I tend to disagree with this testing. Helis aren’t meant to fight other helis even though it happens often. so this is an unfair comparison. They are designed to fight armor. This should be tested against SH and MBT and ranking should be based on time, damage, and HP left at the end.
Okay before watching I expect you to make a full ATG test against every single unit You know atg is my favourite unit so please do it. I'm expecting all the best from you man ❤
Interesting video. The unanswered question however is - 'Why does Liberty win?' You should show the unit stat cards so we can compare these unbuffed units. Maybe it could help explain the result.
German Hali is for me the best, why? It opens the bonus firepower and bonus penetration for other units like SH or Medium, tank destroyer that is needed in army with SH and you have nice damage
Martyrs beat Lib when Lib attacked…to me Vanguard would be number 1. I’d like to see a best 2 out of 3 or 3 out of 5 just to see if the results are same every time.
Yes, I did miss speak and did not catch it in editing unfortunately but based on the results and data my thoughts still stand. Head to head Liberty outperformed Vanguard. Liberty and Vanguard are the top two so the winner goes to who performs better in their head to head match up. Also, all of these tests I perform are done multiple times but I only show one of each in the video so that way it doesn’t make the video 5 hours long lol. If I showed all of the test fights some people would complain “the videos too long” and if I only show one of each some people (like now) will say “I want to see more” so can’t satisfy everyone lol
I actually think think this video shows the developers true intent. They don’t want a clear cut winner they want it to be interpretive. It’s a strategy game, so having clear cut #1 takes any strategy out of the equation.
Could you make one of these videos but have the helis go against mbt's instead? Maybe in this type of test the martyrs will prevail since it has higher penetration to go up against a mbts armor.
Good question. A lot of it would depend on officers. For example, Golden Eagle does additional damage base on a unit’s armor thickness and you also have to factor in the over penetration factor
yes head to head but who is better against a SH-TANKS or the MB tank? I'd rather know that? so how about testing them against the 3 types of MB and 1 SH?😊
Interesting 🤔. My bet would be on vanguard. But I'm happy that i have liberty heli on 9,1 by now, it's performance is beyond my expectations. Hope to lvl it max before SF end
I'm not a fan of your testing methodology here. In real world you rarely have 1v1 head to head encounters. In AG vs AG, the Liberty speed advantage when you need to move from target to target, or get to the engagement or escape, the Liberty performs better than the Van by a mile. I've tested both.
Hallo Sobat, saya sangat suka video anda. Bisakah anda membantu saya tentang petugas Helikopter saya yang baru. Saya membangunkan Paman ivankov dan menjadikannya pemimpin untuk mendapatkan perisai pada Heli saya lalu untuk sementara waktu saya menggunakan Mesin perang sebagai pasangannya. Pertanyaan saya, petugas apa yang harus saya bangunkan berikutnya untuk berpasangan pada ivankov? Tujuan saya hanya 2, yaitu Golden Eagle & Valkyrie. Namun saya harus memilih diantara keduanya. Saya harap kamu bisa membantu saya🙏🏻
Have all 3 and Vanguard seems to perform better but the Liberty is much faster. I use Vanguard Heli to base and it seems better at that as well. Wonder how much difference there is using it to base compared to MB. I run Heli from all 3 camps often at 9.2.
In your situation the reason it is probably performing “better” is because you’ve got camp buffs and other tech variables in effect. This testing was a raw unit vs. unit test with everything being perfectly identical to see which is the best
@@DeathwisH-TV don’t u find it confusing that there isn’t ultimate a > b > c? We all know that dmg is not very rng related (despite of accuracy), unless officers and techs skills are involved thus you tried to make as much rng free enviroment as possible which is great in terms of testing. Anyway the 5% chance to deal 200% extra damage can be a game-changer turning upside down who shoots first.
There is No obvious reason why Lib Heli won that round as Lib suppose to be faster not stronger (is the most balanced but still the much more significant fp advantage of Van Heli should be much more impactful on the final results) and thing that could spoil the results was (apart from accuracy which I find rather negligible) the crit% chance with huge +200% damage boost
Currently, Liberty will be against it, for it has that extra smoke grenade feature, which cause the enemy not able to fire on it as it continues. If they ever add new camp features, it might change it. I would like to see Vanguard with Rockets launcher Pliskins and Mayters Moltov cocktails
@@nomad3630 Liberty has a higher advantage because of the smoke grenade as a infantry main myself. But of course their more suited for different roles which testing infantry against each other wouldn’t do it Justice as Russian is more for frontline, Liberty is universal, and German is anti tank type.
