down the physik. Love your videos!
Very interesting and it looks great!
Just bought the same DeLongi heater in pink n white for my Citroen CZero.
How funny do you like it?
@@MeandMonAmi yeah does the job. Putting it in 10 mins before leaving and it takes the chill off
Hi Guys a friend of mine Barrie Crampton from Preston on his youtube channel he bought the Wabasto heater and that works without having to be plugged in , it runs on diesel and is small like the delonghi heater you showed us so that is another option as for us folks in the UK as you know being a native Brit the weather is awful in winter , Im looking at buying a new Ami but guess what ? Citroen has told me for me to order a Mi-Ami-Pop version i have to wait over 6 months so yeah not good.
Maybe could just use a double adapter and Delongi can heat up / dry out inside of Ami while it's charging.
Mister Me and Mister Boo well yet another vlog with interesting gadgets 😊 the portable heater should improve the standard of heating in Elton! Mister Boo as always the style icon that he is wearing the vest 😊😊 i had vision s of him beind like a toast sandwich 😂😂😂😂 as always bloody great entertainment with great gags ❤😂 remember stay well and stay charged 💯👍
Yes didn't he look fetching in it!?
@@MeandMonAmi he certainly looked the part Tim !
The stab vest with its uncomfortable-looking collar looks like something from U.F.O. or Space 1999!
It does doesnt it?!
Factory fitted 12V plugs (in other cars) give max 120-150W power. Rarely 180W.
Enough for the black heater we showed I think
I cannot find those door caps and anti fog diffusers anywhere on Amazon or any other web site. Could you please share the links?
the draught excluders are on meandmonami.com
Basic Maths and Physics will inform most people that in order to provide 360Watts of power, a 12 Volt battery will require 30 Amps of current passing through the wiring circuit. Now I am advised that 30 Amps can be a lethal amount of energy if handled the wrong way. It can also melt cheap wiring and plugs.
Are you sure that you want to go down that road???
Yes, and in the usb socket, which is 5V, the current would be 72A... the wiring should be at least 10 mm2.
But you are not running 360watts at 12 volts the heater is 230volt a/c. 12volt car sockets are usually rated at 10amps maximum
Nope that’s why we use our portable power bank!
Pay attention,they're plugimg it into 230v ac
The ami though entertaining is the problem of bringing a concept to market.
I think to be fair most of the problems are caused by trying to keep the price down.
I'vre installed a air blow diesel heater works off exisitng 12v battery more than enough heat.
Just put a King sized duvet inside Elton and you'll be warm as toast all winter.
It might get stuck in the pedals!
@@MeandMonAmi You're right. Best go for a Queen sized duvet instead. 😂
Stay with the haircut - suits you!
Don’t think I have a choice Paul!
❤❤ I really enjoy watching you two and your channel. The car is stripped down so you can go the short distance you can go. That’s why they did nothing extra. The battery is too weak.
Thanks. Absolutely it’s low cost urban travel but we intend to keep going up mountains this winter so we need a bit of heating help!
I get spoiled 'cause I can just lie in bed, pull up my Tesla App, and tell the car to defrost itself and warm the interior. I can even schedule it to run automatically. The remote unlock for frozen door handles is even better. 8-)
That’s showing off!
@@MeandMonAmi It certainly is. My other half thinks it's wonderful you can stroll out through the freezing wind and get into a warm car. Makes a nice change.
Why not buy a 12v panel mount cigarette lighter socket from eBay, and hard wire that in to the dash panelling? Nick
Cos the great danger is you leave it on and then flat battery time (I’ve even done it with our power stations!) or do you mean hard wire the power station in?
How cold does it get on the French Riveria...🎻
Gold help the rest of us 🥶
It gets surprisingly cold just a few miles inland, particularly at night. Snow tires needed on many of the roads we’ve driven this Summer..
I imagine it feels wet cold
How about s hot water bottle?
What if it leaks?
I rely more on a nice warm winter coat and possibly... gloves on. That should be enough for short trips.
En voor langere ritten;de door Joop Julicher veelgeprezen elektrisch verwarmde kleding van amazone :-)
Hard wire a female cigarette lighter socket, instead of directly, that way you will be able to unplug.
That would work but I’d still worry about flattening the 12v battery accidentally
Perhaps it is time the lads traded Elton in for a newer EV. There are now several on the market with longer range, higher top speeds, similar charging times and..........wait for it heaters and air conditioning.
Check out the Microlino, Tazzi Micromax and XEV YoYo.
We’d certainly love to test drive them
I bought it this delonghi heater last week for my Ami but I did not try it 😊
Let us know how it goes!
I ran it at 30 minute intervals during my approximately 40km journey, it reached sufficient frequency inside, I use it with EcoFlow river 2.
The Ami is not so good in terms of safety but adding extra foam that will burn nicely is not so good for the safety of the Ami, and then adding all the other things like the power station and all the heaters might not be so good in the event of a crash.
I could fireproof the foam maybe?
@@MeandMonAmi can you buy foam that is fireproof?
Your new heater can't be that efficient if it has to transfer battery DC to AC.
The losses are all heat, it makes no difference.
7k is expensive
As cute as these Amis are, they truly *are* way too expensive for what they deliver.
Ours has been the best bargain we ever bought. £6k for three years of motoring withy zero breakdowns and a weekly charging cost of £4 max
@@MeandMonAmi That's a good price, I agree. I find you can get a better deal in France, for example I've seen 2,000 or so euros down, 19.99 per month for 3 years. Also in France you don't need to pass the senseless CBT they hang on your neck in the hypercontrolling UK. So, someone who has zero interest in mopeds and only needs CBT to drive their Ami, will have to pass the CBT which involves at best a 50cc automatic moped! And this could be a person who has never ridden a bike in their lives 'cause they never needed/wanted to. So, in the UK, an Ami is kinda not worth it. But in France, and perhaps in Europe in general, it's a fab purchase. We keep ours in France and never bring it to the UK, though I could think of some lovely places in Suffolk and along the coast I would have loved to drive around in the Ami.
If you used 4 Candles to heat the inside up, it would be a lot cheaper and not touch your Battery. Then again it might take a few hours. I got the idea from The Two Ronnies.
Love fork handles sketch!
@@MeandMonAmi ♥