Why Black is Better! - Firearms finishes and refinishes (Ep. 2)

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  • Опубліковано 1 сер 2024
  • This Tech video is part of our Fusion Firearms library on choices to be made when doing the finishing or refinishing of a firearms. Overall the most popular color in finishes is black and which is the best finish to choose for you budget and use. We Hope that these instructional videos will help you with the decision making on firearms finishes. Feel free to comment or contact us at the factory if you need help.
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  • @thinman8621
    @thinman8621 Рік тому

    Excellent synopsis of finish choices that are reasonably available. Thank you.

  • @flea-kh7om
    @flea-kh7om 4 роки тому +2

    Awesome video Bob! Great info on most all the finishes and how the stand up. Merry Christmas to you and the crew, Vern

    • @fusionfirearms
      @fusionfirearms  4 роки тому

      Thank you Sir, Merry Christmas to you and your Family also!

  • @azazelakira12
    @azazelakira12 Рік тому

    Great info, I learn something today. I'll keep watching your videos to decide what gun I want for you guys

    • @fusionfirearms
      @fusionfirearms  Рік тому +1

      Thank you for joining in and your nice comments

  • @gibanez1203
    @gibanez1203 2 роки тому +1

    I just bought one of your Bantam r guns because I am a big Dan Wesson fan and you were the CEO , I hope that it does not disappoint, and it is as good as my Dan Wesson pistols. You sound like you are a really hands on guy that knows your stuff keep up the goos work Bob!

    • @fusionfirearms
      @fusionfirearms  2 роки тому +1

      Thank you for the super comments and purchase. The Fusion pistols are selling real well and we are still back-ordered into the start of summer 2022 already. Thank you all for your super support.

  • @ViaAvione
    @ViaAvione 2 роки тому

    Thank you for sharing

  • @Rocketsong
    @Rocketsong 4 роки тому +2

    Great video Bob, very informative. I have a Dan Wesson Vigil with a ferretic nitro-carbonized finish, outstanding finish. Definitely my top choice, at least for the slide.

    • @fusionfirearms
      @fusionfirearms  4 роки тому +1

      Excellent!! thank you for the nice comments!

  • @yellowjacket548
    @yellowjacket548 2 роки тому

    Great video!

  • @alexanderbender3082
    @alexanderbender3082 Рік тому +2

    Great video. Makes me feel justified buying one of your 1911s.

    • @fusionfirearms
      @fusionfirearms  Рік тому +1

      Right on, thank you for joining in and for the very nice comments!

  • @ScottAT
    @ScottAT 4 роки тому +2

    Duracoat on top of parkerized steel creates one heck of a bond. That combination works extremely well, especially if you go gloss.

    • @fusionfirearms
      @fusionfirearms  4 роки тому

      Good to know, thanks for commenting

    • @theprepperrevelator
      @theprepperrevelator 2 роки тому

      @Scott you are absolutely correct, it really helps with durability.

  • @kirkjones9639
    @kirkjones9639 3 роки тому +1

    Again, another outstanding video. You should have quoted The Man "Comes in any color you like, as long as it's Black.", he got away with that in the world market for 19 years.

    • @fusionfirearms
      @fusionfirearms  3 роки тому

      Well said.... thank you for the nice comments.

  • @harrycallahan692
    @harrycallahan692 4 роки тому +2

    Nothing beats a nice hot salt bluing over a polished metal. If Fusion Firearms did it would be one notch up on your fine pistols!

    • @fusionfirearms
      @fusionfirearms  4 роки тому +2

      We do hot salts bath here at this time. the high polish we can do, it just adds a lot of labor and cost. But we do this on a custom basis. it is a beautiful finish when done this way.

  • @alexanderguzman6235
    @alexanderguzman6235 4 роки тому +10

    This has literally been the best video explaining the different finishes I have yet to see online! Great job Bob!
    In additions to the various colors I think it would be great to have a video explaining what actually works well for Aluminum frames as well.

    • @fusionfirearms
      @fusionfirearms  4 роки тому +2

      Sounds good... We will do a video on Al Frames soon.

  • @9unslin9er
    @9unslin9er 2 роки тому

    I just realized from this video why the Gen5 Glocks get so much wear on their barrels. The DLC coating on the slide scrapes the hell out of the nitride barrel. Really wish they would just nitride the slide instead.

  • @ScottAT
    @ScottAT 4 роки тому +1

    I have 3 6” longslides. Then you had to come out with a 7”. Lol. I’m going to have to build one now.

