The Football Club Run By A War Criminal
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- Опубліковано 20 тра 2022
- Only three teams have been crowned as Serbian champions since the breakup of Yugoslavia in 1992; Partizan Belgrade, Red Star Belgrade, and FK Obilić.
Whilst Partizan and Red Star have long been two of the biggest and most successful teams in the region, Obilić came out of nowhere in the 1990s, bankrolled by a notorious warlord who was wanted by Interpol.
In this documentary, HITC Sevens takes a look at one of the most controversial football clubs, and one of the most contentious league titles, of all time, along with Željko Ražnatović - better known as Arkan - who was the man behind that success. - Спорт
When Obilić was gaining traction and progressing through the ranks of Yugoslav football in 1993 or 1994 (can't remember exactly), it played against my hometown club in second division (1B Liga it was called then). The ref added 17 minutes to the game, namely until Obilić managed to score a goal for a 1:0 win. Not to mention that the refs had to leave town accompanied by a police escort after that.
Damn that's grim.
Shocking,absolutely shocking,good friend Drunken.Master!!!
🎶moj je tata, zločinac iz rata 🎶
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Sounds like every match teams from Athens play every week in Greece. Esp Olympiakos, Pansthinaikos.
We are doomed man. We'll never progress in society. Balkans will always be Balkans.
At this point the person that runs this account should be considered a journalist. The quality of these ‘documentaries’ is always top notch, and covers underexposed topics. Appreciate the work that goes into these!
I think he is considered so
After Obilic got relegated to lower tears they actually ended up in the same league as the club from my home town, where I was a player. It was 7th or 8th tear back then, not entirely sure. Considering we usually played on small, poorly kept pitches it was quite an experience for us playing the game on their stadium.
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Fun fact, in '90s you could buy any pirated music in streets exept Arkans wife. Nobody dared to sell that.
she was a smoke show back in the day.
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My house in Belgrade is like 2 minutes away from Obilic stadium, and let me tell you, Belgrade has become really modern and beautiful city but every time i walk past that stadium it gives you such a 90s vibe, its a strange type feeling.
My suggestion finally made it. Great video Alfie, we need more videos about clubs from former Yugoslavia so people outside of this region can get a look of all things wrong with football in the Balkans
Great suggestion!
Never would have thought a football story could be this extreme!
the balkans are infested with westerners and americans, that's also part of our problem. We are part of NATO and all other shit organizations that don't bring us any benefits but we bleed human lives, and riches that are siphoned out of our countries to the ultra rich and ultra powerful monstrosities in america, russia, germany, netherlands or wherever. It's been like this for centuries now. My country, Romania, always craved by the russians and americans alike, I've read somewhere that 15-20% of our lands are already in the hands of foreigners (dutch, germans, americans, russians, etc). Soon, we will be kicked out of our lands so that these vultures can enjoy our women, our riches, and our fresh air. This has been a problem with our Balkans and until we, Romanians, keep Romania to ourselves, Serbians keep Serbia to themselves, Bulgarians keep Bulgaria to themselves and so on... until we keep our lands and reign of the country in our own hands and share the wealth among us, Balkans we will never have peace, education, science, health, good living standards, and... football. Football in the Balkans, like everywhere else, is a result of a nation's prosperous economy and happy people. In late 80s and early 90s when Romania had still not been fully predated by the russian, hungarian, and american monsters yet we and Bulgarians produced great fooballers. Our great footballer Gheorghe Popescu captained Barcelona, for Christ's sake, and Hristo Stoichkov needs no introduction anymore. Our Gheorghe Hagi was carrying Real Madrid to glory in late 80s, and everyone knew players like Krasimir Balakov or Emil Kostadinov, so what are we even talking about?
And I know that I didn't mention Serbia or Croatia in this comment but that's because these 2 nations have always produced quality players over the decades, so they're pretty good footballing nations, but so are we and Bulgarians are everyone else in this region. It's just that we're not let to live and enjoy peace so we can take care of tooball and sports in general because the global mafia that lives off small countries in general, and Balkanic / eastern European countries in particular want us constantly poor, uneducated, lazy and bleeding so they can rip us easier. Sad, really....
