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I'm the opposite as I can't play any games that's in first person. I get headaches just watching it. It's even worse when I'm playing. I don't mind the first person battles, I just can't do the first person perspective when walking / running around.
Damn, im impressed. I am happy games like this are still being made. I took much more risks with RPGs in the DS and 3DS days with Dark Spire and Etrian Odyssey being the first "ok, lets see what this is about" impulse buys. Dark Spire being pretty good and Etrian Odyssey becoming a major series (hope it comes back). But since the Switch I haven't taken as many risks, partially I guess because of the steeper price points, but also because I buy so many games on the e shop as opposed to physically and the E shop is filled with so much absolute garbage if I see a game that isn't "name brand" I immediately assume RPG maker/Unity asset flip game. This one looks really good though, so even for the steep price im down. Honestly especially because of the "the game is very grindy" line. I see some games try and get away from being grindy and often just become easy instead. The ideal method is emphasis on technical play and sufficient leveling speed to not be over levelled but not under levelled either for each major encounter, but since that is very hard to do optimally I personally much prefer a bit too much grinding over a walk in the park, as otherwise whats the point of all that team building (Like, for instance, normal pokemon games. You CAN build a really cool and competitive team of 6 or just literally catch any random Pokémon you see and steamroll the game. So why bother)
i noticed that when u dont have a party you level faster, and enemies only appear in a single line, better for aoe. here's how i go solo, pick fighter for cyclone and self heal +counter attack/later in the game you will unlock the brain ability which allows you to use your aoe without using mana you can clear whole dungeon map while having full hp and mp. one man army right there. i dont know why but playing this solo felt like dark souls.
Other than the Spirit Hunter series, I've never played any of Experience's first-person RPGs, though I have the 2 New Tokyo Legacy games (Operation Babel and Operation Abyss) and I heard they were easy enough to consider them as gateway to the subgenre. This new one looks interesting enough to try out honestly. Great review, guys!
I’ve had my eye on this game since it was announced not just for the gameplay but for the amazing aesthetic. I truly thought it was gonna end up Japan only since J-Crawls are such a niche fan base here in the states but once I saw it was launching this year I preordered it next day. The end of my year is gonna be rotating my Switch between this, SMTV & Disco Elysium FC.
Stupid question, i dont know this genre but to me it looks very familiar, since it seems to be just a different take on what western CRPGs used to look like. Not sure if you're familiar but basically Legend of Grimrock 1 and 2 is a modernizing of that type of game play. Do you know how these DRPGs differt from those other games? Alot more grind? What else is different?
@@LaymensLament The LoG games differ in that the critters are always visible, and move around in real time, creating a different sort of combat vibe where you dodge/attack/dodge. In Undernauts and this type of game, nothing will ever happen while you just stand there. Monsters also do not move around the maze - there are random encounters and static monsters, but you don’t see monsters moving around like in Grimrock. Additionally, Grimrock has light puzzle elements with moving floors and fireball traps - Undernauts does not have any of that sort of thing, due to the strictly turn based nature and no real-time things like fireballs to dodge. They are complimentary games to each other, but with several big differences. Both are fun, and Undernauts is extremely well done IMO. I recommend it completely.
Makes me think the anime/manga Black Company also the game series Etrian odyssey with the jobs and boost plus dungeon mapping i really enjoy the Etrian odyssey so happy it sounds like am going to love this game as well.
There is literally nothing new about making your own path in dungeon levels, you can do that in Labyrinth of Refrain and Lost Child as well, among many others.
Seems like the Sword City/Saphire Wings collection on PC might've gotten a bugfix? Saw some issues on the Steam forums previously, but it seems to be much better now.
There's a solid chance that we buy this game some time, and this review is a key reason for it. The concept of carving our own path is really interesting!
"Unfortunately it's an all too familiar gameplay loop." Really? Like a Pokemon game? Or a Dragon Quest game? Familiarity is bad, I guess? Why do you think this might be Experience's best DRPG? Is it because you don't know? Or you haven't played the others but you kind of like this one? I give your review 6/10.