    • @fusionfirearms
      @fusionfirearms  4 роки тому +1

      Sweet!,... I really love the 7 inches, they are super stable to shoot.

  • @melanehme3661
    @melanehme3661 9 місяців тому +1

    "You can have any color car you want, as long as it's black" --Henry Ford 😆😂🤣

  • @abe1365
    @abe1365 2 роки тому

    Thank you for this video! What black finish, if any, would you recommend for a stainless S&W revolver?

  • @273VIPER
    @273VIPER 3 роки тому

    Gorgeous! What triggers are those?

    • @fusionfirearms
      @fusionfirearms  3 роки тому

      They are our fusion triggers that are on our website

  • @RidersRange
    @RidersRange 4 роки тому +1

    Now you have me re-thinking the DLC - it may not be the best option. As Alexander Guzman commented, I'd like more info on finishes for alloy frame guns.

    • @fusionfirearms
      @fusionfirearms  4 роки тому +1

      Good question... We will do a Video on this.
      Thanks for commenting

  • @harrycallahan692
    @harrycallahan692 4 роки тому

    Bob...I have a 1911 that is parkerized. What are my re-finishing options? Can you strip it and give it hot salt bluing or nitrocarburizing? Or I am stuck with it being parkerized? Thanks.

    • @fusionfirearms
      @fusionfirearms  4 роки тому +3

      Hi Harry, You can strip it, that is no problem and either the salt black oxide or the black shield Nitro will both work, the nitro will last much longer.

  • @markbotta8567
    @markbotta8567 4 роки тому

    Is the nitro carburizing the same as your Black Shield Melonite option?

    • @fusionfirearms
      @fusionfirearms  4 роки тому

      Yes, Out Black shield Melonite process includes all the prep-work, De-horning, blasting ...etc.

  • @theprepperrevelator
    @theprepperrevelator 2 роки тому

    Nighthawk offers DLC in black, gold, and rose gold. I have a gun with polished flats and DLC and it is spectacular, especially for the durability. It looks almost like a blued gun. I know this video is a year old and maybe they didn’t have the additional colors back then so more of a FYI.
    Rick

    • @fusionfirearms
      @fusionfirearms  2 роки тому +1

      Yes, those are very nice finishes, but quite expensive. Also, failure rate during manufacturing of the DLC finishes is quite high.

  • @luciengutierrez431
    @luciengutierrez431 2 роки тому

    Had my new canik gun which will be my daily cc sandblasted and was gonna go with black digital but unsure if I want to do any camo or what color. Any tips for a cc that’s going to be cerakoted?

    • @fusionfirearms
      @fusionfirearms  2 роки тому

      Yes, Go all black, and Black shield Nitro carbonate. it will hold up best to the holster wear...etc for carry.

  • @weirdorwhat7294
    @weirdorwhat7294 2 роки тому

    So how much to strip the black off my rock island 1911 .45 give it a serious high mirror polish and salt bath blue, a real nice polished blue is my favorite

  • @eisenkrieg553
    @eisenkrieg553 4 роки тому +1

    Can you combine the black oxide with the nitro carburizing? As I understand stand the carburizing process, it hardens the steel itself and so it shouldn't have a problem accepting a black oxide layer, right?

    • @fusionfirearms
      @fusionfirearms  4 роки тому

      Sir, their is no need to, the nitro gives a very rich and deep black finish. But, you could black oxide over the nitro carborizing if you wanted.

    • @eisenkrieg553
      @eisenkrieg553 4 роки тому

      @@fusionfirearms Well it's nice to know that they would work together. I know that the nitro carburizing renders the black oxide redundant but I'm interested if the combination would result in a particular look for a black gun. I'm not aware of any samples showing both processes.

  • @RafaRam-ut6qr
    @RafaRam-ut6qr Рік тому

    Hey fusion what is best way to remove parkerizing finish ?

    • @fusionfirearms
      @fusionfirearms  Рік тому

      I Generally use glass bead or Aluminum oxide media and blast it off, in a blast cabinet

  • @SevenDeMagnus
    @SevenDeMagnus Рік тому

    New subscriber here.

  • @Whitehawkvisionfilms
    @Whitehawkvisionfilms 9 місяців тому

    What finish would be best for a gun sights? I am looking for a finish for my sights that is effing BLACK and flat. What would you recommend?

    • @fusionfirearms
      @fusionfirearms  9 місяців тому

      I would just bead blast it and cold blue. Or just spray paint if they are off the gun. You can get fancy with cerakote, hot black oxide(Bluing) or many other finishes but many do not have the equipment.

