99.99999997% of all Muslims have Never Seen This [Dr. James White]
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- Опубліковано 9 гру 2015
- Clip taken from "Dr. James White - Islam A-Z (1/2)": • Video
Dr. James White mentioned that he did not have time to go through the transmission of the New Testament, so here is a video of his explanation:
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The number of dislikes and the amount bof comments of Muslims in here totally proved that , the precious video has reached the expected audience..😁
Muslims can give it but can't take it lol
@@Craig-gq4gb we do take it ask a women
There is no GOD but YEHOVAH and Yeshua is His Salvation !
😂 😂 "99.99999"... You wish!
We know the history bro. It is not anything hidden or mysterious. You can easily Google it and find details and sources to that effect.
That being said;
1. He failed to mention why anyone would want to change the message during compilation instead of writing the original message. What did Uthman stand to gain?
(We all know what the Roman's stood to gain by distorting the original message of Jesus... They persecuted him in the first place)
2. You people seem to ignore the fact that all his sources are prominent Islamic scholars(Bukhari, etc). If the compilation were sooo problematic, why didn't they leave Islam for Christianity or any other religion afterwards?
It always amazes me when a Christian finds some common knowledge to preach to his listeners as "novel, mysterious, blah blah blah" 😂
3. Why would 99.99999% of the living scholars agree to burn what they if the message had been "distorted" or "lost" like this man claims?
4. As for the variations in recitation, the Qur'an was revealed in Arabic and the Bedouins at that time had 7 dialects. Hence the slight variations in pronunciations of some words (still same meaning by the way). FYI: The Qur'an is still recited in those dialects even till TODAY! (Guess he didn't know that).
Let me know if you have other concerns regarding this common knowledge that he claims to be "novel" 😂 😂
@@abdallahoftexas7042 wht??
Those who think religion has nothing to do with politics do not know what religion is. - Gandhi
Angra Mainyu
just simple phrase for you and OTHERS.
DON'T LET EMOTION DO JUDGEMENT
William Gottschalk ń
those who think religion has nothing to do with politics you have to read about #ottoman_empire
lol i checked already it bb he said i dont know so i get that point.
and the other side who said khadijah n her uncle were devout catholics hahaha oky if that is your opinion i am cool but you have to find more good luck
William Gottschalk do u knw... gandhi was british agent... anti hindu muslim supporter...
Without lies, Islam dies.
Speak of your own religion,and stop obsessing over Islam,without lies Christianity dies and no l didn’t watch the video
@@nejlababali7901 Like how u dint watch the part in quran, where Muhammad married aisha and cost of apostacy is death. explains why u are muslim still
@@nejlababali7901Too scared of truth?
@@nejlababali7901 Watch the video.
There were still many memorizers left after the battle of YAMAMA . Hafsah 'Quran was checked and rechecked against the original memorizers and A new copy was written with the dialectical marks . This was to ensure that NON ARAB Muslims who did not know the Arabic language don't read the Quran wrongly and pass down the wrong recitation and meaning to the following generations. Don't forget that all the 4 caliphs were huffaz(memorizers of the Quran) from the time of the Prophet Muhammad till their own death. Furthermore the Quran was being memorized since the time of the Prophet till this day.. We have about 11 Million Quranic memorizers today conservatively. We also have several verified authentic manuscripts that date back to the time of the Prophet.
I also memorize my favorite fiction novels
Please point us to your earliest manuscript that matches your current Quran. There are non that date back to the time of your supposed prophet
Yea right, 11 million Muslims memorized an entire Quran.
Not even one person, could memorized an entire Quran.
You people claim the most atrocious & senseless things.
This is why Satan wants the mind, so Satan can confuse & deceive.
God wants our hearts to fill The Holy Spirit of God's Truth; so that we cannot be deceived.
Jesus Is The Truth, The Way & The Life.
Without The Holy Spirit dwelling in you; you cannot claim to be worshipping The Holy God of Heaven & Earth.
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That is what makes Islam itself a miracle.... I would advise you guys to go to any of the mosques during the month of Ramadan evening tarawih prayers and watch this miracle personally.... Are u afraid to go and see?? Go to any tahfiz school in any part of the world and see this miracle in practice by 9-year-olds....Maybe that will convince you
James white is being paid millions to distort. the truth of Islam, just like David Wood and other Islamophobes.... Just stop the money.. and see what he says..... Read Bart Erhman.... your own biblical scholars.... and what Karen Armstrong has to say on the Quran.... your own people.....
Top quality lecture. More like this, please!
He can't do more hahaha even this one you have to lie a lot to make it up
@@user-gg8lp5yr4ioh don't be tough
I was hindu from india i have seen jesus sitted in heaven all the angels worship him he lives in glorious light nothing is comparable to him in heaven and earth thank you jesus for saving my life from hellforever
Ok add Jesus now to your 3000000 plus Gods, what a party 🥳
What the fuck you mean with you saw jesus ?
@@yurimarkov1622 There is only one God and Jesus saved my life with a miracle, Jesus loves you too
😂😂😂 in your bible says no one can see god.. how come you saw jesus? So jesus is not God then.. 😂😂😂
@@MuhammadAbdillah111 Then you dont know the bible, read it all and it will make sense to you, because you dont know the trinity neither, and what you have just told me, that shows that you took 1 scripture out from the bible and you judge the whole bible by only 1 scripture, and many people do that and its a sin too so be aware, lot of people say lot of things against the bible from a not examined and not experienced and not known view point, and from a worldly view point, examine it first and it will make sense to you, thank you, God loves you!
Sir At 6:45 mins ....Sahih Bukhari which hadith it is ?? Page and number please ???.....I Wan to read it ..... so please help me by replying
Vol 6, chapter 61, verses 509 and 510
Sir 1st video mentioned in description is removed 😱 by the youtube, is there anyway for me to see that video?
If anyone knows plz let me know plz.🙏
When Jesus come again He will truly reveal Himself in whole Glory and His Almighty nature and everyone in the world will know Who He Is :)
I wish people could see my life I'm a Christian and have been born and raised with every religion, have followed gods commandments as set by moses and have lived a very happy prosperous (not money though) life in total unity. Its these simple things that just need to be adhered to that keep love flowing and growing
The message of the ten commandments was sent to the people of Israel at the time. The rules do not apply today. How do you know the commandments are the real commandments sent?
@@josephhayes535 cos it makes sense
@@josephhayes535The mistranslations are rife. They aren't even, "commandments.". The best translation is they are "utterances."
بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
قَالَ اللَّهُ هَٰذَا يَوْمُ يَنْفَعُ الصَّادِقِينَ صِدْقُهُمْ ۚ لَهُمْ جَنَّاتٌ تَجْرِي مِنْ تَحْتِهَا الْأَنْهَارُ خَالِدِينَ فِيهَا أَبَدًا ۚ رَضِيَ اللَّهُ عَنْهُمْ وَرَضُوا عَنْهُ ۚ ذَٰلِكَ الْفَوْزُ الْعَظِيمُ ﴿١١٩﴾
صدق الله العظيم
119. Allah saith: This is a day in which their truthfulness profiteth the truthful, for theirs are Gardens underneath which rivers flow, wherein they are secure for ever, Allah taking pleasure in them and they in Him. That is the great triumph.
and then uthman burned all the qurans
This is WHY there is Quran and Hadith. What was agreed upon went into Quran, what wasn’t went into qualification of Hadith.
Thanks Dr James! Your idea has initiating me to think more about Islam and the Quran
Hopefully you revert to islam the religion of jesus soon
@حروف مبعثرة مبعثرة
I'm so happy that as a Muslim my husband can hit me if I don't listen to him they way he wants me to listen to him. Ayah 4:34 the husband can strike the wife if she won't listen.
I'm so happy my husband can marry children before they have a period (Quran 65:4-5). He can have sex with children. Allah is such a righteous god. He cares so much for the women and children. Oh yeah, milk comes from the blood of a cow. Mmm blood milk, so delicious 😋
Me too..
I am a Non Believer, however, I have studied Abrahamic Faiths for more than 10 years. My Arabic is almost Fluent, I read Hebrew, I did Greek and Latin at School. I am indifferent to any and all religions. Historically, the team that Othman assembled was under the auspicious supervision of Zayd bin Thabit, the Chief Scribe of Mohammed. Additionally, there were Ali ibn Abi Talib, `Uthman ibn `Affan, `Amr ibn Al-`As, Mu'awiyah ibn Abi Sufyan, Shurahbil ibn Hasanah, `Abdullah ibn Sa'd ibn Abi Sarh, Al-Mughirah ibn Shu'bah, Ma'adh ibn Jabal, Hanzalah ibn Al-Rabi`, Ubay ibn Ka'b, Juhaym ibn Al-Salt, Husayn Al-Numayri, all of them were Hafizul Quran. Furthermore, during the month of Ramadhan, the entire Quran was recited, in portions, every night after the night prayers. Whether the Scripture is the Word of 'Allah' or not, may be questionable, whereas, the Quran is authentic and accurate as it was when assembled. Animus of Jews and Christians towards the Islamic Scripture / Faith is historical. Neither accepts Mohammed as a prophet nor the Quran as the Word of God. This man is the prime example of the Bible Bashing Miscreants. He is very cunning, conniving, bigot and zealot. Shame on him deceiving his audience, but then, most Clergy do it from the Pulpit..
Cornelius Dr Vanderbilt That fellow is IGNORANT OF THE HISTORY AND REALITIES OF ISLAM. HE SHOULD GET AN APPOINTMENT WITH ONE OF THE LEARNED MUSLIMS AND DISCUSS ABOUT IT.MEMORIZATION OF THE QURAN STARTED DURING THE LIFETIME OF THE PROPHET. WHATEVER HE SAYS ARE LIES AND LIES . QURAN WAS READ WITH DIFFERENT THYTHM AND WERE THE SAME WORDINGS. MAY ALLAH ENLIGHTEN YOU.
I wonder if you're still a nonbeliever with a study for over 10 years? Did you find that religion is being used to control people or to give the people the freedom to follow the right way of life and find true happiness?
