4 Conditions for an Artwork To Be Contemporary (& Why Artists Need To Know Them)
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- In today’s day and age, one might feel as if ‘anything goes’ in art. So, how can we define what makes an artwork contemporary? In what way does it distinguish itself from Modern Art? What conditions are essential to consider an artwork as contemporary? Read the complete article here: www.contemporaryartissue.com/...
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Table of contents:
00:00 - Introduction
00:20 - Why Not All Art Today Is Contemporary
01:44 - Condition 1: The Time or Era of the Artwork
03:39 - Condition 2: The Intention of the Artist
05:27 - Condition 3: Time-Bound Aesthetics
06:58 - Condition 4: Contemporary Relevant Subject Matter
07:42 - Round-Up
08:10 - Outro
Hello dear readers and subscribers, I had a cold while recording this video so hopefully my voice does not sound like Janice from Friends too much. What are your thoughts on these four conditions and how do you situate Contemporary Art historically? Chat soon! All my best, Julien
Your speaking was fine - completely understandable. The third and fourth issue explained a lot that I have never understood properly - I thought contemporary, was ... art simply being made now and i didnt understand certain art never being included in contemporary exhibitions.
Hope you're feeling better! Thanks for your generosity in making these videos, even when you're feeling poorly. All the best
@@wendyte5041 Thank you! It is indeed a bit more tricky, happy this video was able to clarify a thing or two. Have a great day!
@@MsRedjay The peasure is all mine, big thanks!
Feed the cold take vit c and steam yes sure at this point you needed rest but look at you you are still advising that's good sure u are a little under the weather also atleadt you have ur puppy the lab to be with ur voice is fine infact it gives a little depth I am highly grateful that u are showing me how to go about art😊
I dont think can resist- "Double-plus good quack speaker" comes to mind
The part at the beginning where you explain with total sincerity that a reproduction of an old master etching or the finger painting made by a toddler are not "contemporary art" set the tone for the entire video 😄. Thanks for clearing that up for us!
Thank you for tuning! 🙏🙌
One of the most interesting videos you have made. Thank you!
Thank you very much!
Wonderful as all your videos very helpful and important issue that always occupied my mind I found many answer here! Many thanks
Your videos, and the books and references you have recommended, have helped my art practice more than any single source, and I am deeply appreciative of you and your work. If you are an ancient Savoy we may well be cousins.
These days, I mostly do painting, and AI art and video...and want to get more into collage. Vitamin C will be coming my way soon, if I have my way. The dozen other books are a treasure and a joy. Love to hear your view of some collage and AI art. db
Hi there, the pleasure is all mine! Vitamin C is another great publication. Feel free to read our article on the top 25 collage artists as well. Wishing you all the best and stay in touch!
This made me think of music. You have decades (the 60's, the 70's) and genres (rock, pop, disco). Music that was recorded during the decade was of the decade but it also changed as time went on. The music of 1970 was very different from 1979, for instance. Disco music can still be written and recorded today and if you were not familiar with the music and artists from the 1970's, you would not know whether it was from back then or now. Love the videos. Very informative. (As an aside, the two painting of the girls on the gallery wall made me think of the Mona Lisa (?) at the beginning of your "Why Your Art is Bad" video.)
Very informative, as always! :)
The pleasure is all mine 🙌
Thank you for making this video. Its been awhile since I’ve been in art school in London, and American art speak is slightly different, then with so many self taught figurative artists on the scene who seem averse to even the faintest whiff of modernism, it’s good to clarify. I have no problem understanding you and I have been enjoying all your videos. Surprised to hear only two abstract artists in the top ten, wow. Intention, as you say, is all.
Excellent job, wonderful dog.
Nice video. Clear, concise and accurate. I mostly agree on all 4 criterias, but I would argue a 5th: institutional/market acknowledgment. Which act as a external criteria in the matter that it doesn't rely on any historical/canonical or personal argument per se. Anyhow, in any case its all fiction.
