Why I bought a used Model S Tesla instead of new Model 3 (2016 P90D)
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- Опубліковано 19 чер 2024
- This video explains why I choose to buy a 2016 Tesla Model S P90D w/Ludacris mode instead of a new model 3. I go over my circumstances and why it was a good choice for me, I also give the pros and cons.
Video Timeline:
Intro 0:00 - 0:33
Price Range 0:33 - 1:05
Cons 1:05 - 2:58
Pro’s 2:58 - 9:15
Outro 9:15 - 10:00
Well thought out, great job! I also bought a 2016 P90DL with 31,000 miles last month thru Tesla and went through the same process and the same questions. I don’t regret buying the used model S at all as I got the exact car I wanted at half the price and have absolutely NO buyers remorse. Free supercharging and 4/50 warranty can’t be beat. After watching Tesla for years and not quite getting it, I’m now a total fanboy of the whole experience.
Congratulations on your purchase! I hope the stay at home orders are released soon so I have reasons to drive my car more, I miss using it as often as I was. I am still very pleased with my purchase.
all s comes with free supercharge?
I guess it is kinda randomly asking but do anybody know of a good place to watch new series online ?
Love this vid mainly because the amount of thought you put into the purchase. Great work!
Thanks
Same here, we have a model 3 & now bought a 2016 Model S. No comparison at all. The Model S has that stunning look to it & a much better ride too. Very well said!
It’s a much more compelling option to buy the used model s now since used prices came down sooo much
How reliable has the model s been?
Smart of you to explore the option of getting out if you had any buyer's remorse. So helpful to hear your thought process. Now to save my pennies!
I’m literally faced with the same decision right now and your analysis helped out a lot.
Awesome, hope you enjoy whatever you went with!
Very nice analysis! Thanks for sharing your experience.
You're welcome!
Great video! I’m in this exact same boat and this vid made me confirm I want to go with a used p90d!
Thanks Oscar, I am still very happy with my decision.
Same! 🧐
Same strong feelings here. Love it! I recently purchased a 2017 Model S 100D. It is sooo smooth and quick! I'm a bit over 6'4 and it is perfect! Very comfortable. After all the installation quotes, we are finally getting a new outlet installed in the Garage today, here in Ga. Great video Sir!
Thanks for your video!
I just got my first Tesla a Model 3 Performance with FSD and HW3. Tesla just pushed an OTA software update that gives voice recognition for commands and voice to text for the keyboard. It also recognizes painted turn arrows, RR Crossings, School Crossings ect. It see’s stoplights and stop signs. FSD is going to be ready before bureaucrats allow it in my opinion.
I’m so happy with the car, I bought it for the tech and performance.
I’m going to need another car at some point and a used Model S is what I’m thinking for many of the same reasons you mentioned.
Thanks for the info. Very informative
Thanks for the information. Very helpful.
No problem, glad to help!
Great vid! Confirms my personal reasons for choosing a used model S as well. 🙌🏼
That's awesome, hope you are enjoying it!
I just watched the electric wagon video and decided to check out the rest of the channel, im not considering an electric car but im always looking to learn something.
This is exactly why I am going with a used model S vs the 3 .. I can get all the features I want, get myself into the EV market and experience it and feel that much more comfortable in it with having friends who are over 5 ft 8 inches tall so everyone sits pretty comfy. great stuff.. cheers.
Hope you are enjoying it!
Great review. I bought my first Tesla, it was also used 2016 model S but 90D two months ago from a dealer in Maryland and I drove it down to my home in Virginia. I paid around $54K for it and it got around 48K miles. I love the car. It also got free supercharging. The only thing is the range anxiety as I noticed the car loses range quickly, the good thing it still has 29 months left for the drive train warranty. The 4 year warranty already expired. I believe your car as of today will still worth a little more than what you paid for it back in 2019.. amazing.
Thanks, and yea, pretty crazy that it's still worth a little more!
I enjoyed watching your video. I also was shopping for a Tesla earlier this year and was also debating between a used Model S or new Model 3. My budget was lower than yours, under $45K.
I also like the looks of the S much better than the 3. I’m a big guy, and the S is a much roomier car. Road trips on the S are definitely more pleasant, as it is much quieter than the M3. Also, price, for mid $40K I found a used 2015 Model S85D with only 12,004 miles, in near mint condition! It has the Tech Package with AP1, Premium Sound, SubZero Package, NextGen Seats, panoramic sunroof, and free supercharging. Like you, I also like the 2 displays vs. the 15 inch single display on the M3. I also bought it directly from Tesla and got the 4 year/50K miles warranty, for me that’s 62,004 miles! I was also surprised the car still charges to 268-270 miles at 100% SOC.