@@nomad3630 you also have to take into account that not only are their roles completely separate from each other their advanced combat is more complex then other troops. Advanced combat for MBT or Heli is all shared together with other factions like MBT gets the first strike bonus or Heli gains more damage from Pen stacks but unlike those Infantry have different perks depending on the faction from decreased smoke grenade prep time and duration, German critical strike and stacking firepower bonus the longer the battle, and Russian increase bunker resist and deceased damage from normal attacks. Testing infantry against infantry is more difficult in that regard and would have to be conducted against other troop types. Also the battle would last for way to longer from infantry vs infantry. Out of all the troops infantry fight against they most would think artillery which is true but against other infantry the battle lasts over 10 minutes or longer
I’m not sure about you but I don’t generally see many SH’s on the field in big field fights. The open field is currently dominated by helicopters which would make this test extremely relevant considering the current meta. Just my personal opinion. Of course respect yours too but respectfully disagree.
@@DeathwisH-TV yes but the purpose of the Heli is to target and kill units with thicker armour. Russian heli has most penetration, if the armour is thin, like helis usually do, much of the penetration damage will lose its significance, which will make the test inaccurate. I hope it makes sense .
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I tend to disagree with this testing. Helis aren’t meant to fight other helis even though it happens often. so this is an unfair comparison. They are designed to fight armor. This should be tested against SH and MBT and ranking should be based on time, damage, and HP left at the end.
But on field battles they do fight other hellicopters
It's hard to choose the targets in a face off
You are absolutely right.....idky why he's doing this heli vs.....its not really proving anything it would be like artillery vs another one lol
Thanks for showing the test results. I'd be curious he each heli performs against MBTs as well.
Helos destroy mbts
I do intend on doing this test at some point in the future 😀👍🏻
@@DeathwisH-TVwhen?
Okay before watching
I expect you to make a full ATG test against every single unit
You know atg is my favourite unit so please do it. I'm expecting all the best from you man ❤
I will see what I can do!
Thanks for these BEST unit vidz helps decision making
Interesting video. The unanswered question however is - 'Why does Liberty win?' You should show the unit stat cards so we can compare these unbuffed units. Maybe it could help explain the result.
Interesting suggestion. Will look into incorporating this in future testing videos 👍🏻
thats funny when u see the first clip the martyrs actually destroyed liberty.. and then he said that liberty won :3
Do you have a video about the SH tank and officers to use? Keep up the good work 🤙
German Hali is for me the best, why? It opens the bonus firepower and bonus penetration for other units like SH or Medium, tank destroyer that is needed in army with SH and you have nice damage
test them VS SH and MBT
Martyrs beat Lib when Lib attacked…to me Vanguard would be number 1. I’d like to see a best 2 out of 3 or 3 out of 5 just to see if the results are same every time.
Yes, I did miss speak and did not catch it in editing unfortunately but based on the results and data my thoughts still stand. Head to head Liberty outperformed Vanguard. Liberty and Vanguard are the top two so the winner goes to who performs better in their head to head match up. Also, all of these tests I perform are done multiple times but I only show one of each in the video so that way it doesn’t make the video 5 hours long lol. If I showed all of the test fights some people would complain “the videos too long” and if I only show one of each some people (like now) will say “I want to see more” so can’t satisfy everyone lol
@@DeathwisH-TV I want the 5 hour video 😝
I actually think think this video shows the developers true intent. They don’t want a clear cut winner they want it to be interpretive. It’s a strategy game, so having clear cut #1 takes any strategy out of the equation.
@@deathshere5491 This is an interesting thought tbh. Never thought about it from this perspective
What the best officer skill training would interest me alot.
Could you make one of these videos but have the helis go against mbt's instead? Maybe in this type of test the martyrs will prevail since it has higher penetration to go up against a mbts armor.
Just recently played this game and notice that some veterans kept saying wait for new units. When are these helicopters appear? When do MBs appear?
Do you think with the higher penetration on the Martyr it would be more effective against MBT or SH?
Good question. A lot of it would depend on officers. For example, Golden Eagle does additional damage base on a unit’s armor thickness and you also have to factor in the over penetration factor
No. Only at lower star levels. At 9.2 stars the Martyrs' overpens everything
yes head to head but who is better against a SH-TANKS or the MB tank? I'd rather know that? so how about testing them against the 3 types of MB and 1 SH?😊
You can't draw these conclusions on a single run of each scenario
Interesting 🤔. My bet would be on vanguard. But I'm happy that i have liberty heli on 9,1 by now, it's performance is beyond my expectations. Hope to lvl it max before SF end
They both performed great tbh. I feel like they can both be considered 1-A and 1-B because both helicopters do really well
please make test which helicopter is the best tank killer!