Absolutely spot on! Thank you for sharing. Have a great day!
Life is Art. Everything in life is a work of art, people just don’t recognize it as such. The clouds in the sky, the moon and the sun? Works of art that are always around without intending to be a work of art. Cave art is priceless but when it was made it probably wasn’t intended as work of art but maybe a warning or rules etc. intending to be a work of art is meaningless in grand scheme of things
Great comment! Life is art-love it. Have a great day
No! art is specifically made by humans! Everything in life can be used to become art. Though nature is often much more impressive than any artwork.
@@Kapojos what about bird nests? What about when some sea creatures create impressions in the sand to impress partners? The sun burning tons of energy every second as we orbit it and feeling the warmth on our skin. Best conceptual art ever
Interesting topic, as always. Thanks!
The link to the article was poorly copied/pasted or seems to have been hacked.
However, I managed to access the article on your website.
You are right! Thanks for letting me know, I have changed the URL and everything work fine now. Big thanks!!
Hi. 🙂. I don't know how much I agree with you. I would like to hear your thoughts on the "eras" since WWII to today. I have my own thoughts on the matter amd they seem to diverge a good bit from what's expressed in this video. 🤟
Hi there, a great video topic! We are working on a complete overview of art movements from the early days of Modern Art up to today. So feel free to stay tuned! Have a great day
I raise my glass to the Tomb of the unknown Artist 👩🎨
I Think you talk with a clear and fine voice and I like the subjects you diverse into. For me it all depends on how you think and reflect and definere Art - what is Art? Many definitions coexist , and for me I think that one important. criteria is “ art comes from Movement - and it moves you” art is alive as Long as Living beings Express what moves Them - and “Old Art”+ in a Way can fullfill to move a person Living now … and it opens the eternal Now. 🎵🙃🎶❤️🧡💛💚💙💜🎶
Excellent video. I might add that "contemporary art" post-1990's are less regional that most movements prior to then. The information age has in many ways eroded those boundaries. Much of contemporary art could be easily made in France, Mexico, the US, or Australia with very few know or needing to know its country of origins. The exceptions being identity based artworks, but those are I believe in response to the erosion of those boundaries.
Great point. The art world has globalized and so has art. There sometimes some local trends or preferences in the market, but you are absolutely right! Thank you for tuning in and for sharing this 🙌
The era of contemporary Art has passed, the present Art is highly influenced by Technologies And the coming times will be more influenced by Technologies Thank you! For such an important analysis, thank you!
Are technologies perceived as contemporary?
Technology and art have always been intertwined, and artist always made good use of it. Think of the use of the camera obscura in baroque, the use of photography since the 60s, followed by the projector, photoshop, and more recently AI. Thank you for tuning in
Painting is dead, you say?
@@jenl2530no is not. Paint( oil, acrylic , tempera, watercolor etc ...) is still used a lot by many contemporary artists and it will be used forever.
Looking forward to watching this
Thanks, see you soon for the premiere 👀
Thanks for making this video
The pleasure is all mine, thank you for tuning in!
Than you for your explanation, could you give information about George Orwel's quote? In which book he wrote this and if it is possible could you share link of the book? Thank you again this simple yet deep explanation.
All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others. Roughly. From Animal Farm. Though the content of the video shows that the full meaning of Orwell’s phrase was not understood very well.
@user-sf3oj3zf8l It's a reference to Orwell's Animal Farm, where they wanted to create a farm where all animals are equal, but in the end this idea was a utopia. A true classic!
Thank you again for your sensitivity about answering, I thought it was a direct quote from one of his book that is way I asked. You made a meaningful analogy. All the best @@contemporaryartissue
The dog is thinking "This guy likes definitions" .
Spot on 😂
Can youmake a video about mediums? For example, watercolors and guache have a cheap reputation. And what about digital art printed or glued on analogue canvas? Can you make some examples? Thank you! I love your channel
👌🏼💯 as always 💪🏼🙌🏼
Big thanks! Have a great day
I think modern art is first about subject. I don not tnink about mself as a contemporary artist, because I paint religious still lifes in oils.
