How did the Dance Moms Producers Hijack Legitimate Competitions?

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  • @bradleyharris774
    @bradleyharris774 3 місяці тому +744

    Hearing that the production liked it when the girls were stressed out is beyond disgusting and reinforces my belief that they were the true villains of this show.

    • @GetBenched2010
      @GetBenched2010 3 місяці тому

      that's why Lifetime never achieved their goal of building a reality tv empire ala Bravo. You just can't treat children the way Andy Cohen treats middle aged socialites.

    • @stanfordsweird4607
      @stanfordsweird4607 3 місяці тому +25

      Tbf it’s their job to make them flustered. The more flustered they are the more content and the better the episode is. Reality television is disgusting like that.

    • @mellaynerichards6031
      @mellaynerichards6031 3 місяці тому +13

      them and abby

    • @terribleterri2738
      @terribleterri2738 3 місяці тому +9

      All the adults in their lives are disgusting to a certain extent.

    • @brookiesykes5216
      @brookiesykes5216 2 місяці тому +2

      @@stanfordsweird4607yeah but it’s not fair

  • @toriandtilly
    @toriandtilly 3 місяці тому +608

    Melissa saying that Chloe probably won the You Can/Be Anything showdown says a lot

    • @deemah1237
      @deemah1237 3 місяці тому

      What?

    • @kelsey2333
      @kelsey2333 3 місяці тому +35

      It shows she no longer has any stake in how often maddie wins

    • @marilyn1984
      @marilyn1984 3 місяці тому +4

      @@kelsey2333I don’t know about that it could be she just knows Chloe danced better than day

    • @paulocosta795
      @paulocosta795 3 місяці тому +24

      Melissa is not a judge tho. I thought Maddie danced better even tho she stumbled on her turn. Chloe’s dancing was very stiff and not fluid like Maddie’s. I think Maddie won and the judges got it right

    • @dannysvanity
      @dannysvanity 3 місяці тому +16

      @@marilyn1984oh it happened often where abby would take wins away from chloe this wouldnt be surprising 😭

  • @abby2226
    @abby2226 3 місяці тому +232

    the dude BRIBED KENDALL TO PURPOSELY DROP HER PROP??? EXCUSE ME????

  • @Gabbythebaker
    @Gabbythebaker 3 місяці тому +391

    I hate how sometimes they would only air the overalls and not the age category

    • @hannahbarley97
      @hannahbarley97 3 місяці тому +31

      Yeah that really annoyed me as well I remember in a season 2 episode that chloe did a solo in the intermediate category and maddie in the junior category and the show made it seem like chloe was against maddie and didn’t place even though she won her category

    • @Amber.28.
      @Amber.28. 3 місяці тому

      That's half true chloe lost her age category but won in the intermediate lyrical solo ​@@hannahbarley97

    • @Gabbythebaker
      @Gabbythebaker 3 місяці тому +8

      @@hannahbarley97 yeah I agree. I remember that too. It was the week after she beat Maddie.

    • @AgHeartsAway07
      @AgHeartsAway07 3 місяці тому +13

      Yah as a competition dancer growing up it always really bothered me and I knew the average viewer wouldn't know the difference which just made it seem kinda shady

    • @Kayla-jy6vh
      @Kayla-jy6vh 2 місяці тому +5

      Yes because Nia actually won with her solo “the color purple “ in the teen category but the show made it seem like she didn’t place at all. Mackzboss covered this episode!!

  • @slimshady1987
    @slimshady1987 3 місяці тому +272

    making the kids do hair and makeup and do everything in half an hour is insane to me as a dancer. At my studio, we have to get there at least an hour early with hair and makeup and costume already on

    • @kelsey2333
      @kelsey2333 3 місяці тому +11

      So you do hair and makeup at home and show up with it done already?

    • @azurelemon
      @azurelemon 3 місяці тому +20

      @@kelsey2333 yes that’s usually standard

    • @Marbles40
      @Marbles40 3 місяці тому +19

      Yeah either that or arrive two hours early without anything done (at my studio)

    • @chappy946
      @chappy946 3 місяці тому +5

      They had a professional makeup artist. Just never shown on tv🤦‍♀️

    • @slimshady1987
      @slimshady1987 3 місяці тому +18

      @@chappy946 I think they only used makeup artists for elaborate makeup on the girls. like ik the adults had makeup artists but I don’t think the girls usually did

  • @kelsey2333
    @kelsey2333 3 місяці тому +457

    It makes everyone on the show look the best if they claim the competitions are legit. So i take it with a grain of salt.