@@Dave-Shearer Welcome to the Balkans lad
I'd like a video about Hrvatski Dragovoljac and the controversial, the man, the mith, the legend Spajic.
Day 3 - The Fall and Rise of FK Velež Mostar
From a Club that has beaten Borussia Dortmund, Twente, Derby County and many others to a club that was forced from their own stadium, reduced to nothing during the Bosnian War, becoming a mediocre top-level team in the 00s to nearly being forced into folding in 2016 to its amazing rise back to the top-level football which culminated in return to Europe after 33 years which has seen elimination of Coleraine before a suprising win over AEK Athens before exiting 3rd Round against Elfsborg IF and recently continuing with the Bosnia and Herzegovina Cup win this season which has ensured another European summer next season
Can i suggest the rise and fall of Bursaspor after the winning the league over a decade a go, they’ve now been relegated from the second division
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i remember Bursaspor also going to Champions League etc
What happened to them?
Damn. I remember reading about their success and planned stadium back then but had forgotten about them. Crazy to see them crash so quickly.
Has anyone ever told u ur videos are the absolute best hangover content?
Everton and Hermannstadt, interesting combo...
My coach who played for Buducnost Podgorica played against Obilic right before they played in the ucl, and Arkan came to their dressing room and said to the Buducnost players not to tackle his players because they played in the ucl soon so his player don't get injured. After my coach heard that he tackled them anyways and got a red card, so after the game Arkan cane up to him and said that he is not mad at him because he was the only one that has balls.
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I remember talking to a guy from my small town who used to play for Obilic... Before he joined Obilic he was playing for the local club... And then there was a home game against Obilic, and he was dismantling them, but not really knowing who owns the club, and Arkan was spectating that game... Obilic lost that game 2-1 and Arkan was quick to point to him, saying "I want that guy on my team... ". The guy didn't have much choice but to join Obilic, since you don't say no to Arkan...😆 He joined Obilic out of fear, mostly...
This is actually amazing, I currently play for FK Obilic but in Montenegro and my Coach is the former striker of that Obilic team
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You know, the relationship between Russian president Valdimir Putin and Chechen leader Ramzan Kadyrov is eerly similar to that between Slobodan Milosevic and Željko 'Arkan' Ražnatović if you think about it. As if history is repeating itself, but only with different charracters filling the roles.
humans were, are and gonna be shitty
As Brits say: "BOLLOCKS!"
I wouldnt dicount Prigozhin,too.
I was present (although just a kid) on my local team's stadium, when Obilić won the game 1:0, but the weird thing is that the referee blew his whistle for end in 78th minute of the game. That was Yugoslavia's first division football. People say that when the locals confronted the referee about this, he reportedly told them: "It's better for me to be killed by you, than by Arkan".
Fast forward into 2020s, Svetlana Ražnatović is STILL the most popular media figure, she has sold out concerts wherever she goes, and is an idol to serbian youth. Her and Arkan's son Veljko, is now a gangster, and his wedding was broadcasted on national television. That's for you to know that the Balkans never overcame the horrible 90s.
Lmao the son is surely following his father's footsteps
Some things never change
Theres so many crazy arkan stories. He was apparently connected to Serbian intelligence which explains some of the ways he mysteriously was slipped a gun and able to escape jail and be extracted out of the country. When he was tried in Serbia for assault he just walked up and put a folder that showed his massive mansion compound was payed for by the intelligence agency and the judge just dropped the case. The footage of arkans wedding is pretty crazy
Wow 😮
Arkan son isnt a gangster he would run a muck in other countries but then he pulled his head in and now devoting his life to boxing
Just a quick correction, Zoran Đinđić was the prime minister of Serbia. Great video, always wanted to see a foreign perspective on both Arkan and Obilić.
Fun fact 1: There has been an interesting rivalry between Arkan's newly found Obilić and already existing Mladi Obilić back in the early '90s. Arkan had a team and a "vision" but lacked the necessary facilities. One day, he showed up to latter team's owner office and gave him an offer he couldn't refuse. Long story short, he was forced to sell at gunpoint.