It looks nice (art-wise) and interesting and my type of game, but what's with the almost 60$ starting price in steam. This is not a triple A game like Arise or a Square Enix game, and it is not like you are importing a physical disc from Japan. I would definitely support this if they price it like around 30 to 40. Sapphire Wings cost 50$, from the same dev, and that game at least contain 2 games in one. So I'll probably just wait for a sale for this.
@@hex1233 I get the physical copy. But digital, 60$ is too high. This is not as big budget game as Arise or Guardians of the Galaxy or Bravely Default in the PC. Those I understand the tag price. Sapphire is 50$, and that's 2 games in one. So this should be 40 to 50 at most.
Own on the Switch, love the setting and gameplay mechanics. Graphics on the Switch are excellent and work perfect with the Switch's portability. Highly recommend this for people who like dungeon crawlers.
Usually First person dungeon crawling RPG’s are quite lengthy, Sometimes could take you 100+ hrs. At least for this genre from my experience, Etrian Odyssey, Mary skelter 2 & Labyrinth of refrain Coven of dusk are the most recent games that I played that took about 100+hrs.
Inject all XP inc games into my veins. Not enough first person dungeon crawlers that aren't "cutesy" and have deep enough party building and mechanics (RIP Etrian Odyssey)
The problem with the game is that it is extremely slow, the slowest I've played so far and I'm not even talking about the gameplay, even to start a simple dialog takes 15 to 25 seconds which is a long time considering that the game is full of dialogues.
But how, as a player, do you overcome incredibly samey drab levels? Game completely lacks any sense of exploration with this level of (non-existent) detail.
I love when games like this come to the west. We need more of them.
@d R If you do not like it then do not buy it. Go back to your mindless, repetitive, Call of Duty games.
@@donaldxavier2056 Not the point. It's lackluster compared to something like Vaporium; and they're charging $60 USD for this.
Is it better than bards tale 4?
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@@NoisyPixelNews the betrayal
@@AceBonanza Top 10 anime betrayals
Experience’s Spirit Hunter series, Stranger of Sword City, and now this! Love them!
Would love to see this in VR. Played through Operencia (very similar gameplay style) in VR and it was magical!
Hello! I love Experience‘s Dungeon Crawler and didn‘t even notice this game coming over. Thank you for reviewing it! I will get this one for sure :)
Awesome thanks for checking it out
I'm the opposite as I can't play any games that's in first person. I get headaches just watching it. It's even worse when I'm playing. I don't mind the first person battles, I just can't do the first person perspective when walking / running around.
Damn, im impressed.
I am happy games like this are still being made. I took much more risks with RPGs in the DS and 3DS days with Dark Spire and Etrian Odyssey being the first "ok, lets see what this is about" impulse buys. Dark Spire being pretty good and Etrian Odyssey becoming a major series (hope it comes back). But since the Switch I haven't taken as many risks, partially I guess because of the steeper price points, but also because I buy so many games on the e shop as opposed to physically and the E shop is filled with so much absolute garbage if I see a game that isn't "name brand" I immediately assume RPG maker/Unity asset flip game.
This one looks really good though, so even for the steep price im down. Honestly especially because of the "the game is very grindy" line. I see some games try and get away from being grindy and often just become easy instead. The ideal method is emphasis on technical play and sufficient leveling speed to not be over levelled but not under levelled either for each major encounter, but since that is very hard to do optimally I personally much prefer a bit too much grinding over a walk in the park, as otherwise whats the point of all that team building (Like, for instance, normal pokemon games. You CAN build a really cool and competitive team of 6 or just literally catch any random Pokémon you see and steamroll the game. So why bother)
i noticed that when u dont have a party you level faster, and enemies only appear in a single line, better for aoe. here's how i go solo, pick fighter for cyclone and self heal +counter attack/later in the game you will unlock the brain ability which allows you to use your aoe without using mana you can clear whole dungeon map while having full hp and mp. one man army right there. i dont know why but playing this solo felt like dark souls.
The premise of this game has a great potential for an anime or movie adaptation.
Totally!
Gate is kinda close.
Other than the Spirit Hunter series, I've never played any of Experience's first-person RPGs, though I have the 2 New Tokyo Legacy games (Operation Babel and Operation Abyss) and I heard they were easy enough to consider them as gateway to the subgenre. This new one looks interesting enough to try out honestly.
