Beginner Guide To Making Primitive Pottery

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КОМЕНТАРІ • 139

  • @CeilingOpossum
    @CeilingOpossum Місяць тому +103

    Im glad that you included all the slip-up in the video , I think showing the “failures” can be much more useful when learning a new craft than only seeing success!

    • @johnnywoods5549
      @johnnywoods5549 26 днів тому +2

      It also proves that it's not fake, like some of the other channels that I won't name.

  • @jasongannon7676
    @jasongannon7676 Місяць тому +11

    A little trick I used to dry my clay about 2×faster is place a towel in a plastic bag then your pot and a towel on top of the pot with the sides of the pot exposed. Close the bag and place it in the sun heat up the air space sweating the clay. The fabric captures the excess moisture. Do to the high humidity the clay drys evenly or evenly enough to prevent cracking. With sum experimentation you can develop a technique that is very useful.

  • @ucantSQ
    @ucantSQ Місяць тому +30

    I'd really like to see your process of finding and refining your clay. Can't wait for the rest of the series. Ceramics is the foundation of civilization... or at least one of the many pillars.

  • @TUKByV
    @TUKByV Місяць тому +167

    "Primitive" isn't synonymous with "incompetent", folks.

    • @vladimirpain3942
      @vladimirpain3942 28 днів тому +3

      We were "primitive" for like 90% of our history, so lets hope it is not :)

    • @chocolatemilk457
      @chocolatemilk457 28 днів тому +2

      @@vladimirpain3942 I mean isn't all of the past primitive, if its referring to the historical development or early stage of evolution eventually everything becomes early stage as we progress more and more.

    • @Beuwen_The_Dragon
      @Beuwen_The_Dragon 26 днів тому +1

      ​@@vladimirpain3942 more like 99.9%

  • @partyinthecloudkingdom
    @partyinthecloudkingdom Місяць тому +35

    the bright side of failed pots is you can reuse them to grog your clay, which works as a temper for the clay

    • @Texasthebeststate-in-u.s
      @Texasthebeststate-in-u.s 29 днів тому +1

      What do you mean by grog

    • @hannahkemarly6089
      @hannahkemarly6089 25 днів тому +8

      @@Texasthebeststate-in-u.s fired pottery that broke either in the firing stage or during use was often ground down finely and added to unfired clay as temper in ancient times. because it has already been chemically altered by firing but is still a bit porous, it stabilizes the moisture content of the clay and allows it to dry at a more even rate, as well as increasing the structural integrity of the clay the same way sand is shown to in the video. seems like that's what they're talking about

    • @Texasthebeststate-in-u.s
      @Texasthebeststate-in-u.s 25 днів тому +1

      @@hannahkemarly6089 thank you that helps a lot

  • @sirkai007
    @sirkai007 Місяць тому +26

    I've seen clay tempered with fired pottery that was ground down to powder. A great way to recycle the failed pottery.

  • @JeremyClark-wu6eb
    @JeremyClark-wu6eb Місяць тому +36

    Really hope for a future finding and identify clay. I want to start making pottery but want to source it from the area im at instead of the store

    • @cristymenapace677
      @cristymenapace677 Місяць тому +6

      It’s all around you…go to any river…guaranteed you find it there😊

    • @billlarsen-ruffin2869
      @billlarsen-ruffin2869 28 днів тому +3

      If you have crawfish/crayfish in your area, they bring it to the surface for you.

    • @joshuaweezorak7042
      @joshuaweezorak7042 26 днів тому +1

      If there's a river or stream, there is clay.
      Might have to dig a couple inches but it's there.