Here comes a communist to support the mu....zzi
When you consume lies from Muslim scholars who use taquiya.Othman burnt the Mohamed Qur'an and brought up his own.And in 1924 Muslim scholars standardized Qur'an in Egypt,and adopted by Saudi Arabia,and that's the present Quran used presently.
There was also a part eaten by tame sheep,as reported by Aisha Some were also lost,some forgotten and some canceled,as admitted by various Muslim scholars.
Can someone help me find this quote. Not finding it in "Sahih al-bukhari, volume 5 pages 509-510." If you can send a link that would be nice, thankyou.
It's vol 6 chapter 61 verses 509 and 510
I found this very educational, I like how nobody out of 9 thousand people who disliked this video not one can argue or even disprove his argument.
Seems like a sign of ignorance.
Thank you for this most informed lesson!
Quran is written by humans ?.... lets find error ( in Arabic) in it and expose it to everyone
@@person10 Right...lol. Very obviously not.
@@sports_Quiz_fun It's easy to find error. There are other presentations on the errors.
@@sports_Quiz_fun there are multiple quran's that are written differently with different words which change the context of the verses.
@@sports_Quiz_fun good luck
The Quran has "Suwar" سور, not all came in order each in different time and location. So when the muslims realized that Quran was written on separate papers and many people who memorized it fully (memorized all papers) they gathered the papers and put them in order to form the known Quran book. The Quran doesn't have versions, it was only separated by time, the ones who memorize Quran know it all as if they have the full puzzle done.
You should actually refute the points he made.
Was it not written by Mohamed again?
What about the part of Qur'an eaten by tame sheep?
If we all start putting the same amount of energy in taking care of each other and looking what we all have in common, instead of trying to prove who's wrong or right, earth would be a much better place!
RisseAstraGSi agreed
Agree
A start would be revealing that these religions and their "prophets" are all human inventions. They have nothing to do with any god. All that greed, power, threat, fear, violence, manipulation and sociopathic need to control are humans being human. This is why they have invented a psychopathic god - it reflects themselves perfectly.
Try telling that to a muslim who is a hard core believer, while he/she is trying to kill you...
+Paul Ammon look up the Encyclopedia of Wars. While what you said is an oft repeated claim, the facts just do not support it. Not even close, actually.
I majored in the Sciences and one must always consider all points otherwise the truth is hopeless and will never be known! I appreciate Dr. White's study of the history of the Koran!
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James was defeated here!
I don't want to remarks anything about religions , but I like his way of speech ! Mind blowing.
I am a Muslim and I subscribed for this truth
Wow, that's great. It's been five years since your comment. May we have an update on yourself?
@@travisanderson3920 He may have been executed.
@@jensandersen7011 sad because your not off with your assumption
Yeah ok Christians are so desperate to save a dying religion
@@jensandersen7011😂😂😂
like you said in the beginning there are people that memorize the whole Quran and once the curl was put together it was sent out to different cities it was right over and they all agreed that it was cracked and that has been brought forward to this thing thank you
😂😂😂 it's been 1500 years and yet we only have one copy
True there is only one authentic origin created by Allah alone there is no other copy of the holy Quran and the only acceptable by Allah on the day of judgement his only religion Islam.There are so many sects in Islam, Christianity, Judaism and other religion who followed their own desires and fancies creating and selling for a small price and on the day of judgement Allah will seperate those who belong to theright and the left people. Those on the right are those on the right path closer to Allah who worship him alone and submissive to his commands and for those on the left are those who belong the hell fire who are heedless deviants ungrateful idolaters and defiant DISBELIEVERS who refuses and rejected 0:08 his verses.
not 1 person ever can quote a whole koran 56:36 virgin delusions, 78:33 voluptuous women delusions, 37:48 glances delusions, 38:52 glances delusions is written proof NO allah/god EVER, OBVIOUSLY mo made genocide "670 million massacred" baby killers is all 2 billion vilevil lowlife godless mohamadans
but the whole core meaning of let say any paragraph in quran's readings(kiraat) is the same , its just a matter of pronouncing a word a little bit differently
why the hand signal at 1:37?
Fantastic information! Thank you. I will pass this on to others.
part of Al Qur'an was burnt ? hmmm..great presentation sir...Greeting from Indonesia
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And all of Dr. White's presentation's based on Sahih al-Bukhari. Quoting Wikipedia, "Sunni Muslims view this as one of the two most trusted collections of hadith along with Sahih Muslim."
1:38 what does he do with his hand...?
Satanic sign. Akhi hes influenced by satan he doesn't even know he did it.
Watched the whole video while in the restroom, waiting for the exact “ayat” of veriations, the only thing I heard this guy said this and that guy said that …..
Truth must really hurt. The Quran is corrupted.
@@TheCondescendingRedditorregurgitating doesn’t win arguments, this speaker has been dismantled already
@@DopexBoyFilms No, He has destroyed every so called "Muslim apologist" but I don't blame them. It's hard to defend a flawed religion written by a 5th century warlord lol and it was lost and they memorized by Randoms and then finally recorded. who knows what even happened
This task was undertaken, not lightly, and carried to its conclusion at a time of great personal distress, through which it comforted and sustained the writer in a manner for which he will always be grateful. He therefore acknowledges his gratitude to whatever power or Power inspired the man and the Prophet who first recited these scriptures. I pray that this interpretation, poor echo though it is of the glorious original, may instruct, please, and in some degree inspire those who read it.
A. J. ARBERRY
Im surprised that James is actually attacking these bibles because he is fine with different versions, this is amazing.
If you have differen versions then every person will have personal opinions of which is true. Thats confusion. God is not God of confusion.
White says that one verse missing is not a problem, but when Quran has different accents that were recited by Muhammad too in the first place, well that is a problem now.
@arabic language is not like english.. that james white dont know anything about arabic.. you need to learn from the expert.. we muslims just sad about how ignorant this james white be..he should ask and learn first before spreading lies to all of you..nothing in the quran is lost.. we have everything in it.. go and learn from the true historian and muslim scholar..
The Bible may have scribal errors which don't alter the message.
@ Take it easy.
James said, the specific Scripture is in the footnotes (because it's descriptive).
I hope this helps ease your mind.
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@@natlee5051 word of God shouldn't be in a footnote ...
Christian vs. Muslim vs. Judaism vs. Hindu:
"My delusion of "magical sky fairies" is greater than your delusion of "magical sky fairies!"
Okay, so according to the logic put forth in this video, there are two options for the New Testament:
1) The same exact thing happened with New Testament when only 4 of the more than 40 known gospels were kept as part of the canonical New Testament - it only says that God did not aid the Christians in preserving and maintaining a unified text, but for Muslims, as He promised in the Qur'an, He kept His promise and guarded the Qur'an so that even if some people believe that there are other 'versions' or missing parts, there is no actual evidence to prove this, as there are no verses or surahs that can be found anywhere - it's like a ghost, a bunch of people claim it exists and tell stories about it, but when it comes to hard evidence, there is none.
2) If, as this gentleman says, it is matter of seeking truth/loving truth over being deceived, all of those other gospels (more than 40 that are not part of the New Testament) should be similarly read and compared to the 4 gospels in the New Testament and should be accepted as having truth in them. This would include the Gospel of Thomas, which says that Jesus went to India/the East after crucifixion, the Gospel of Judas, which says that Judas was actually the dearest disciple of Jesus and not accursed, and gospel of Barnabas which says that Jesus told his disciples not to worship him, that he was only a man, not God, and that they should accept Prophet Muhammad when he comes.
Take your pick.
Also, it is absurd to claim that '99.9999997%' of Muslims have never heard of this. I don't know what kind of Muslims he was referring to in the beginning who acted so surprised when he had told them about it in another instance, but they must have been living under a rock. The history of the compilation of the Qur'an is such a well known subject for Muslims, which should be no surprise seeing as it is clearly described in detail in Sahih Bukhari and other books of Hadith. The fact that he chose these 'variations' verses the apparent variant readings that are present to this day in the Hafs, Doori, Nafi, etc. mus-haf shows just how oblivious this gentleman is. Or maybe its because even those 'variant' readings are not 'variant' by any sense of the word, but merely describe authenticated and accepted forms of reading/pronunciation owing to differing dialects.
The example he gives of chapter 3 verse 158 is also very weak, because it would not be grammatically or linguistically correct for the text to read 'laa ila-llahi tuhsharoon' - if the verse were really to say 'you will NOT be gathered unto Allah', it would have been 'ila-llahi LAA tuhsharoon', because the negating of a verb comes before the verb in Arabic, and this is easily discernible from the rest of the Qur'an - 'laa ila-llahi tuhsharoon' would translate as something like 'then it is not to Allah that you will be gathered...' in which case it would require further indication/content to say where, or to whom, you would be gathered instead, otherwise it wouldn't make sense.
And maybe it is because there are few (if any) Christians who memorize the bible, but you are under a huge deception if you think for a moment that it is not possible or conceivable to accurately memorize/know with certainty the entire text of the Qur'an, down to the individual vowel inflections. Not only that, it is yet another deception/illusion to think that at the time of the compilation of the Qur'an, there were no more Huffaaz (people who had memorized the entire Qur'an by heart) left - and you are forgetting a very crucial point in this whole issue of compilation of the Qur'an - Abu Bakr, Umar, Uthman, Ali and Zaid bin Thabit (the one who was tasked with collecting the Qur'an) WERE ALL HUFFAAZ. They all had memorized the Qur'an by heart already during the time of Prophet Muhammad - so simply saying that Zaid had to look for the last verses of Surah Taubah as a way of trying to put into question the preservation of the entirety of the Qur'an is completely useless, because Zaid himself was a hafiz...hence why he himself KNEW that those verses existed, it was only to ensure that it was also kept (both in writing and memory) by another.
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The new testament canon was picked because of the vast majority of christians all over the Roman empire and beyond was reading and copying the same books we have today without any contact with one another whatsoever. This outright lie that there was lots of Gospels that was even debated over is pure crap !! These so called "Gospels" have been proven their not apostolic nor was their tradition traced back to the first century. It's known these
" gospels " came much later. They wasn't ever taken seriously by the church.
These lies deserve to be put on the crap heap along with silly lies like " the trinity is an invention of the council of Nicea, when they decided what went into the Bible". Utter utter utter crap !!