Great review, guys!
Thanks! This one is pretty deep and a game you’ll want to invest into for sure
I saw this on Amazon the other day and just with a few screenshots I knew I wanted this. Thank for the review.
I had seen this full price game randomly on the new games list on PS. Thank you for this in-depth video on it!
I’ve had my eye on this game since it was announced not just for the gameplay but for the amazing aesthetic. I truly thought it was gonna end up Japan only since J-Crawls are such a niche fan base here in the states but once I saw it was launching this year I preordered it next day. The end of my year is gonna be rotating my Switch between this, SMTV & Disco Elysium FC.
Stupid question, i dont know this genre but to me it looks very familiar, since it seems to be just a different take on what western CRPGs used to look like. Not sure if you're familiar but basically Legend of Grimrock 1 and 2 is a modernizing of that type of game play. Do you know how these DRPGs differt from those other games? Alot more grind? What else is different?
@@LaymensLament The LoG games differ in that the critters are always visible, and move around in real time, creating a different sort of combat vibe where you dodge/attack/dodge. In Undernauts and this type of game, nothing will ever happen while you just stand there. Monsters also do not move around the maze - there are random encounters and static monsters, but you don’t see monsters moving around like in Grimrock. Additionally, Grimrock has light puzzle elements with moving floors and fireball traps - Undernauts does not have any of that sort of thing, due to the strictly turn based nature and no real-time things like fireballs to dodge. They are complimentary games to each other, but with several big differences. Both are fun, and Undernauts is extremely well done IMO. I recommend it completely.
Thanks for the review
Makes me think the anime/manga Black Company also the game series Etrian odyssey with the jobs and boost plus dungeon mapping i really enjoy the Etrian odyssey so happy it sounds like am going to love this game as well.
How long is this game and how difficult is it compared to Stranger of Sword City? Been interested in this game but the $60 is a bit steep
Yeah it seems unbelievably steep at 60. I could see $40 since it’s so deep but $60 is really a high level
I've seen a guy beat it in 35 hours. Also, it's harder imo
There is literally nothing new about making your own path in dungeon levels, you can do that in Labyrinth of Refrain and Lost Child as well, among many others.
Idk if I should buy for Swith or Series X
Game on my radar now
Seems like the Sword City/Saphire Wings collection on PC might've gotten a bugfix?
Saw some issues on the Steam forums previously, but it seems to be much better now.
This reminds me of Strange Journey
About how long is the game to complete the story mode? Debating between this and starting Mary skelter for Halloween 🎃
thanks for the review!
Thanks for the review! It's on sale right now on Xbox. Does it have difficulty selection?
20 bucks on amazon now... worth it?
you know what missing in these kinds of games?
the FOEs
Loved how they both made the first visit to a new floor a sneaky, tense affair, and a later visit challenging but with a sense of absolute bad-assery.
i didnt know i needed this game! $20 on woot today for PS5
good review
More I look at this, the memories of Wizardry come flooding back. Brutally tough.....Challenge Accepted. 😏
I’m so hyped for this. Did you see any noticeable slowdown or long load times on switch version?
runs smooth had it for a week now
Don't ever buy a third party game on Switch if you have a better platform to play it on.
@@danbooke2001 eh, I’ve put 20 hours into this game on Switch and it runs great. This isn’t a particularly demanding first person dungeon crawler
Just heard about this a few days ago, surprised I didn't know sooner. It's on the budget.
This game looks amazing
Nice short review.
Game looks great! I JUST pre-orderes the physical for Switch like 2 days ago. Thought the game would look great on my Shiney new Switch Oled!
How are you liking the screen?
@@NoisyPixelNews I'm loving it. I find myself playing in handheld mode ALOT more than I used to.
The OLED makes colors pop out very nice
How would you compare this to Stranger of Sword City?.
It’s about the same idea, but the narrative is darker and the systems are highly improved from a UI standpoint
Looks similar to Wizardry, but man, that UI seems so cluttered, especially the mini map right in the top center.
There's a solid chance that we buy this game some time, and this review is a key reason for it. The concept of carving our own path is really interesting!
