Dang straight. But if you thing that RA IV trans am is valuable then check out the car at 15:33! A 67 GTX hemi ragtop ( 1 of 17 made in 67! )....are you kidding me????? Also, how bout the 73 SD 455 Trans Am too!
@@barbar-w4d MOST of those Turbo Buicks were 100% factory, down to the shitty p215-65-15 skinny tires. These cars were brand new, some not even broken in. The aftermarket didn't really have anything for them yet. Some guys knew how to tune and more importantly, LAUNCH them. those were the faster cars in the video.
@@231macOne of those grand nationals wasn't stock because they never came with the blow off valve you can hear after he lets out of the throttle when he's done doing his burn out . Those grand nationals were quick but a lot of them blew up because of the turbo's pressure caused the pistons to collapse plus they had oiling issues for the turbo that would cause the turbo's bearings to fail because of lack of cool oil and not enough oil pressure so the bearings would fail and if the oil wasn't changed regularly the dirty oil that the viscosity would decrease from the heat would kill those turbo bearings . I worked at a shop that we had a couple come in to be fixed because of these issues I'm saying . You can definitely see who can cut a light good and drive verses someone that's sleeping at the light and can't power shift a 4 speed with some of these cars . Those 340 Dusters and Darts could easily if a few simple things done to the tune of the engine and be in the 12s all-day long . Some of the national record setting 340 cars are running 10s in the 1/4 mile with not that much done to them and the 340 was always underated for it's HP numbers and were called the big block dragon slayer known for spanking a lot of big block cars of the time in the 1/4 mile. Seems like some of the newer mustangs I'm seeing here were running faster than they would stock from the factory because I've driven some of them and they were slugs even with the injected 5.0 with the 5 SPD manual compared to some of the muscle cars I have worked on and test driven years ago back when i worked at some speed shops and im talking hundreds of old cars muscle cars and drag cars at a shop in MN that was sponsored by the MSRA . We had built a car for a guy that was a 69 Pontiac GTO a full tube chassis big tire car with a 455 HO block but with all the goodies in the engine that was making 1,500 HP to the rear wheels on our chassis dyno and at 1 time it was a national record setting drag car running low 8s at 165+ mph in the 1/4 mile and at that time it's was the quickest and fastest all Pontiac powered drag car in the USA . We used to test and tune the car at Brainered international raceway years ago and I still have a picture of the car hanging in my garage to this day now that I'm retired but still build some muscle cars and rat rods with a buddy of mine in his shop just to stay busy .
@@peteloomis8456 Oh man, where to start, LOL. There were NO blow-off valves available, as well as other "go fast" parts for the Turbo Regals back when the 86-87 intercooled cars first came out. Ask me how I know. Also, your comment "Those grand nationals were quick but a lot of them blew up because of the turbo's pressure caused the pistons to collapse plus they had oiling issues for the turbo that would cause the turbo's bearings to fail because of lack of cool oil and not enough oil pressure so the bearings would fail and if the oil wasn't changed regularly the dirty oil that the viscosity would decrease from the heat would kill those turbo bearings " is outright laughable!! We use to laugh at guys like you when they would walk up to us and tell us how crappy our cars were. Your comment about the "pistons collapseing" tells ANYONE who actually knows and OWNED these cars that you're an idiot who obviously watched to many Grand National tail lights pull away from your ride. I STILL own my 87 GN, stock internals with 109k miles that has run VERY low 11's with mild bolt on's. Weird how my pistons haven't "collapsed" yet, LMAO. Have a great day my friend..
These are some great videos!! I had just graduated in May of 87 and my Dad had bought me a brand new 87 Trans am T top. I went to the drag strip in 89 I think for the 1st time. My best time I ever ran was 15:91 at 82 mph and that was the only time I ever ran in the 15’s, every other run was 16 to 16:50. Yeah that’s slow but I had a blast. I would never dreamed that now at 54 years old I could see a 3.5 v6 f150 bone stock run a 13:80 right off the lott. Thank You again for the video and bringing back great memories.
No bro, that wasn’t slow… That’s exactly what that car did in factory trim from a performance standpoint… I loved that car you had because, it was compatible to the IROC that year… The 87 mustang came out with the fuel injected 302 at that time, light weight, with no gear… Car needed more gear from the factory… But, when the Grand National came out swinging that year, no production car or truck could touch it in the quarter mile… My brother had a bone stock GN, I had pulleys, 3.73 gear, cold air, shortie exhaust, h-pipe, Motorsport clutch package with tremec transmission… All he did was change the rear gear in his car, still couldn’t run away from that turbo…👍🏾
My first time on a drag strip was in my bone stock 85 Mustang GT w/5 - speed and 3:08 gears. I ran a 14:89 and was ecstatic that I got in the 14's. Today a minivan would smoke me. Lol
Beleive it or not there aren't many mini vans running faster than that. Just because they have more hp don't mean they're faster. It's a van but I get what you're saying.
I'm also glad that these cars represent what they would be like on the street off the showroom floor they are obviously stock and represent realistic quarter mile times. The other king of the 80s was the LX Mustang. Again these cars represent realistic stock cars that you would buy yes you can modify them and do little trickery and really wake them up but for people who just raced on the street these cars are good representation and realistic quarter mile times.
Lx Mustang king of nothing. Brought my new Buick 87 T-Type put a carb spring over the turbo waste gate spring and ran 12's @ 17.5lbs boost on Texaco 94 octane. Right off the show room floor.😚More spring and 21 psi and ave gas and a cut out before the cat.
@@aphil4581, that’s exactly what I told someone else about that GN… That car was a complete assassin from the factory… The IROC or Corvette didn’t want none of that heat either… I remember two things about the GN I saw at the dealership in Metairie, La… They was priced higher than the corvette but, it scared certain people away because, it was just a V-6/ Turbo luxury car… I just called it that black on black Dale Earnhardt street killer back in the 90’s…👍🏾
@@southtexashustler The GN was NOT priced higher from the factory then a Vette in 86 or 87. The Corvette was priced around $29K back then and a Turbo Regal would set you back between $17k-$19K.
Didn’t know this was a thing …never heard anything about it.I’m glad I found this channel thanks for uploading all these videos!The fact he says the specs before each race makes this a lot more enjoyable.this is gold
My 72 340 road runner was the sleeper from hell. Had 4-11 gears with real traction control from dug,s rear ends in Los Angeles. It took on 440 455454. All day. Has 3500 stall auto. 3500-6500 isky cam. Headers license plate said race brd Later on I bought a four speed manual 72. That car was so fun. Could turn 180 degrees while driving 25 mph. Both could turn around in a second going opposite direction with no racing skills. Loved them.
Detroit iron from the 60's & 70's were handicapped by the skinny tires they wore...Their big inch powerplants had tons of torque which wins quarter mile races...
I fell in love with the 5.0 Mustangs back in the mid '80s after riding in a brand new 5.0 lol. I was instantly hooked, but I always thought I was a GM guy. Not after that lol. Honestly I love all #V8ponycars and American Iron.
@@nedaCFilms I hear ya. I used to go on the Ford lot after dark and drool all over the Foxbody's they had there. I would lay on the ground and look up under them checking out the exhaust and how the rear end was set up and check out the interior. I wouldnt go during daylight because if you werent buying they would run you off. And being dirt poor when I was young I certainly couldnt afford one. I love all Mustang's. but those Foxbody's still get me even today. I've only gotten the chance to own one in my day. And now they've gone so crazy on the money they're bringing I'll probably never be able to afford another one.
@@jimmycline4778 That's what I did. I had a modded 87 LX 5.0 that I thought was pretty quick when I raced a buddies GN. He cleaned my clocks bad! When i found out he had less then a grand in mods, I sold the LX (beautiful car BTW) and bought my 87 GN. Still have it but it now runs 11.0's with just bolt ons, and stock heads....
They were easy low 14 second runners straight off the showroom floor and some good tires and skilled driver could run 13s all day at the track. That was a fast small block equipped car in those days.