Here a list provided bu Saatchi Art, contemporary art can be narrowed down into :
Accessibility and advocacy for persons with disabilities
Animal Rights and Protections
Black Identity, Culture, and Activism
Body Image and Self Esteem
Conflict and Adversity
Cultural Diversity
Environmentalism, Sustainability, and Climate Issues
Freedom and Social Change
Health and Wellness
Historical Subjects
Heroes and Leaders
Identity
Immigration and Migration
Indigenous identity, culture, and activism
Latinx
LGBTQIA+
Masculinity
Mental Health
Politics and Activism
Refugee Advocacy
Spirituality and Meditation
Women's Issues
Hi there, I don't believe the subject matter is necessarily superior to the process and technique-however, the medium (process) can also be the message (subject). Of course, religious still life painting, especially when rendered in a traditional technique, is less contemporary than other works because it only applies to two of the four conditions we've discussed. However, if you enjoy it, you should continue to go for it!
Eagerly awaiting the ultra ultra contemporary period.
Hi! Who is the artist who did the Black & White large work with comp? Thank you.
I believe you are referring to the work of Rinus Van de Velde-one of my personal favorites!
@@contemporaryartissue Thank you ! (I meant "computers" not "comp", sorry !).
I’m sure this video is interesting and helpful for lots of people, but I don’t recommend artists see it. We don’t do well with being told what attributes of our art satisfies which requirements to be considered whatever. We will always attempt transgressing the boundaries which are set up in this way. I understand this is a serious attempt to elucidate the messiness of contemporary art, but let’s not work on maintaining borders just yet. I believe we are on the cusp of a great change in art which will make these delineations look small and miserly. I will be interested to see how generations in the future look at the art of our times. It may be vastly different than this ‘more of the same’ approach to what is happening now.
I’d like to thank you for always giving us thought provoking perspectives on contemporary art issues… especially when they seed the clouds of debate.
It's impossible to stay focused when there's such a good boy hiding right behind your back 😂
Exactly 😂
Contemporary for that time that era. Also style and materials.
Absolutely!
Also, using tools or materials that are only recently available now.
Not sure if is it a worldwide situation, but in Taiwan, I sense that the way to be included in the category of contemporary art is completely different from others and shows no relation or connections to any past artist.
Simply, you must be "new" enough to be part of them. Otherwise, no matter how good you are in your field, you are still not a contemporary artist.
Interesting, thank you for sharing!
when you add the word successful you imply that the artist will sell alot and be well known by the world..... success in that way is more about politics ,who you know, or meet, your connections or your luck, being in the right place or right time....there are millions of great artists in the world but only a fraction of them achieve this type of success......if the only art you enjoy is the art that is popular and well advertised you are cheating your self out of some of the best art in your life time. open your mind. dig deeper in your quest to find great art and except those artists and there works who may not be publicly praised .
There are numerous ways of being successful as an artist, and there are numerous ways to achieve those different types of success (as we most recently discussed when talking about different career paths). Networking can indeed be very important, we reducing every single successful artist’s achievement to luck or his or her network is not fair. In the end, enjoy the art you enjoy most, without decrying anyone else. Have a great day and thank you for tuning in!
“Oh my, so much is wrong in that video.”
~Contemporary Artist
Feel free to expand on what's wrong :-) - Fellow contemporary artist
Contemporary art is the artwork of today before its gets categorized by history.
I like it! But what about ongoing art movements that are already being categorized and canonized?
@@contemporaryartissue they are still contemporary. something can be 2 or more things at the same time.
Как и любой другой философский вопрос🤔🧐 , этот вопрос является закорючкой (❓), которая не подлежит выпрямлению 🤔(то есть не может стать утвердительной прямой (❗) - ( на случай сложности перевода)🤗
Got it! 😅 But I do love a sophistical debate in art 😁
@@contemporaryartissue да, это заметно🧐🤗👍
We should remember r g Collingwood dictum. "all history is modern history". Most "contemporary art is reactionary consumer dumning down determined by middle class woke clichés.