It's a lie , it's like the lie about Bible preservation. This so called Bible corruption, these disputed Verses aren't anything like what muslims are told by their vile teachers . The lot combined is is a pathetic half % ... Hardly unreliable.. Even our harshest critics like Bart Ehrman state these scribal errors, these disputed verses don't effect any fundamental christian teaching.
The Bible is scrutinized like no other ancient text . The standard of evidence demanded from the Bible is truly unreasonable. These same Scholars are totally happy with other ancient text. Not hardly a question raised when the earliest next text of ancient antiquity is written five hundred years after the fact ..It's a joke !! It's totally Hypocritical !
Every time I find bias against Islam it's well answered back with facts and logic. Today if Ahmed Deedat had bias against Christianity then that bias as never been answered back even after his death. Some jubilate just a single moment where he got something wrong. Recall he was human. 99.9% of preaching no one answers back with use of facts and logic.
Nabeel quraish messages biased against Islam are being answered back here on UA-cam. And things are interesting.
One is free to allow his brain to sieve information if not I wouldn't be here for additional understanding with out bias
Hadrat Usman (RA) was a great scholar of the Holy Qur’an and was a “Hafiz”(i.e. the one who commits the whole Holy Book to memory). He was well versed in “Shan-i-Nuzul” i.e. the chronology of revelation of various verses and the chapters of the Holy Qur’an, and was considered an authority in this respect. He was one of the few Companions who excelled in deriving laws from the verses of the Holy Qur’an. He had a beautiful handwriting because of which the Holy Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) appointed him as one of the scribes of the “Wahy” (Quranic Revelations).
His style of writing was well recognized among the Companions of The Prophet Muhammad PBUH. He was among ten blessed companion of Prophet PBUH. The argument by Mr White carries no weitage as he is portraying that Hadrat Usman was an emporer but he failed to deliver the fact that the man himself was an authority on Quran.
how is he an authority on Quran are you demented
think about it like this bro, if you whisper a sentence in someone’s ear and then tell them to whisper it in someone else’s ear and have that cycle continue 50 times, it’s going to be a completely different sentence.
@@hydrachop4322 😂😂😂 you wrong bro.. quran is not something like that.. you can search on UA-cam and see with your own eyes how Muslims memorised the Quran.. we have both.. memorised and scripture.. your oldest bible size is about a credit card.. not even one sentence is complete I think.. you should laugh to yourself..
@@hydrachop4322 Here’s an example: everyone knows the alphabet goes like this ABCD. Now imagine someone comes along and starts saying the alphabet is ADCB, everyone will know he’s totally wrong.
In short, this is how the Quranic oral tradition has been since the time of the prophet.
Haha Your comment is what holds no weight. You should actually refute the points he made which you didn't. He even points out that the Islamic world largely ignores these points, not even refuting them. That is EXACTLY the kind of thing you have just done.
James White best ever debate is the bible reliable don't miss it if you miss it is like you missed half of your life
when i read a marketing title of a video
i give up at once
religion is a thick chain , who keeps the man attached to his cage
it has no freedom to see more than his cage ,Islam is the champion of this
Can anyone provide me a link to what Dr white was referencing @ 6:42 I looked up SAHIH BUKHARI volume 5 pages 509-510, but I'm reading no such thing.
*If the preservation of the Qur’an failed, there’s no reason to take any other scripture seriously.*
The book went through the most vigorous method of authentication, it has a style that facilitates memorization, the book itself encourages memorization, the verses were repeated every single day, and the Arabs were excellent at memorization.
Glorious quran? You mean the book of which a whole sura got lost to history because a goat ate a page from it and the only ones who could memorize is died in a battle? Yeahhh perfectly preserved 😂
What do you not understand? 1) Quran isn’t perfectly preserved. Even if it is it means nothing. I have a perfectly preserved 2008 hs biology textbook alhamdulilah bruda this miracle! 2) perfect preservation is not a requirement for any scripture of god. (Quran doesn’t count as scripture of god bc it isn’t preserved and therefore contradicts itself. **Allah says He has revealed the Quran and He will protect it (15:9)**) He forgot to protect it from prophet Uthman and his revision. 😂
Yet today we can buy more than 30 different Arabic Qurans. And we know that Uthman was required to put the Qurans on paper some 20 years after Mohammed had died. He did that because of 2 main reasons. The first was that too many people who had memorized the Quran has died in battle and the second was that different groups of Muslims recited the Qurans so differently that fights broke out as to who had memorized the Qurans correctly. So just 20 years after Mohammed had died the "excellent memorization" by Arabs had failed completely. And as we can buy more than 30 different Arabic Qurans today we know that the memorization of the Qurans (plural) has not improved.
Documentation is something we can analyze. A dead man’s words, we cannot. The method of transmission the Quran went through is based on memorization which is an extremely flimsy foundation to test the authenticity of the true words of Muhammad. Memorization cannot be perfect. Lol
@@menknurlan goat ate a page? you mean the abrogated verse lmao
The Quran consists of 114 Suras that are assembled by verses that number from 4 to 286. According to the tradition the suras are based on the words of Muhamad in 23 years. During his life Mohamed has changed several suras, revoked them and many have been lost or shortened. The writer Ubay testifies - for example - that sura 33 (al-Ahzab) had 200 verses, but finally only 73 remained. Aisha, the favorite wife of the prophet, - for example - reported that she also lost some verses.
Shortly after the death of Muhamad his comrade Ibn Thabit (who was able to write) started to collect the different documents, but soon seven different versions existed. To avoid confusion the third Caliph Othman (Ruled 644 - 656) ordered Ibn Thabit and several helpers from the tribe of the Quraisch to produce an error free version of the words of Muhamad. This version was then sent to the four capitals of the Caliphate - Medina, Damaskus, Kufa and Basra. This book is called the „Othman Quran“, the only valid version according to traditional Islam. 114 suras with up to 286 verses per sura were told to Muhamad by the archangel Gabriel (according to the traditional belief), which he forwarded to his followers without error or omission. But this was not done in the form of a book, but orally as the tradition demanded. Over the years the followers memorised the suras but modified them during this process. Several official edits were then made in the years to follow. For example, Ubaydallah, the governor of Mesopotamiens, added 2000 Alif („a“) in his version of the Quran. This is interesting as in the Arab language the addition of one Alif might change the meaning of a word completely.
The hadiths of al-Buhari (died 870), Muslim (died 875), Ibn Madscha (died 886), Abu Dawud (died 888), Tirmidhi (died 892), and Nasa’i (died 915) were wirtten 150 to 250 years after the death of the prophet. these are extraction of the many millions of hadith that existed at that time. A certain al-Audscha confessed to have invented over 4 000 hadith, Abu Dawud, one of the prominent authors, stated to have taken only 4,800 from over 500,000 hadith that he collected (“that appeared authentic, or almost”), Al-Buhari, the most prominent hadith-editor, accepted only 7,400 of over 600,000 hadith. The Shias have five collections of hadiths that differ.
While there is no original version of the Othman Quran, it is believed that the current version - the edit of Cairo from the year 1924 - is only very roughly based on Quran version that were finalised around the year 900. The base for the Quran of Cairo is a Quran version of 1886 that was editied using old Arab grammar rules defined by al-Sigistani (died 928) and the Spanish expert al-Dani (died 1053). No old writings were used in this process. The problem here is that the language of Mekka was very much different that the traditional Arab that was spoken by the later editors and they actually had to translate the original text. Many words were unknown then and writing errors contributed to a bigger alteration from the original talks of Muhamad. This lead to the fact that many of the words used had to be interpreted (and then re-entered the Arabic language under their new meaning), due to the many differences in the language the pure version of the Quran is not readable for even an Arab without comments. But even the commentors like at-Tabari (838-923 n. Chr.) had to admit that they had to guess the meaning of several passages. Additional confusion is caused by the ranking of the suras according to their length and not their context increases the difficulty of the interpretation, many are taken out of context. All Quran fragments before the version of the 10th century (Sanaa and Istambul versions especially) have a complete different structure of the suras. Experts, that also know Aramaean dialects (which relates more to the basic religious texts of that time than modern Arab), reckon that about 25% are wrongly interpreted in modern versions.
It might - therefore - make sense to have a look at older versions of the Quran. Especially the version of Sanaa might be interesting as it is the oldest version that exists (except maybe for a secret version in Rome or Istambul). The differences will be startling.
But is this important? Actually not. Muslims believe that Allah's influence will have influenced the flow of events and interpretations that the existing mainstream books still reflect the pure Quran. Differences vs. old versions were supposedly important as other people might have needed to encounter another Quran in another time - as it might have been the wish of Allah. With this pragmatic approach the critique of Dr. James White and other historians becomes far less relevant only two alternatives emerge for the faithful Muslim:
A. I have been following a stupid scheme by humans and wasted my faith for nothing, or
B. I have been following a divine scheme by Allah and invested my faith to enter paradise.
Any normal human would know which alternative he/she would need to believe; everything else would drive him/her crazy. And this is maybe a reason why modern Salafism is so successful; it serves as a shield against modern science and society that more and more exposes the shortcomings of ancient beliefs.
What a mess!
That is Islamic propaganda. The textual history of the Quran is similar to the Bible and far from what the Prophet recited. See: www.answering-islam.org/Books/Jeffery/thq.htm
Hello Mr. James you can easily get a briefly described answer of your query about the collection, burning and again writting of the holy Quran on UA-cam. Search for it.
i have read in the bible it say The word was made flesh which is christ and that the word was inspired by God through men to write and there is a grave price if any add or take away ,and when reading the word its living! My God is sure and Loves ! John 3:16
Why do the gospels contradict themselves if god inspired truth to come out of them
@@fuckingsean8922 Because spiritual truth is not the same as literal truth.
I dont know why people are fighting in the name of religion ..you have bible, gospels, quran ,vedas, upanishads and lot more to investigate. Cant we maintain peace and respect each other and let others do their job
MD MUKHTAR ALAM u r rite bro. But thier r only muslims who push their religion to others...