Not trying to take away from the Mopar, but the GN spun like crazy. Besides, they most likely would have tied since the GN's were running 14.4 (or better) that day.
@@nedaCFilms - That's what I said, "Monte Carlo SS" which always came with L69 and automatic (except in Mexico) and ran about 16 flat at 80 MPH stock... LG4 cars more like 18 flat and 75... In first race of this video the '77 Firebird turns a 15.87... might as well say 16...
This is awesome. My dad used to take me to Seattle International Raceway almost every weekend to see the drags. He used to hide beer under the backseat of his ‘67 Camaro 327 SS. I’m 50 and still remember these great times.
The 80's (85 and up) vettes where just as fast and handle better, also had higher top speeds. Most Vette owners didnt drag race though and where older guys.
@@80GP400 Yea......umm, no. The vette's were at least 10 grand more than a Turbo Regal and at best ran mid 14's. That's why the Buick engineers who developed the Buick GNX came up with the bumper sticker that read "We Brake for Corvettes". True story my friend..
That was some damn great racing. Those Gran Nationals were very tough in the 80's, but those Fox body's were quick too. I have had both, 60's muscle cars and 80's 5.0's. But that was some great racing. Thanks for posting
Just came across this channel. So good! So many think the 80's were a bad time for performance. Not the case. I love the 60's and early 70's muscle cars, but most of them were really not as quick as people remembered them or thought them to be. Nostalgia does weird things to people.
You are right. It’s also like the game of telephone we played in kindergarten, the story gets changed and exaggerated once it gets around the room lol.
The fastest ones ran 13s most were 14-15 so by the mid 80s the new cars were starting to compete again with old muscle for the first time since the gas crisis caused power to be cut to shit. The aftermarket as a whole wasn't as big then those are the cars that began the aftermarket taking off to what we have today.
The 80's cars where lighter too. In 78 they started downsizing the G body cars lost like 850 pounds. The Fox boy stangs where under 3000 pounds but with some mods the 60's and 70 cars where in the 11-14 second range.
@@WickedestVoodoo these were just regular non-GNX models, just Grand Nationals. GNX was such a rare model even back then. They would’ve really murdered everything lol.
@@BuzzLOLOL it was the drivers, NOT the cars. The 1986/87 GNs were capable of mid 13 second quarter miles STOCK. The ones that just idled at the line without putting it into boost are the ones running one to two seconds slower than the ones that knew how to drive one. I owned 11 so I know a little about them. The 1984/85 were slow due to non intercooled but even then they could hit mid 15s with a good driver.
@@gregallen9065 Couldn't have said it any better. It looks like a lot of the GN owners in this vid never raced their car before, because if they did they would have break boosted at the line before launching. Makes a HUGE difference in performance on those cars.....
I remember watching the struggle, but my 87 GN ran a 14.01 at 98. I did all the tricks from icing down the intake to tire pressure, and messing with the launch . Later it went 11.89 while looking bone stock but that was with m&h sticky tires tho.
Swap in a V8? Sorry.. had to. I do respect those era GN's but I need a V8 and 4 speed under my arse to remember what it was like to be an American during the coolest and best times ever.
@whichgodofthousandsmeansno5306 I had some fast car. A 1987 buick GNX, a gmc Syclone. Both v6, both faster than most v8 production stock cars. Having a v8 just for the sake of it is pointless. Especially during the time these races were recorded. Also, being from Europe, most of these cars were relatively fast, but on a straight line only. If you want to see some fast cars, watch some old rally group C races.
True but the Vette driver was sleeping at the lights and those 85 C4 came with 2:73 gears and 9.1 compression. I bet that demon has 4.11 or 3:75 and over 10 compression. Motor week tested a 85 vette that ran 13.9 stock.
Born in 78 , in the 90s we use to do this here in Ontario Canada , just uo the rd from my house ..city limits ...Oshawa ont...home of Gm ..at 16 in 93 i had a 82 mustang gt done up , then got a 83 lx , 88 lx , then into my 78 nova 383, trans am s 79,83,85,93 ...a couple camaros.....ahh the days of buy en em for 800 .. cleaning some terminals an throwing a carb an headers on em an reselling em for 2 grand lol
@@nedaCFilms That was my best friend John's car. We put headers and slicks on it and ran 13.00@110 the headers were open. John's brother Nick had a1974 4-speed white with blue deluxe interior. I still have my 74 auto Buccaneer red with black deluxe. John also had a 74 auto like mine,he sold that TA a few years before he got the Brewster green 73. He also had a 74 admiralty blue 4-speed that was hit in the rear quarter . Nobody would repair it back in the early 80's so he parted it out. John passed away in August 2016 he was 60. I miss my friend dearly. I knew him and his brother Nick since 1974.
Those Turbo Buicks! Being a Pontiac guy, I can only dream what an 80's T/A and Lemans with the Turbo 4.9 301 V8 and modern tech like SFI, intercoolers and electronic engine controls could have done.
One of my biggest regrets was selling my turbo 301 Trans Am Pace Car back in 2005. It only had 65,000 miles. That one still hurts.... also had a Formula 350 I sold in 1993. That one hurts too.
Pontiac almost put a turbo 4.9 v8 in the new for 82 trans am. If it would have been done and eventually benefitted from sequential fuel injection like the GN, it would have given the SD 455 cars a run for their money. O well, at least there was the limited edition 87 TA with a version of the GN motor. Those are very rare and collectible now.
Check out the 89 Pontiac Trans Am Pace cars only 1555 produced. They have very close variation of the Grand Nationls and T-Types 3.8 Turbo 6. They had to change the heads on the Trans am to a 3.0 Fwd Buick head to fit in the F-Body. Latercfinding out these heads flowed actually than the 3.8!
At first I was like "why aren't any of these killer muscle cars breaking below the 14's?"... then I heard "concours" and was like "ahh". I had no problem getting those cars into the low 13's, high 12's back in the day but they put us in a class called "modified stock". Gears. slicks, headers, carb, cam, port work and tearing out the pollution crap.. the usual.
Great footage. FINALLY, legit "Pure Stock" save for the obviously modified Buick at 1:29 and 14:00. Legit factory classic muscle cars were rarely in the 13s, as this plainly shows.
@camclarke9952 dude people didn't start putting gm under the hoods alot till the stupid ls swap trend bullshit came along. Bunch of brainless idiots that follow trends. In the 90s most mustangs had Ford power under the hood. Must mustangs still have Ford power under the hood. Plenty of people have gone fast with Ford power all the way back to the beginning stop spreading bullshit fantasy.
Wow! What a blast... My 89 5.0 LX was running 12.9's at 102 with Edelbrock heads and a b303 cam.. (6000 ft elevation) It was such a rush back then...😂 Its crazy how my son's Hyundai could have smoked it nowadays..😂😂😂😂
Had a 1987 IROC-Z (5.7 TPI) with stock heads, stock cam and stock intake, stock 3.23 gears, with full exhaust, underdrive pulleys, K&N filter, descreened and machined cooling fins in MAF and Hypertech Thermomaster chip, 160* thermostat and Hypertech cool fan switch ran 13.6 at either 104 or 106 mph (I can’t remember the trap speed, but remember it was something like that) those Tuned Port 350 engines had so much potential once you could get them to breath on intake and exhaust sides. Basically a completely stock engine other than very basic bolt-on mods. My buddy “Nate” had a ‘90 GT with Edelbrock heads and intake, E303 cam, 24lb injectors, pulleys, MSD ignition, 4.10 gears and he ran 12.9 as well. Have some videos of his black GT on the channel, running high 12s.