    • @vulpesvulpessapiens
      @vulpesvulpessapiens 14 днів тому +1

      Dig into the ground, if the soil is red it's probably clay rich. Clay is heavier than sediment, so you separate it in water. Let it sit for 30mins, drain, repeat. Add sand. Clay

  • @MrGaza74
    @MrGaza74 Місяць тому +31

    This was exactly what happened to my first attempt. Thanks for showing failures as well because we learn so much from them. Now I know I need to put more grog in it and put into the fire gradually. 👍🏼

  • @kurtisbrattinga3002
    @kurtisbrattinga3002 Місяць тому +12

    Everybody like this video cause I wanna learn more

  • @richardlynch5632
    @richardlynch5632 Місяць тому +10

    Had no idea you knew how to throw clay...!😎👍👍
    Excellent video and looking forward to more on this subject. 👍
    Would like to see a vessel like an oil lamp...?
    Your knowledge is valuable and appreciate that you enjoy sharing what you've learned😎👍👍

    • @sagesmokesurvival
      @sagesmokesurvival  Місяць тому +10

      I make a style of oil lamp that I guarantee you've never seen a video on. It casts more light than normal oil lamps, easier to make, and can use liquid or solid fuels and even pine resin. I'll have to make a video on that next

    • @richardlynch5632
      @richardlynch5632 Місяць тому +4

      @@sagesmokesurvival
      Excited to watch when available 😃👍
      Thanks😎

    • @SavvyGirl515
      @SavvyGirl515 Місяць тому +3

      Me too excited for that video. Unless it's already out, in which case, I suppose I'll find it!
      I'm new to the channel, currently binging videos and enjoying every bit.

  • @dingushasacamera8379
    @dingushasacamera8379 Місяць тому +7

    Thank you for showing the failure with this process! It gives me hope on mine that Ive broken and have been super sad about too

  • @woodsroamer6175
    @woodsroamer6175 28 днів тому +2

    My father owned several brick plants in the Frontera region of North-eastern Mexico. Some of the plants were for making handmade bricks, and others used an extruding process to make brick with machines. I grew up in that milieu. We made thousands of bricks. I speak your language when it comes to the chemistry of clays. I’m glad to see your channel.

  • @simonfail2942
    @simonfail2942 Місяць тому +11

    Hey man love ur vids pls don’t ever stop posting u make stuff so easy to understand and always I treating topic. ❤❤ what are some simple projects I could do with just a knife and tini tony hatchet thx ❤👍👍👍 keep up the good work

    • @sagesmokesurvival
      @sagesmokesurvival  Місяць тому +6

      Thanks so much! With just a knife and a hatchet, I'd suggest trying to carve a rabbitstick. check out my recent video on that for instruction

    • @simonfail2942
      @simonfail2942 Місяць тому +1

      @@sagesmokesurvival thx

  • @OsborneOutdoors1
    @OsborneOutdoors1 Місяць тому +2

    Right on! I for one appreciate your being honest and sharing your failures as well as triumphs.
    If we had more honesty in the world, we may begin to trust one another again.
    Thanks Seth.

  • @jf2369af
    @jf2369af Місяць тому +6

    Thanks for the class I can't wait to try it out next time I try to

  • @markgibsons_SWpottery
    @markgibsons_SWpottery 21 день тому +1

    Truly, any pottery you can use is priceless!!! Good show!

  • @MrDragon6771
    @MrDragon6771 Місяць тому +3

    I would love to see more videos on finding the clay and making stuff with it

  • @danielpatriquin7023
    @danielpatriquin7023 Місяць тому +4

    I would love to see more videos on any sort of Bushcraft!

  • @cmhrr
    @cmhrr 18 днів тому

    You can also use a large stone to form a vessel over, upside down.
    Also, since cracking is more likely to happen when different parts of the pot dry (and therefore shrink) at different rates, you can slow down the drying process on the thinner and/or more exposed parts (e.g. the rim) by protecting them with some pine pitch. It will burn off in the pit firing.

  • @greenleif
    @greenleif 10 днів тому +1

    🚩 You are such a talented person! Thank You for sharing your knowledge. Lost arts like this are a connection to our past & we shouldn't forget about them.
    God Bless You & Yours🤗💞🙏🏻🕊️✨

  • @Bingo-lu1dh
    @Bingo-lu1dh 19 днів тому +1

    Petrichor is both one of my favourite smells and favourite words. Brilliant video! Hope you make some more on pottery.

  • @DungeonWhispers
    @DungeonWhispers 27 днів тому +1

    I appreciate that you show mistakes. That actually helps build my confidence more than just watching everyone's best stuff.