    • @m00gan64
      @m00gan64 3 місяці тому +3

      sligal wgloop vorp

    • @kelsey2333
      @kelsey2333 3 місяці тому

      ​@@m00gan64you too

    • @kelsey2333
      @kelsey2333 3 місяці тому

      ​@@m00gan64you too homie

    • @marilyn1984
      @marilyn1984 3 місяці тому +16

      @sotorturedsopoeticofc they actually would win at REAL prestigious competitions

    • @marilyn1984
      @marilyn1984 3 місяці тому +5

      @sotorturedsopoetic yea I was agreeing with you too

  • @scarysay
    @scarysay 3 місяці тому +73

    Something I've noticed while rewatching the series is that during a competition, right before a performance the MC often says "We're gonna skip a little bit in your program to act number [blank]". It makes me wonder if the producers/film crew had anything to do with having the program schedule/order changed.

  • @cinacat_
    @cinacat_ 3 місяці тому +106

    i believe the cast fully believes the comps are real. they are, to an extent. however, when the producers are choosing the competition - and the number of competitors - it’s not a true comp. it may not be rigged, but if your the only one in your category you will win without the judge tampering all the time

    • @leena75
      @leena75 3 місяці тому +6

      idk, cast members who said on irreplacables tour that they were fake so they cant even decide

    • @Kayla-jy6vh
      @Kayla-jy6vh 2 місяці тому +8

      @@leena75I think seasons 1-4 were real competitions then it gradually got faker. People who used to compete with them in earlier seasons confirmed they were real competitions but sometimes the scores would be changed for tv drama.

  • @LolaP-q8l
    @LolaP-q8l 3 місяці тому +135

    I never thought I'd hear Melissa would admit Chloe won.

    • @2sweet2eat
      @2sweet2eat Місяць тому +5

      Melissa has changed a lot. I genuinely believe she had a unique relationship with Abby, similar to Kelly, and she just wanted to do what was best for her children and it went too far. I wish everyone would cut her some slack, she's clearly matured.

  • @chichi3183
    @chichi3183 3 місяці тому +59

    I believe that season 1 to 3 and maybe 4 were real the atmosphere was different. However in season 5 it became more like a show than a competition, there were even less kids

    • @STACEYXRENEE
      @STACEYXRENEE 3 місяці тому +8

      Yes it was also the most fair placements and scoring in seasons 1-4. Although there were times where production would fake results.
      Like they made it look like Kenzie beat Chloe when she actually was in teen division and got first but they only shows the overalls, and the time where Kendall won with fool me twice, but they showed her overall placement which was second. And lastly when Kamryn beck went against Chloe they made it look like she got 3rd but that was in the overalls and she got first in teen.

    • @chichi3183
      @chichi3183 3 місяці тому +2

      @@STACEYXRENEE yes they always edited it, like Chloe's solo proof, they made it seem like she didn't place, but she was first in intermediate level

    • @STACEYXRENEE
      @STACEYXRENEE 3 місяці тому

      @@chichi3183 yea I remember ❤️

    • @haileyparsons3844
      @haileyparsons3844 2 місяці тому +2

      I think it also had to do with the team dynamic as well. It felt more real and then s5 came around and it felt more like a reality tv show because it wasn't the same anymore and they were pushing more drama onto the kids.

  • @BetteDavis19
    @BetteDavis19 3 місяці тому +109

    THANK YOU for saying it is rigged lol, the producer's influence of course impacts things lol. its ridiculous for grown adults to assume otherwise! christi recently said exactly this. it's just being realistic and fair

  • @katesimpson9294
    @katesimpson9294 3 місяці тому +40

    One note about the comp circuits ‘making up competitions’ is that both Imagine and Believe (comps Abby mentioned) are legit, running competitions to this day. They are both part of the Star Dance Alliance so maybe the producers specifically chose those (as opposed to fully making them up) because they had already worked with many SDA comps before? Just food for thought, because I know Imagine is still running as I competed there just last month!!