Mine was in San Diego. We flew from Dallas and drove the car back. It was crazy, I had never driven a Tesla! It was amazing. I LOVE IT.
Ralph Quinones I was thinking of doing the same thing. Fly out to NY and drive car back to where I live ...
@@MrTikie9405 We had a great time driving the car back to Dallas. Good luck with your search.
How is it holding up now?
MEN'S BASKETBALL LEAGUE I now have 26K miles on it. Had one FOB die late last year and Tesla came to my house and gave me a new FOB (after programming/pairing it to a car). Covered under warranty. Otherwise the car is awesome. I still get about 268-270 miles range (depends how you drive).
Thanks for the video. It has really helped me make a decsion
Glad I could help!
Hi I have another question. So does your car have all that cool infotainment stuff that a model 3 would have? Like Netflix or a web browser?
I have a couple of things to add. 1. AP1 has Lane changing on the turn signal.. if you don't get FSD on a Model 3, you don't get that.. you just get lane keeping and enhanced cruise control. 2. Sunroof, I freaking love my sunroof.
Thanks for the addition!
totally agree on the sunroof. Love it 😀
Really good video. Thank you! New sub!
You're welcome, and thanks for watching!
Well said!! Great vid. Thanks.
Sure thing.
im so with you on how much better s is than 3, i am hopefully getting one soon, cant stop watching videos like yours.
Compared to older S, The 3 has newer batteri tech, not overheating as fast as S. More efficient, longer range, faster charging, much faster infotainment (MCU1 vs MCU2), UA-cam, Netflix, Twitch etc, more games, newer AP (2,5 or FSD) much more sporty drive, unlike the boaty S. So no, the S is not the better of the two, it depends on who you ask and what they need.
Everything you said is right, how things look is an opinion, but in my opinion the body style of the S looks better than the 3, but everything you said is a fact and true.
Happy to help.
@@FiveInline84 i dont care bout none of that lmao I love my s
@@user-lz5dd1to5i Each to their own :) Have tried P85, P85D, P90D and 85D, and i would never trade in my Model 3 Performance :) But the S is a great car too.
I'm not in the market for a Tesla, but this was a very informative video!
If you are going to do film with picture-in-picture, maybe look at the the rule of thirds?
Loved the clip of your mate trying to look cool whilst being very impressed with the acceleration LOL.
I had never heard of rule of thirds before, but a google'd it and it makes sense. Thanks for the tip and comment!
Great video very detailed I love it
Thanks.
Excellent video and covered all my questions especially because I also live in Colorado, agree with all your points in style and performance of why S is superior
Thank you!
Thanks for the vid, in the same situation right now.
Hope you enjoy it, if you go for it.
You’re absolutely correct. I bought my used ‘16 XP90D in ‘17 and love it for all the same reasons. But what do you think about the new cars because I see this was made back in August 2019?
I made the same call and don’t regret it in any way. I agree the S is just a way more visually appealing vehicle but the interior and performance seal the deal.
The look, the front - exactly my thoughts! Can't stand it in 3.
I agree. The squashed frog look of the 3 is something I can’t get past. It may be quicker and a bit more fun to drive than the S, but the front of the 3 is too odd.
@@jonathanl2748 how is it more fun to drive ??? Because it does better around corners ???
Hi very good video, I couldn’t agree more, but then I must say I did the same bought a second hand model full option S90D from December 2016 , Dutchmen living in Spain 😉
Hope you're enjoying it!
Seriously?! I was looking for a video just like this. Not all done up. Straight up good info. I am in the same boat too. But gonna get a P85D instead. Thanks man🙌🙌🙌
No problem thanks for watching.
Good luck. They are incredibly great cars.
I just made the same purchase / decision. I got the p85d so no Ludacris for the faster 0-60 like you, but 3.1 or whatever is pretty decent still. The M3 also has those side cameras and the better computer for sentry and dashcam mode. Like you said, trade offs to both, I did not end up with the high end audio sadly, but I will add my own sub later on. Regardless, two years later, all of your points still stand. I drive around so much now just having pointless fun, I get horrible range and the performance models already get 20% less battery, but idc. I have fun and charge it free every few days :D
Can't go wrong with that choice, glad you are enjoying it.