@@ct87gn25 Sorry to burst your bubble, but a Genesis g70 (Hyundai) easily runs in the 12s bone stock. My son's Kia Stinger the g70's twin (still a Hyundai) with just a few mods is running mid 11s, at 119, mph. (6000 ft elevation too)
Since Ford dropped the 289 in 1967, and replaced it with the 302.. I questioned the validity of whether a 1968 Torino ever having a factory 289, and found this: Torino GT models came standard with a 302 cu in (4.9 L)-2V small block V8 and this was also the base V8 engine optional on other models. Other available engines included a 390 cu in (6.4 L)-2V FE engine, 390 cu in (6.4 L)-4V FE engine and a 427 cu in (7.0 L)-4V FE engine. About one month within the beginning of the 1968 model year production, a six-week UAW strike against Ford occurred. This resulted in a cost-cutting measure of making a 289 cu in (4.7 L)-2V small block V8 the base V8 engine and the standard engine on the Torino GT. Ford did not change any of its factory sales literature to reflect this change.
At 1:06 the 1973 yellow mustang reminds me of the car they used In the older version of the movie gone in 60 seconds. The first film was made back in the mid 70s. Over 40 minutes of smashing up Dodge and Plymouth cop cars along with regular cars. The best part was when the Cadillac dealership got wiped out. Look it up and you will amazed of how many cars were trashed in the movie.
Not watched it yet will later ,but will like the video now and comment. Great videos man, this is Drag Racing , Muscle cars, not Ferrari,McLaren, BMWs or Audi's etc these cars are cool
kills me to see cars like the 1968 Torino w/289, Torino is a big car i had a 1969 Torino GT 428 a big motor for a big car. 289 Falcon & smaller cars weight wise i think Torino, Galaxy & LTD were biggest & heaviest of Fords at time? great motors just not enough go for the big beasts
I’m 72 and had 25 new cars…many muscle cars. What’s amazing is…I thought those cars were fast. But, now own 2019…last front engine C7 corvette z51…and with tune and CAI…runs 11.4 or better. I know because I smoked zl1 Camaro…which is 11.4. Today’s cars are dangerously fast!
You’re right Philip, today’s cars are dangerously fast as heck. I couldn’t imagine having access to a 500hp V8Ponycar when I was 16 years old lol. I bought my first Camaro when I was 17 back in the ‘80s, a 1974 Camaro built for 1/8 mile drag racing, probably 400hp, a TH400 tranny with reverse manual valve body, Winters racing shifter and neck snapping shift kit, with 4.56 gears and a spool, and after spinning it around in the road in front of my house, I quickly realized that this car would kill me lol, so I traded it for a 1971 Chevelle with a .480 cam, street dominator intake, Holley 600 carb, TH350 tranny with shift kit and S/S Cragars with M50 series tires stuffed up under it. It made maybe 275hp and ran low 14s and was still dangerous lol.
Johnny: "13.33 at 110mph" Announcer: "Bone stock?" Johnny; "Yea." Announcer: "That's really smokin, Johnny!" Me in 2021: 🤣🤣🤣 And before I get attacked, I was there. I was a kid in 1987, had an IROC that ran a 14.91 best and remember these numbers, and thinking that 13.33 WAS smoking. My comment is more in amazement of how far we've come, and not a put down. I've run 14.50 in my daily driver F150. To think that it would trounce my old Camaro is amazing.
The allure for me was in the Classic Muscle in the 80s. A strong good running muscle car with timing properly advanced out would take any of the 80s cars. I had a 70 Electra 4 door that would pull away from most any car around then. It had a Stage 1 cam, stock was 370 HP, Stage for sure added 15 or so. I remember stomping a Dart GT or Duster right on Lyndale avenue in MPLS....he was surprised for sure by the ol bomb. She would snap 2nd gear rubber at about 55 mph hitting 2nd gear towing a speed boat!
@@gt-37guy6 Yeah I loved the classic muscle too. My dad was an old full size Ford big block kind of guy, so that's what I was exposed to growing up. I was driving 427 Fords when I was 14. Always wanted a 66 or 67 Fairlane, but when I got into my late teens I fell in love with the Camaros. Never forget when I brought the IROC home he took one look at it and said 'don't ask me to work on it.' A few months after he passed, I probably made him proud by buying a GT 350. He wasn't a Mustang guy, but at least I finally have a Ford.
@@Boblib1970 Bolib....My first Mucle-car like ride was in a 66 T-Bird with the 428, owned by our neighbor. I was maybe 12 years old. When he pulled out on the highway entrance and floored that 428 my older brother and I looked at each other and were instantly hooked! Two weeks later we had a Musclecar encyclopedia, and we knew all of the engines / options / -performance for all of the muslecars of the 60s and 70s. Came in handy later in life for beer / garage related BS discussions! GT-350! Awesome -The newer Flat Plane crank models, or vintage?
@@gt-37guy6 Yep I learned a lot from my dad. Not just about 60s Fords, but a Chevy's and Mopars as well. I've got an '18 with the FPC. Got a lot of love for the classics, but I've also got my own likes. My mom has kept all of my dads cars, so I do still get to drive them. Jumping from a new Shelby to an old full sized 427 with no power steering, no power breaks, and drums all the way around is a helluva a shock. 🤣
Say what you will but the Grand National was King of the cars from the 80s. When I was younger I remember watching guys with all out race cars brought in on trailers pack up and leave as soon as they saw Grand Nationals pull into the strip. Didn't take much to get a Grand National into the 12's. I believe that's when Racers started learning how to use computers tuner engines.
It all depended on the driver. On the strip they had every setup on a ragged edge, which doesn't work as well on the street. I had an 86LX and beat all kinds of things on the street because I knew how to shift and practiced all day long
Back in 1993 I purchased a brand new Mustang LX coupe 5.0 5 speed and went ham on it with a belt driven supercharger, 351 ported heads, gears, long tube headers, X pipe cat bypass, cam and all the other typical bolt on's. I would make mince meat out of those V6 Buick GN's. But in stock form.. I have to give them some street cred. Just look at what it was doing to all those big block muscle cars from the day. I also have to give props to those 340 Mopars... how can anyone not if they were really from those days?
I love the 73 TA with the SD455. But it needs a 4 speed. Growing up I saw these all the time and loved them back then too. But the prices are so high now I can't even afford a plain 73 firebird to make a TA clone lol. So I have a 1995 TA instead. Maybe one day...
@@CamaroAmx SVO was a 4 banger & the 20th T/A had the Grand National 3.8 with reworked heads, ignition & exhaust! there were no other muscle cars with a V6!
Everyone has their preferences clearly, but as someone that grew up in a Pontiac household with a 78 solar gold w72 trans am and a 70 grand prix in the driveway, whose family also worked and retired from Pontiac, and then fell in love with the hi po 289 k code mustangs as i rode to school with someone that had a 66, and now as an adult having owned 9 mustangs including an 03 cobra, 08 s281 saleen, and currently a 2022 mach 1...and also a gto, 2 camaros, and a 2019 stingray with the 7 speed manual, as god intended, i can say i love all the American muscle. Every manufacturer has brought something to the table, and its just nice to see a video of all different kinds running well. You can keep those plug in tesla toys gen whatever this is...should be called confused sissies, idc how much instant torque they have. They are for people that need electronic nannies and driving lessons.. You wont EVER get the same experience from that overpriced muskmobile that you will from a 400+ cubic inch oversized cam, open headers and exhaust, with a shaker hood, growling, shaking and snarling at the line at the fool next to them in the other lane thats about to lose. Yeah im not politically correct. Im sure someone is gonna be offended and need some charmin, a safe space, and a hug from their momma, but I grew up before everyone woke up looking to be offended at everything, so if i make someone mad then good. As my mom said, youre bound to get glad again eventually. Id rather run a low 13 sec at 100+mph 1/4 in a big block American v8 than some plug in, self driving cookie cutter car. Who wants a car that drives you? Teslas are definitely meant for this current generation of skinny jean wearing they identify as whatever...mentally ill people. Id rather be called old, a gen x'er or whatever than be in the current generation. I just enjoy the fact that if my car should happen to be stolen, we can narrow the suspects down to 30+ year olds, as 99% of these snowflakes cant count to 6 or 7 speeds, let alone row the gears in a manual one. 😂😂. Bring on the BAN and upset people.. i collect your tears and store them in my pillowcase nightly. Thank god for ford keeping the v8s alive. Dodge got neutered and chevy got abandoned. I suppose its only right the company that started it all keeps the v8s alive the longest. Yeah im rambling. Yeah im an "old head"...but god bless the v8s and manuals and the hybrid, electric wonders can all SUCK A FAT ONE.