Fun fact 2: one of Arkan's most devoted disciples (if not the most) has gone on to lead a city of Jagodina for 18 years and counting, an eponymous football club by proxy for some time which saw them playing final round of Europa League qualifiers multiple times and is now being accused of statutory rape and running a sex ring while being active in mayoral position, bearing great similarities to Jeffrey Epstein. Just so you know that the cycle of scornful actions is yet to be broken.
Fun fact 3: the club was a money laundering scheme from the get-go. Arkan's almost-as- repulsive widow was sentenced during the early '00s, along with her sister Lidija and her BF, leading to club's ultimate downfall. The media later sanctified her for being a victim of a witch hunt and cross she bore just for being a criminal's wife. Oddly, she was soon to be seen as the MP as the member of Democratic Party of Serbia.
Fun fact 4: due to being a supporter of aforementioned party, she was given an informal amnesty for concealing arms used in an attempted coup by Arkan's buddies.
Fun fact 5: Serbian FA is yet to elect a president after a year of limbo induced by ousting the former president who was introduced to football by his boss and our present dictator. He was previously a photographer and president's bodyguard.
Otherwise, great video! The sorry state of football in the region could be a never ending source of inspiration.
You never get that in Football Manager do you?
bravo
Those facts ARE fun! All that fun, still going on the in the former Yugoslavia region.
I guess not fun facts for the victims of sex slavery
As a Serbian it is highly entertaining to read this haha!
Bravo za komentar 👍
Really great to see you make videos on Serbian football, even if the topic isn't exactly positive! Really well researched and unbiased, which a lot of foreigners doing videos on Yugoslavia struggle with.
Some things I think people who watched will find fun:
Soon after Arkan died, Obilić were knocked out of Intertoto Cup by Cibalia, a minor Croatian team
Arkan's wife, Ceca, is still a major star in the Balkans. She's even one of the most popular singers in Croatia and Bosnia, despite her direct involvement in war crimes there
Only some very minor mistakes- you say several times that SSJ became the Radical Party but really they were an incredibly minor party which merged into the Radicals due to lack of electoral success. Radicals themselves are struggling now as well, losing ground to more western style far right parties like POKS, Oathkeepers who take inspiration more from Putin, Orban and Republicans than the more traditional Serbian nationalists. Oh and there's also Leviathan, a a Neo-Nazi animal rights party led by a Jewish man ( no, really. Serbian far right was always wild). Also, Zoran Đinđić, who was assassinated by Arkan's former allies was our Prime Minister, not President as you said
I have to reiterate that I really enjoyed the video, I hope you do more on Balkan and Serbian football someday- an overview of the Eternal Derby and the constant back and forth accusations of match fixing and stolen titles could be fun, as would the machinations of Tončev brothers in Radnički Niš and Radnik Surdulica, or the rise of the Hungarian minority TSC
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Hello!
I realise your comment & this video is over a year old but I had to add to it.
I recently visited Serbia and saw Red Star play TSC (2nd May 2024).
I was surprised at the lack of supporter turnout / general fan support on the night of the game although the Red Star ultras were there in their hundreds.
It rained heavily throughout the game which made me think that this was a metaphor for what Serbian football has become.
Nevertheless I enjoyed my visit to Serbia, the Balkans are a special place ❤️
Random fun fact: back in Yugoslavia there was a team called FK Milicionar (in English: F. C. Policeman) which was run by the Ministry of Internal Affairs.
A futsal club exists in Nevesinje as KMF Policijac (same name) and they use to play in the Futsal Premier League of BiH
That is nothing new in eastern bloc football. Serbian FC Partizan was military club, so were CSKAs both in Bulgaria and SSSR. Lokomotiva Moscow is (as you can guess) was sponsored by transportation ministry.
@@penzlic And FK Crvena Zvezda is UDBA intelligence service club.
FK Milicionar = Rangers FC
About the only amusing tale you could connect with this happened in Italian football. Lazio's extreme right wing ultras at a game displayed a banner ' Lazio salutes Arkan the Tiger', a couple of weeks later, Torino's notoriously left leaning Fans responded with their own banner ' Torino salutes Sylvester the Cat'
What Lazio's fans had to do with Arkan?