MD MUKHTAR ALAM
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MD MUKHTAR ALAM where i come from muslims dont respect anyone there attacking the weak any chance they get , only any empty churchs they try to turn them into mosqes thats not respect we took them in gave them a home and food and they spit on the faces off our women and children , this is my story.
it's not fight, but rather A DEBATE of wich religion to be followed. No,we can't live in the peace like that.
FOR POLITICS is made of:communism,socialism,democracy,religion, marxism,arisotel theory, roman empire theory,theory of Anarchy, theory of ''full freedom of unmorallity'', theory of ''every man for himself(when you are allowed to have gun), theory of having gun but only to defend country, theory of if anyone steps your land kill him, THEORY OF MONARCHY,PRESIDENTY, FULL MONARH leadrship. Millitary rules ,Police rules, People rules,ONLY politic rules, politic and people rules.
WICH RULE TO APPLY AS THE BEST SOLUTION TO THE PEOPLE?
ISLAM. cause The Word of God never change.
16:16 "there's the *blowup* of the text" (laughter).
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There are no "versions" of the Holy Qur'an. There are however, many difert translations. There is a distinct different "translation" (choice of words) & version.
The more complicated a thing sounds, the more lies can be hidden within.
Simplicity is the companion of truth.
And Jews and Muslims believe in true monotheism. Not a complicated trinity.
@@sheeshabedin1379 We also believe in one God, but God is not so easy to understand, comprehend, and fully know, because he is all almighty and OUT OF THIS WORLD. And I would say it's almost the same with Muhammed splitting the moon, while everything is calm and with us not dying.
And it's not our fault that Allah couldn't preserve his words (Torah and Injil) "as he does with the Quran". He wanted them to be corrupted by people so that Judaism and Christianity can begin existing hundreds of years BEFORE ISLAM. That means mostly he only wanted you Arabs to be saved, by preserving his word when he gave the right holy book in ARABIC to you Arabs(Muhammed). So it's not our fault that we became Jews and Christians, it's Allah's fault that he couldn't preserve his words FROM THE BEGINNING. Maybe the answer is that this is Allah's divine work to deceive or let people be deceived by his corrupted words right?
@@sheeshabedin1379 woh bruh that comeback was brutal xD
@@sheeshabedin1379 you believe that a illiterate murderer who was choked by a demo gave you your holy book--We will stick with Jesus and alot of Muslims are coming to the truth of Jesus.
@@cinesonicvibes LMAO and u think the bible was revealed in English?
As long as i know, persons who could memorize Qur'an not called qurah, but hafidz.
Most of the Muslims have never read entirely the books of their religion (coran and sunna). This religion has become a way of life. So a Muslim will always defend his religion because he was built on it. So when you criticise his religion you criticise him and his parents who gave him his education.
Few of them have the courage to check those criticisms, they are generally open minded.
The best way to show them they are wrong is to be an exemple of perfection.
Religions are diverse to fulfil our cultural differences. These are God’s Jewels. Let’s respect that and Love and Embrace each other. There is right and wrong in everything. No one is perfect. God is Perfect. We are here to learn Tolerance, Acceptance. Humility, and Love. We are all children of the same God.
Dr James, interesting talk, but I do disagree that many Muslim's don't know the history about the gathering of the Quran, you are trying soo hard to say that the Hafiz( people that memorized) the Quran were all dead before the gathering of the Quran, which is absolutely incorrect, all the companion's of the Profet was a Hafiz, is own Cousin Ali, loyal friends Abu Bakr, Uthman and Omar was Hafiz and still alive at that time. Islamic History will show your the reason for the collection of the Quran was due to Spoken Arabic language of that time and write Arabic of that time was not 100% the same, only them that got taught how to recite the Quran text written without the vowel knew how to read them, and having lost so many Hafiz at battle the collection was a must and their is no doubt about that. Dr James White, You Sir are a scholar in your faith so ask and work with real scholar specialized in this subject instead of asking a man of faith that is not specialized in this matter and claiming that all Muslim don't know anything about the Quran text collection.
Dr James White good speech but far from fully finished.
Understand the Islamic history and Arab culture of that time and the time after Profets dead, you will find clear evidence of so many Munafiqun(Hypocrite) tried to distort the written Quran at that time, even when the Profet was alive. Their are clear Quranic verses discussing about the Munafiqun, referring to them as more dangerous to Muslim than the worst non-Muslim enemies of Islam.
Thanks you for hearing me out best of luck with your research.
Cant believe that this went on. The fact that the muslims constantly talk about the bible being tampered with lol wowwww. Good job James white.
No, he only said there were heavy casualities and fear of losses. He never tried to say all had died...smh. He also did not say that ALL Muslims don't know, only that it is not common knowledge among Muslims.
I believe that is what he said--distortions, not the pure word. Likewise for Christian, there have been false teachers and heretics.
So if as you claim Muslims know about the changes and corruptions of the early Qurans, why do Muslims today claim that there is only one perfectly preserved Quran? And that when we all know we can buy more than 30 different Arabic Qurans today. Oh, and please do not insult our intelligence by referring to qiraats as we know that Uthman ordered that his Quran should only use the Quraishi dialect, so who invented all the other Qurans we can buy today?
@@johnzuma4688
Poor u try to convince ur self that there are many versions of the quran hahaha
Understand before you write
Yes you can buy many versions (of translations) yes there is many english translation versions..... But only one arabic version is memorized and preserved
@@soohamdy8538 So you still believe in the fairy tale of the one perfectly preserved Quran???
And I refer to ARABIC Qurans not translations.
As the hafs Quran and warsh Quran are the most used Qurans they are the ones usually compared. You will find that number of verses in Hafs is 6236, while Warsh has only 6214 verses.
In Surah Al imran 3:146 in the hafs Quran it states “And many a prophet fought” and in the warsh Quran it states “And many a prophet was killed”.
In verse 2:184, the Hafs Quran reads the verse to be "... a ransom [as substitute] of feeding a poor person...". On the other hand, the Warsh Quran reads it "... a ransom [as substitute] of feeding poor people..."
Logically prophets being killed is not the same as prophets fighting and feeding one is different from feeding many. Clearly we have two different Qurans here which proves that the Qurans (plural) have not been perfectly preserved.
Differences between hafs and warsh Quran.
www.free-minds.org/sites/default/files/WhichQuran.pdf
1.8 billion muslims in the world, 99.99999997 of that is 180, im sure more than 180 muslims have seen this
😂 he was figuratively speaking
Just want to throw a question out there to see which answers are given.
Who wrote the Koran?
I am a new revert and i am aware there are 4 schools in islam but this is seen as stuff for those deep in understanding but my answer would be the last prophet, Mohammed, Peace and blessing be upon him and the Lords angels.
Every Muslim with little knowledge knows that many hufaz were still alive after the revelation of the quran comes to end
God never changes his mind, according to people who never change their minds about god.
skaruts
Yes.
Hebrew books and scriptures shows exactly whst you said
you're right, one in a million gets this correct, lets see if you can handle the truth/emet www.yadayah.com
There is only one god, the one who talked to Moses about humiliating the gods of Egypt.
WHEN ARE PEOPLE GOING TO GET SMART AND REALIZE THERE IS NO GOD IN THE OLD DAYS WHEN NO ONE WENT BEYOND THE STARS IT WAS UNDERSTANDABLE BUT NOT NOW WE HAVE SENT MEN OUT INTO SPACE.
Get smart, realize you hit the CapsLock key.
An issue that is overlooked is not just a work of literature that is simply read. It is an oral recitation which is memorized by multiple people. Anyone who has listened to music understands the ability to easily memorize melodies and how one can memorize songs after only having heard them a few times.
What that means is that even though his description of the history of the written compilation of the Qur'an is correct it overlooks the fact that multiple people had memorized the recitation of the Qur'an by sound, not just by knowledge of it's content. There are two ways to memorize the Qur'an. I know the several chapters by sound and can easily point out when a mistake is made even though I lack the knowledge which the Arabic verse is depicting.
this argument falls short and is not evidence that the Qur'an is flawed and certainly falls short in proving the New Testament is more worthy of believing it is not corrupted
In the hadiths it says they forgot it, there are chaptors that are missing its a good argument but it falls short in light of the hadiths umar forgot
Lol have you played the telephone game? Just from only 4-5 people in chain of transmission the original words spoken are completely different. That's why muhammad said, as long as you don't mistake justice with mercy and mercy with justice it's okay. Here's the issue. If you have chains of transmission, over time the meaning switches so when the first person says a certain word, the 5th chain of transmission could easily be the opposite or differ from the main words that the first person said. Plus all the extra information found in the hadith that mr. white talks about in this video that are problematic...
Seriously man listen.. don't be blinded. Can still have your free choice to follow Islam but logically this blows my mind if you are to sweep this under the rug. And most people do than go and say the Bible is corrupt 😂 not saying you.
Ask your self why the muslims accept HAFS QURAN but not a single hadit from hafs is accepted.. all are Daif!!🤣😂🤣😂 but hes quran is just the best!!
Mayby you muslims actually, was the first in the world to burn the so called Holy quran, and all you are left with is the madness of Muhammad.
@@austincollard7589 we literally check each other and correct each other on our memorization today go to a mosque during taraweed during Ramadan by the end of Ramadan well have the entire Quran recited off straight memory. What makes you think that the Sahaba couldn’t have done it when they literally had the Prophet saw himself or at least lived during his time. Besides you can even look up numerical miracles the Quran makes if one of the verses were missing or added then it would all crumble
The Qur’an read out loud is 19 hours and 15 minutes. I only know that because you can buy an audio version of it.
Memorizing a 3 minute song is easy.
Memorizing a 20 hour story of nonsense, given to a child molester (Aishah) by an Angel is a pretty far fetched story.
Aren't there 10 different different qiraat (accents) in the Quran? If so, wouldn't that mean that certain words would be different but the meaning is still the same
One word.. different style to recite it.. same meaning.. learn from qari.. dont learn from this Liars .
@@MuhammadAbdillah111liar is you, arabic recitation changes meaning, so stop deceiving
The first mention of Christianity in Arabia occurs in the New Testament as the Apostle Paul refers to his journey in Arabia following his conversion {Galatians 1: 15-17}. Later, Eusebius of Caesarea discusses a bishop name Beryllus in the sea of Bostra, the site of a synod c. 240 and two Council's of Arabia.*One in 246 a.d. and other in 247. Both before Council of Nicea 325 a.d.
both were held against Beryllus, the local bishop, and his followers, who believed that the soul perished upon the death of the body, but that it would one day rise with the body.