I'm not a fan of your testing methodology here. In real world you rarely have 1v1 head to head encounters. In AG vs AG, the Liberty speed advantage when you need to move from target to target, or get to the engagement or escape, the Liberty performs better than the Van by a mile. I've tested both.
It makes me so mad that when everyone was going helicopters, I went light to counter, and it's fake
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Lucky for me i got liberty and vanguard soon able to get both on 9.2 soon :D
Congratulations! 🥳
Hallo Sobat, saya sangat suka video anda. Bisakah anda membantu saya tentang petugas Helikopter saya yang baru. Saya membangunkan Paman ivankov dan menjadikannya pemimpin untuk mendapatkan perisai pada Heli saya lalu untuk sementara waktu saya menggunakan Mesin perang sebagai pasangannya. Pertanyaan saya, petugas apa yang harus saya bangunkan berikutnya untuk berpasangan pada ivankov? Tujuan saya hanya 2, yaitu Golden Eagle & Valkyrie. Namun saya harus memilih diantara keduanya. Saya harap kamu bisa membantu saya🙏🏻
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Can you do infantry pls ?
Working on it 😀👍🏻
Have all 3 and Vanguard seems to perform better but the Liberty is much faster. I use Vanguard Heli to base and it seems better at that as well. Wonder how much difference there is using it to base compared to MB. I run Heli from all 3 camps often at 9.2.
In your situation the reason it is probably performing “better” is because you’ve got camp buffs and other tech variables in effect. This testing was a raw unit vs. unit test with everything being perfectly identical to see which is the best
@@DeathwisH-TV I can see that. Pretty similar tech. Wonder how they perform taking hit from base and how that compares with MB.
@@RevolvingBlades69 I will add this idea to my list and will consider it for a future potential video 👍🏻
@@DeathwisH-TV Thank you
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What do you mean?
@@DeathwisH-TV don’t u find it confusing that there isn’t ultimate a > b > c? We all know that dmg is not very rng related (despite of accuracy), unless officers and techs skills are involved thus you tried to make as much rng free enviroment as possible which is great in terms of testing. Anyway the 5% chance to deal 200% extra damage can be a game-changer turning upside down who shoots first.
There is No obvious reason why Lib Heli won that round as Lib suppose to be faster not stronger (is the most balanced but still the much more significant fp advantage of Van Heli should be much more impactful on the final results) and thing that could spoil the results was (apart from accuracy which I find rather negligible) the crit% chance with huge +200% damage boost
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Is this game multi-player?
Yes, in just my alliance alone we have Americans, Spanish, Japanese, Australian, British, Turkish, Egyptians, Arab, Russian, and many more.
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Infantry would be a good video too 😅
In the works 😀👍🏻
Currently, Liberty will be against it, for it has that extra smoke grenade feature, which cause the enemy not able to fire on it as it continues. If they ever add new camp features, it might change it. I would like to see Vanguard with Rockets launcher Pliskins and Mayters Moltov cocktails
@@nomad3630 Liberty has a higher advantage because of the smoke grenade as a infantry main myself. But of course their more suited for different roles which testing infantry against each other wouldn’t do it Justice as Russian is more for frontline, Liberty is universal, and German is anti tank type.
@@nomad3630 you also have to take into account that not only are their roles completely separate from each other their advanced combat is more complex then other troops. Advanced combat for MBT or Heli is all shared together with other factions like MBT gets the first strike bonus or Heli gains more damage from Pen stacks but unlike those Infantry have different perks depending on the faction from decreased smoke grenade prep time and duration, German critical strike and stacking firepower bonus the longer the battle, and Russian increase bunker resist and deceased damage from normal attacks. Testing infantry against infantry is more difficult in that regard and would have to be conducted against other troop types. Also the battle would last for way to longer from infantry vs infantry. Out of all the troops infantry fight against they most would think artillery which is true but against other infantry the battle lasts over 10 minutes or longer
This is a wrong test, you're supposed to test these against an SH, not against themselves
I’m not sure about you but I don’t generally see many SH’s on the field in big field fights. The open field is currently dominated by helicopters which would make this test extremely relevant considering the current meta. Just my personal opinion. Of course respect yours too but respectfully disagree.
@@DeathwisH-TV yes but the purpose of the Heli is to target and kill units with thicker armour. Russian heli has most penetration, if the armour is thin, like helis usually do, much of the penetration damage will lose its significance, which will make the test inaccurate. I hope it makes sense .
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Wrong testing. Completely wrong. Test these helis vs sh and mbt.