Also, could you do a Ziggs video anytime soon? I know he's relatively simple (supposedly) but I really struggle to do well with him, but I'd love to learn him better. Great video as always, my dude.
Bro I literally just finished Ad Kayle and you say how you’re gonna do an AP video next and I go onto your channel and there’s the video uploaded 40 minutes ago I love it🥲
the ap scaling buff you mention happened a while ago, the recent change to her ult also included reverting that ap buff, and reduced ap scaling on r. still ,the ult buff did make her op now.
Have you tried nashors straight into deathcap? The magic damage on hit from maxed E by the time you can finish deathcap is hitting harder than riftmaker 2nd. The sustain then gets bought next for the late game
Did you only go cull as you are vs melee? What starting items would you suggest for diff matchups, like ranged or hard to farm matchups? Great commentary by the way!
I am trying to get into League. Why the swifties over atk spd boots? Is the movement speed a bigger boost overall than the attack speed? Or is specifically for the Kayle tryndamere matchup do to Tryn kit?
Movement speed is pretty big and mitigating slows is also really helpful. She also doesn't need to be 100% offensive. Her late game damage is more than enough to carry.
@@jeffbridgessalt40 thank you for the insight. I have been playing Kayle as I get more familiar with the game and had always seen berserker greaves as first item. This makes a lot of sense.
Yo can you do a video on a new kindred build? Stormrazot into gale force works for her or her other build which is kraken into divine sundere so th attack speed boots. If you need me or played steelcap boots then go phantom dancer next
It's just not worth to build Guinsoo over Riftmaker. Play with both builds guys and you will see how much better Riftmaker feels because you have healing and HP and don't lose any damage compared to Nashor Guinsoo. You might see Kayle streamers going wacky builds now for videos but make no mistake, Nashor Riftmaker is the best (AP) build for Kayle atm. There is also the option to build AD and tank mythic now. Bork - Kraken - Iceborn/Jak'Sho - Wit's End currently underrated and very strong build for AD Kayle. You can have all your attack speed DPS items with a tank Mythic now. Vs AD teams it's completely broken because you can have Iceborn and GA/Zhonya while still having hypercarry dps. Bork steals MS from enemy, constant slows with Qs and Iceborn procs - very difficult to deal with a Kayle like that Building Guinsoo is noobtrap because you are too squishy and with no healing to stay there and ramp up that Guinsoo dps, you get more DPS out of having HP and healing to stay in lane and fights longer. It's not like it's fundamentally bad or something, it's just not better than other builds.
Good vid. Try going shiv after Rabadons. The healing on the empowered autos is amazing (if you auto a full wave). It also does a ton of champ dmg in team fights.
not worth you will get popped too easily now I know ppl like to imagine builds as full builds but that's not what a build is, a build is two core items and that's all with nashors rageblade as your first items you do damage but you are squishy and have no healing or movement speed, that's all you have, damage with nashor riftmaker you have damage but you also have HP and healing and suddenly you are much stronger if you are gonna go rageblade build BoRK first so you have the kiting passive and lifesteal on top of just damage full damage guinsoo build only does more dmg than rift build on dummies, that's pure math pure math doesn't take into account that because you have no bonus hp and no type of healing, your opportunities to sit there and auto attack before you get bursted into ulting are much less
I hate Riftmaker. I acknowledge that it’s objectively the better item but I absolutely hate it. I didn’t buy it before and I probably won’t buy it now. I much prefer having a really high attack speed than having more potent hits. They will hit plenty hard even without the rift.