  • @jeffd5310
    @jeffd5310 2 роки тому

    What is the best black finish for stainless?

  • @butthole2954
    @butthole2954 2 роки тому

    Black is the best gun color hands down

  • @Merkaba650
    @Merkaba650 9 місяців тому

    Can you Nitrocarbarize aluminum alloys?

    • @fusionfirearms
      @fusionfirearms  9 місяців тому +1

      No, Only steel or stainless steel. We can ION Bond Aluminum.

  • @SevenDeMagnus
    @SevenDeMagnus Рік тому

    Cool which treatment will prevent a non-stainless steel or non-aluminum (carbon steel I guess, I wish many make almost stainless steel guns- seem only S&W makes it- their Shield Plus ) rust even if you submerge it in wet mud or water for a 3 months? The diamond one?
    Thank you. God bless.

    • @fusionfirearms
      @fusionfirearms  Рік тому +1

      Well, 3 months in mud... I guess I would go with Nitro-Carb(our Black shield) or Ion Bond. If you want a stainless look, than hard chrome. if I had to rate them I would go with 1) Nitro Carb, 2) HD Chrome , 3 Ion Bond. But these are all top shelf finishes.

    • @SevenDeMagnus
      @SevenDeMagnus Рік тому

      @@fusionfirearms Thanks, which one treatment is the most silky smooth (like skating on ice, like Teflon but tough- more so with cool, yet organic oils like Ballistol or do you a better oil compared to Ballistol recommendation)?
      By the way, if I may recommend expansing the horizon for the 21st century- consider treating cars also (there are ceramic clear coatings for cars but I think Nitro-Card, Ion Bond & hard chrome may be better), specifically the upcoming 9mm bullet-proof Cybertruck (I think it'll be bare 30x cold rolled stainless steel metal no lacquer clear coat), many will use that probably for their arsenal for the weekend, outdoors- it has a built-in air pressure for cleaning stuff.
      Thanks have a great weekend.

  • @jesselopez1922
    @jesselopez1922 11 місяців тому

    What finish do you use for Fusion Reaction 1911?

    • @fusionfirearms
      @fusionfirearms  10 місяців тому

      All of the Freedom series is black oxide and we have other finishes to choose from on the website. Ion, Black-Shield...etc

  • @FinalLugiaGuardian
    @FinalLugiaGuardian 4 роки тому

    What type of finishes do the Gen 5 Glocks like the new Glock 17, new Glock 19, new Glock 26, silver Glock 43x, black Glock 43x, silver Glock 48, and black Glock 48 use? I've heard that both of the black and silver Glocks' finish is called "nvd" finish, but I have no idea what "NVD" means.
    And do these new Glock finishes hold up better then the Gen 3 and Gen 4 Glock finishes?
    Please pardon me if this is a dumb question. I don't want to make a dumb purchase if I decide to go with something like a Glock.

    • @fusionfirearms
      @fusionfirearms  4 роки тому

      Not sure, We don't do much with Glock, just some sight mods and some customer send there parts in for black shield Nitro.

    • @FinalLugiaGuardian
      @FinalLugiaGuardian 4 роки тому

      @@fusionfirearms thank you. I appreciate that you gave me a prompt response. I hope you have a good day.

  • @raykirkwood162
    @raykirkwood162 4 роки тому +1

    Interesting

  • @glenngonzalez2647
    @glenngonzalez2647 4 роки тому

    Can you nitro aluminum?

    • @fusionfirearms
      @fusionfirearms  4 роки тому

      Sorry, no... You can use a paint product, Ion Bond or Anodizing

  • @jindrichstariat5821
    @jindrichstariat5821 4 роки тому

    Can you put DLC, or some other PVD, on top of nitro?

    • @fusionfirearms
      @fusionfirearms  4 роки тому

      You can, but, Why? Generally if you want DLC you should start with that. and you would still want to re-prep all parts for DLC.

    • @jindrichstariat5821
      @jindrichstariat5821 4 роки тому

      @@fusionfirearms Well, you said PVD is like an eggshel. So to provide a harder base, I thought.

  • @Oldpigsass
    @Oldpigsass 4 роки тому

    What about black-nickeling? It's something I have only read about, I've never seen a black nickel finish.

    • @fusionfirearms
      @fusionfirearms  4 роки тому +2

      Black Nickel, is not a good choice, 1- it is inconsistent finish depth wise, 2- it does not hold up well. I do not recommend it.