Vaughan Williams's wonderful advice to young composers " always have the courage to be ordinary "
Next we will have ultra-ultra-contemporary art, ha! Ultimately, art history teaches that there are two kinds of art: good and bad. The good is that which tends to survive, the bad become period pieces, which may yet possess merit but lack the spark, or shock, of human recognition - compare the saccharine Lancret to the genuinely melancholy and poetic Watteau. However, the issues brought up here are considered, broad, reasonably non-prescriptive and germane to art now.
Thank you for tuning in and sharing your thoughts here; I appreciate it!
Do whatever want to create and give a flying fuck what people think about it. Communication ends on the part of the creator when she/he puts down the tools.
Wish that it were so. I think todays successful artist probably needs to have brilliant social skills and a nose for savvy marketing.
Conditions to be a contemporary artist :
1. the most important one. Have NO talent, if you have talent and skill please refrain yourself to go into the contemporary bubble, you´re not only not welcome there but you won´t like it either, this is the cult of mediocrity and people will freak out if you can draw great or have knowledge of color.
2. Be ready to do some sex favors, won´t happen to everyone, but well if you fulfilled condition 1 and are somewhat handsome/pretty, you probably will end up giving sex in exchange of favors in the art world.
3. Be a poser, play along the ideology that governs the art world and its values, never try to go against the current, both politically and aesthetically, the contemporary art bubble is a micro world where everyone wants to be so original, that everyone ends up doing the same. Be docile and submit yourself to authorities in the field.
4. Since you need NO talent at all, focus all your efforts in making contacts, selling yourself, and giving long explanations (using artspeak) about how the piece of garbage you made somehow is great art.
Sooner or later you´ll realize this is all a fraud and you´ll just have to play along.
If you don't like contemporary art, perhaps this is not the channel for you. In art, there is enough for anyone. Enjoy what you enjoy most without decrying others. There IS talent in contemporary art. You don't have to do some sex favors. You can be your genuine self. You don't have to focus on selling yourself.
@@contemporaryartissue I will say whatever I want to say thanks. Contemporary art is a FRAUD and I will say it LOUD. Ban me if you don´t like it. I´m glad there´s the internet and the elites don´t control the narrative anymore, now people who really love art can express their opinions.
So far I haven´t seen a single example of talent, would love to see one, I love art from the caves of Lascaux until some abstract (most abstract is crap but there´s a few good ones) conceptual on the opposite is an anomaly, a fraud commited by pseudo intellectuals who need to justify in words what would be impossible even to see as art, the works themselves can´t stand on their own and they need fake ideologues to sell them, because no one in their right mind would even consider than as art. FAILS as visual art simply because it doesn´t enter through your eyes but through some ass cheap explanations that are as worthy as fecal matter, actually fecal matter has been sold as art, that´s how bad conceptual/contemporary art is. Cringy and poser.
IF you need to put your work in the sacrosanct space of a museum to be called art, then is not art, if you need to resort to any explanation or theories to "get it" then is not art. I could even accept that contemporary art is (cheap) philosophy, but art never, and conceptual "artists" have to recognize that there´s not a consensus that they´e stuff is art, in their heads, in their bubble maybe, but in the real world, from the simple person, to the real intelligent, there´s a lack of respect to what they do, and a huge doubt and lack of understanding from the more humble, which I am not, I have my eyes closed and I am telling you here, what you stand for is a fraud, and if it was for me, I would give a shovel to everyone of you fake posers, to work the land SO you know how food is earned damn it, since you´re allergic to work.
Here´s an example of MANY that denounces your fraud, go to work, learn to draw, mediocre mind:
www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/may/27/pair-of-glasses-left-on-us-gallery-floor-mistaken-for-art
Everybody wants to explaine ultra-contemporary art and to convice us that is art! For us, the majority of paintings or instalations ( conceptualism) is understandable and ugly! But the critics say “this is art”!