    • @mysticgirl916
      @mysticgirl916 3 місяці тому +1

      The season 8 team competed at DreamMaker a few times, which is another competition under the SDA banner

  • @ettabeckreck4733
    @ettabeckreck4733 3 місяці тому +40

    It was clear to me that production entered the competition numbers because why else would other teams have the following entry number every time? That’s not a coincidence when candy apples would be entry number 19 and aldc would be 20!

    • @emirachelnatalie3397
      @emirachelnatalie3397 3 місяці тому +2

      wasn't like that all the time though. I watched one the other day and it was like NUmber 50 and Number 57. And same with the solos for one episode, it was 20 and 26. BUT it probs is the very next one if you took note of them each time.

    • @marilyn1984
      @marilyn1984 3 місяці тому +6

      It wasn’t like that in the first two seasons you would hear the mothers say oh Chloe number is 79 and Maddie is 145 but it was edited right after simply bc it wouldn’t make sense to show them dancing at different chunk of times for example Nia and Asia duet didn’t exactly dance right after Maddie it was like a 30mins after but they edited like they danced right after Maddie and Chloe solos that week

  • @heatherward5053
    @heatherward5053 3 місяці тому +100

    Abby is mad the judges “played favorites” when that was ENTIRE basis of her business model😂😂 Her hypocrisy TRULY knows no bounds. Abby also had issues with production messing with competition results, but her doing it was ok. Most of us has realized the competition circuit was fake and the results were edited/faked for drama, but there are those few that INSIST they were all real and everything was legit. It’s not just that the competitions were fake, but there was interference in subtle and obvious ways.
    I love these videos.. packed FULL of stuff I have always wondered

    • @leinaleilani
      @leinaleilani 3 місяці тому +9

      i was hoping someone else caught this 😂 the hypocrisy with this woman is astounding and never ending

    • @prettypatrece
      @prettypatrece 3 місяці тому +5

      I was just going to comment this.

    • @cait_xo
      @cait_xo 2 місяці тому +3

      Agreed. I feel like the people who INSIST it was real are the die hard Maddie fans. I swear they think all the competitions were real and fair besides when she didn’t win, then they have an excuse or call that one fake. Some Dance Moms fans truly remind me of Abby herself. Smh. 🤦‍♀️

    • @prettypatrece
      @prettypatrece 2 місяці тому +3

      @@cait_xo they can’t see what’s real even with evidence and will defend until blue in the face. I don’t know how many times I point out facts and still meet with I’m wrong. It’s frightening.

  • @vibinvina4309
    @vibinvina4309 3 місяці тому +78

    6:39 The “perfect fit” sleeves didn’t fit, how ironic😂😂😂

    • @kayseecoward7571
      @kayseecoward7571 2 місяці тому +3

      If the sleeves don’t fit, you must acquit!

  • @emirachelnatalie3397
    @emirachelnatalie3397 3 місяці тому +36

    I only believe that the 100% real competitions are Season 1 and a few more of early season 2.....obviously production may of had influence on them. But they competed season 1, and the show premiered when they were at season 1 nationals. The competitions with more people at awards (mainly season 1-4) were more realistic looking than the later seasons with like just the ALDC there. thats what makes them look fake etc

  • @sydneyfowler8964
    @sydneyfowler8964 2 місяці тому +5

    Has anyone else noticed that especially in later seasons music mishaps would happen when songs had been used before on either AUDC or in earlier seasons of Dance moms?

  • @SmittenKitten.
    @SmittenKitten. 3 місяці тому +13

    I can't believe how compelling these videos are even after all this time!

  • @lethalloveablelibra
    @lethalloveablelibra 3 місяці тому +12

    The part that gets me is that Abby accuses the judges of playing favorites when favoritism was the source of all the drama on and off the show. There were also many instances where she would throw a fit when her favorites would lose and her other students would win over her favorites.