This wasn't that long ago, well seems like it, haha. I used to do this every weekend with my 69 SS Camaro. It's about impossible to see lower times in these cars on street tires. None of them hook up and spin a lot.
And if you had a STRONG running high HP classic Musclecar, you would stomp the little "Litre" cars nicely. But most driver - grade muscle was 15 second-ish car.
OMG.....some of these Grand National drivers hitting mid 15's? Then others running the low 13's like they were easily capable of....such a difference the driver makes.
@@ct87gn25 yes, no kidding. I have owned 11 over the years. And NOT brake boosting a turbo car for launch is ridiculous. Especially on a stock converter with a pure stock tune.
@@ct87gn25you are exactly right. Some of the GN owners didn’t yet know or understand how to come out of the hole with boost. They would just stab the gas. The fellas that learned how to brake boost made Grand National a legend.
@@theunderworld1163 crazy thing is that these were just GN models, no GNX models competed in this, which the GNXs were even faster than the regular GNs lol.
There was two different classes running, concours which is 100% showroom factory stock and pure stock, which we know isn’t actually showroom stock, but stock, ish lol
a good set of rear tires & a nice break boost off the line is just about all you need to show a low/mid13s run.. family owned car lots for 40+yrs.. they run great if you know how to drive them.. not like a Iroc, Gt, Gta or vette.. you don’t just hold the break & Tromp them on Green!
@@justme307 my ‘87 gn run a 13.4.. lots of folks don’t understand how to break boost a turbo charged vehicle & what a Difference it makes.. like putting a short throw shifter, gear & subframe connectors on a foxbody.. makes them a whole different ride!
I can't believe this exists, simply amazing. When else are people ever going to see a 69 Trans Am Ram Air IV on a drag strip? Wow wow wow!
Dang straight. But if you thing that RA IV trans am is valuable then check out the car at 15:33!
A 67 GTX hemi ragtop ( 1 of 17 made in 67! )....are you kidding me????? Also, how bout the 73 SD 455 Trans Am too!
@@chrisauten2039 lol,the good ‘ole days.
There’s a bunch more on the channel #MuscleCarTimeMachine
Man the 80s wasnt that gay after all! I guess it depended on where you spent your weekends
@@rodan2852 the ‘80s were a magical decade! Especially the mid-late ‘80s lol.
I will never get tired of hearing that turbo from those grand nationals crossing the finish line!
It’s a beautiful thing
Not stock
I prefer the sound of a N/A or supercharged V8. A banana in the tailpipe can produce a whistle. Call me old school.
@@barbar-w4dit was stock.
@@barbar-w4d MOST of those Turbo Buicks were 100% factory, down to the shitty p215-65-15 skinny tires. These cars were brand new, some not even broken in. The aftermarket didn't really have anything for them yet. Some guys knew how to tune and more importantly, LAUNCH them. those were the faster cars in the video.
This is the kinda drag racing, I really enjoy watching! 🤝🏼K.y.
Love the fact that these are stock and no mods!
LOL !!! ... Many of them no where near 'stock'... while others were total slugs...
@@BuzzLOLOL And which one's were "no where near 'stock'"?
@@231macOne of those grand nationals wasn't stock because they never came with the blow off valve you can hear after he lets out of the throttle when he's done doing his burn out . Those grand nationals were quick but a lot of them blew up because of the turbo's pressure caused the pistons to collapse plus they had oiling issues for the turbo that would cause the turbo's bearings to fail because of lack of cool oil and not enough oil pressure so the bearings would fail and if the oil wasn't changed regularly the dirty oil that the viscosity would decrease from the heat would kill those turbo bearings . I worked at a shop that we had a couple come in to be fixed because of these issues I'm saying . You can definitely see who can cut a light good and drive verses someone that's sleeping at the light and can't power shift a 4 speed with some of these cars . Those 340 Dusters and Darts could easily if a few simple things done to the tune of the engine and be in the 12s all-day long . Some of the national record setting 340 cars are running 10s in the 1/4 mile with not that much done to them and the 340 was always underated for it's HP numbers and were called the big block dragon slayer known for spanking a lot of big block cars of the time in the 1/4 mile. Seems like some of the newer mustangs I'm seeing here were running faster than they would stock from the factory because I've driven some of them and they were slugs even with the injected 5.0 with the 5 SPD manual compared to some of the muscle cars I have worked on and test driven years ago back when i worked at some speed shops and im talking hundreds of old cars muscle cars and drag cars at a shop in MN that was sponsored by the MSRA . We had built a car for a guy that was a 69 Pontiac GTO a full tube chassis big tire car with a 455 HO block but with all the goodies in the engine that was making 1,500 HP to the rear wheels on our chassis dyno and at 1 time it was a national record setting drag car running low 8s at 165+ mph in the 1/4 mile and at that time it's was the quickest and fastest all Pontiac powered drag car in the USA . We used to test and tune the car at Brainered international raceway years ago and I still have a picture of the car hanging in my garage to this day now that I'm retired but still build some muscle cars and rat rods with a buddy of mine in his shop just to stay busy .
@@peteloomis8456 Oh man, where to start, LOL. There were NO blow-off valves available, as well as other "go fast" parts for the Turbo Regals back when the 86-87 intercooled cars first came out. Ask me how I know. Also, your comment "Those grand nationals were quick but a lot of them blew up because of the turbo's pressure caused the pistons to collapse plus they had oiling issues for the turbo that would cause the turbo's bearings to fail because of lack of cool oil and not enough oil pressure so the bearings would fail and if the oil wasn't changed regularly the dirty oil that the viscosity would decrease from the heat would kill those turbo bearings " is outright laughable!!
We use to laugh at guys like you when they would walk up to us and tell us how crappy our cars were. Your comment about the "pistons collapseing" tells ANYONE who actually knows and OWNED these cars that you're an idiot who obviously watched to many Grand National tail lights pull away from your ride. I STILL own my 87 GN, stock internals with 109k miles that has run VERY low 11's with mild bolt on's. Weird how my pistons haven't "collapsed" yet, LMAO. Have a great day my friend..
These are some great videos!! I had just graduated in May of 87 and my Dad had bought me a brand new 87 Trans am T top. I went to the drag strip in 89 I think for the 1st time. My best time I ever ran was 15:91 at 82 mph and that was the only time I ever ran in the 15’s, every other run was 16 to 16:50. Yeah that’s slow but I had a blast. I would never dreamed that now at 54 years old I could see a 3.5 v6 f150 bone stock run a 13:80 right off the lott. Thank You again for the video and bringing back great memories.
No bro, that wasn’t slow… That’s exactly what that car did in factory trim from a performance standpoint… I loved that car you had because, it was compatible to the IROC that year… The 87 mustang came out with the fuel injected 302 at that time, light weight, with no gear… Car needed more gear from the factory… But, when the Grand National came out swinging that year, no production car or truck could touch it in the quarter mile… My brother had a bone stock GN, I had pulleys, 3.73 gear, cold air, shortie exhaust, h-pipe, Motorsport clutch package with tremec transmission… All he did was change the rear gear in his car, still couldn’t run away from that turbo…👍🏾
@@southtexashustler yeah, we would’ve hung out in the ‘80s brother 😉
Loved the Brewster Green 73 SD-455 Trans Am, very rare car, over 6 figures today.
There's no cooler car in my eyes. Brewster green makes it even cooler.