  • @irkallaLustre
    @irkallaLustre Місяць тому +2

    Thank you man i really appreciate you putting this vital wisdom out in the community

  • @jasperoliger
    @jasperoliger 26 днів тому

    Very good idea building the fire over the pots! They can explode even in a modern kiln, so it's good those logs are there to stop any shrapnel if they do go boom 👍

  • @orpheuscreativeco9236
    @orpheuscreativeco9236 21 день тому

    Chelation also breaks down stone ✌️✨ I was taught to cover pottery as it's drying so it doesn't crack. Something like a thin kitchen towel works well and holds some humidity in the immediate vicinity. I know you mentioned plastic bags as well.
    Thanks for sharing! 🙏

  • @newageneanderthal5680
    @newageneanderthal5680 Місяць тому +3

    Nice video, inspired me to pick up my pottery stuff and start working with it. I need to diversify my channel a little. Again I really appreciate the shout out! Looking forward to future projects!

  • @JuaneDosesII-wj6dd
    @JuaneDosesII-wj6dd 3 дні тому

    If it’s possible leave the pottery to dry in a closet or cave for a week. Using a chipping brush to leave a brushed surface is used in the concrete business, this helps with cracking if you don’t mind a rough surface.

  • @carolinelloyd1858
    @carolinelloyd1858 Місяць тому +2

    That finish you got using the smooth stone reminds me of the surface inside the Babarr "caves" and ancient sculptures the experts insist were carved 🤔🧐

  • @pattymc614
    @pattymc614 22 дні тому

    Love your videos! Thanks for including your "failures " They are part of the learning process and definitely give a beginner, like me, the motivation to keep trying!

  • @adrianlarsen1106
    @adrianlarsen1106 Місяць тому +2

    Excellent video! There are clearly a lot of tricks and techniques to learn and you did a great job of sharing them. I feel like I could actually do this. Hard to believe you are literally starting with mud you found in the ground and ending up with useful pots, plates, cups, etc. So cool!

  • @amandaschuster5895
    @amandaschuster5895 3 дні тому +1

    Need more primitive pottery content please!

  • @ratatoskr1069
    @ratatoskr1069 Місяць тому

    I find the burnishing with natural stone the most addictive part of it all.

  • @leprechan9
    @leprechan9 Місяць тому +1

    3:14 the area that you collect your clay form could also contain flint

  • @gittyupg007
    @gittyupg007 Місяць тому

    Some things money don't buy, many thx for your talents.

  • @latemcire8387
    @latemcire8387 Місяць тому +2

    Great information! I look forward to the next video

  • @anonymousopinion228
    @anonymousopinion228 Місяць тому +1

    I really would like to see how you process it or like a simplified way of it, for if I just wanted to make a small cup or pot at a river, I go to camp.

  • @vonries
    @vonries 26 днів тому

    Personally I appreciate the fact that you show a fail. If it happens as often as you say, it's nice to see what happens to the pro. Now I won't feel so bad if it happens to me. Plus I get an idea of what happens and what it looks like. I never knew you could fire at such low temperatures.

  • @BryanKoenig379
    @BryanKoenig379 Місяць тому +1

    I love your channel man thanks for sharing these skills

  • @unicornbbq
    @unicornbbq Місяць тому +1

    Well done. I'd like to see you add primitive glaze to the mix at some point.

  • @polarmouse3943
    @polarmouse3943 Місяць тому +1

    Whoa i never knew how pottery was made! Amazing, and now i know where to find clay in my area 😄
    You explain the technique really well, i've tried molding before and of course it was asymmetrical and of irregular thickness. I never saw those tools before, great content

  • @HitokiriRaiden
    @HitokiriRaiden Місяць тому +1

    Really enjoy the videos. and glad you show when something doesn't work out.

  • @ronaldgoodrich5460
    @ronaldgoodrich5460 Місяць тому +1

    I never had problems with firing. I made over 35 pots. Probably 80 percent success. I dont think people let them dry enough. I give them at least a week.