  • @chappy946
    @chappy946 3 місяці тому +25

    Someone should do a deep dive. Call the few studios that were at the competition’s. They had to pay to be there. The competitions were not open to the public. Look up the dates, the competitions didn’t exist on those date’s 😅

  • @ambzerambzer8800
    @ambzerambzer8800 2 місяці тому +7

    Purposely trying to stress the kids out is literally child abuse, and tampering with their costumes or not letting them have enough time to adjust them, so accidents or malfunctions were likely to happen is also abuse, like “oh yeah maybe they’re costume would fall off or maybe this would cause a fall” like geez it’s actually pervy and not to mentally extremely dangerous, an actual fully blown injury could’ve occurred.
    And Abby banning the guy who Maddie hugged just shows her weird obsession with her, that was clearly out of jealousy

  • @alwaysrootingfortheantihero123
    @alwaysrootingfortheantihero123 3 місяці тому +27

    i bet the girls didn’t know abt how it was producer manipulated. i bet the producers hid most of it from the moms too.

  • @Dolphinboi
    @Dolphinboi 3 місяці тому +14

    I need this videos more often. There’s so much tea about dance moms

  • @milipuga
    @milipuga 3 місяці тому +30

    I think the moms know everything points out to the competitions being rigged, but they choose to care for their daughters self-steems (not public image, unlike everyone says). Imagine thinking you won a lot of things and then it turns out it was handed to you just because you were on a TV show, so you basically never won anything, wasting your youth in competitive dancing for nothing. It probably gives some psychological repercussions. The mothers know, they are just caring for everyone's psyche

  • @tarafallon8183
    @tarafallon8183 3 місяці тому +17

    I wonder what kind of influence the producers had when Chloe dropped her hat in that one episode. I think it was season 3 then she got suspended by Abby. I wonder if the producers told Abby that Chloe couldn’t come back or something like that. I would love to know what really happened in that one.

    • @marilyn1984
      @marilyn1984 3 місяці тому +8

      No Christi pushed a camera man that’s why Christi/Chloe were suspended not really bc she dropped her hat

  • @Livvie00
    @Livvie00 3 місяці тому +11

    Always thankful when you upload! Happy Thursday!!

  • @kelsey2333
    @kelsey2333 3 місяці тому +13

    Your videos are the best!!! Best dance moms related content there is

  • @sparklebambiluva
    @sparklebambiluva 3 місяці тому +22

    mackzboss is my fav australian youtuber fr

  • @ChristinaMBasler
    @ChristinaMBasler 3 місяці тому +12

    Wow! The point about producers wanting Kendall to drop her gun is crazy, but if it was Jess and jojo i bet they wouldn’t said yes 😂

  • @bethanyjademillin2284
    @bethanyjademillin2284 3 місяці тому +9

    9:00 Fortunate for Kendell, Unfortunate for JayZ

  • @raea3588
    @raea3588 3 місяці тому +7

    I can't believe that any of these children, now grown, are in one piece😥
    I can't believe their mothers didn't fight tooth and nail even if they had to go to court to get their children out of that environment! 💔
    It really makes me angry that the moms are still making money off of it.

  • @jessicasteiner7298
    @jessicasteiner7298 3 місяці тому +15

    It seems to be very produced I wouldn't be surprised if they intervened to make one win over the other.

  • @alg94
    @alg94 3 місяці тому +3

    I 100% believe cathy when she said production entered the girls because they would be the only ones to know what competition they would be doing on the show, they don't plan it too far in advance, and every real competition has studios register in September before the comp season begins the following February/march

  • @loto159
    @loto159 Місяць тому

    I went to highschool with people who were in dance competitions in the same area. The Dance Moms performed at the events but were in their own category, and lots of kids (at least the ones I knew) were told to avoid them

  • @snoeleopard0
    @snoeleopard0 3 місяці тому +4

    i like this direction of dance moms uncovered!! this was very well researched and flowed really well :)

  • @KaylaMarieYT
    @KaylaMarieYT 3 місяці тому +4

    not sure if this is something you’ve done before. but are you able to do a video specifically on gianna? how she sat back and watched abby’s behavior towards the girls playing a part in their trauma, going along with abby’s antics and even supporting them, did she really agree to go along with these things or was she just protecting her job, was she a victim of abby as well.

  • @faithm6778
    @faithm6778 3 місяці тому +3

    What about the one Kendall, Maddie, and Chloe competed at before the show that Christi used to scare Jill in season 2?