A million dollars plus?? Umm 🫤 show me
. 6 figures means $100,000 +
My first time on a drag strip was in my bone stock 85 Mustang GT w/5 - speed and 3:08 gears. I ran a 14:89 and was ecstatic that I got in the 14's. Today a minivan would smoke me. Lol
14s were fast back in the '80s
@@nedaCFilms Yep, imagine my surprise when a year later C&D did a road test on a 86 GN. That GN ran 13.9 quarter mile on a damp track.
@@281cobracar7 - Then '87 GNX ran low 13's...
Which minivan? Be specific.
Beleive it or not there aren't many mini vans running faster than that. Just because they have more hp don't mean they're faster. It's a van but I get what you're saying.
I'm also glad that these cars represent what they would be like on the street off the showroom floor they are obviously stock and represent realistic quarter mile times.
The other king of the 80s was the LX Mustang. Again these cars represent realistic stock cars that you would buy yes you can modify them and do little trickery and really wake them up but for people who just raced on the street these cars are good representation and realistic quarter mile times.
Yeah many of these cars were running Concours Class and were 100% showroom factory stock.
Lx Mustang king of nothing. Brought my new Buick 87 T-Type put a carb spring over the turbo waste gate spring and ran 12's @ 17.5lbs boost on Texaco 94 octane. Right off the show room floor.😚More spring and 21 psi and ave gas and a cut out before the cat.
@@aphil4581, that’s exactly what I told someone else about that GN… That car was a complete assassin from the factory… The IROC or Corvette didn’t want none of that heat either… I remember two things about the GN I saw at the dealership in Metairie, La… They was priced higher than the corvette but, it scared certain people away because, it was just a V-6/ Turbo luxury car… I just called it that black on black Dale Earnhardt street killer back in the 90’s…👍🏾
@@aphil4581thank you for saying that. I noticed his hating ass didn't bring up the mighty GN the True king of 80s Muscle Car movement.
@@southtexashustler The GN was NOT priced higher from the factory then a Vette in 86 or 87. The Corvette was priced around $29K back then and a Turbo Regal would set you back between $17k-$19K.
Didn’t know this was a thing …never heard anything about it.I’m glad I found this channel thanks for uploading all these videos!The fact he says the specs before each race makes this a lot more enjoyable.this is gold
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I wonder what you were smoking
@@mickeymighty1866 it was great stuff , I’m from California so I get a hold of some high quality marijuana.
My 72 340 road runner was the sleeper from hell. Had 4-11 gears with real traction control from dug,s rear ends in Los Angeles. It took on 440 455454. All day. Has 3500 stall auto. 3500-6500 isky cam. Headers license plate said race brd Later on I bought a four speed manual 72. That car was so fun. Could turn 180 degrees while driving 25 mph. Both could turn around in a second going opposite direction with no racing skills. Loved them.
Detroit iron from the 60's & 70's were handicapped by the skinny tires they wore...Their big inch powerplants had tons of torque which wins quarter mile races...
I'm a Ford guy, but I thought those Buick GN's were a beautiful car back in the day. I loved em.
I fell in love with the 5.0 Mustangs back in the mid '80s after riding in a brand new 5.0 lol. I was instantly hooked, but I always thought I was a GM guy. Not after that lol. Honestly I love all #V8ponycars and American Iron.
@@nedaCFilms I hear ya. I used to go on the Ford lot after dark and drool all over the Foxbody's they had there. I would lay on the ground and look up under them checking out the exhaust and how the rear end was set up and check out the interior. I wouldnt go during daylight because if you werent buying they would run you off. And being dirt poor when I was young I certainly couldnt afford one. I love all Mustang's. but those Foxbody's still get me even today. I've only gotten the chance to own one in my day. And now they've gone so crazy on the money they're bringing I'll probably never be able to afford another one.
Come over to the dark side then!
@@jimmycline4778 That's what I did. I had a modded 87 LX 5.0 that I thought was pretty quick when I raced a buddies GN. He cleaned my clocks bad! When i found out he had less then a grand in mods, I sold the LX (beautiful car BTW) and bought my 87 GN. Still have it but it now runs 11.0's with just bolt ons, and stock heads....
3:16 Yep I knew this was going to happen. Those 340s are incredibly fast
They were easy low 14 second runners straight off the showroom floor and some good tires and skilled driver could run 13s all day at the track. That was a fast small block equipped car in those days.
Not trying to take away from the Mopar, but the GN spun like crazy. Besides, they most likely would have tied since the GN's were running 14.4 (or better) that day.
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What helped was that those early dusters weighed around 3400 lbs, if that. The 68-'72 GM A body's were around 3800 lbs. Similar size cars
That's really smokin', Johnny.
Lmao
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Those 1970's big block cars are running like an '86 Monte Carlo SS with 305" V8 !
@@BuzzLOLOL '86 Monte Carlo was lucky to run 15s "if" it had the L69 H.O 305. If it had the LG4 it was 16 seconds at best lol.
@@nedaCFilms - That's what I said, "Monte Carlo SS" which always came with L69 and automatic (except in Mexico) and ran about 16 flat at 80 MPH stock... LG4 cars more like 18 flat and 75...
In first race of this video the '77 Firebird turns a 15.87... might as well say 16...
What a time to be alive. Im many moons too late, all good is gone. Cars & racing culture will never be this way again.
It really was a magical time ❤️
You're right, you could buy a '70 super bee and no one will know what it is, the culture doesn't appreciate good cars anymore
Just the way I remember the tracks in the 80’s, plenty of Grand Nationals😊
Priceless footage! Love the content.
Man I love this stock action
Lovin the Ford Excursion on your profile pic!
@@nedaCFilms yea man thanx for now the excursion my daily it’s a v10 powered on 10 in lift and 38x 15.5 R20 tire
This is awesome. My dad used to take me to Seattle International Raceway almost every weekend to see the drags. He used to hide beer under the backseat of his ‘67 Camaro 327 SS.
I’m 50 and still remember these great times.
SD 455 was a hot running engine- nothing could touch it in 1973
Yeah, I think you’re probably right. The Super Duty 455 was surely the strongest engine of 1973 and the rest of the ‘70s decade.
The GN and fox bodies seem to really rule in the 80's
The 80's (85 and up) vettes where just as fast and handle better, also had higher top speeds. Most Vette owners didnt drag race though and where older guys.
Yeah, they really lightened up those cars in the 80s.👍👍
Pretty cool!! Just a reminder of how fast the Grand National was. Also pretty amazing how a 225 horsepower Fox could compete.
@@80GP400 Yea......umm, no. The vette's were at least 10 grand more than a Turbo Regal and at best ran mid 14's. That's why the Buick engineers who developed the Buick GNX came up with the bumper sticker that read "We Brake for Corvettes". True story my friend..
That was some damn great racing. Those Gran Nationals were very tough in the 80's, but those Fox body's were quick too. I have had both, 60's muscle cars and 80's 5.0's. But that was some great racing. Thanks for posting
good times,80s and 90s drags were some of the best..
It sure was bud!
Memories are so much better than reality.
Always
Just came across this channel. So good! So many think the 80's were a bad time for performance. Not the case. I love the 60's and early 70's muscle cars, but most of them were really not as quick as people remembered them or thought them to be. Nostalgia does weird things to people.
You are right. It’s also like the game of telephone we played in kindergarten, the story gets changed and exaggerated once it gets around the room lol.
The fastest ones ran 13s most were 14-15 so by the mid 80s the new cars were starting to compete again with old muscle for the first time since the gas crisis caused power to be cut to shit. The aftermarket as a whole wasn't as big then those are the cars that began the aftermarket taking off to what we have today.
@@midnight347 that is exactly right. By the mid ‘80s manufacturers figured out how to balance fuel efficiency, emissions and performance.
The 80's cars where lighter too. In 78 they started downsizing the G body cars lost like 850 pounds. The Fox boy stangs where under 3000 pounds but with some mods the 60's and 70 cars where in the 11-14 second range.