I am of exactly the same school I’d thought as you, but I am concerned that Tesla is no longer refurbishing a used Tesla. I hope I’m wrong about that, but have read that Tesla stopped doing paint touch ups and other improvements before putting a used Tesla on their website for sale. Therefore, you really don’t know what you’re getting. Please let me know your thoughts on this. Thank you for the great video!
bought a used model s I love it, zero buyers remorse 💚👍👍😎
Awesome choice!
Bought a used 2014 Model S P85D with ~75K mi for $39K in May 2020 directly from Tesla used car program. The car has a clean history and just 1 previous owner. After some debate and feedback, I went with the used Model S instead of a new Model 3 or Model Y. I always wanted a Model S and this one is at the right price, I can't afford this Model S when it was new back in 2014. I priced it out with all the options and it was ~$120K when new, This car has almost all the options checked, with the exception of 19" wheels thankfully Yes, it's used but it's in great shape and the battery still holds ~95% charge (calculated by charging to full and divide by the claimed 253mi range when new). While it only has AP1 autopilot that works well enough for long trips on highway driving. I am envious of the long-range Model 3 but for the same price, I would've only been able to get the SR+ which is about the same range as the P85D anyway. Really enjoying the car, already put 10,000 mi on it in just the past 4.5month. Really liking the air suspension (can't get that in 3 or Y yet), glass sunroof that opens, Insane+ mode acceleration, ultra high fidelity sound system and the hatchback. As winter comes round I will probably like the subzero package as well. Overall, I am glad I went with this used Model S.
I feel the same way, congrats on your new sweet ride!
I’m currently considering purchasing a 2017 Model S 75. It only has 8k miles, it’s the color I want and the interior color I want. Asking is $47. Is that a proper deal? It’s from the Tesla/used website.
Great video, I am in the same boat, weighing the same options...but unless something has changed, I thought buying used from Tesla only added one year to the factory warranty? The factory warranty is transferable to next owner, if it is still active, but the clock started when the car was new.
Thats good to know, thanks!
When was this video first up loaded?
How did you know what the value of the Model S was new? Was it from a window sticker or is there somewhere on the internet to figure that out based on VIN?
Tony Price I got the original Mulroney sticker for my car.
Nice video... how’s it holding up a year later? Any issues come up with used car so far?
I also opted for a used S over a new M3, also from Tesla. When I picked up the car it had an intermittent charging problem where it would not charge on both home charger and supercharger 10% of the time. It got worse over the first few weeks of ownership; it took two weeks to fix (new BMS) but they gave me a loaner in the meantime. I was so glad I had bought it from Tesla and had the warranty. Since then it has been great.
Walt, I just watched your video and had to add a comment to this thread. Your thoughts are dead on with my thoughts. My wife and I purchased a new 2019 Model 3 Standard Range Plus September 2019. We sold it a couple weeks ago and will be taking delivery of a 2016 75D used via Tesla tomorrow. Since we had the 3, I drove it maybe 2/3 times. I just prefer a larger more roomier car, as well as all of other benefits that come with a used S, such as free super-charging for life, via Tesla. The 4 year 50,000 warranty sold me as well. Initially, I purchased a 2016 manufactured 9/16. Little did I know that all S's made after 10/16 have the ability for FSD. I cancelled my initial order and found one made in 11/16. In the future, should we decide to go the FSD route, we'd have the ability to do that. I'm also thinking that it might increase resale value as well, should we decide to trade up to something else in the future from Tesla.
Hello
What is FSD
@@moescolla Full Self Driving capability.
Link World thx
Definitely a lot of perks, hope you are enjoying it!
What model/size is that monitor next to you? It looks cool
Samsung 49 inch CHG90 Gaming Monitor 144hz 1ms (LC49HG90DMNXZA) - Super Ultrawide, QLED, HDR, 1ms gaming monitor with Freesync...
I made a video on it here is a link to that :
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Here is an amazon link to the actual monitor:
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You made a great buy.
Thanks
Just ordered a used model 60 uncorked to a 75D with FDS and really low miles, hence the price. I'm still a little confused, AP 2.0 vs FSD. I have a narrow garage, summons is important. Just found out the Free Supercharging is no more. Can you talk about the charging and whats needed as well as AP vs FSD.
I thought 2016 and below got free charging forever.