  • @jcknives4162
    @jcknives4162 Місяць тому

    I think your clay has calcium Carbonate in it. Do you see the white spots where it spalled?
    You can levigate out the Ca Co2 by pouring off the water a few times. You could call it ringing the clay. Any way, your problems won’t go away with adding temper.
    Andy Ward at Ancient Pottery is great at this.

  • @JohlBrown
    @JohlBrown 29 днів тому

    notably a pot polished on the outside will reflect heat away. pot polished on inside reflects heat back into itself

  • @shelbylowery2748
    @shelbylowery2748 Місяць тому

    The clay could've been a lil too thick and/or wasn't dry enough on the inside. But heck yeah! I'll have to try this.

  • @nathanaelmcnaughton4054
    @nathanaelmcnaughton4054 Місяць тому

    I would love to see how to collect your own clay. i hope you do a series on this

  • @gorillaqueen
    @gorillaqueen Місяць тому

    This was amazing to watch. The most important parts were the things that went wrong. I learned a lot from that! Thank you and keep up your mission.

  • @fvls_2110
    @fvls_2110 Місяць тому +1

    I made some pottery too. Some went good, some not...still gonna try a lot!!

  • @suet.r.4815
    @suet.r.4815 Місяць тому +1

    Can you use the spalded dishes anyway? Not in a fire, perhaps, (because of uneven heating, at the very least) but perhaps as dippers and scoopers?
    Or will you break them down into fine grit and use them for temper?

  • @ilikeguavaalot111
    @ilikeguavaalot111 27 днів тому

    Tnx for the video, just a little note - bacteria, fungi and even chicken help to break down stones to dirt...

  • @Jana_Rea
    @Jana_Rea Місяць тому

    I loved this video. Thanks a lot for such an educational class!

  • @timmynormand8082
    @timmynormand8082 8 днів тому

    I'm definitely going to try this. I live next to a river an I see these large bands of grey clay So I will collect some Not to sure abt adding the sand to temper it though I been subbed for a while now. Love your content. Even tanned my deer hide last yr

  • @bigcntry194
    @bigcntry194 20 днів тому

    Great survival skill. Thanks

  • @sagesmokesurvival
    @sagesmokesurvival  Місяць тому +1

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  • @toothnfang69
    @toothnfang69 11 днів тому

    Well done. Great video. Excited to give it a go.

  • @macdev77
    @macdev77 Місяць тому +1

    If I was out in the middle of nowhere and needed to form a clay pot, what are some tips for finding the right clay? And is there a naturally occurring sand substitute? I get shaping and drying but without picking the right base of ingredients it won’t work. Good info in the vid thank you

  • @asmith7876
    @asmith7876 Місяць тому

    I so desperately want to try this...I think there is a clay deposit where I go camping, I may try this next weekend if I have enough time. I've searched the creek behind my house but haven't found suitable deposits. Don't know where you live but it looks awesome!

  • @conyermud1
    @conyermud1 26 днів тому

    Brilliant video, thank you.

  • @sophroniel
    @sophroniel 22 дні тому

    Oh man I wanna know so much more! It's hard to find in my neck of the woods cos I'm on a stretch of the south island of nz that is just greywacke. This facenates me!!

  • @shawn4664
    @shawn4664 Місяць тому

    Love your videos, man. Thanks for making them. My dad was an expert with this sort of thing and I regret not learning more from him before he passed but am happy to find this knowledge on youtube now.
    Do you have any tips on where to look for good clay? I recall finding good clay in caves as a kid but there aren't many caves around where I now live. Lastly, do you have a discord or community server like that? I imagine you have built a pretty interesting community.

  • @jf2369af
    @jf2369af Місяць тому +1

    What a knowledge drop with that hole he who masters using the worst of materials is normally better than the one who only used the best of materials. I love making diamonds out of turds myself too.

  • @thebigrigtrucker7277
    @thebigrigtrucker7277 29 днів тому +1

    Do you ever send off samples of the soil you use to test for heavy metals and/or contaminants?