@@zackwiver I havent seen him go lower and Ive been checking his accounts on most of the videos. But yes, he starts at ~g4 and plays up through p3 on an account and then roles a new one. This game has three s1 and four g4, so this match is right between s1 and g4 which is top 38% of the players. His last kayle ad video was vs g1 p3 p4 g3 p4 and when you look at the g3 they are clearly smurfing as the acc only has 20 games on it. so I'd say that's a g1 to p4 mmr lobby, esp since he had two p3's on his team. p4 is top 14% of players g1 is top 17% of players. Personally, I think to be a noob you've gotta be in the bottom 30% (b1), maybe if I felt like being a jerk I'd say bottom 50%(s3). But if you define everyone outside of masters as a noob that would be 99.43% of the player base. He used to do this in norms and those could be pretty low, but he swapped over to doing it in rank and it honestly looks indistinguishable. He swapped over a month or so ago, so I've been checking the accs for a while lol but granted, I don't do it on all of them. Just most of them
Kayle has so little armor that any dirk rush is just devastingnto kayle. I take notice of most players rushing dirk and counter with 300G cloth armor, it’s pretty effective.
You using E wrong, if the fight wont be longer than E cooldown u waiting with the skill till the enemy have low hp because it is dealing demage from missing health
nashors, rift, deathcap has been her best build for a while. you can literally swap anything out for your last items, whether ap/ad, and it doesn’t matter. i always go those 3, rylai’s and ga usually. also, no need to go fleet, pta/LT will always be better. fleet is obviously good for early game, but if ur goated with her, no need.
This tryd was low elo and little champ knowledge, not sure why he didn’t take ignite v kayle, didn’t enjoy this video would love to see some stuff at higher elo
Saying 73% wr when you're playing on a silver 1 account is disingenuous af tbh. 73% wr what? from iron to S1? Attack speed build is still better than this. Get a botrk 3rd/4th item and u have sustain.
the real playing was your game knowledge. poor trynd was clearly not as well informed as you. i know that's not your fault, but it's very clear that you took strong advantage of that over him. Can't claim your build is OP if you're simply better than them anyway lmao
It has one counter: early game before lvl 6
just pick nasus
Tbf until lvl 11 any champ with gap closer just smashes her easily
Nautilus + zhonyas + burst champion
Her counter is irelia, like game is completely unplayeable without the jungler
how about sylas? He rekt me on top a week ago. That was hard, I lost :((
The only thing you miss out on by going cull over D item is the health. It’s probably more optimal to go Cut Down if you start cull because of that.
4:20 leaving a Giant wave crash 💪
Guess he was stoned :>
Also, could you do a Ziggs video anytime soon? I know he's relatively simple (supposedly) but I really struggle to do well with him, but I'd love to learn him better. Great video as always, my dude.
Bro I literally just finished Ad Kayle and you say how you’re gonna do an AP video next and I go onto your channel and there’s the video uploaded 40 minutes ago I love it🥲
These videos are very informative as a jungler! Helps me plan my games more, thank you Kingstix!
the ap scaling buff you mention happened a while ago, the recent change to her ult also included reverting that ap buff, and reduced ap scaling on r. still ,the ult buff did make her op now.
9:33 Oh no... Anyway
I’ve been loving all these kayle gameplays
King, can you try make Asol jg work?
Have you tried nashors straight into deathcap? The magic damage on hit from maxed E by the time you can finish deathcap is hitting harder than riftmaker 2nd. The sustain then gets bought next for the late game
that has no sende trust me
I don't even play LoL anymore but your vids are fun to watch
Did you only go cull as you are vs melee? What starting items would you suggest for diff matchups, like ranged or hard to farm matchups? Great commentary by the way!
I am trying to get into League. Why the swifties over atk spd boots? Is the movement speed a bigger boost overall than the attack speed? Or is specifically for the Kayle tryndamere matchup do to Tryn kit?
Movement speed is pretty big and mitigating slows is also really helpful. She also doesn't need to be 100% offensive. Her late game damage is more than enough to carry.
@@jeffbridgessalt40 thank you for the insight. I have been playing Kayle as I get more familiar with the game and had always seen berserker greaves as first item. This makes a lot of sense.
Could this be played Mid?
