I watched Mordian live on the wargameslive stream. I heard a familiar voice and jumped on the discord where the masses were gathering. Then the views from Wargames live just soared! The amount of o7 in the chat was unreal! It was a good game too. Well done Tim on your performance at Adepticon!
Lord inquisitor of the Ordo Xenos, I thought it prudent to update you on the incursion. The funny guard man has now gone first in the first game of a tournament twice. Our canary has gone silent.
This was a mistake which I covered in the Livestream! In the game I thought it was OC1 my bad, and an honest mistake. Thank the Emperor I lost the game so it didn't make a difference but I own the foul up and will make sure to get it right in going forward
I played a lot of sports at competitive levels. If teams left a tourney in the late games because they were losing, they'd never be allowed back. This practice in 40k is pathetic, and those players should be told that they cannot return for the next one.
Uh, no offense dude, but there is literally no sport in existence where you're expected to actually play for 12 hours in a single day. Also, beer league softball doesn't count as "competitive level." Maybe get off your high horse.
What sports? Ive competed international taekwondo and national boxing and have seen teams at country level forfeit and be let in again next year with no issues
Not a tournament player, but if the outcome is obvious, why not concede and give everyone a chance to recharge? Just asking as the unwritten rules are unknown to me
@@zombiesue1054 test cricket? Maybe not 12 hours but still a long time. But it depends on the context for me. If they’re a good sport and add value to the comp I’m ok with it. If they’re knobs I’m all for not seeing them at the next one
@@rjscorpion8892 A lot of tournaments do standings and tie breakers based on the number of total objective points players have, so it is still good to try and get points to improve your standings.
I feel like you are more likely to get suboptimal lists in America vs Europe because the models are more expensive and seem to be in lesser supply. Completing my sisters without an army box feels so difficult, and I know I'm not in the worse off faction by a long shot.
@Swarzyc "counts as" is fine as far as I am aware, golden rule is "can your opponent understand what this is at a glance from 2 feet away". I have only a vague idea of the different Inquisitors, but at a glance I can tell its his Inquisitor and not a custodes so it's all good :)
One question concerning the second game against Custodes -> How can you score Capture Enemy Outpost or Primary Points with the Cyclops Demlition Vehicle that has no OC? Do i miss something?
I totally understand making terrain thick to make the game more interesting, and to give armies a chance to survive pure shooting armies. But if WTC terrain is so thick that you can't move a Baneblade out of deployment, I think they are taking things a bit too far.
how does wysiwyg wortk with troop types? Even if I use cadian bodies, as long as they have the 2 flamers and chainsword for the sergeant are they okay as catachans?
So just a question adepticon didn't have an issue with you using cadians as catachans as I have done same but a few words where mentioned with in my local group as I didn't take special weapons as I didn't have any and a guy said why don't you just proxy it you proxied cadians as kreig lol there was no mallace in it but just made me think if I could get away with it
I prefer fixed terrain because to me, placing terrain isn't part of the game and player placed can greatly sway a game, effectively undermining the playing skill of the players. Also it allows for faster games, knowing where the terrain goes rather than having the back and forth of player placed terrain.
Did you play incurson? Because i cannot build a list of custodes described in game 3... 6 bloobs of banana boiz with 2 tanks kyria and caliduss with supporting characters comes at around 2400 points..
They’re only battleshocked until the beginning of their own next command phase. So by the time they score an objective they’re good unless they’re under 50% and fail their test. I haven’t gotten far in the video yet but if their OC is keeping the opponent from claiming an objective on the opponents turn then that’s a misplay.
If you’re talking about the Area Denial the orks failed to score, the mission doesn’t deal with OC, it’s just “do you have a unit within 6 of the center? Does your opponent?”