"Unfortunately it's an all too familiar gameplay loop." Really? Like a Pokemon game? Or a Dragon Quest game? Familiarity is bad, I guess? Why do you think this might be Experience's best DRPG? Is it because you don't know? Or you haven't played the others but you kind of like this one? I give your review 6/10.
Dude that was like the only moderately negative thing he said
It looks nice (art-wise) and interesting and my type of game, but what's with the almost 60$ starting price in steam. This is not a triple A game like Arise or a Square Enix game, and it is not like you are importing a physical disc from Japan. I would definitely support this if they price it like around 30 to 40. Sapphire Wings cost 50$, from the same dev, and that game at least contain 2 games in one. So I'll probably just wait for a sale for this.
A physical copy was made for the Switch. That was my excuse.
@@hex1233 I get the physical copy. But digital, 60$ is too high. This is not as big budget game as Arise or Guardians of the Galaxy or Bravely Default in the PC. Those I understand the tag price. Sapphire is 50$, and that's 2 games in one. So this should be 40 to 50 at most.
Yessss. It's been so long since a proper dungeon crawler was released.
Have you played Stranger of Sword City and Labyrinth of Refrain: Coven of Dusk?.
@@henriettereines6273 I have played those on PS4 and Vita yes.
@@audiocorps2334 Did you like them?.
Own on the Switch, love the setting and gameplay mechanics. Graphics on the Switch are excellent and work perfect with the Switch's portability.
Highly recommend this for people who like dungeon crawlers.
Is this a 60+ hour game?
For me it certainly will be.
Usually First person dungeon crawling RPG’s are quite lengthy, Sometimes could take you 100+ hrs. At least for this genre from my experience, Etrian Odyssey, Mary skelter 2 & Labyrinth of refrain Coven of dusk are the most recent games that I played that took about 100+hrs.
Another good rpg!!! Too many lol. I bought Caligula Effect 2 because of your review already! Wasn’t disappointed it’s great but my wallet lol
For the pc, what would be the best drpgs to go for?
This reminds me of the old ds game called Theresia. With the first person dungeon crawling.
Subbed
Inject all XP inc games into my veins.
Not enough first person dungeon crawlers that aren't "cutesy" and have deep enough party building and mechanics (RIP Etrian Odyssey)
wow this game sounds cool
It's a decent game
Ugh. I dont know which one to buy out of the recent jrpg games that drop. They all look solid except for dungeon encounters
This reminds me of Meikyuu Black Company
interested
The problem with the game is that it is extremely slow, the slowest I've played so far and I'm not even talking about the gameplay, even to start a simple dialog takes 15 to 25 seconds which is a long time considering that the game is full of dialogues.
God, I really want to play this, but just can't justify paying $60 for it, let alone it not being physical.
It got a physical release.
@@Ponaru Yeah, picked it up on my Xbox from a Gamefly sale not long ago.
I want to play this but to pay $60 for a digital only dungeon crawler is just insane. drop the price 50% and i'll buy it. this is stupid.
A bird rat is a pigeon.
You sold me on it.
Well there goes my wallet 🥴
tanx 4 the rev
The "Megami" in Shin Megami Tensei is pronounced "Mega-Me" not "Mug-om-me", FYI
Wrong. Look it up Einstein
@@jimmymackinnon8474 I lived in Japan for 4 years and my wife is Japanese, Einstein
Totally forgot about this one!!! Insta buy.
Goddamn, I woulda paid full price for this. Too bad they decided not to release it in PAL regions arbitrarily.
But they do!
It's on PC.
But how, as a player, do you overcome incredibly samey drab levels? Game completely lacks any sense of exploration with this level of (non-existent) detail.
How did I not know this came out . Wtf they need to do adds for this WTF
60 bucks on switch. these people are on drugs.
It looks fun, but that 1st person camera angle makes me shudder. I'd rather play from a top down perspective
Idk..
This was not what I expected when I seen " Role Playing Game, Dungeon Crawler"...
Don't think this ones for me.
it's a dungeon crawler and a role playing game though
$60 for a low budget mobile-tier game? Yeah no thanks.
Lmao its 60?
Mobile tier? Okay kid.
Think I’d rather play a pipboy game in fallout 76 called Grognak. Idk, just not my type.. would like better visuals then just player cards.