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Do I have to make bold loud angry strokes paintings to look contemporary???
Not necessarily. Feel free to stay tuned!
This is all divisive bull. Any art being done at the Present is Contemporary. All practicing Artists in the Present are Contemporaries. Been doing Art for 40 odd years and the methods of gatekeeping never changes. e.g that Etching that was used in illustration, if done today by an artist skilled at Drawing, it would be in the Realm of Contemporary Art.
The video discusses how the term contemporary can have a different meaning-contemporary as in today, contemporary as in fresh/new/innovative, or ultra-contemporary in the sense of multidisciplinary contemporary art practices today. So nothing divisive.
ate we not talking about the good boi at the back?
We should!!! ❤️🐶
Art is produced to serve a market. The primary purchasers and therefor influencers of art in our age are Corporate entities and that market has a preference for abstract art which is therefor fashionable. Plutocrats mostly purchase contemporary art as an investment but it does not follow that what they are sold is either meaningful or good. The art of any age is only as cultured as its patrons.
Perhaps at the top end of the market-and I am not entirely sure if today's art world favors abstract art over other art forms; in the current top 20 artists worldwide, we only encounter two abstract artists who are actually also creating other figurative work; Yayoi Kusama and Gerhard Richter. Don't forget the majority (in volume, not in value) of the collectors are private, upper middle class to high class people instead of corporate collectors.
File under: how to tell us that you don’t like abstract art without telling us that you don’t like abstract art. 😅
Well, that’s been incorrect for at least 200 years now. And probably much, much longer.
Oh my God yes
Figurative has actually made a comeback. And is usually the safer bet when collectors take consideration of newer artists, just take a look at the latest art fairs for example
If artist have wealthy friends a contemporary lifestyle is predictable
да да
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4:11 When the janitor can not distinguish your art piece from a piece of rubbish that needs to be tossed in the bin, maybe it's time to rethink your "craft"... Seriously funny.
All art made today is contemporary.
El arte contemporáneo es inseparable del orden de la globalización del capitalismo anglosajón al finalizar la guerra fría. Es, pues, una imposición política de ese orden frente a otros como el realismo socialista soviético y chino, el arte mural mexicano, las expresiones populares, etc. Por lo tanto representa fielmente sus valores: fundamentalismo democrático, multiculturalismo, estética disidente políticamente impotente, moral woke, etc. ¿Cómo ser un artista contemporáneo? acata los valores del imperialismo anglosajón.
No, no queremos ser contemporáneos a la manera gringa. Queremos destruir ese orden político, económico y estético.
Interesting comment! I’d love to hear more of your thoughts on this. Sorry…I only read English 😢
@@mmjconlon Hola, disculpa, mi inglés no es bueno y solo escribo fluidamente en español :) . Habrá que confiar en el traductor automático.
Básicamente, creo que el arte es político, no por sus temas o intenciones, sino porque es creado en sociedades políticas con relaciones de poder internas y externas. A través de imperios es como religiones, mitos e ideologías se extienden por el mundo: el catolicismo barroco a través del Imperio Español, la cultura grecolatina a través de Roma, y la globalización anglosajona a través de Estados Unidos, por ejemplo.
El arte contemporáneo existe por la red del mercado global, es inseparable de la teoría producida en Estados Unidos y Europa (aun el enfoque decolonial se exporta de ahí) y los temas, discusiones y valores que reproducen los espacios que se definen como "arte contemporáneo" están alineados a ese mismo orden político. Por eso suelen ser redundantes las muestras de arte contemporáneo aunque se hagan en lugares muy distantes, al igual que los templos romanos eran similares en la Galia, Asía Menor o Libia.
I can do it each morning in the toilet.
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Uuggghh! You do not have a voice for video. It was hard to complete this video.
Sorry, but I am afraid I cannot change my voice-it's just how I talk 🫢
"Good Day Gender Neutrals, We are now departing the ultra-ultra art movement . Consult your financial planner for further information.