I am a Muslim before watching this
I am a Muslim after watching this
Generex 251 ☝️❤
Generex 251 same
Generex 251 Super and I belive in big tall oaks.
Generex...because your brainwashed mate. You have been taught to reject any criticism of your faith, as you have no answers to the ridiculous things Mohammed apparently said...flying donkeys and fucking 9 year olds. Its a joke and you know it. He was a sick schizophrenic prophet! It is becoming known and the fact is you have been supporting and praising this vile cretin for centuries. Your faith is too far gone to turn back now, but hopefully you will all see the truth soon.
So what.
Ibn masud said, uthman said, nothing muhamad said ,this guys aguement is dead on arrival, he is basically agueing on different pronounciations but no ommssion of whole verses and charpters just like the bible,he basically more confused.
Abdinasir Omar
Marcus Aurelius-Quinn
He can articulate sentences in English even if incorrectly spelt. Can you say anything in Arabic, dumb fuck?
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The point was people outside your world are bi- or multilingual, so no point being an ignorant critic.
As for Christianity, we Muslims respect Christians and always have done by law!
By law, I mean the Sharia of Islam.
This gentleman is mistaken on the Quran, the compilation of which was more sophisticated than he imagines.
Please don't think I know nothing about Christianity. The Quran teaches about what Christians believe and I went to a Christian school.. And my background is Hindu.
All the best.
At 9:11 he names which religions where edited
Are there variations in chapter #10? Because that is the sign of Jonah.🐐💔🐐
how many Muslims keeping by heart the Quran even if they did not gather in a book it will be in their hearts ... the amazing thing in Quran that you can find 7 years old child keeping by heart from the start to the end without a single mistake and no adding or omitting a single leter....amazing isn't it ..))
Yeah i mean i don't know how they can unsee this clear fact that Allah indeed made it easy to memorize. None of them have ever memorized any book in their life and all of them know how hard it is and yet a kid doing it doesn't surprise them. Indeed eyes are not blind, it's the heart that is blind.
Christians defend their belief by lies..
Memorizing without understanding is like eating without digesting... The content of quran is muhammad marrying a 6yr old aisha, mohd, zaid and zainab love triangle, the 16 privileges of mohd, the 72virgins of jihad boys, this book cannot be from god, it will never be...
Complete lie. Even if true, White proved that the first Muslims, according to the sources that all Issham is based on, had numerous different versions. Your new joke Quran that your 7 year old is now wasting time reciting, was not invented until 1924 in Cairo Egypt.
As White also shows the Sanaa Palimpsest proves that there have been DIFFERENT Qurans, from the actual artifact evidence of Muslim Quran manuscripts themselves.
The problem is even if they got it right by heart, they memorizing that Muhammad marrying a 6 years old, Muhammad marrying his adopted son's wife, sun sets in a muddy pool, etc.
👍😀 *One of my favorite variances in the Quranic texts is when the oldest written version ever discovered was found to say "72 grapes", and not "72 virgins". Imagine dying a horrible painful death as an isis fighter, thinking you have 72 virgins waiting for you, when the oldest text actually says GRAPES. 😂 Bahaha* 😆
You ARE WRONG!!!! IT IS CLEAR IT IS 72 Sturgeon. Fish not grapes, well maybe some grapes in the fish mouth.
She Who Knows All : There is no versions in the Qur'an. The Qur'an is the same since it was revealed to the prophet Muhammad peace upon him.
The Christians bible have over 2000 versions. Because it is not the WORD of God.
No where in the entire Qur'an the 72 virgins or 72 grapes.
Christianity is a ant Christ, Paganism cult founded by the Romans who had a Son of God cult. It is imitation of unclean spirits (DEVIL) belief. According to the bible itself.
(MARK 3:11) " And whenever the unclean spirits (DEVILS) beheld him (Jesus), they fell down before him and cried out, "You are the Son of God".
Give the reference, if you are truthfull
She Who Knows All
Answer me this contradictions:
1.Who incited David to count the fighting men of Israel?
(a) God did (2 Samuel 24: 1)
(b) Satan did (I Chronicles 2 1:1)
2.In that count how many fighting men were found in Israel?
(a) Eight hundred thousand (2 Samuel 24:9)
(b) One million, one hundred thousand (IChronicles 21:5)
3. How many fighting men were found in Judah?
(a) Five hundred thousand (2 Samuel 24:9)
(b) Four hundred and seventy thousand (I Chronicles 21:5)
4.God sent his prophet to threaten David with how many years of famine?
(a) Seven (2 Samuel 24:13)
(b) Three (I Chronicles 21:12)
5.How old was Ahaziah when he began to rule over Jerusalem?
(a) Twenty-two (2 Kings 8:26)
(b) Forty-two (2 Chronicles 22:2)
6.How old was Jehoiachin when he became king of Jerusalem?
(a) Eighteen (2 Kings 24:8)
(b) Eight (2 Chronicles 36:9)
The difficulty in reconciling the statement in 1 Chronicles 21:1, “Satan . . . moved David,” with that of 2 Samuel 24:1, “the Lord moved David,” is not problematic. All temptation is permitted by God, but not caused by God. When evil spirits tempt us, they do so by permission (Job 1:12, 2:6; Luke 22:31). Satan therefore provoked David to number the people, and God allowed him to do so. God allows those things which serve to advance His holy and perfect will.
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learly, Israel had already experienced three years of famine before David numbered the people of Israel and Judah-for reasons unrelated to the situation in question. 2 Samuel 24:1-7 record the initiation of the census, but we find in verse 8 that “"when they had gone through all the land, they came to Jerusalem at the end of nine months and twenty days."”
So according to the text, numbering the people was nearly a year-long process, and there is no clear indication that God had suspended the initial three-year famine prior to the events in chapter 24. Now if God had combined three additional years of famine (1 Chronicles 21:12) with the three years of initial famine, and a possible intervening year while the census was conducted, the resulting overall famine would have totaled about seven years (2 Samuel 24:13).
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Young Jehoshaphat and young Athaliah of Israel engage in an illicit affair for political reasons during the reign of Asa.
Jehoshaphat and Athaliah give birth to Ahaziah, perhaps out of wedlock.
Jehoshaphat and his true wife, a woman of Judah, give birth to Jehoram.
Jehoshaphat becomes king of Judah after Asa's death.
By virtue of his relationship to Athaliah, Jehoshaphat king of Judah is given some jurisdiction over Israel and is considered also "king of Israel".
Ahaziah, being Jehoshaphat's son, shares Jehoshaphat's limited jurisdiction over Israel and becomes co-regent of Israel with Ahab at age 22.
Despite being co-regent of Israel by virtue of his father Jehoshaphat's authority, Ahaziah cannot succeed the throne of Israel at Ahab's death because Ahab has his own sons.
Before Jehoshaphat died, he appointed his younger son Jehoram a pure prince of Judah to become king of Judah, bypassing Ahaziah's right to the throne.
Jehoshaphat dies.
Jehoram becomes king of Judah after Jehoshaphat's death.
Jehoram takes Athaliah as his wife.
Ahaziah legally becomes the son of Jehoram, despite being older than Jehoram.
Ahaziah becomes king of Judah at age 42 after Jehoram's death.
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Commentators on these verses explain that Jehoiachin was, in fact, crowned twice. Shortly after Jehoiachin’s father, Jehoiakim, began his reign, he (or the king of Egypt) crowned his eight-year-old son as heir to the throne, to ensure that Jehoiachin would become king after him.
Jehoiakim himself had to wrest the throne (with the help of the King of Egypt) from his younger brother, Jehoahaz. As a result, Jehoiakim wanted to ensure that his firstborn would be firmly ensconced on the throne before his own death.
When Jehoiachin was eighteen, Jehoiakim died and Jehoiachin in fact took the throne.
It is a matter of great significance that all of the four caliphs (Abu Bakr, Umar, Uthman and Ali) as well ZAID bin Thabit himself, were all huffaaz - had all memorized the entirety of the Qur'an, already while the Prophet Muhammad was alive...they all knew what was in the Qur'an and were aware of its contents, so do not be misled by thinking that their compiling of the Qur'an and Zaid's search for certain verses was out of any ignorance/weakness on their part.
"Falsehood cannot approach it either from before or from behind it. It is a revelation from the Wise, the Praiseworthy." (41:43)
Hi, my dear Dr. James White, you never mentioned about before 2000 AD where was Christanty was born, was Bible written and published then before 2000 AD
I am not Muslim but my major is history of religion and I took 3rd year of Islam course. The professor told about the history if Koran and he mentioned Koran cannot be the words exact written from Prophet Muhammad but it is the collection of the texts over a century during Islamic empire. If we read the text we usually find the information of laws and codes in specific matters, not many philosophical wisdom. This text is collection of more political writings then spiritual experience writings.
Watch islam vid facts “Kennedy Report - Sons of Abraham”.
Your "professor" must have hit his head. 🤣🤣
@@Sid0404 Wow, you don't even accept Muslim Scholar Professors !!!
What's wrong with your head, too much truth exposed?!!!
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Bible teaches us to love one another. It teaches us to love even our enemies.
Chhuangi Khawlhring Qur'an teaches us the same. It teaches us to give testimony that I'sa (Jesus) were god's prophet too. And that your book was also revealed by God. It asks us to respect I'sa. Where are you now in this?
THE ONLY WAY WE CAN LOVE OUR ENEMIES IS TO SEE THEM AS TOOLS IN GODS HAND. THIS HAND PUTS CHALLENGES IN OUR WAY SO THAT WELL LEARN TO CONQUER THE CHALLENGES & THUS MOVE UP THE LADDER OF SALVATION
same for koran but for gods and prophets it s not the same story
Same as Quran.
*Quran 25:63*
_And the servants of the Most Merciful are those who walk upon the earth easily, and when the ignorant address them [harshly], they say [words of] peace,_
This comment and Reply is not as chaos as the top ones
Its right we should share love not hate
Assalamualaikum, From A Peacefull Muslim.