Any new aatrox build on new patch ?
Yo can you do a video on a new kindred build? Stormrazot into gale force works for her or her other build which is kraken into divine sundere so th attack speed boots. If you need me or played steelcap boots then go phantom dancer next
Makes me want to try to learn top, or maybe force it jg lol
Can u do a nocturne vid plz??? Either assassin or fighter build
@9:33 bruh, I was screaming ZED ZED ZED ZED ZED lolol 😂
Why did you use the way old kayle portrait in your vid thumbnail?
It's just not worth to build Guinsoo over Riftmaker. Play with both builds guys and you will see how much better Riftmaker feels because you have healing and HP and don't lose any damage compared to Nashor Guinsoo.
You might see Kayle streamers going wacky builds now for videos but make no mistake, Nashor Riftmaker is the best (AP) build for Kayle atm.
There is also the option to build AD and tank mythic now. Bork - Kraken - Iceborn/Jak'Sho - Wit's End currently underrated and very strong build for AD Kayle. You can have all your attack speed DPS items with a tank Mythic now. Vs AD teams it's completely broken because you can have Iceborn and GA/Zhonya while still having hypercarry dps. Bork steals MS from enemy, constant slows with Qs and Iceborn procs - very difficult to deal with a Kayle like that
Building Guinsoo is noobtrap because you are too squishy and with no healing to stay there and ramp up that Guinsoo dps, you get more DPS out of having HP and healing to stay in lane and fights longer.
It's not like it's fundamentally bad or something, it's just not better than other builds.
"Has no counter" until I take it into ranked and still lose 😂
I would call that a skill issue lmao
What do you do when laning against a Malphite?
Can't outrun him, can't react to his ult.
Doran shield , fleet ,presense of mind , second wind , rush null magic cloak , put 2 points in W , and just chill
What else would you build after those?
Good vid. Try going shiv after Rabadons. The healing on the empowered autos is amazing (if you auto a full wave). It also does a ton of champ dmg in team fights.
I didnt see any match history to see the 73% wr on AP "Kele"
why did you take presence of mind instead of triumph in this game
Love your vidios keep it up ❤
Do nashors>rageblade>berserker boots>rabbadon>stormrazer> staticshive. 1200-1500 dmg autos 1700 dmg e's
not worth you will get popped too easily
now I know ppl like to imagine builds as full builds but that's not what a build is, a build is two core items and that's all
with nashors rageblade as your first items you do damage but you are squishy and have no healing or movement speed, that's all you have, damage
with nashor riftmaker you have damage but you also have HP and healing and suddenly you are much stronger
if you are gonna go rageblade build BoRK first so you have the kiting passive and lifesteal on top of just damage
full damage guinsoo build only does more dmg than rift build on dummies, that's pure math
pure math doesn't take into account that because you have no bonus hp and no type of healing, your opportunities to sit there and auto attack before you get bursted into ulting are much less
I hate Riftmaker. I acknowledge that it’s objectively the better item but I absolutely hate it. I didn’t buy it before and I probably won’t buy it now. I much prefer having a really high attack speed than having more potent hits. They will hit plenty hard even without the rift.
I’ve added in static build
i still prefer lethal, because now you can actually auto in ult you gain so much value from it
Do any commenters (or kingstix) know where he gets the winrate figures from for these builds?
"Yo, what's going on guys?"-- Not sure how i'm supposed to answer a video that starts with an open question greeting.
Oh yes, king stomping some noobs… sensational…
His games range from g4 to p3 opps depending on what acc he is on. Sure it's not masters but it's better than the average player
@@ggShini This game is silver, way below average. So were all of his latest games I checked.
@@zackwiver odd, we are seeing 2 different things. You are looking at his opponents rank right?