@@serbianwarrior385 right wingers glorifying a war criminal
@@serbianwarrior385 Most likely because the Lazio fans are far right wing and Arkan was far right wing
@@serbianwarrior385Lazio fans fantasize about being Nazis, which is so strange that anyone would want that considering the Nazis and Mussolini’s eventual fate. I mean if Lazio fans want to take on basically the whole world in a war that they’ll inevitably lose, why deny them what they want if it means they disappear for good.
Comments section: " do a video on the seed cultivation techniques used for the pitches in the Turkmenistan 2nd Division"
The FK Zeleznik 1930 (the Lions) were ran by a criminal as well. They're also from belgrade and in 10 years went from winning the cup of Serbia in Montenegro in 2005 to shutting down completely.
Serbian here, this is gonna be fun one lol.
Thanks Alfie
This was an interesting story. I remember seeing FK Obilic in FIFA 99.
Hey Alfie you should make a video about Oletul Galati and how they went from Champions League nights against Manchester United to being fan owned in the Romanian 3rd tier
Sounds fascinating! As a United fan I had no idea about their trajectory
Now they’re in 2nd tier
To ad some honesty to former Obilic players, many of them had succesful European carriers afterwards. For example midfilders Vukomanovic, Juskic, Grozdic and Sarac played for 1st Belgian league-Standard Liege, Bundesliga side-Nurnberg, 1st dutch divison-Vitesse and Ligue 1-Lens and Austria's Sturm Graz respectively. That somewhat proves that these were good players, lifted from Serbian 2nd division and proved themselves with Obilic giving them a shot when no other club wanted so.
I watched Obilić play Bayern Munchen c. 1998 - crazy stuff really. I seem to recall the first match Id seen was them vs IFK Keflavik.
Phenomenal video yet again, Alfie. You’ve gotten me fascinated with the world of soccer with your story telling and research, along with your willingness to get political
Have you thought about uploading your videos to Spotify as podcasts as well? Most of the time when watching your videos I have my phone in the pocket listening to it as a podcast instead of watching. It is not difficult, in fact easy to upload it to e.g. Spotify as well as UA-cam.
In the long run I believe you could grow your listener/watcher base further by uploading to different platforms. From what I`ve seen I believe Spotify pays better than UA-cam per view as well.
As always great video, I will keep watching no matter what. Have a great weekend!
Probably comes down to HITC to decide unfortunately
@@jamesnorthcote3718 Yep, but hopefully we can convince him!
@@jamesnorthcote3718 What does the "HITC" actually stands for?
@@Darwinek here is the city
Thank you for making this video so much Alfie
Keep it up Alfie, love your top tier documentaries
Whole country of Serbia is just controversial in general lol
Unfortunately the whole region is...hopefully time will wash the filth from this beautiful region in the future.
@@jsproduction3839 @Chris Schaller Look at you two clueless about your own backyard and how the world is being hierarchically ruled for millennia... What, for you "fine gentleman" is East India Company?
@@bojanbabovic111 Fam get a grip. I was talking about all the remaining war criminals, clans, gangs... I really want this region to be better bc I know it can't be perfect.
@@jsproduction3839 Including denazification of Croatian, Bosnian, Albanian nations. Nowadays Montenegro as well. Restoring the only sovereign entity in history, that was independent from all influences in the Balkans, that is serbian entity. At all costs
AND WE ARE PROUD OF IT🇷🇸
i used to hang out with my friends in obilic's then abandoned stadium all the time, but just ocasionally there were guards and we would always joke how arkan is still alive and some of his men are gonna snipe us lol. we were pretty annoyed when it got renovated.
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With the time difference, I'm just sitting down to me morning cuppa! Today's HITC Sevens outing looks to be the perfect accompaniment lol...Cheers Alfie! Love these Documentary works...
I literally live in the same street as their stadium 😅
Oh and.. screw Arkan...
Seriously. I know this is a football channel and he shouldn't go into just how evil Arkan was, but seriously, he is one of the most evil humans to ever exist.
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The level of research you do is out of this planet.
Being Serbian myself, who remembers part of that time as a child back then and listening to stories and researching myself, you came to the same stuff as I did, but being away in UK.
That's just crazy!
Never stop making this video.