Dream - Roblox & More but there is a verse in quran which says you shouldnt be friends with christians or jews or atheists can you explain this too me please
Why human beings trying to ruin each other and their faith, instead focus to themselves to be better person
Just because people died in the battle doesnt mean only those people had certain portions of quran memorised. What Umar was talking about was about the people who had memorised the quran completely. Even then hadith tells us that a few hafiz(full memorisers) survived the battle and they contributed to the collection of the quran afterwards.
Even then the quran was fact checked both with oral recitation and written scripture. Quran suras were scattered around the land in written parchments which were done at the time of the prophet.
Full quran was done in 1st year after Muhammad died by a person who was Muhammad's own secretary and Muhammad would tell him where to place verses and in what order and he would learn from him complete recitation of the quran, since we know the quran was revealed in portions, verses and sometimes full chapters which were not necessarily in order but Muhammad got guidance of their proper order after the fact.
Muhammad's secretary Zayd ibn Thabit was the best person who knew the quran after Muhammad. He used his own knowledge but to be even more sure he told everyone in the land to present their recordings with written parchments and them reciting the verses. He would fact check their pronounciation and every letter and then compile the quran.
Uthman didn't make up a quran like White says. Literally Uthman with the help of Zayd which honestly did the work for him, literally fact checked every copy of the quran around and got the best version Muhammad ordered by the time he died.
Also pretty ironic for a christian to say Uthman 'edited' the quran when literally the whole bible is different scholars writings. Not a single person, uthman or zayd even wrote a single letter to the quran and shipped it as Quran.
There was no bible when Jesus left. Literally no bible. Just his sayings that people memorised that later on these writers would quote and then add other verses which Jesus never spoke.
The changes you try to mention as different in quran are literally different accents of arabic, that Muhammad himself would recite so that every tribe in arabia would fully grasp the scripture. These accents were taught to him by angel Gabriel himself and everyone knows that and its an authentic knowledge of Islam.
Which is right color, or colour? Aluminium or Aloominum
Literally all these 7 different version of the Quran are like this. They have the same content but different pronounciation and all are correct since all of them were recited by the Prophet. Neither one removes or adds new letters or words.
The reason muslims ridicule bible versions because they really are versions. You can read the same verse in so many different ways. Its not just how you pronounce a word, a whole sentence can be changed. Though the meaning is still the same, that is a problem. Even then you have a translation, of a book written in greek. Even Greek itself wouldnt perfectly describe aramaic that Jesus spoke, so you already lost at preserving scripture, considering Jesus spoke it and wasnt written by other people which is not the case. So you also have that problem.
Also claiming Uthman's collection is not preserved is an ignorant statement. Go to the british museum and then get a quran. It will read the same, the full chapter that they have in the museum. You won't find a footnote that says there is a variant because Muslims already know that that variant is not the correct one. Just becuase you find variant copies, that doesn't mean its the true quran. Uthman used the best hafiz and Muhammad's secretary to compile the quran. Other parchments were writings of laymen.
The fact that christians have footnotes that say this part has a different meaning, etc shows that they are not confident on what is the true version and what is fabricated so they show it out there in the hopes that maybe in the future they could find more codexes to try to solve that problem. No problem with that, but you can't use that argument to say Quran is wrong.
Uthman destroyed other versions because he was confident he had the best Quran.
Ur last line prooves that because of one mans overconfidence ur entire quran's authenticity got shattered.
cope harder also no one really read big ass para
interesting perspective, and great delivery I just had to give the video a like, it deserves it. However the claim that very few muslims know this is not true. you can test this out by asking any muslim you knw about how the Quran was compiled, did mohammed compile the quran, or the legacy of caliph abubakr. its nt some new discovery, its something very widely known. even in kids books it there, atleast iv seen it in a few books for kids used in schools.
it is always an awe to an outsider of a religion when they discover something new about said religion :)
However, the power of any religion is how to make its story swallowable and livable. you know but it doesn't disturb you.
Scientology
Christianity
Islam etc.
An outisder will always be like "whoa". the inside will always be like "yes true, but the thing is ..."
you didn't listen to video didn't you?
Interesting ? Great delivery ? So you agree that the perfect preservation is not true ?
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The people who died in the war after the death of muhammed have completely memorised the quran like people do today 👍
yea right ;) even your hadits tells us that didn't happened and many people died who memorised. You have no quran from muhammed, uthman burned all, and whats even baffling, uthman made 8 copies and you don't EVEN HAVE THOESE. You don't have nothing. Matter of fact we have 32 different arabic qurans today and they ALL differ from one another. So pleaseeee allah couldn't protect the quran 20 years yet alone for 1400. And even if we read the quran it self it states ''allah protects the quran, and even if ONE DOT is changed then you will know its NOT from god'' its amazing how God exposes things because look here. muahmmed was a false prophet and in that age muhammeds arabic didn't even use dots, but look at the arabic today. Its full of dots, and if you remove those dots it will be IMPOSSIBLE for you to read that arabic. So we see how the REAL GOD made an example of the FALSE PROPHET yet again. There are many many more things wich i won't go into now where the True God Jesus Christ exposes muhammed for what he was, A FALSE PROPHET FROM SATAN
Lol u blinded from the truth. Thousands of contradictions and errors in the new testament and u dare to criticise the Muslim and claim the Koran is so.
@@sandeepperhar5169 You are decived
Luke 6 12
One of those days Jesus went out to a mountainside to pray, and spent the night praying to God.
Jesus Christ is prophet of Allah
@@God1stProductions Keep worshipping dead man hanging on the cross ☠️☠️☠️
@@adamsmith586 Islam believes Jesus is coming back and will fight the anti Christ, you don't even know your religion ☠️, such a joke. Jesus is Lord.
Just for everyone's information, John 5:4 in Revised Standard Version is found in the "notes" which say: "Other ancient authorities, insert, wholly or in part, "waiting, for the moving of the water; for an angel of the Lord went down at certain seasons into the pool, and troubled the water; whoever stepped in first after the troubling of the water was healed of whatever disease he had." ESV fails the reader majorly by not keeping these notes intact. You will find the gospel in the ESV, but you won't find the scholarly input (in otherwords)
Dr. James says the New Testament has never been edited. But what about the testaments that talk about Maria Magdalena being the girlfriend of Jesus or other gospels that have been omitted from the biblical canon? Isn't that editing in a way as well?
ALLAH (SWT) revealed in the Qur’an:
“Indeed, it is We who sent down the Qur'an and indeed, We will be its guardian.” (15.9)
Nicole's Dance, you're right - it is quite obvious that muhammed wrote the quran. Muslims try to explain the "we" thing as a royal plural denoting the splendor and grandeur of allah!!!! But just look at the multiple pronouns in the following surah- one of many in the quran with mixed pronouns:
"Glory be to HIM Who made HIS servant to go on a night from the Sacred Mosque to the remote mosque of which WE have blessed the precincts, so that WE may show to HIM some of OUR signs; surely HE is the Hearing, the Seeing." S. 17:1 Shakir
Can you figure out who is speaking and to whom? I certainly can't. Is allah speaking to himself/herself/themselves? Why is allah giving glory to himself/herself/themselves?
No, muhammed the moron is speaking and lost track of the pronouns.
no if u believe that you're stupid bruv
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ٌ ، yahweh
Who the hell is "We"?
Actually the reality is this: Arabic is not like English, it has annotations which change the meanings. An Arabic person of that time does not need the annotation to know the meaning, he just knows the correct word. These annotations were not known to the rapidly expanding Muslim populations with many ethnicity and languages. And so they started producing variations.
In order to revert to a standard, Caliph Uthman reproduced the text compiled shortly after the death of prophet Mohammad (which is the best version, and closest that was available). Unlike other sacred texts, it was compiled not a 100 or 1000 years later but rather less than 5 years. The accuracy is further strengthened by confirmation on the the correct version by multiple sources and by the writing of the scribes during Prophet Mohammed's time. And yes, Uthman had to get it right because otherwise he can not remain Caliph.
The above fact was conveniently left out in the argument of Dr. James.
Another fact: most Muslims know that Caliph Uthman compiled the universal version read today because it can be read correctly and understood by a non arabic person like me.
So Dr. James is statistically wrong about the 99.whatever %
Omar Niaz Amen bro.
Amen to that.
John michael.... what are saying it makes sense 2018 years ago.
Now who's going to follow you...??! holding hands and shit.
Please don't bring your offering packets....or ask me for donations.
Omar: Than is not a book for all people.... The world don't speak Arabic dumb nut.
and so are omissions...as a coverup vs INFIDELS!
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James was defeated here!
when you click on a video because of its MAJOR troll effect
There is alot to discuss here. Othman, Abu Bakr, Umar, Ali, Ibn Masuud had the Quraan memorized and death is a termination of human to human transmission which was the embedded tradition of the Arabs. Kinda like when I was kid 30 years ago memorizing phone numbers was a reality that has been replaced by smart phones. The fear that the Qura or reciters were dying was a concern because besides fighting battles they had the responsibility to teach Muslims who were in the Islamic frontier.
There were different dialects that were part of revelation that were delivered to us by our prophet. The prophets companions were told by the prophet of their legitimacy. Peace and blessings be upon him.
Finding and collecting written pages before compiling complete written copies did not refute the consensus of the collective memory of the companions.
More then any generation of religious adherents the companions of our prophet understood that they were totally responsible accountable for the transmission of the Word of God, the Quran, and detailing the true events surrounding the life of our prophet, peace and blessings be upon him.
Just Waste my time.