@@ggShini This game specifically is Gold 4 to Silver 3. I've seen much lower so it's really just stomping noobs
@@zackwiver I havent seen him go lower and Ive been checking his accounts on most of the videos. But yes, he starts at ~g4 and plays up through p3 on an account and then roles a new one. This game has three s1 and four g4, so this match is right between s1 and g4 which is top 38% of the players. His last kayle ad video was vs g1 p3 p4 g3 p4 and when you look at the g3 they are clearly smurfing as the acc only has 20 games on it. so I'd say that's a g1 to p4 mmr lobby, esp since he had two p3's on his team. p4 is top 14% of players g1 is top 17% of players.
Personally, I think to be a noob you've gotta be in the bottom 30% (b1), maybe if I felt like being a jerk I'd say bottom 50%(s3). But if you define everyone outside of masters as a noob that would be 99.43% of the player base.
He used to do this in norms and those could be pretty low, but he swapped over to doing it in rank and it honestly looks indistinguishable. He swapped over a month or so ago, so I've been checking the accs for a while lol but granted, I don't do it on all of them. Just most of them
Why did you not back after you had enough gold to buy Nash? You had just killed the trynd and had a freeze set up
Wait where are you seeing a 73% wr I cant find anything like that anywhere
I always pick kassadin vs Kayle and it's easy 1shot
i played against a kayle with a build like this after the 4th death she went afk (i was using youmus sett)
Kayle has so little armor that any dirk rush is just devastingnto kayle. I take notice of most players rushing dirk and counter with 300G cloth armor, it’s pretty effective.
@@ericnewton5720 untill they fully build youmus then the true fun begins cant outrun sett and he deals a ton of dmg
What about staticshiv on an ap build?
So just normal kayle build lol
Oh my god didnt see that one xddd
I'm on ghost extensions
18min trynda 63cs this is iron elo game?
You using E wrong, if the fight wont be longer than E cooldown u waiting with the skill till the enemy have low hp because it is dealing demage from missing health
A good advice for you : free the camera
AP Kell is so good
Man I main nasus, I destroy every kayle in my way any day
Are you play vs iron
Kayle is not broken. She loses to most matchups if the other player is smart. Plus we don't know what rank you are even playing in this game.
Play AP Cho into it, counters her hard
Cho I generally rush boots to best avoid the Q knockups. Staying mobile prevent most of cho’s kill pressure
Coop vs ia
I feel like Rylai's could be broken on her
nashors, rift, deathcap has been her best build for a while. you can literally swap anything out for your last items, whether ap/ad, and it doesn’t matter. i always go those 3, rylai’s and ga usually. also, no need to go fleet, pta/LT will always be better. fleet is obviously good for early game, but if ur goated with her, no need.
oh ❤😊😂🙆
kayle definitely not in your main pool ,i can seee that
So...the same Kayle build people have been running for years?
It's Kayle, not Kell.
My eyes xdddd
Who is Kell? 💀
This tryd was low elo and little champ knowledge, not sure why he didn’t take ignite v kayle, didn’t enjoy this video would love to see some stuff at higher elo
The way this guy pronounces Kayle is so frustrating 😂
That trynda was pretty bad. Trynda really hard couters kayle
her ap scaling got nerfed, not buffed
Ahri building crown against a zed tells me everything I need to know. Stomping noobs in lobsterlow. Nice.
Saying 73% wr when you're playing on a silver 1 account is disingenuous af tbh. 73% wr what? from iron to S1? Attack speed build is still better than this. Get a botrk 3rd/4th item and u have sustain.
Thằng trym làm diễn viên hã 😂
Bro had to flex the four honors… that’s when u know he rarely gets that. Couldn’t be me personally tbh
Salty? Don’t carry games much?
i suggest not making guide videos on silver games while ure minimum diamond
the real playing was your game knowledge. poor trynd was clearly not as well informed as you. i know that's not your fault, but it's very clear that you took strong advantage of that over him. Can't claim your build is OP if you're simply better than them anyway lmao
I prefer rageblade still. On hit is nice