  • @Jawnwickk
    @Jawnwickk 3 роки тому

    is nitro-carbonized listed on your website under "black shield"?
    Thanks

    • @fusionfirearms
      @fusionfirearms  3 роки тому +1

      Yes, the Black-Shield is Nitro-carborizing

    • @Jawnwickk
      @Jawnwickk 3 роки тому

      @@fusionfirearms Thanks. Current turnaround time?

  • @HeavyD45
    @HeavyD45 3 роки тому

    What about armor lube

  • @jesusmontano1337
    @jesusmontano1337 2 роки тому

    What are the options on stainless steel?

    • @fusionfirearms
      @fusionfirearms  2 роки тому +1

      Nitro carborizing( Our Fusion Black Shield), Ion bond, Some PTFE(Teflon products) and Cerakote or spray on finishes

    • @jesusmontano1337
      @jesusmontano1337 2 роки тому

      @@fusionfirearms thank you

  • @psychogamer8950
    @psychogamer8950 2 роки тому

    Is Black Shield is Matte Black??
    Please Answer...

  • @emssmiley2002
    @emssmiley2002 3 роки тому

    Ill stick with BlackT

  • @tonyromano6220
    @tonyromano6220 3 роки тому

    Would spray on tighten up a 1911 frame to slide?

    • @fusionfirearms
      @fusionfirearms  3 роки тому +1

      Hi Tony, Yes, it will until it wears and then it is back to the Sloppy....

  • @oneboyscout3653
    @oneboyscout3653 Рік тому

    Great, except for the constant noise,music??? Almost had to turn it off but endured to the end. Thanks

  • @jameskennedy8329
    @jameskennedy8329 6 місяців тому

    Well shit, I may have been talked out of DLC 😩

  • @dinokarakostas6407
    @dinokarakostas6407 2 роки тому

    Where does Cerakote black fall in this category?

  • @chrischiampo7647
    @chrischiampo7647 4 роки тому

    What Is In Your Opinion The Most Durable Finish ??😎

    • @fusionfirearms
      @fusionfirearms  4 роки тому +1

      It really depends on the "look" you want, But from my 35 years of doing this, I woudl choose our Black Shield Nitro Melonite (Black nitriding), or HD Chrome for silver look. ION Bond DLC is very durable also, BUT,... no attention to detail, about 90% of items I send to Ion Bond I have to reject back for visually crappy finish. So I don't suggest Ion Bond for finishing.

    • @chrischiampo7647
      @chrischiampo7647 4 роки тому

      Fusion Firearms Thank You 😀

  • @pillowpants69er
    @pillowpants69er Рік тому

    Black T not worth talking about?

  • @davidspin5353
    @davidspin5353 Рік тому

    Black is cheap, either phosphate or blueing...

    • @fusionfirearms
      @fusionfirearms  Рік тому +2

      Ok, Lets go to school. Blueing is the street name for Black oxide. Black oxide is the true technical name. The original ‘Old-time” blueing used cyanide and is no longer used for obvious reasons. Phosphate, when most people phosphate the generally black oxide first and then use a secondary bath to Phosphate. Phosphate only give approximately 13% more protection from the elements from standard black oxide. This is why I generally suggest, instead of going through the extra expense of phosphating, your jump to nitro carb( our Fusion Black Shield), Cerakote or Ion Bond DLC treatment. You will get much more value for your $$.

  • @MSS-wx5fd
    @MSS-wx5fd 4 місяці тому

    Get rid of distracting background music please! It detracts from the content

    • @fusionfirearms
      @fusionfirearms  3 місяці тому

      Yes, we have changed this in all new videos

  • @Dacos127
    @Dacos127 3 роки тому +1

    Biased much? Your description of DLC was piss-poor. Not an eggshell whatsoever.

    • @fusionfirearms
      @fusionfirearms  3 роки тому +1

      Really, please then take the opportunity to explain yourself. The coating is less that .0002" in thickness and does nothing to harden the base material.

  • @mikecr4916
    @mikecr4916 3 роки тому

    Lack of any focus --> Ritalin --> you need it
    Seriously, write down your ramblings here on paper & try to get through a reading of it...

    • @fusionfirearms
      @fusionfirearms  3 роки тому +8

      You need to go to another channel if you don't like our content. We do this for Free, with spare time we do not have, to try to help people with real information not just infomercial BullSh**

  • @HeavyJ318
    @HeavyJ318 3 роки тому +1

    Great videos! What would be the most durable finish to have gloss black finish? Like darth vaders helmet glossy.

    • @fusionfirearms
      @fusionfirearms  3 роки тому +1

      Pretty much there is none other than the paint products