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Azman Mohd Yacob I'am Christian in Indonesian (the large muslims population) christianity is growing in my country. Tuhan Yesus Berkati
hey! I am a Muslim and I knew about what you said before you said it. I'm glad the first 5-6 minutes you're pointing out all the flaws in the bible and how many different issues you guys have with in it. It's funny... to me it seems like you are saying it's okay for the bible to have mistakes as long as you guys tell us about it. I liked that the so called information you are trying to teach as the " truth " about the Quran came from a Christian, which you said was giving to you at 12:10 of this video. Logically right... any person if you are to learn how to cook, you are going to a chef. If you have medical questions, you ask a doctor. So where logically in any right state of mind will I learn about Islam from a Christian? and when I learned about Christians and the bible, I asked my Christian friends. Just became you found a page where someone copied an extra letter, doesn't mean that there is a whole new Quran out there. Its plain and simple, when Muslims are asked to bring, read or talk about the Quran is only one copy that most us Muslims follow, let's use your number 99. 999997%.... lol maybe I messed a few 9's. The simple fact it, the Quran is the truth, there's only one copy that is used by 99.99999997% of Muslims follow. My question is, If Uthman didn't do what he did then we would be in the same predicament as the Jews and the Christians. Let's use pure facts, Number of copies of the Quran that are accepted is One , Number of bibles accepted in the world.... over 4,000. That is crazy for you to even try to dear and compare 1 book to over 4,000. Your argument is over before it starts my brothers and sisters in humanity. In the Quran we are encouraged to use critical thinking about Allah , the Quran and the verse' s in the Quran. But in the bible, I can't even get an explaintion on how the trinity works. Every time I respectfully ask a Christian about it and for them to explain it to me, they tell me...its just like that and you have to believe .... or they tell me themselves it's confusing or get upset at me because now they can't see how that makes sense to them. At the end of the day, we are all children of Adam and we all believe that and no one can argue that. Allah is one, and his massage was sent to us via prophets and messengers. Look at the world and name one thing that wasn't made with purpose, I'm talking about objects and things of that nature. Now look at us and ask yourself what is my purpose in one word. Our purpose is to worship Allah alone, it's simple don't complicate it. Love you all and peace and blessing to all!
This dude should have this talk in Deerborn, Michigan.
Is there any scientific evidence that the Quran has not been changed at all?
Have you hear children sing a song with a good rhyme? They memorise it very easily if you keep repetitively play the song for the children. Well this is not only happen to children but also to adults, you remember the perfect lyrics of a song not only because the good rhyme they have, but also the emotion, empathy that you got from the content of the lyrics, well the melody sometimes also helps.
Now this is the style of the Qur’an, it is easy to memorise not only for children but also for adult, even more easier if you have spiritual and emotional relationship with the statement in it. Nowadays, every devoted muslims definitely memorise some parts of the qur’an. I my self memorise almost 3% of it, just simply with almost no efforts. Why? Because in our daily prayers (3 times a day at least) the leader of the prayer will repeatedly read the qur’an loudly. You might think, that the priest read the bible loudly but we never memorise them easily. That is one of the specialities of the Qur’an, we memorise it so easily. Well of course, some people can memorise much more than others but in general the simple chapter will be so easy to memorise.
Right now, some survey found out every single muslim, even if he is clearly not practising muslim, he will definitely will know a person who memorise the qur’an. As the muslims who memorise the qur’an are abundant. Therefore, even if you or we burn all the printed books of the qur’an, it can be reproduced back to the original version and printed again without any problem by recollecting all of the memory of the people who memorise it, and correcting each other if there are differences. This is the way Qur’an is preserved. So the printed version never ever been used by the muslims to preserve the Qur’an. It just printed to help us navigate and learn about it especially for the beginners.
While among the people who completely memorise the whole qur’an,they have a strong tradition to recheck (muroja’ah) of their memory of qur’an by read it loudly among themselves and correcting each other for one month each year, which is in the month of ramadhan.
This method of preservation is already in place since the beginning of the revelation, the prophet Muhammad will gather all the companions (they are already hundreds of them) to recheck their memory of Qur’an and correcting them if there are something difference or wrong. This is happens in Ramadhan, the whole month dedicated for this every year, for almost 10 years.
Meanwhile, many of them are also write it down on pieces that they could get. But none of them wrote the whole qur’an in book, despite from early time Qur’an is already called the kitab (literally means Book). While they feel, it is unnecessary to do that cause most of them memorise the whole qur’an by heart already.
However, after the prophet passed away. Abu Bakr fight a war with some groups or arabs, and in several cases many of the people who memorise the qur’an are died. Well, it was recorded around 70s died while many at least hundreds still alive. Umar propose to Abu Bakr to collect all the pieces where qur’an was wrote down as a complete book. Zaid did this Job, and he said (very famously) that this is the last piece where he found only to one person. Remember this is only the piece in written form, while the lyrics it self already memorise by many of them, or if you want to argue, at least the story itself already clear out that at least two person recognize and agree on it, Zaid and the Owner of that piece.
English in america, england, scottland, wales, and Ireland are all english but with different dialect. They understand each other in most cases, and the language still quickly and easily exchange between the natives. Qur’an was recited by the prophet in 7 different dialect of arabs. However, Umar did ask Zaid for the second time to rewrite all pieces into one compelling book and write it down in Quraish dialect. Afterwards, Uthman made five copies of that single copy made on the age of Abu Bakr and Umar and spread it out to many areas of the caliphate while instructing any other piece or copies must be destroyed cause it will cause confusion.
On this dialect version of qur’an remain with the muslims until today. How about the other dialect? Well we actually still have those qur’an on other dialect, and some of the people that memorise the qur’an they manage to memorise the complete qur’an in those seven dialects. And we know already that there are no significant difference in meaning between those dialects of qur’an.
So in the end of the day, I don’t know if all of these stories will provide evidence. Of course there are some extremists, but if you always bring them to discussion then you’ll never finish discuss everything. Lastly, that is the fact, that all muslims has no big disputes about the actual “lyric” of the qur’an and they can reproduce it even if no printed copies left for them to refer to and this way of preservation already in place since the first time qur’an recited..
And There's an estimate of more than 150 million people who have memorized Quran completely and our 6 years old kid memorized even though his language is not Arabic. Your bible scriptures have more than 70 books and The Bible has been translated from Greek manuscripts.
While the translation may be excellent, there is a problem: what are the limits of interpretation or interpolation of the translation compared to the limitations in the Greek, then to Aramaic?Since the Bible is not in the language that Jesus spoke, there has been human intervention in the Bible and it's changed. Mostly Christians don't even know Bible was revealed on jesus in hebrew
You do realize that to have 99.99999997% of a group of people, you would need 10 BILLION of those people.
also need to exclude kids
Actually its 10 Billion. You are off by a factor of a thousand. But either way, that's more Muslims than exist on the planet so you are correct in calling bullshit on him.
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no kids are muslims????
Nope. If You consider human population growth data (300 000 000 in 6th century 1000 000 000 we crossed in 1820 and 7 300 000 000 now - you can take all dates between from Wiki and extrapolate) and the % of muslims in total population (less than 1% till 700 AD, less than 5% till 1000 AD, less than 15% till 1800 and 19,2% now) You can calculate ammount of muslims in each generation and add it. The total number is arround 6 700 000 000 muslims ever lived. 0,00000003% of this is 2,01 persons :) Think more than 3 muslims EVER EXISTING have seen this :)
But in the video he says 99,9999997 % so there is a description error in thetitle. This meand that 4 currently living muslims knew this and 20 of ever existing :P
Baldy has lot his mind. Uthman was one of the earliest Muslims who migrated to Madina, gave ALL of his life savings to the cause of Islam. A Hafiz himself, he had memorized the Quran cover to cover. The Quran was written mainly on goat/camel skins, and compiled DURING the time of the Prophet. During Uthman time, he simply centralized it and disseminated it to different provinces of Islamic Empire.
uthman burned all other copies and let his version be distributed.abubaker uthman aisha knew that muhd was not a prophet but with the new religion they were getting recruit and cause to fight for allah free soldiers.and would also get continuous flow of wealtj from loot plunder even more free sex from captive women .check hadith and koran.wealth and women that is paradise hence even after death koran promises 1000 virgin women and mansion for those who die for allah and so their war cry and the verses to kill all non muslim.people in 100%islamic countries still not at peace as blood thisty allah than goes after muslim blood in these countries.where ever allah goes thereis destruction death and war stripe rape murder
All muslims was afraided by theory hell and heavan and became brainwashed slaves by muhammad(piss be upon him)
Alex Nicolao : Show us the Original koran that you said was compiled during the Lifetime of muHAMmad
IT IS SIMPLY NOT THERE.
Please know that the koran was somewhat compiled only 2 years after the death of muHAMmad and Uthman kept & propagated One Version and destroyed all the other because there were Hundreds of Koranic versions.
BUT NO ONE IS SURE IF THE UTHMAN VERSION IS THE ACCURATE ONE.
Pagan Moon God Allah couldn't protect his Scrptures
Don't know how many versions of Quran there are, but I have to smile when I hear of someone, anyone, memorizing an entire Quran (or at least the part left after a goat ate a generous portion) and then being able to quote what they have memorized, word for word, and with no help from the audience, and no mistakes. And being able to do that a month, a week, or even a day after memorizing (especially if arabic is not your native language).
You laugh but i know of several people, whose native language is NOT Arabic, yet they have memorized the Entire Quran cover to cover e.g. in Pakistan, India, Bangladesh, Indonesia, Malaysia, etc there are hundreds of thousands of Hufaz (Plural form of 'Hafiz' which is a title given to person who has memorized the entire Quran). Quran is written out mainly like several songs, rhyming and easy to remember. So, Quran is the ONLY religious book which cannot be changed, even if we wanted it to change.
04:09 How's the Quran different to the bible given that the Emperor Constantine oversaw what stories went into the bible when Christianity became the state religion of the Roman Empire?
I'm not a Christian, but I have to tell you that there is no proof that "Constantine oversaw what stories went into the Bible". It is a sort of a modern myth. However, Constantine did request that fifty Bibles be prepared. Look up "fifty Bibles of Constantine" if you're interested. Constantine asked that more legible, portable Bibles be made but you will find no evidence that he commented on what stories the Bible should or shouldn't contain.