I saw Tesla changed something with grandfathering in the supercharging, not sure it it still in effect if you buy from a previous owner instead of thru Tesla, as far as I know the FSD means that when the full self driving becomes available it will be able to do it where the others won't but right now the Full self driving is not available . The chip is faster as well.
Peace Ninja My understanding is only if you buy from a private seller. Used from Tesla, no SC and no free premium connectivity.
I agree! The Model S looks bossy. How is your model S holding up in 2020? Any regrets? I pre-ordered the dual motor Cybertruck never owning a pickup truck in my life. Debating whether to get a used model S or wait for the Cyber truck🤔
I live in WI where it snow's in the winter.
Get a used S now. We got ours in April 2019 and LOVE it. We put a deposit on a Cybertruck and still debating if to trade the S or just keep both!
No regrets, I'm loving it!
Is there an update video?
Great video. A year later and still the same dilemma. The S obviously looks better, but the 3 is packed with the latest tech. The S is faster but the 3 still feels sporty. The 3 has FSD, you can upgrade both MCU and HW in the S but the cost mounts (as long as you buy post 11/16).
I am leaning toward the 3 as the S is more complex and I think will have greater running costs in the long run. It's a tough dilemma!
Phillip.
After you buy new model 3 it turns in to used… and between used models model S is no brainer even if it is older it’s still model S
@@mariajones8304 You get government grants when it's new in EU. I can get a new Model 3 for €37k and a €7k rebate making it €30k. It will be several years before it depreciates to the point I paid for it. A refresh Model S that is FSD capable (so Nov 2016 onwards) is coming in around €40k at the moment.
Is a Model S at €40k better than a Model 3 at €30k on the face of it? Yes. On looks and comfort alone. But when you factor in increased maintenance costs and older tech the line becomes more blurred. Like I get Sentry Mode on the Model 3 which I wouldn't on the S. It's still a tough choice!!
Phillip.
Hope you pulled the trigger and are enjoying either one!
@@waltsreviews90 Yes took delivery of my Model 3 SR+ in June. No regrets. Best car I ever had. I think in 10 years people are going to look back on this car as the one that changed the world.
Phillip.
I noticed you said the warranty covers everything..Does it cover the cosmetic stuff such as chips and scratches when you initially by the used Tesla?
No. as-is
No it does not, and I guess I could have been more clear, it covers if something on the car stops working for no fault of the owner.
Just like a new car warranty. You ruin a wheel on a pothole, your penny to fix. My FOB died, just stopped working, even with a new battery. Tesla came to my house and replaced it under warranty.
You can actually get the 2016 model upgraded to "FSD capable".
What is fsd?
@@stevefairley2535"full self driving".
Good to know, thanks!
I agree with you. The model S just seems to call out to me more.
Get one!
I just bought 2016 p90d as well. How’s your range?
I got a used 2015 S85D with 12,004 miles in April. I think Tesla must have done some work on my battery as it still gets 268-270 miles range at 100% SoC!
Here we are, September 2020 and still getting about 268 miles range. If you drive nice, 65mph and the winds help, car says I could drive more than 270 miles.
@@rafacq You're doing good my 90D doesn't even get that. Did they restrict your charging speed?
@@usa-ev Yes the did slow down my charging speed. A 15 minute charge now takes 25 minutes. 30 minutes is now 45. My range is down about 1.2%, now getting about 266 miles. Haven’t supercharged in over a year.
How did you get a 4 year warranty on a used Tesla.? I've looked at used model s on the site and not one had a 4 year warranty and there was no mention of free supercharging for life
Maybe they changed it? You can call and ask them.
What type of computer monitor is that?
I made a video on it samsung 49 inch ultrawide
Yup, yup, and yup! I agree, a used Model S is a pretty damn good bet. I really can't get past the nose on the M3 and ongoing paint and panel alignment issues at delivery just turned me off buying a new 3.
No way would I get a Model S with ludicrous mode as I believe just a standard S with a few desirable options would suit me much better as my speed days are over! I'm 77!
I'm liking the prices I see on Tesla's website.
@Rick9482 I’m 67 and bought my 2015 S85D with 12,004 miles in April 2019! Love it. Will never buy an ICE car again.
@@rafacq Good luck with your choice Ralph but I've decided Tesla is not for me. I was even $100 in on a deal for a 2017 S but got cold feet and didn't follow through.
I've decided on getting a used Mercedes E Class or a new C Class. The E is first choice!