  • @kaidyer8761
    @kaidyer8761 3 місяці тому +11

    It's so sad to hear they've gone through worse behind the scene poor girls

  • @sheagatchell1724
    @sheagatchell1724 3 місяці тому +2

    Cathy has started spilling the tea on Instagram and I am here for it

  • @Sky.walk3r
    @Sky.walk3r 3 місяці тому +10

    do we still believe anything ALM says ?

  • @rhyanbdavis
    @rhyanbdavis 3 місяці тому +2

    I was at the season 4 nationals and the ALDC definitely did win the overall group award. It was a clean sweep for them except for Mackenzie’s 2nd place (which I was surprised by)

    • @paigeymacky
      @paigeymacky 3 місяці тому +1

      I was also there for my duet abby dabba honeymoon, i was 4 so i don’t remember that much and i remember they tried to make kenzie in the age 4-7 pelite category i think it was backstage.

  • @gailwheatley5517
    @gailwheatley5517 3 місяці тому +4

    Abby fixed her sleeves before she went on

  • @justcallmejessz3712
    @justcallmejessz3712 3 місяці тому +7

    Could (or have you) make a video the follows Abby's full arc?
    How she changed each season, etc.
    [[And perhaps dig into the mystery in my mind, wondering why she was mever acused of substance use]] 😅😮😮😮

    • @kyliesmith7903
      @kyliesmith7903 3 місяці тому +1

      Omg whenever she was dealing with her fraud case I think season 6 she started acting like she was on something by the way her mouth movements she made I've always thought she was on drugs that season just be that.

    • @heatherward5053
      @heatherward5053 3 місяці тому +1

      This would be such a good one!!

    • @kaitlinbilous4605
      @kaitlinbilous4605 3 місяці тому

      That's probably episode 100

  • @eliscko8968
    @eliscko8968 3 місяці тому +8

    I would love to see which were fake and real

  • @chappy946
    @chappy946 2 місяці тому +1

    Sooooo happy that some of the truth is coming out! Keep up the good work. Keep digging.

  • @Arabella811
    @Arabella811 3 місяці тому +6

    First!! Love your content!!! 💗

  • @isidorajaeger7123
    @isidorajaeger7123 3 місяці тому +1

    basically the producers did like 90% of the things and 20% was real and the moms did or the kids. That is insane

  • @Andrea_3dits
    @Andrea_3dits 3 місяці тому +5

    First!! Love ur vids girl💞

  • @Lunamargret
    @Lunamargret 3 місяці тому +9

    Even its a little odd for that guy to hug maddie. Abby doesn't get to complain as she KISSED her, a child on TV. It screams controlling and I'm glad Maddie had moved away from all that.

    • @Channel24377
      @Channel24377 3 місяці тому +1

      He was just being nice I find it weird Abby didn’t want him hugging her it’s like she was jealous or scared they would take her Abby was very controlling of Maddie.

  • @skippygaming9695
    @skippygaming9695 3 місяці тому +2

    I am confused about the costumes.
    abby claims she was the one to do the costumes all the time.

  • @madadadaddie
    @madadadaddie 3 місяці тому +3

    melissa doing q&a's is a gift from god

  • @wheniwatchtheworldburn3184
    @wheniwatchtheworldburn3184 Місяць тому

    Just looking at how many children were actually at the competitions in the earlier seasons compared to s5 onwarss

  • @prettypatrece
    @prettypatrece 3 місяці тому +1

    I believe some competitions were real and the producers edited it for more drama and 3/4 of the competitions were fake due to many circumstances done by Abby and production. Now Dance Moms producers are attacking Cathy for speaking up.

  • @Margot_Lazarus
    @Margot_Lazarus 3 місяці тому +1

    I think most of the competitions were completely rigged! I mean they were either paying the competitions to let them film or putting on the competitions for the show themselves. I think production pretty much had lay of the land when it came to who placed where. Maybe not at all the competitions in the first 2 seasons but I think season 3 on production was putting on most of the competitions themselves and therefore could probably alter scores as they pleased.

  • @marcysweet38
    @marcysweet38 Місяць тому +1

    JayZ had something to do with dance moms???