BE SHEM ELAH HA RAHAMIM
In the name of God, the Most Gracious (Ezr.5:1; Dan.9:9)
T’HILAH L’ELOHEINU RIBOHN HA-OLAMIM
All praise be to God, Lord of the universe (Jewish liturgy)
HA RAHAMIM
The Most Gracious (Dan.9:9)
MELEK YOM HA DIN
Master of the Day of Judgment (Jewish terminology)
ELEKHA ADONAY EQARA WEEL ADONAY ET HANAN
To you, O Lord, I implore - and to my Lord, I seek help (Psalm 30:9)
ENI BE ORACH MISHOR
Guide us in the straight path (Psalm 27:11)
ALEKHET BE DEREHU WE LEYAREH ITTO
The way of life according to His path by reverencing Him (Deut 8:6)
LE HALAK BE ETSAH RISHAH WE LA SAGHAH
Not by the advice of the cursed, nor of the strayers (Psalm 119:21)
could you show me anywhere in the bible jesus is saying i am the god or everyone should worship me?
Uchiha Shisui Brother i believe bible is the saying of Esha peace be upon him(jesus) quoted by his companion's. And they never worshipped him but they follow his faith ie, the creator the almighty , after his death they never wore a cross never made a idol of him. This made me to think. From where it comes? And what about the prophets before Jesus? Do you worship them also??
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"I have seen in the comments, people are saying that islam is a terrorist religion and Mohammed is the founder and he spread islam by sword."
This is from an Islamic Apologist website: ten selected "prophecies" of Muhammed.
1) "Prophet Muhammad foretold the precise spot every pagan Meccan soldier would fall" (by the sword.... by the way)
2) Prophet Muhammad prophesized the Battle of the Confederates (al-Ahzab) would be the last invasion the tribe of Quraish (the pagan Meccans) would launch against the Muslims. It was fought in the fifth year of migration, 626 CE and was the last military conflict between the two sides. All Meccans embraced Islam after a few years.
(oh I wonder why that would be....?)
3) There are two prophecies in one: Fatima will outlive her father; Fatima will be the first member of his household to die after him.
(calling it a prophecy that a teenager might just outlive her aged father is a stretch, but .... )
4) Prophet Muhammad prophesized Jerusalem would be conquered after his death. (by the sword)
5) Prophet Muhammad prophesized the conquest of Persia. (by the sword)
6) Prophet Muhammad prophesized the conquest of Egypt (by the sword)
7) Prophet foretold confrontation with the Turks (with the sword)
8) Prophet foretold the first maritime battle to be undertaken by Muslims would be witnessed by Umm Haram, the first woman to participate in a naval expedition. He also prophesied the first assault on Constantinople.
(they probably had swords, but interestingly enough, he "fulfilled" this one, by bringing her along on his naval expedition, which is a bit like me prophesying that my daughter will have chocolate tomorrow and then buying her some chocolate)
9) The prophecy that Rome, Persia, and Yemen will be conquered was made during the Battle of Confederates (by the sword)
10) Prophet Muhammad prophesized an imposter claiming to speak in the name of God would be killed at the hands of a righteous man in Muhammad’s lifetime.
(So basically if ANYONE after Muhammed claims to be a prophet, this is a sure fire way to set them up for a fall and anyone who kills them as "righteous". In reality, it was all infighting and power struggle for control. In any case, he died.... by the sword)
So out of around 160 prophesies these are the ten examples CHOSEN - I didn't choose them - only ONE of them is a potentially non-violent (although there is a violent version of the story). 8 out of 10 are directly about battle - 6 of those are directly about conquest and 1 of them is about someone being killed for claiming to speak in the name of God during Muhammeds lifetime (which can both be arranged and would automatically have incurred a death penalty if even one person did it or was understood to have done it). Out of the 160 also the vast majority are regarding the conflicts and conquests of Islam with other nations or infighting. Immediately after Muhammeds death, the infighting began and continued for centuries afterward as did the conquests. Islam had nothing less than the "conquest" of the whole known world on the agenda.
This is the very foundation of Islam and the prophet spoke almost of nothing else but war - it is absolutely beyond dispute. So the very first "Muslim"s were about anything but "surrender". When Muslim apologists try to poke holes in the Old and New testaments, it is ridiculous because they are simply poking holes in texts which they also claim their religion is built upon, excepting that theirs are supposedly "pure" adaptations for the text of the Quran 600 years later. Muslims are even happier to point out that there Quran agrees quite heavily in places with "rediscovered" gnostic texts, seemingly oblivious to the fact this simply identifies the Quran more positively as a derived syncretic religious text combining only the elements of the Torah and vague agreement with selected prophets of the Tanakh and a new revision of Jesus life and teachings which aligns with the theology of the author of the Quran to forge yet another new religion which is neither Judaism, nor Christian yet contains elements of both.
I the First and End.I am God
Jesus is also ALLAH'S beliver &he is a muslim beyond that momin beyond that he is a prophet HAZRATH PROPHET ISA (JESUS ) ALAISSALAAM..
Show us the differences in original arabic text please, and I will explain to you the answer
There was a convention in Germany where they collected all of the copies of Quran from Himalaya, Europe, USA, Saudi Arabia and many other countries just to see if there is any deviation in writing. They were stunned to see that there was no deviation in writing meaning all the copies they collected were the same.
1 Quran, 1 God (Allah) it is the ultimate word of God (Allah) who created Heaven, Universe, Earth and what we see around us. God is the Almighty, no one created him, he has no son or daughter, he has no gender. Simply, the Creator cannot be a creation.
The psuedo-intellectual comments never cease to sadden me. How all these people in less than the space of one life time come to think so highly of themselves for having acquired such a tiny amount knowledge from some youtube videos and tv documentaries pass judgement and opine on a subject relating to many centuries of collective experience and dedicated learning is so far beyond my limited understanding I am tempted to appeal to a higher authority. Jesus is Great. Peace be upon him!
SteepSix you didn’t refute the video
Deceived people is also found in the Quran y'know!!!
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Interesting -I'm not surprised , since all religions culled from the final text(s), the memorized oral traditions , and interpretations of variations on a theme ,deemed politically problematic ,or contradictory of views accepted by the majority of the faithful, at the time of release of the final edited form, in order to consolidate and propagate the faith to lands, and peoples not yet proselytized to . An example from the Cristian tradition would be the Gnostic Gospels , which wold be unheard of ,if not discovered by happenstance , by a layman wandering into caves near Nag Hammadi Egypt , in 1945. A portion of the text was used as fire wood by the m of the discoverer.
As a reformed Christian myself, I'm quite intrigued as to why a self-proclaimed reformed theologian like James White would "subtly" flash the devil horns at the mark 1:38? I have noticed that no one has addressed this in the comments and I think it's rather interesting - actions speak louder than any well-developed debate argument. This fellow (James White) is a freemason, just as Steven Anderson et al.
I am a muslim scholar...and this is hugely empowering..the deviation in any meaning is nil...non conflicting and non contradictory...preservation as best humanly possible thru the early centuary..the core of the quran can be understood by almost anyone....even in english!!!!
You are joking! Time to move away from the perfectly preserved mantra. The cat is already out of the bag! 🎉
@@alphaomeyou’re a retard. How convenient that he says the killing blow to Muslims but doesn’t go debate it exactly as he said it…. Riiiight. I’ll tell you why genius, cuz they would mop the floor with him and he would be a laughing punchline and all this would only hurt the position of the Bible as uncorrupted book. Ask him to debate this and do this speech when a Muslim can reply to him. I guarantee you he wouldn’t ever do that. This coward intellectual midget and morally castrated snake 🐍
@@alphaome It's still perfectly preserved. You realize that the Prophet PBUH received the Quran in 7 different ahruf, don't you?
Non contradictory??!? Man, he literally brought up the verse that was contradictory. The difference between "will" and "will not" is pretty contradictory. Either way your quran is clearly not perfectly preserved..
@@travisanderson3920 Timestamp, please. Western academics and Quranic scholars are all unanimous now that the Quran is absolutely preserved. I'd love to look more into that claim of a contradiction.
Constantine called the early Christian Bishops together ( Council of Nicea ) to determine which books should be included in the Bible. Hence, the Book of Enock and many others were discarded from the official ' Canon ." So yes, there was an official collection, rejection and editing of the Bible.
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No authentic historical evidence agrees with that.🚮🚮🚮🚮🚮🚮🚮
I like how people try to convince other faiths and others that their god is better and others people god don’t exist
inna nahnu nazzalna zikra wa inna nahnu la hafizun (AL-HIJR AYAT 9)
99.9999997% of Christians don't understand what you're talking about))))
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I guess no one does...😊😂🤣
eddie sssss Sahih Bukhari book 21 Hadith 245
Narrated 'Abdullah : A person was mentioned before the Prophet -peace and blessings of Allah be upon him- and he was told that he had kept on sleeping till morning and had not got up for the prayer. The Prophet said, "Satan urinated in his ears."
eddie sssss
You took a poll of all Christians?
You can never take people who believe a demigod was murdered for there sins seriously, you require the blood of a innocent man to be saved (whilst you still sin, defeating the purpose of crucifixion) just as the pagans need blood to stop a drought.
One thing that puzzles me, with all this continuous government control, and with seven _government authorized_ copies sent to _seven provinces_ , surely there would still be an extant copy _somewhere_ . After all, this was the most holy book in the universe! This was Allah's very word, would it not have been protected and revered, at least like the American Independence documents? Those are 246 years-old, not nearly as old as the Quran is supposed to be, for sure, but still.
Good video, thanks!
Hear me out. There is convincing evidence that the quran hasn’t been tampered with for at least 300 years, so then why the hell was it able to refer to new scientific discoveries of a less than a few decades ago. Also the morals and teachings in the Quran are far more inline with human nature than any other religion. I feel like 2000 years later we can’t figure out any exact history from the scraps of info we have but we can judge for ourselves what’s right.
@@idioticoutburst4165 Okay, I heard you out and I have a few responses.
1. My comment wasn't about tampering, but asking why, with all this governmental, bureaucratic control, just _one_ of the original copies of the Uthmanic Qurans couldn't be preserved.
2. What "new scientific discoveries" would that be? I have heard many, if not all of them, and they all fall apart under scrutiny.
3. "the morals and teachings in the Quran are far more inline with human nature than any other religion"? I would agree in one sense, that the teachings of Islam DO FEED and encourage the natural, base, _sinful_ side of human nature, but that is precisely what Jesus Christ came to _save us from_ , not to encourage.
hahahaha had good laugh he is fucking lying oh m god