Rick9482 thanks Rick. I’ve had the car for 18 months now and amazingly $0.00 maintenance. I did buy some ONR, and some microfiber towels to clean the car so total, about $30 on cleaning supplies. I did pay for window tinting. I love there is no oil changes, no spark plugs, no timing chain, no transmission, no transmission fluids, no fuel pump, I mean this is as close to maintenance free as you can get! Enjoy your Mercedes, they are nice cars (I rented one for a week in California about 4 years ago). But honestly, I will never buy an ICE car again.
@@rafacq @Ralph Quinones @Ralph Quinones No water, no water pump, no radiator, no muffler, no exhaust system, no valvetrain or head gasket or headers(all items I've had repaired).
Yup, the list is endless and is the #1 reason to go EV.
Thx Ralph.......I think I'll make that list into a card. It should never be overlooked or forgotten.
@Rick9482 A list, great idea. #1 on the EV list... NO EMISSIONS!
Exact boat. Sold me on the free supper charging. Had no idea this came with the car.
Hope you're enjoying it!
Same boat here too - one BIG thing you missed is that the Federal tax credit ($7500) for buying a new EV is now gone...I was for sure going to buy a new model 3 until I found that out.
Yes it is now gone, when I made the video (2019) they still had a credit, but now they don't.
4:36 Tesla changed its used CPO car policy again...It no longer offers 4 year / 50 K (for cars under 50K miles). Now warranty is just 1 year/ 10 K miles from the time you purchase the CPO vehicle, which is a BIG bummer...When Tesla breaks out of warranty, expect to dish out major bucks...I think the door handle actuators on Model S costs couple of hundred dollars...even now. And there are 4 of them.
Thanks for the heads up!
I'm thinking of making an offer for a p90d 2016 from s private party. 56k Too much to pay ?
That's a tough one to advise on from where I am sitting because there are so many factors to consider.
That’s my thought process also
😊
Constant supercharging will dilute the ability of your battery over time. If, as you said, you don't drive a lot. Why would you need to supercharge?
I only supercharge if I go on a trip, usually I do not tho. It's just nice to know if I do I don't have to pay for it.
If I wanted to buy a used Tesla , would they drop the price if I tell them I don’t want any autopilot feature??
No, but sometimes you can find specific cars without the feature and they are cheaper.
Do you recommend Tesla model S 100D instead of P90D?
P90D would destroy a regular S100D in a race, if you're into speed, get the "P" version of any tesla
And if you're not into speed get all the range you can afford. (And you'll still have great performance.)
@@vincephan344 is the model s p90d faster than a model 3 performance ??? Cause from the videos I’ve seen the model 3 beats it at the drag strip I’m so confused. Doesn’t the p90d go 0-60 in 2.6 instead of the model 3s 3.1??? Is it even a big noticeable difference ???
Whats LTE service for life?
I believe it’s data .. internet
I wonder if and when governments or tesla start shutting cars off for example unpaid fines, suspended license or not paying ur car loan, I could see it happening.
So the model s won’t be able to full self drive
Good to know, thanks.
One con you missed was the charging speed. Model S is not capable of v3 super charging.
You are right, when I made this video it was such a new thing I didn't even know it existed. Thanks for the viewers know.
clearly this guy is rich, which im glad he is. If you have this much money get what you want
Model S all the way. Its more practical and more car for the money. Not everyone needs all that range.
9:04 and ayo guess what another pro is u saved tesla employees from a hassle of a new car and didn't leave a carbon blueprint but pls note that gas cars are much worse as they have a bigger carbon blueprint
I just bought dame cat fewer miles for 27K
Your 90d doesn't do 2.6 seconds and you don't get an extended 4 year warranty.
P90d definitely does 2.6 or less. As for the warranty I’m not sure
P90DL*
I’m visually impaired so I need a self driving car,
I need a tesla, because of the FSD Im not tryna drop 60k
Anyone could please help me out I would appreciate that fr
YOU WERE DEAD WRONG ABOUT FSD released 2 days ago. 3-5 years your prediction-
Actual was 6 months
Poor advice all the way around.
Not really... The OTA update was more like a preview. It only works some times, not all the times, and there are still many bugs overall. For it to be FSD, it would take some years for it to be perfect
Yeah Feature complete full self-driving is not near completion. Lot of good advice in this video, check your facts before leaving a comment on his videos.
Poor Paul and his beige Toyota Corolla. You're the type of guy who says "I trust myself over a series of sensors, cameras and computers to drive safer"
lmao this comment is hilarious 11 months later