I like how the GNX was basically the GTR of its day. You just know the winner before they leave the line.
@@WickedestVoodoo these were just regular non-GNX models, just Grand Nationals. GNX was such a rare model even back then. They would’ve really murdered everything lol.
Nice to see them old school cars still kicking AZZ 💯 Mopars 🔥
This is about when i got into cars and racing! Pure gold! Thanks for posting!
Was a magical time really. Great music, cool movies, awesome cars…. fantastic time to be alive.
Video could be called a bunch of Grand Nationals walking on other cars.
Some Grand Nationals ran good, others were weak... no GNX's? ... most of the Mustangs were no wheres near 'stock'...
@@BuzzLOLOL it was the drivers, NOT the cars. The 1986/87 GNs were capable of mid 13 second quarter miles STOCK. The ones that just idled at the line without putting it into boost are the ones running one to two seconds slower than the ones that knew how to drive one. I owned 11 so I know a little about them.
The 1984/85 were slow due to non intercooled but even then they could hit mid 15s with a good driver.
@@gregallen9065 - Yeah, I know about using boost correctly, in the 1960's my daily driver was the Jetfire...
Except for that challenger
@@gregallen9065 Couldn't have said it any better. It looks like a lot of the GN owners in this vid never raced their car before, because if they did they would have break boosted at the line before launching. Makes a HUGE difference in performance on those cars.....
I remember watching the struggle, but my 87 GN ran a 14.01 at 98. I did all the tricks from icing down the intake to tire pressure, and messing with the launch . Later it went 11.89 while looking bone stock but that was with m&h sticky tires tho.
Swap in a V8? Sorry.. had to. I do respect those era GN's but I need a V8 and 4 speed under my arse to remember what it was like to be an American during the coolest and best times ever.
@whichgodofthousandsmeansno5306 I had some fast car. A 1987 buick GNX, a gmc Syclone. Both v6, both faster than most v8 production stock cars. Having a v8 just for the sake of it is pointless. Especially during the time these races were recorded. Also, being from Europe, most of these cars were relatively fast, but on a straight line only.
If you want to see some fast cars, watch some old rally group C races.
Absolutely love those Grand Nationals and 5.0 Mustangs
That Demon smoking that Vette was Epic!!!!!!!! Love the commentator giving the size of all the V8's too
True but the Vette driver was sleeping at the lights and those 85 C4 came with 2:73 gears and 9.1 compression. I bet that demon has 4.11 or 3:75 and over 10 compression. Motor week tested a 85 vette that ran 13.9 stock.
Born in 78 , in the 90s we use to do this here in Ontario Canada , just uo the rd from my house ..city limits ...Oshawa ont...home of Gm ..at 16 in 93 i had a 82 mustang gt done up , then got a 83 lx , 88 lx , then into my 78 nova 383, trans am s 79,83,85,93 ...a couple camaros.....ahh the days of buy en em for 800 .. cleaning some terminals an throwing a carb an headers on em an reselling em for 2 grand lol
Those grand nationals kicked ass - wow amazing car-
They were straight killers!
Loved this video, I don't know why any of those other race videos show you all the races but you Never know in the end WHO wins or their times! Smdh
That '73 Poncho was kicking ass and taking names.
I would love to own that Super Duty 455
@@nedaCFilms That was my best friend John's car. We put headers and slicks on it and ran 13.00@110 the headers were open. John's brother Nick had a1974 4-speed white with blue deluxe interior. I still have my 74 auto Buccaneer red with black deluxe. John also had a 74 auto like mine,he sold that TA a few years before he got the Brewster green 73. He also had a 74 admiralty blue 4-speed that was hit in the rear quarter . Nobody would repair it back in the early 80's so he parted it out. John passed away in August 2016 he was 60. I miss my friend dearly. I knew him and his brother Nick since 1974.
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The hay day, well my time anyway for drag racing... Awesome!
Those Turbo Buicks! Being a Pontiac guy, I can only dream what an 80's T/A and Lemans with the Turbo 4.9 301 V8 and modern tech like SFI, intercoolers and electronic engine controls could have done.
One of my biggest regrets was selling my turbo 301 Trans Am Pace Car back in 2005. It only had 65,000 miles. That one still hurts.... also had a Formula 350 I sold in 1993. That one hurts too.
@@nedaCFilms I loved my '89 Formula 350 ! The car had every option available. A consistent 14:40's car in stock trim.
Pontiac almost put a turbo 4.9 v8 in the new for 82 trans am. If it would have been done and eventually benefitted from sequential fuel injection like the GN, it would have given the SD 455 cars a run for their money.
O well, at least there was the limited edition 87 TA with a version of the GN motor. Those are very rare and collectible now.
@@chrisauten2039 That was a 89 Turbo Trans Am with the Buick turbo engine......
Check out the 89 Pontiac Trans Am Pace cars only 1555 produced. They have very close variation of the Grand Nationls and T-Types 3.8 Turbo 6. They had to change the heads on the Trans am to a 3.0 Fwd Buick head to fit in the F-Body. Latercfinding out these heads flowed actually than the 3.8!
If I was racing against a pure stock turbo car they would need to prove to me the boost is at what ever it was set at stock.
Nobody who has a factory turbo car leaves their turbo at factory settings, at least not for long. But it is still a factory turbo!
Awesome Memories right there.
Properly driven Turbo six Buicks dominated OTHERWISE the MoPar 340's would have.....Mopar 340 really is overlooked but
could really move.
The Good ol days
The GN's were and are the man!
At first I was like "why aren't any of these killer muscle cars breaking below the 14's?"... then I heard "concours" and was like "ahh". I had no problem getting those cars into the low 13's, high 12's back in the day but they put us in a class called "modified stock". Gears. slicks, headers, carb, cam, port work and tearing out the pollution crap.. the usual.
Great footage. FINALLY, legit "Pure Stock" save for the obviously modified Buick at 1:29 and 14:00. Legit factory classic muscle cars were rarely in the 13s, as this plainly shows.
PURE stock means PURE STOCK. The cars were inspected before running. That GN owner knew how to tune AND LAUNCH his car.
The good old days, excellent content my man!💯🔥
Really liked this "young lion versus old lion" stuff (well, by today, they are all old...) Thanks again.
Thanks buddy 😉
Love these even though I'm an 80s baby.
And that’s this is why the 5.0 HO became a legend. Bang for the buck. Grand Nationals were nearly 50% more expensive than a Mustang LX 5.0.
That's right, and you could buy a 5.0 Mustang LX for $10,000 back then.
They became a legend in the 90s when every other one had a Chevy under the hood...
@camclarke9952 dude people didn't start putting gm under the hoods alot till the stupid ls swap trend bullshit came along. Bunch of brainless idiots that follow trends. In the 90s most mustangs had Ford power under the hood. Must mustangs still have Ford power under the hood. Plenty of people have gone fast with Ford power all the way back to the beginning stop spreading bullshit fantasy.
A nice video and cool cars. Thumbs Up !
Wow! What a blast... My 89 5.0 LX was running 12.9's at 102 with Edelbrock heads and a b303 cam.. (6000 ft elevation)
It was such a rush back then...😂
Its crazy how my son's Hyundai could have smoked it nowadays..😂😂😂😂
Had a 1987 IROC-Z (5.7 TPI) with stock heads, stock cam and stock intake, stock 3.23 gears, with full exhaust, underdrive pulleys, K&N filter, descreened and machined cooling fins in MAF and Hypertech Thermomaster chip, 160* thermostat and Hypertech cool fan switch ran 13.6 at either 104 or 106 mph (I can’t remember the trap speed, but remember it was something like that) those Tuned Port 350 engines had so much potential once you could get them to breath on intake and exhaust sides. Basically a completely stock engine other than very basic bolt-on mods.
My buddy “Nate” had a ‘90 GT with Edelbrock heads and intake, E303 cam, 24lb injectors, pulleys, MSD ignition, 4.10 gears and he ran 12.9 as well. Have some videos of his black GT on the channel, running high 12s.