  • @user-sw1wh2to2v
    @user-sw1wh2to2v Місяць тому +2

    When Ash work for temper?

  • @arlahunt4240
    @arlahunt4240 15 днів тому

    I sure enjoy your channel.

  • @leemay7780
    @leemay7780 28 днів тому

    def gonna give this a go I like your channel

  • @LucciShack
    @LucciShack Місяць тому +1

    Very informative for me i know i cant do that from nature

  • @karlgru3n654
    @karlgru3n654 Місяць тому +1

    Fascinating! Thank you for sharing. ;)

  • @rorywest4937
    @rorywest4937 Місяць тому +1

    My first firing went like that. 😅 Maybe next week I will try again with some changes and hopefully a better result.

  • @camedelic1365
    @camedelic1365 20 днів тому

    I am more interested in the process of finding, collecting, and cleaning different types of clay at the moment. I am new to clay, but I like to dig holes and clay is fun to collect.
    What is the best method of cleaning it, and collecting it without getting so much dirt with it? Where I live the clay is orange and red with tints of yellow, while the clay here at the beach is more grayish and dull in color. What is the difference between the two?

  • @bearnaff9387
    @bearnaff9387 Місяць тому +1

    Can you grind up the fired clay from these failed wares and use it to temper your wet clay? I admit I got the idea from the Primitive Technology guy, but is there any reason it wouldn't work?

  • @spindlywebs
    @spindlywebs 29 днів тому

    IM SO OBSESSED WITH THIS VIDEO ITS SO GOOD I WANNA BRING MY BOYFRIEND TO DO THIS WITH ME

  • @MrRedd-tf7rv
    @MrRedd-tf7rv Місяць тому

    I think this is really cool

  • @ulysses-101-
    @ulysses-101- Місяць тому

    Aw yeah

  • @robertbenson1957
    @robertbenson1957 Місяць тому

    Your description if primitive pottery could also apply to things made from copper, bronze, or iron.

  • @BAR-Lifted
    @BAR-Lifted 27 днів тому

    This was very informative and inspiring! Great date idea.. question: Can the clay/material hold the same if there are irrigation holes at the bottom say for cacti or other succulent plants?

  • @yo_mama6414
    @yo_mama6414 25 днів тому +1

    Oh I just did some off camera mining
    *Makes whole other pot and pipe*

  • @haywire4212
    @haywire4212 Місяць тому

    Im always down for more bush pottery! Andy Ward is great, but it seems like he intentionally leaves out info at times.
    Im definitely no master potter, but it is my understanding that you shouldnt burnish if you are using certain temper materials, with sand and grog being two that you shouldnt.

  • @Texasthebeststate-in-u.s
    @Texasthebeststate-in-u.s 29 днів тому

    Could you show us how you get the clay, the stuff I get is usually super watery

  • @mrdante9154
    @mrdante9154 Місяць тому +1

    new subscriber!

  • @nitrophoenix9910
    @nitrophoenix9910 Місяць тому +1

    How well does burnishing help to retain liquids? I want to make a few bowls to eat out of, but I have a feeling soups and other liquids might seep in and spoil, making it less than sanitary.

    • @sagesmokesurvival
      @sagesmokesurvival  Місяць тому +1

      Melt beeswax and swirl it around the warmed bowl. Pour out the excess, and wipe it dry. It becomes pretty watertight after that

  • @tomato9651
    @tomato9651 28 днів тому

    very nice video

  • @hipihypnoctice
    @hipihypnoctice Місяць тому

    I believe your leaving air bubbles in the pinched coils

    • @sagesmokesurvival
      @sagesmokesurvival  Місяць тому

      Sometimes that’s not as detrimental as modern potters think. This clay is porous from the sand that was added, and expanding air is able to escape

  • @dustinsmith8341
    @dustinsmith8341 10 днів тому

    Wont those "failures" still work for your purpose though? Especially the bowl which doesnt look like it has any cracks

  • @WhistleintheWind
    @WhistleintheWind 28 днів тому

    Can one use potting soil and sand?