  • @jazzyjas7480
    @jazzyjas7480 3 місяці тому +1

    Welcome back

  • @Neptune5667
    @Neptune5667 3 місяці тому

    Omg the producers should be arrested and charged with child abuse. Why in gods name would you want to intentionally hurt these babies? I say “babies” because they are so young. Disgusting.

  • @spritzup2312
    @spritzup2312 3 місяці тому

    Melissa is slowly transforming into Carmela Soprano

  • @majormana1
    @majormana1 3 місяці тому +1

    def some of kenzie dances where underscored.

  • @AthenaPlayz
    @AthenaPlayz 3 місяці тому

    Love the new style

  • @AP-ty6oz
    @AP-ty6oz 3 місяці тому

    The producers were actually evil for messing with kids. Mess with the adults not children.

  • @nellrose4699
    @nellrose4699 2 місяці тому

    The riggery is more to do with abby in my opinion, she definitely got favouritism in the early seasons as well, being personally friendly with the judges etc is suspicious

  • @hadiac1043
    @hadiac1043 3 місяці тому +1

    does anyone know why they have two podcasts without christi??

    • @marilyn1984
      @marilyn1984 3 місяці тому +7

      Christi said she didn’t want to be apart of the first one bc it would bring old memories back so they decided to continue with out the second one is technically like a reboot of the first one

    • @prettypatrece
      @prettypatrece 3 місяці тому +3

      She knew how some still would gloss over things and she didn’t want to be put in a situation where it would go left. I enjoy Christi and Kelly’s more because they don’t hold back and have guest stars giving real accounts without being pigeonholed.

  • @rosannesweitzer4778
    @rosannesweitzer4778 13 днів тому

    😡It sounds to me that the producers and production are way worse than meany Abby!!! Poor kids and their moms !! It's so toxic !! Shame on the producers!!! 😡. 👯‍♂️👯‍♀️👯

  • @hannahbarley97
    @hannahbarley97 3 місяці тому

    Imo the competitions were very producer influenced if they wanted some drama to happen during the competitions (eg erika in the wrong age category, not setting up props, etc) they would make it happen.

  • @ohellis1115
    @ohellis1115 3 місяці тому +1

    So close... 😊

  • @alyshalee6739
    @alyshalee6739 3 місяці тому

    i would love to know your thoughts in a video of the dance moms reunion!

  • @LolaP-q8l
    @LolaP-q8l 3 місяці тому +1

    MackcBoss is the best

  • @bmk256
    @bmk256 3 місяці тому +1

    bruh this shit is child abuse

  • @ryulee1996
    @ryulee1996 3 місяці тому

    I'm sorry like about Gino's performance on the stage being half naked is not okay like it almost exposed his entire body on the show including that there are child predator out there watching him and thinking nasty thing in there mind like who made him dress like that? Productions? You cannot be serious letting Gino being half naked like that.

  • @ezinnepatra7825
    @ezinnepatra7825 3 місяці тому +1

    So NOW Melissa is vocal about what went on BTS. I thought her daughter was the best thing to walk this earth and other moms were so jealous of them.
    No shade on the daughter(s) though

  • @paulocosta795
    @paulocosta795 3 місяці тому +7

    Chloe was definitely favored a lot by the judges, especially in season 4 where it’s obvious that Kamryn should’ve won

  • @anthearichter
    @anthearichter 3 місяці тому

    Couldn’t they have not agree to do what producers asked them to do? Was it on their contract to obey producers? Unless I was getting hourly paid, I don’t think I would have stayed I. The room until producer allowed me
    to leave. Isn’t it illegal to be taken hostage? Is moms understood how much producers had control over them, why did moms believe Abby was bad person mistreating their girls? Didn’t it occur to them that perhaps Abby did what she had to do also because of producer? At the end, everyone became famous because of the show. I guess it all depends on what they wished for

  • @chalkandcheese1868
    @chalkandcheese1868 3 місяці тому +5

    Chloe's climactic and "miraculous" victory over Maddie at the season 2 nationals was completely fake.

  • @vibinvina4309
    @vibinvina4309 3 місяці тому +5

    6:39 The “perfect fit” sleeves didn’t fit, how ironic😂😂😂