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Man, I so much wanted a IROC just couldn't get over the added sticker over the 5.0..
What were they going for, 15k or so?
@@ahawk1968 yeah man, the LX Mustang was such a better bang for the buck! A lot of car for $10k
LOL, pretty sure HYUNDAI doesn't sell a 12 second car, even today. Tell your son he's lying to you my friend.
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Sorry to burst your bubble, but a Genesis g70 (Hyundai) easily runs in the 12s bone stock. My son's Kia Stinger the g70's twin (still a Hyundai) with just a few mods is running mid 11s, at 119, mph. (6000 ft elevation too)
History being made Lawrence Conley
He was a pure stock O.G for sure.
Beech Bend, one of the best 1/4 mile tracks around. Them GN & 5.0 hurting a lot of feelings!
I had a 396 chevelle I raced in the 87 muscle car nationals at beech bend , was a great time.
Those vintage 340's are the only ones that could stay close to the Grand National Buicks.
More GN's at this place than at a Buick Showroom. Cant believe the abuse the GNs out on the others.
Since Ford dropped the 289 in 1967, and replaced it with the 302.. I questioned the validity of whether a 1968 Torino ever having a factory 289, and found this:
Torino GT models came standard with a 302 cu in (4.9 L)-2V small block V8 and this was also the base V8 engine optional on other models. Other available engines included a 390 cu in (6.4 L)-2V FE engine, 390 cu in (6.4 L)-4V FE engine and a 427 cu in (7.0 L)-4V FE engine. About one month within the beginning of the 1968 model year production, a six-week UAW strike against Ford occurred. This resulted in a cost-cutting measure of making a 289 cu in (4.7 L)-2V small block V8 the base V8 engine and the standard engine on the Torino GT. Ford did not change any of its factory sales literature to reflect this change.
At 1:06 the 1973 yellow mustang reminds me of the car they used In the older version of the movie gone in 60 seconds. The first film was made back in the mid 70s. Over 40 minutes of smashing up Dodge and Plymouth cop cars along with regular cars. The best part was when the Cadillac dealership got wiped out. Look it up and you will amazed of how many cars were trashed in the movie.
That demon is really moving
Those 340 Demons would run!
Not watched it yet will later ,but will like the video now and comment. Great videos man, this is Drag Racing , Muscle cars, not Ferrari,McLaren, BMWs or Audi's etc these cars are cool
kills me to see cars like the 1968 Torino w/289, Torino is a big car i had a 1969 Torino GT 428 a big motor for a big car. 289 Falcon & smaller cars weight wise i think Torino, Galaxy & LTD were biggest & heaviest of Fords at time? great motors just not enough go for the big beasts
God how I remember those days I was a young carefree hormone enraged youngster with a hotrod heart lol and a 70 1/2 RA powered TA.
The late ‘80s was an amazing time to be alive!
same feeling when I watch those japanese vhs drift clips from the 90's. nostalgic even tho I've never experienced it irl
I’m 72 and had 25 new cars…many muscle cars. What’s amazing is…I thought those cars were fast. But, now own 2019…last front engine C7 corvette z51…and with tune and CAI…runs 11.4 or better. I know because I smoked zl1 Camaro…which is 11.4. Today’s cars are dangerously fast!
Ps…had a t-type Buick 3.8 with garret turbo…like gn…fast
You’re right Philip, today’s cars are dangerously fast as heck. I couldn’t imagine having access to a 500hp V8Ponycar when I was 16 years old lol. I bought my first Camaro when I was 17 back in the ‘80s, a 1974 Camaro built for 1/8 mile drag racing, probably 400hp, a TH400 tranny with reverse manual valve body, Winters racing shifter and neck snapping shift kit, with 4.56 gears and a spool, and after spinning it around in the road in front of my house, I quickly realized that this car would kill me lol, so I traded it for a 1971 Chevelle with a .480 cam, street dominator intake, Holley 600 carb, TH350 tranny with shift kit and S/S Cragars with M50 series tires stuffed up under it. It made maybe 275hp and ran low 14s and was still dangerous lol.
God, take me back to the 80s
That’s the whole purpose of the channel, closest way I could think to build a “Time Machine” was by sharing video footage from the ‘80s and ‘90s ❤️
@@nedaCFilmsThank you, try to keep videos like this coming! 🤝🏼💯
@@scarface9617 be sure to subscribe for more 😉
Cool video. Love the Buick GN. But some of those others are sllooww!! Lol
Should have just made it 5.0 vs Buick
Johnny: "13.33 at 110mph"
Announcer: "Bone stock?"
Johnny; "Yea."
Announcer: "That's really smokin, Johnny!"
Me in 2021: 🤣🤣🤣
And before I get attacked, I was there. I was a kid in 1987, had an IROC that ran a 14.91 best and remember these numbers, and thinking that 13.33 WAS smoking.
My comment is more in amazement of how far we've come, and not a put down. I've run 14.50 in my daily driver F150. To think that it would trounce my old Camaro is amazing.
13.3 was smokin lol
The allure for me was in the Classic Muscle in the 80s. A strong good running muscle car with timing properly advanced out would take any of the 80s cars. I had a 70 Electra 4 door that would pull away from most any car around then. It had a Stage 1 cam, stock was 370 HP, Stage for sure added 15 or so. I remember stomping a Dart GT or Duster right on Lyndale avenue in MPLS....he was surprised for sure by the ol bomb. She would snap 2nd gear rubber at about 55 mph hitting 2nd gear towing a speed boat!
@@gt-37guy6 Yeah I loved the classic muscle too. My dad was an old full size Ford big block kind of guy, so that's what I was exposed to growing up. I was driving 427 Fords when I was 14. Always wanted a 66 or 67 Fairlane, but when I got into my late teens I fell in love with the Camaros. Never forget when I brought the IROC home he took one look at it and said 'don't ask me to work on it.' A few months after he passed, I probably made him proud by buying a GT 350. He wasn't a Mustang guy, but at least I finally have a Ford.
@@Boblib1970 Bolib....My first Mucle-car like ride was in a 66 T-Bird with the 428, owned by our neighbor. I was maybe 12 years old. When he pulled out on the highway entrance and floored that 428 my older brother and I looked at each other and were instantly hooked! Two weeks later we had a Musclecar encyclopedia, and we knew all of the engines / options / -performance for all of the muslecars of the 60s and 70s. Came in handy later in life for beer / garage related BS discussions! GT-350! Awesome -The newer Flat Plane crank models, or vintage?
@@gt-37guy6 Yep I learned a lot from my dad. Not just about 60s Fords, but a Chevy's and Mopars as well.
I've got an '18 with the FPC. Got a lot of love for the classics, but I've also got my own likes. My mom has kept all of my dads cars, so I do still get to drive them. Jumping from a new Shelby to an old full sized 427 with no power steering, no power breaks, and drums all the way around is a helluva a shock. 🤣
Look at that 340 giant killer go baby go
Those 340 engines were something in their day!
Say what you will but the Grand National was King of the cars from the 80s. When I was younger I remember watching guys with all out race cars brought in on trailers pack up and leave as soon as they saw Grand Nationals pull into the strip. Didn't take much to get a Grand National into the 12's. I believe that's when Racers started learning how to use computers tuner engines.
@Richard Kistner No doubt. 63-70 had some real bad a## cars. Especially the thunderbolt and cammers.
@Richard Kistner not to forget the clea veland
@Richard Kistner - Stock '87 GNX's ran with or beat fastest stock '60-'70s cars...
It all depended on the driver. On the strip they had every setup on a ragged edge, which doesn't work as well on the street. I had an 86LX and beat all kinds of things on the street because I knew how to shift and practiced all day long
@@BuzzLOLOL Most of the old school, everyday factory muscle cars ran mid to high 14's. They were limited by the tire technology of the day.