Nah, its kinda a unwritten rule that hunter killers are basically tokens at this point because so many tanks from so many armies can take them, yet no one has modelled them on their tanks because they are one shot and have been rubbish forever. They have only just become relevant in 10th with free wargear but in 11th they might go back to being rubbish and no one wants to start having to rip them off their models 😅
If you're talking about Game 4, this is a really common misconception with guard. Take Aim gives +1 BS, not a +1 modifier to hit, so you can effectively be +2 to hit because you're just +1 on top of an improved BS. Other than that, max total modifier can be +1, so e.g. heavy plus scout sentinel minus indirect can net +1 to hit. In this example, he has heavy and is firing directly so is just at +1, but is at +1 to BS 3+ because of Take Aim.
as someone that has played IG before 8th edition, I get a bit sick with how the vehicles are placed on some pictures. I guess current 40k is too gamey for me.
I watched Mordian live on the wargameslive stream. I heard a familiar voice and jumped on the discord where the masses were gathering. Then the views from Wargames live just soared! The amount of o7 in the chat was unreal! It was a good game too. Well done Tim on your performance at Adepticon!
Lord inquisitor of the Ordo Xenos, I thought it prudent to update you on the incursion. The funny guard man has now gone first in the first game of a tournament twice. Our canary has gone silent.
I'll be at adepticon next year my friend runs a booth. Glad you enjoyed your time in the states
Ive been hyped for this video 🙌
Hard Same
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For the emperor
But how Cyclops captured enemy outpost if it's OC 0? 🤔
This was a mistake which I covered in the Livestream! In the game I thought it was OC1 my bad, and an honest mistake. Thank the Emperor I lost the game so it didn't make a difference but I own the foul up and will make sure to get it right in going forward
@@MordianGlorySTRAIGHT TO THE PENAL LEGION!!
It's the main reason why I think commissars are a better choice
I played a lot of sports at competitive levels. If teams left a tourney in the late games because they were losing, they'd never be allowed back. This practice in 40k is pathetic, and those players should be told that they cannot return for the next one.
Uh, no offense dude, but there is literally no sport in existence where you're expected to actually play for 12 hours in a single day.
Also, beer league softball doesn't count as "competitive level." Maybe get off your high horse.
What sports? Ive competed international taekwondo and national boxing and have seen teams at country level forfeit and be let in again next year with no issues
Not a tournament player, but if the outcome is obvious, why not concede and give everyone a chance to recharge? Just asking as the unwritten rules are unknown to me
@@zombiesue1054 test cricket? Maybe not 12 hours but still a long time. But it depends on the context for me. If they’re a good sport and add value to the comp I’m ok with it. If they’re knobs I’m all for not seeing them at the next one
@@rjscorpion8892 A lot of tournaments do standings and tie breakers based on the number of total objective points players have, so it is still good to try and get points to improve your standings.
*cough cough* cyclops are OC 0 *cough*
When you fire with your Exterminator, do you ever go full Dalek and yell, “EXTERMINATE!” ?
No, but I absolutely will going forward xD
Good morning!
Well done, great result and very informative breakdown. Thanks MG
I feel like you are more likely to get suboptimal lists in America vs Europe because the models are more expensive and seem to be in lesser supply. Completing my sisters without an army box feels so difficult, and I know I'm not in the worse off faction by a long shot.
Well done ,amazing result and well deserved. Great tactical advise too.
I loved watching the second game live! Great stuff, as usual!
I couldn't find the link & timestamp in the description for your part in the livestream. Am I just blind?
I like that you don't gloat
I'm really keen to see a list WITHOUT the luggage and other restrictions.
What turret is that on the steal Legion russ? The chunky turret is very cool
That's a Kromlech turret with heavy stubber, the Vanquisher-equivalent one.
Hey Mordian where did you get or what bits did you use to make your heavy stubber on your Leman russ battle tank? The one that is on top of the hatch.
I thought we were doing horde armies Mordian!
55:25 the model is Inquisitor Greyfax, not Draxus
Greyfax model, but was using Draxus rules
@@MordianGlory isn't it against event rules, that you mentioned earlier?