Oh yes, one mistake in the video...
Arkan is still alive in Cyprus, murder was staged.
Loving the conspiracy stuff from the Balkans. Did you know that Tito was in fact a Soviet clone and the true Tito died in the russian civil war?
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@@myowngenesis Nope. He was bastard son of emperor Franz Joseph. One of many. Served the purpose as quadruple, five time agent and assassin. The one i am referring to is actually 4th "TITO" which in fact is an abbreviation, meaning Secret International Terrorist Organisation.
@@bojanbabovic111 thanks for proving my point. I don't believe it, but I won't hold it against you if you do
@@myowngenesis There's nothing to "believe". Proven to the detail.
Great as usual, Alfie. I'm starting to think you play a 6 degrees of Hull City game to figure out your next topic. Keep those references coming in the form of such great content.
Brilliant to learn more about Arkan. He is a name that pops every so often in context to Lazio and the Irriducibili who are part the subject of a thesis I'm working on. The Irriducibili would make for an excellent video in their own right given their history and consant controversy.
Excellent video. Was in Bosnia during the late 90s and he and his wife were very famous.
You got almost everything correct
Only one little mistake
Arkan is alive in Cyprus
Public secret.
Any evidence for this?
Just wanted to write. No one in their sane mind would ever kill that man, he was that dangerous.
@@archstanton6102 It's a meme/conspiracy theory in Serbia.
Joint rolled and a 30 min documentary thank you Alfie!
It might be well documented, but I’d be interested to learn more about the Partizan - Red Star rivalry, and if anyone can teach us about it, you’re the man we all turn to.
First rate documentary. I remember monitoring the wars at work. I never thought about a football perspective though. Fascinating
I suggested this like a year ago, and was suggesting it daily for like a week. Finally.
Geez I love these videos when Alfie digs deep to research on info we don't even know about other dark side of our beautiful game.Did not know about this Club,now I do coz of this great football channel.
i love it when you drop this kind of videos
I read about him in Franklin Foer's book years ago. The story of Arkan and Obilic was always surreal almost mythical...
Day 29: Considering that the last player who played in the miracle of Bern died about 6 months ago, I would really like to see a video about the whole story between Germany and Hungary, especially because it meant so much to at least the German population
Brilliant video mate! Can I suggest a video on the rise and fall of Gretna FC, They went from the 4th division of Scottish football to the premiership from 2004 to 2008 and then were liquidated weeks after being relegated in 2008.
HOW IS MY SERBIAN EDIT?🇷🇸
Well researched video.
Another banger documentary.
Edit: bloody hell.
Highly impressed by how well you covered this. All poor pronunciations are completely forgiven!
Hot takes win the battle, but useful information win the war. Well done Alfie, always been a fan of your content.
Great video, nice to see someone making videos on Serbian football
Cheers for the great documentary research!
Cheers Wolf, very kind of you!
The "3 different national teams" Savo Milosevic represented are actually one same national team that simply changed name 3 times just as his country did.
Never been this early on your vids, hope it's a Good one
Day 11: Best XI who never played in the world cup (excluding those who played before the first world cup in 1930)
The Hull City reference was fantastic. I was really wondering how you were going to fit it in this episode
Yessss , i was waiting for you to do this
Fascinating young man,much enjoyed
Great research. I'll never fully understand Balkan politics, but this is another helpful addition.
Good video Alfie 😊
Great video
This channel is top 5
Brilliant as ever
These documentary are the best thing in UA-cam and when Alfie exploded in popularity it will be because of these, he should be working for a too studio tbh
Could also make a video with the same title about Real Madrid & General Franco in the 1950s
Just with the mention of this being a "podcast" episode, While I appreciate the effort of imaging searching is there scope for episodes to be released as podcasts? Could be handy while out for a stroll.
I live 500m from their stadium. Never thought I'd see two of my local clubs in HITC video, though.
Obilic and "if ever a title deserved an asterisk next to it" made me laugh because Obelix, Asterix, etc. Well done ... with the joke and the whole video.
My favourite class of the week!
Interestingly enough that the club Obilic and Sindjelic both are next door to the infamous CZ(Central prison) which is like Belmarsh in the UK.