Back in 1993 I purchased a brand new Mustang LX coupe 5.0 5 speed and went ham on it with a belt driven supercharger, 351 ported heads, gears, long tube headers, X pipe cat bypass, cam and all the other typical bolt on's. I would make mince meat out of those V6 Buick GN's. But in stock form.. I have to give them some street cred. Just look at what it was doing to all those big block muscle cars from the day.
I also have to give props to those 340 Mopars... how can anyone not if they were really from those days?
Grand Nationals eating everyone up!
Yeah, they seemed to do that a lot back then lol.
I love this series
Thanks! My son's name is Caden lol.
Tons of new Grand nationals...wow
Yeah they were strong runners.
Amazing video! Did he say these are all bone stock basically beside what was described? Awesome!
Some of these cars were “concours class” 100% factory showroom stock.
I love the 73 TA with the SD455. But it needs a 4 speed. Growing up I saw these all the time and loved them back then too. But the prices are so high now I can't even afford a plain 73 firebird to make a TA clone lol. So I have a 1995 TA instead. Maybe one day...
Those Gran Natinals cleaned house!!!
Yes they did lol
16:33 I didn’t see that coming, he almost blew my ears out on my head phones when he said dude red lighted, it woke me up though!
drag race time machine tome
I wonder where that ‘73 super duty Trans Am is today..
Buick Grand National, the only muscle car to rock the V6
Nope. Mustang SVO, Trans am 20th anniversary edition.
@@CamaroAmx SVO was a turbo 4. 20th anniversary TA was the Buick V6.
@@CamaroAmx SVO was a 4 banger & the 20th T/A had the Grand National 3.8 with reworked heads, ignition & exhaust! there were no other muscle cars with a V6!
@@SquirminHermanthe1eyedGerman not in the us but Australia had the 265 hemi slant 6 in their version of the charger. That thing was a screamer.
@@CamaroAmx ahhhh, the Aussie Charger! I wish they had made the HEMI 6 here, it was suppose to replace the slant 6 in 1969 but never happened
Everyone has their preferences clearly, but as someone that grew up in a Pontiac household with a 78 solar gold w72 trans am and a 70 grand prix in the driveway, whose family also worked and retired from Pontiac, and then fell in love with the hi po 289 k code mustangs as i rode to school with someone that had a 66, and now as an adult having owned 9 mustangs including an 03 cobra, 08 s281 saleen, and currently a 2022 mach 1...and also a gto, 2 camaros, and a 2019 stingray with the 7 speed manual, as god intended, i can say i love all the American muscle. Every manufacturer has brought something to the table, and its just nice to see a video of all different kinds running well. You can keep those plug in tesla toys gen whatever this is...should be called confused sissies, idc how much instant torque they have. They are for people that need electronic nannies and driving lessons.. You wont EVER get the same experience from that overpriced muskmobile that you will from a 400+ cubic inch oversized cam, open headers and exhaust, with a shaker hood, growling, shaking and snarling at the line at the fool next to them in the other lane thats about to lose. Yeah im not politically correct. Im sure someone is gonna be offended and need some charmin, a safe space, and a hug from their momma, but I grew up before everyone woke up looking to be offended at everything, so if i make someone mad then good. As my mom said, youre bound to get glad again eventually. Id rather run a low 13 sec at 100+mph 1/4 in a big block American v8 than some plug in, self driving cookie cutter car. Who wants a car that drives you? Teslas are definitely meant for this current generation of skinny jean wearing they identify as whatever...mentally ill people. Id rather be called old, a gen x'er or whatever than be in the current generation. I just enjoy the fact that if my car should happen to be stolen, we can narrow the suspects down to 30+ year olds, as 99% of these snowflakes cant count to 6 or 7 speeds, let alone row the gears in a manual one. 😂😂. Bring on the BAN and upset people.. i collect your tears and store them in my pillowcase nightly. Thank god for ford keeping the v8s alive. Dodge got neutered and chevy got abandoned. I suppose its only right the company that started it all keeps the v8s alive the longest. Yeah im rambling. Yeah im an "old head"...but god bless the v8s and manuals and the hybrid, electric wonders can all SUCK A FAT ONE.
I’ve never been much into the whole “brand loyalty” bs. There’s good and bad in all manufacturers.
Awesome.
This wasn't that long ago, well seems like it, haha. I used to do this every weekend with my 69 SS Camaro. It's about impossible to see lower times in these cars on street tires. None of them hook up and spin a lot.
Very true… and you really don’t get much cooler than the ‘69 Camaro Super Sport 🏆
O N A 75inch SCREEN IS THE BEST.
Dam there's a lot of 5.0 mustangs and I only saw 1 Camaro from that 80's era
Good night 😊
This is why the 5.0 vs 3.8 turbo battle was started
And if you had a STRONG running high HP classic Musclecar, you would stomp the little "Litre" cars nicely. But most driver - grade muscle was 15 second-ish car.
back in the day ford toyed with turboing the 5.0 but choose the 2.3 instead. had ford turboed the 5.0 the grand national would have been nothing
@@kennethjaeger1047 lol the gn was detained at the factory north of 400hp before going on the market.
@@MrBlackbutang and now alot of turbo 5.0s
are up over 450 hp and alot lighter
@@kennethjaeger1047 both cars turbo’d 600 hp gn would still win bet you can’t figure that one out . We did several test .
I saw no BOSS 351 run. I drove one that turned 13.6 @ 110 m.p.h. and could also get rubber in all 4 gears in street tires.
@@operationoverloard the Boss 351 was a strong runner. I’ve seen them run mid-high 13s off the dealer lot!
I just watched a half hour long commercial for the Grand Am
Grand Am is SCCA sanctioned road racing lol
@@nedaCFilms Pontiac Grand National I meant. 😁
@@drunvert Buick 😉
@@drunvert although the Grand Am was a Pontiac 😉
@@nedaCFilms ha, whatever. I'm a Chevy guy
OMG.....some of these Grand National drivers hitting mid 15's? Then others running the low 13's like they were easily
capable of....such a difference the driver makes.
The slower running cars were not being 'break boosted' at the line. Makes a HUGE difference in 1/4 mile performance.....
@@ct87gn25 yes, no kidding.
I have owned 11 over the years. And NOT brake boosting a turbo car for launch is ridiculous.
Especially on a stock converter with a pure stock tune.
@@ct87gn25you are exactly right. Some of the GN owners didn’t yet know or understand how to come out of the hole with boost. They would just stab the gas. The fellas that learned how to brake boost made Grand National a legend.
This is cool 👍
It's amazing how slow the TransAm's were
They are concours class show cars. There’s other #MuscleCarTimeMachine vids on the channel with a 1968 Firebird RamAir II smoking everything lol.
Went from beech bend too great lakes dragway, I was at beech for that race
That GNX was taking names
@@theunderworld1163 crazy thing is that these were just GN models, no GNX models competed in this, which the GNXs were even faster than the regular GNs lol.
Love these videos! Thank you!
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Lots of wheel spin on the earlier cars. If you can't get it to the ground...
The Buick Grand Nationals kicked ass!
Hell ye on the 69 trans am woooooo hoooooo!!!!!!!!
A pure stock 1986 GN running 13.1 is hilarious!🤣
There was two different classes running, concours which is 100% showroom factory stock and pure stock, which we know isn’t actually showroom stock, but stock, ish lol
a good set of rear tires & a nice break boost off the line is just about all you need to show a low/mid13s run.. family owned car lots for 40+yrs.. they run great if you know how to drive them.. not like a Iroc, Gt, Gta or vette.. you don’t just hold the break & Tromp them on Green!
@@scarface9617 Yeah right, 235 HP and 330 lbs/ft and low 13s.
@@justme307 my ‘87 gn run a 13.4.. lots of folks don’t understand how to break boost a turbo charged vehicle & what a Difference it makes.. like putting a short throw shifter, gear & subframe connectors on a foxbody.. makes them a whole different ride!
First time I ever seen a Mustang outrun a Trans Am