@Swarzyc "counts as" is fine as far as I am aware, golden rule is "can your opponent understand what this is at a glance from 2 feet away". I have only a vague idea of the different Inquisitors, but at a glance I can tell its his Inquisitor and not a custodes so it's all good :)
One question concerning the second game against Custodes -> How can you score Capture Enemy Outpost or Primary Points with the Cyclops Demlition Vehicle that has no OC? Do i miss something?
He messed up and addressed it when he covered the games on livestream
@@andosan5995 thanks for the quick response
Love the content!
I totally understand making terrain thick to make the game more interesting, and to give armies a chance to survive pure shooting armies. But if WTC terrain is so thick that you can't move a Baneblade out of deployment, I think they are taking things a bit too far.
how does wysiwyg wortk with troop types? Even if I use cadian bodies, as long as they have the 2 flamers and chainsword for the sergeant are they okay as catachans?
So just a question adepticon didn't have an issue with you using cadians as catachans as I have done same but a few words where mentioned with in my local group as I didn't take special weapons as I didn't have any and a guy said why don't you just proxy it you proxied cadians as kreig lol there was no mallace in it but just made me think if I could get away with it
Never had any issues with it personally :)
I prefer fixed terrain because to me, placing terrain isn't part of the game and player placed can greatly sway a game, effectively undermining the playing skill of the players. Also it allows for faster games, knowing where the terrain goes rather than having the back and forth of player placed terrain.
So, where is the link to the live stream you where on?
Did you play incurson? Because i cannot build a list of custodes described in game 3... 6 bloobs of banana boiz with 2 tanks kyria and caliduss with supporting characters comes at around 2400 points..
Maybe it was only 4 blobs of Custodes, but I seemed like more!
These are my favourite MG videos
Anyone have the custodes list from this game, I'm trying to make it work based on what mordian is saying but its not working.
I’m confused. When units disembark from a destroyed transport, are they not battle shocked? How are you still holding objectives?
They’re only battleshocked until the beginning of their own next command phase. So by the time they score an objective they’re good unless they’re under 50% and fail their test. I haven’t gotten far in the video yet but if their OC is keeping the opponent from claiming an objective on the opponents turn then that’s a misplay.
What’s with the choppa by my name?
If you’re talking about the Area Denial the orks failed to score, the mission doesn’t deal with OC, it’s just “do you have a unit within 6 of the center? Does your opponent?”
Cyclops is oc0 how did you take an objective with it
Do we recommend the exterminator against death guard?
Nice
yo can i get the link and timestamp for that livestream game you mentioned
Sounds like you have lots better luck for first turn across the pond. Maybe if you told people you were American, you would get first turn more often
i am not sure but did you made a video about a good dkok army?
3 weeks late, but yeah, he made another after action report with a krieg army
Do you have a Lord Solar?
I will get rowdy down here and you can't stop me! :p
Did it matter that none of your tanks were modelled without HKs despite you using them in your games?
Nah, its kinda a unwritten rule that hunter killers are basically tokens at this point because so many tanks from so many armies can take them, yet no one has modelled them on their tanks because they are one shot and have been rubbish forever. They have only just become relevant in 10th with free wargear but in 11th they might go back to being rubbish and no one wants to start having to rip them off their models 😅
Hit rolls cant be modified more than +1/-1 from the base stat
If you're talking about Game 4, this is a really common misconception with guard. Take Aim gives +1 BS, not a +1 modifier to hit, so you can effectively be +2 to hit because you're just +1 on top of an improved BS.
Other than that, max total modifier can be +1, so e.g. heavy plus scout sentinel minus indirect can net +1 to hit. In this example, he has heavy and is firing directly so is just at +1, but is at +1 to BS 3+ because of Take Aim.
@@DreasEst Ah thank you, that I was not aware of
Buenos dias
as someone that has played IG before 8th edition, I get a bit sick with how the vehicles are placed on some pictures. I guess current 40k is too gamey for me.
How did it used to be then?
@@Jan_Iedemayou had to be pointing at what you’re shooting and having your side or rear pointing at the enemy made you more vulnerable.
Nobodys stopping you playing 8th my dude
Doesn't say undefeated, looking for the losses.