  • @MidnightBlade22
    @MidnightBlade22 15 днів тому

    I want to add that people need to know what is in their soil before they attempt to eat or drink from homemade clay vessels. There is an area where i like to go hiking or camping that is known as the lead belt. There are natural deposits of lead that get erroded and mixed into the soils around there. Clay scavenged from that area should not be used for food or drinking water.
    The natitional parks in the area all have signs warning people not to eat off the ground, or make sure their kids dont eat the dirt.

  • @joeltower5964
    @joeltower5964 28 днів тому

    How long does it need to be red hot in the fire before the cooling process?

  • @JuaneDosesII-wj6dd
    @JuaneDosesII-wj6dd 16 днів тому

    As a primitive, I approve

  • @ucantSQ
    @ucantSQ Місяць тому

    I tried doing this last year, but I developed a temporary hyperthyroid condition that lasted about two months. I'm not sure, but I'm guessing that the clay I was working in was poisoned somehow. I lost nearly 30lbs, it was a miserable experience. I think I'll make my pots out of pine branches coated with pine pitch instead.

  • @YeahahWakand
    @YeahahWakand Місяць тому +1

    Boosting algo

  • @loriekaczmarek9788
    @loriekaczmarek9788 26 днів тому

    That orangish clay pot, is it made from ohio clay? We have that kind of clay in n.w. ohio.i use it for pots. I like to do incision decorations after I fire mine. That orange color shows up good with the shiny black . As for pipes, get a small Y stick. Skinny side is your stem, fat side is your bowl. You might have to bend it a bit to get the shape you want. Anyhow, then press clay around entire pipe skeleton, smooth and press it so it's even thickness all over . Burnished and decorate as you did on pots. Then fire. Stick will burn out.

    • @loriekaczmarek9788
      @loriekaczmarek9788 26 днів тому

      I use sand ,cottonwood fluff, and old clam shells that turn into powder when you crush them for temper with the orangish clay where I'm at with good results.

  • @ronaldgoodrich5460
    @ronaldgoodrich5460 Місяць тому

    Dose useing a plastic bucket taint the primitive?

  • @Someguy25745
    @Someguy25745 Місяць тому

    where do you get clay

  • @underoakhobbies858
    @underoakhobbies858 Місяць тому

    Where can I get a gourd scrapper if I don’t have any gourds till I grow some next year? Any suggestions/recommendations?

    • @sagesmokesurvival
      @sagesmokesurvival  Місяць тому

      From Andy Ward’s website. Search him up here on UA-cam.

  • @longjohn8735
    @longjohn8735 23 дні тому

    So I've gone out and gathered clay near a stream bed sadly it's red clay but I'm gonna try an figure it out. I know I can find grey a bit further up stream but I might try and figure out how to use this red clay it just seems to be a little too wet is this common?

    • @cmhrr
      @cmhrr 18 днів тому

      Just let it dry out until it feels right. But there is more that goes into processing wild clay for use, depending on its qualities. For instance, if it's not plastic enough (i.e. cracks/tears when you make a coil and wrap it around your finger). You can fix that by mixing in some other stuff, like some water from boiling rice + a splash of vinegar. But if it's naturally too plastic, that means it's very dense and is more prone to cracking as it dries; that's where adding temper comes in, making it more porous so water moves through it more evenly for drying, and giving it more structural integrity by reducing shrinkage. All wild clay will require temper, but at different ratios. Lots of trial and error.

  • @ratatoskr1069
    @ratatoskr1069 Місяць тому

    Latin: primitivus; English: first of its kind

  • @Yuri-we9be
    @Yuri-we9be 29 днів тому

    This is what a "reality TV show" strives to be.

  • @user-eg3mo3dy5y
    @user-eg3mo3dy5y Місяць тому

    🤠👍👌

  • @egay86292
    @egay86292 28 днів тому

    "duh!" said the primate.

  • @Self-DiscoveryExploration
    @Self-DiscoveryExploration 10 днів тому

    People can’t believe this is real so they aren’t clicking on it lol

  • @alexyang8922
    @alexyang8922 28 днів тому

    Get yo self a friend who’ll smell and rank clay with you