You need to do an video about Gaz metan. I've heard alot about them and what has happend to them is just tragic.
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As a big Ceca fan, I'm really surprised to know all that lore for her. Kudos for your research Alfie.
J in Delije is not spoken like G or J in English but like Y in York (city).
This might be the longest introduction Alfie
You Should Do A Video On FC Alania Vladikavkaz. In 1995 The Won The Russian Premier Leauge, And Now They Are A Phoneix Club In The Second Division Of Russian Football, As The First Club Ceased Operations In 2020.
I remember reading about Arkan in McMafia by Misha Glenny. Brilliant book about international organised crime if anyones interested 😅
This one was really good.
Now't as weird as life. Cheers for this.
Could You Possibly do a Top Seven Where Football Managers and Coaching Staff Have Been Sent Off By The Sidelines From The Referee Even Before After or During the Middle Of A Match.
Do a video on Slovenian football
Could you please do a video about the rise of welsh football please similar to the iceland one
You made a mistake around 15:40 mark, Arkan's party never had some big support, I think they managed to get in to parlament once but they no longer exist, they were relevant while Arkan was alive and for a short while after his assassination. And at 32:02 mark, Arkan's party didn't became Radical party, Radical party existed before they did, they kind of melted in to it. And Radical party was one of the biggest parties in Serbia up until 2012. when they split up and now they have around 1% of votes.
True, interestingly aswell that most personelof today rulling party came from the now very weak Radical party.
his wife is known as Tsetsa, not Checka
To Kill a Nation, by Michael Parenti, is an interesting read about how the dissolution of Yugoslavia was a longstanding effort by western countries.
It contextualizes the background for this video very neatly imo.
I have HITC videos and yugoslavian war songs in my suggestions, was confused for a second wich one this is.
Oh boy, this will be fun
Also who is Zhelko lol?
Good guy Alfie, not forcing anyone to like Hull City at gunpoint.
47 highest league fixtures of a nation without a loss? We are beginners then, my hometown club KuPS have played 29 games without a defeat in the Finnish Veikkausliiga, which is tied longest spell in Finnish top flight with OPS from 1980-81. However, we just cheer a lot, we don´t bribe or threaten players or referees. No assassinations!
this is actually a great history lesson
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@@ZIVELASRBIJA3 naduvaj se
Run by a war criminal? Arkan died back in 2000. Yup... he got the old fashioned Moe Greene special
Those Balkan chicks are different gravy.
As a Manchester United Fan I love Red star Belgrade and Spartak Moscow cause they were the former club of my most favourite player Vidic. Monster of a defender.
Fun fact Red Star Belgrade and Spartak Moscow clubs and fans consider each other as brother clubs along with Olympiakos.
Sloboda Užice and Spartak Subotica also
He transferred from Sloboda to Red Star and he was in loan in Subotician Spartak
3:37 No, it is not true that FK Obilic was only in the top tier of Serbian football from the 1990s onwards. FK Obilic also competed in the first Serbian league during the Second World War.
Some says that Dinamo-Red star match was de facto start of Yugoslav war.
Also there is a good thing that Serbs are slowly getting away from glorifying Arkan as "war hero" and getting with fact he was just war profiteer.
Some say that that event basically mad war possible in a way. After that event all senior police officers in Croatia were changed and majority of them were Serbs and after that almost all if not all of them were replaced by Croats. It also inflamed tensions, especially in Croatia among both Serbs and Croats.
It is still debated why Arkan did that, was he payed by the Croats or did Serbian secret police overplayed their hand and couldn't see the dangers and consequences of those actions...
He was never seen as war hero in Serbia, everyone knew he was just a criminal and one of Milošević's guys.
@@carick235 That's not really true, I mean he never was viewed as a war hero by majority but there was a lot of people who liked him, especially in early 2000's after his death.
Can you cover Lampard and Terry’s 9/11 controversy?
Btw Alfie you should look at Tp Mazembe
Yugoslavia 💙
💩, the only thing good about it was the football
> leaving a rose at the scenes of every one of his heists
Next thing you're gonna tell me, a group of teenage girls are often seen with the guy, with one of the girls having a crush on him