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post-postmodern = post-theory
Not necessarily, but less lineair theory I guess!
@@contemporaryartissue Maybe you can speak more on that. I can hardly imagine alternatives to postmodernism that aren't post-theory - unless you get into Zen Buddhism maybe.
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Thank you!
I don't understand your use of the word pretext in this context. A pretext is something like an excuse or fake reason, where you falsely claim to be motivated by something while you are actually motivated by something else.
Yes, I believe my native language (Dutch) caused me to express my message wrongly-instead of a pretext, the first two conditions are necessary/essential for the artwork to be seen as contemporary. Thank you for tuning in!
pretext- a reason given in justification of a course of action that is not the real reason.
Contemporary isn’t an era as is modern
Yet, it is being used in the same sense-almost interchangeable with the terms postmodern art and postwar art. Thank you for tuning in
Might be an interesting episode to clarify the word Contemporary and it’s misuse?@@contemporaryartissue
Contemporary = Con + Temporary
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accent is too strong
My apologies! The British accent or my native Dutch accent that I am trying to hide unsuccessfully?
Skarface needs to get out more
Repetitive nonsense. If you are inclined, just get to work.
What makes an artwork contemporary?
Answer: 1) Uglyness
2) Meaningless
3) Pretedents a real art but actually a money tramp
4) The more is stupid, rubbish the more be a "valuable" in terms of $
Therefore, the so-called art in question is just a scam.
What makes contemporary art..? BS!
DEPRESSiVE, UGLY, NIGHTMARISH ...?
superficial BS
The real question is; Why place so much importance on this term?
It's only useful when you're trying to explain that 2 artists lived and made their works in the same era. But other than that, what does it matter? I understand there are trends in fashion that come and go, bound to the times. Still, I see art as something timeless.
Many people would use the term contemporary art to argue that the more classical art that others enjoy is "out of fashion" and to "get with the times" and appreciate contemporary ary instead. It is often used by modern art enthusiasts to make the passive agressive implication that older styles of art are somehow outdated and square. When people have this "NeW GoOd. oLd BaD" mentality about art, they're treating art as if it's the same shallow, infatuation based hype phenomenon as clothing fashion is. Spoiler Alert: It's not.
Art is a way of expressing feelings and ideas and the various styles that have been used to that effect throughhout history are just the many different tools for such expressions. Hyper stylised Maya art is good for certain types of expressions. They're playful, bold, wild, yet orderly and disciplined. Hyper realism and impressionism are better for other types of expressions. Dreamy, more abstract feelings, creates an air of mysticism, more calm & subdued.Keith Herring style art is yet better suited to other expressions. Those of the same playfulness and boldness of maya art, but much more chaotic and anarchistic, somehow more primitive and childlike and less agressive and morbid.
Perhaps, if you have only a very narrow range of feelings, you can only appreciate very few art styles from a very specific period, but if you have a wide range of feelings, you're going to appreciate many different art styles as ways to give expression to them all.
In most cases of people obsessed with only 1 type of art from 1 type of period, usually contemporary modern art, are not really inspired by deep feelings at all, but instead with their image and what type of art will be their shtick to add to their "personality" as a badge of honor.
Because I find it very hard to believe that people could really only appreciate 1 very specific style of art. That that's all they can feel and resonate with.
Some of my favorite art styles are many 1000nds of years old:
The stone carvings of warriors, kings, mythological man-beast figures like Lamassus as seen in ancient Sumeria, Persia, Akkadia and Assyria. Fantastic.
Graceful 7000 years ago, gracefull now.
These styles aren't fashions. These styles are timeless in that they continue to charm and uplift us. They continue to inspire awe.
The new “era” is the Meta-Modern . Not post post modern .
Post-postmodernism has various titles in the running; meta-modernism, post-millennialism, pseudo-modernism, digi-modernism, and so on, and they all have a slightly different angle to the era in question.
This content is so banal that the target is people who never studied art