3 Calvinist countries you DIDNT know about!
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If you are speak Hungarian, Portuguese, or Korean, and are into Reformed theology, make a Reformed youtube channel and I will promote it
Brazil mentioned!!🎉🎉🎉🎉🇧🇷👍
aleluia hahah
Hey Zoomer! South Korean viewer here. As soon as I saw the title I knew Korea would be included. Thank you so much for mentioning us!
A few minor details regarding the Presbyterian churches (or Christianity in general) here tho:
1) The church government has become quite unique for being Presbyterian.
It's less so on the more conservative denominations, but our synods and presbyteries in general have less authority and power, each individual church having more power.
(Synods and presbyteries are to have more authority according to the church law, but the power shifts happen often)
Not all churches are, but there are many churches here that has become so big (we have the 5 biggest churches in Asia, if I remember correctly) that some of those individual churches have basically become their own denomination.
In short, it's a mix of the Presbyterian system with a spoon or two of individual church government mixed into it.
2) Churches in Korea experienced a massive revival through the 70~80's, exploding on the growth in quantities (Many people converted to Christianity and many new churches were built accordingly.)
However, starting from the 2010's, South Korea has been experiencing a significant decline in population. So much so that there are some studies that show Korea would no longer exist in the year 2100, because nobody will be living in it.
So with that comes the decrease in numbers in the next generation. Schools are closing down due to the lack of new students, student numbers have been halved over the last 2 decades or so.
With that came the decline in the church as well, as the cities have withered due to the lack of young people (for many reasons including the lack of newborns), mamy churches also had to close down.
And COVID was the final blow (as much as I hate to say it this way), we actually were prohibited by the government to gather for worship for two years. As the already small young members of the churches lost the face-to-face gathering, many more left the church altogether, even after the pandemic ended.
It's an interesting, yet sad reality. It's like the situation in those mainline churches in the US that you often mention, but it's more of a populational/generational thing than it is theological or political.
I'm thinking of ways to preserve and protect the churches here in Korea from withering out. To anyone who sees this, please pray for us.
3) North Korea was indeed called "Jerusalem of the East". Pyeongyang (now the capital of North Korea) was actually the first region in Korea to experience massive revival (in 1907).
However, as the communist Kim's regime came to power, churches there had to face one of the most brutal prosecutions to ever exist.
However, like how you described the Oriental Orthodox churches in your videos, their faith (the members of the underground churches) has been strengthened like gold, enduring through the harsh prosecution.
I once heard from my youth pastor's seminary,
There was one student who was a North Korean escapee, and he described the current state of the regime to be "nothing but shells left".
He said that "God is intentionally delaying the fall of the communist regime there".
For me, for the church (and the country, for that matter) to become great once again, reunification or the North and the South has to happen.
South Korea is already the country that sends the most missionaries per capita; it is the largest country in Asia that has the biggest Christian infrastructure with sound theology and material for supporting missionaries,
Just imagine what this country could be used for the Kingdom of God when met with the solid, hardened faith of the North Korean churches!
So please pray for Korea. As difficult the issues at hand (the corruption and the decline in population) are,
there are also small, but strong youths of faith that believe God surely has a plan to redeem this situation for his glory.
Again, thanks for your mention!
I love how concise and entertaining your contents are, actually used some of your videos by putting subtitles to show them to my youth branch (I'm also a youth pastor in my church)
Thank you for your hard work and God bless!
(Also, it's true that we are one of the most hard-core Presbyterians in the world... I was absolutely shocked that no other churches around the world would wake up at 5 to go to the early morning church worship, lol)
Hello, Zoomer! I'm a Brazilian christian ans through your videos I learned how surprising and wonderful is that we still have faithful mainline reformed churches here in Brazil.
In fact, the Presbiteryan Church of Brazil is growing in recent years due to an increasing interest in reformed theology in our country.
We have reformed Presbyterian pastors like Agustus Nicodemus who have their sermons watched by thousands on UA-cam and are drawing attention to faithful, God-centered and biblical Christianity.(Augustus was recently invited to become a pastor in the US by the way!)
This is such a blessing. Thanks for your work!
É do Brasil !!!
Benção pela vida dos irmãos presbiterianos no Brasil
Become Catholic.
Read John 6 then pray and reflect whether the Bible and early christianity taught true or spiritual presence in the eurcharist. Come back home to the One Holy Universal and Apostolic church ✝️🙏😊
salve galerinha do zap zap hahah
@@fatalconceit8061 based
I love what you do! You've taught me so much about Christianity and you have helped me convert and teach many of my friends about our Lord and Savior.
he teaches us so much bro he’s so inspirational
Amen ❤
I agree. I was born in a Baptist family and, after being inspired by his videos, went through Calvinist confessional books. The theology just makes a lot more sense!
Ditto fella.
Brazilian Lutheran here. Yeah, we exist and we are not liberal
Que benção irmão !!!
I honestly thought that Brazilians were basically all Roman Catholics!
@@brushychuteshatco30% protestant, mainly pentecostal, 60% catholic, 10% none something like that
Those statues in 4:35 represent the first Eucharist in Brazil in 1557, by the first protestant missionaries that came here sent by John Calvin.
They were all killed due to persecution, but before that they wrote the Guanabara Confession to declare their faith, the first ever protestant and reformed confession of the Americas.
I'm a member of the Presbyterian Church in Brazil, reformed theology has been growing a lot in this land. God bless you for your great content!!
Hey Redeemed Zoomer!
I’m from South Africa 🇿🇦.Had a look at your map now, and I’ve noticed the most prominent churches you have highlighted are the NG (Nederduitse Gereformeerde) Dutch Reformed Church. The Gereformeerde Kerk (GK) is its sister church and we are traditionally seen as more “conservative” in comparison to them, although we are still closely linked.
I second this, in Afrikaans we have the equally mainline “three sister churches”:
- NGK (liberal)
- NHK (centrist)
- GKSA (conservative)
Note: the NGK was legally forced to accept sodemy (“against the country’s constitution”) - the Synods of Namibia, the Northern Cape, and Free State are still conservative (some want to break away).
im a brazilian bapstist, but recently I’ve been looking into reformed theology. As you said there is a lot of anti-intellectualism in a lot of churches, causing that a lot a people have a wrong view of christianity
Qual sua congregação batista? É da CBB, renovada, independente...?
@@davimag2071 a igreja em que congrego não tem uma classificação concreta dentro do espectro batista, mas eu classificaria como batista reformada já que seguem a doutrina calvinista da predestinação
O Brasil tem futuro em cristianizar o mundo
Yeah, it's great to see how much Reformed Theology has been growing in Brazil for the past few years. Unfortunately, as you said, we still have a lot of anti-intellectualism at the churches and I can't help but feel that syncretism is getting much attention nowadays.
@@iggor_01 com certeza existe muito potencial, mas é importante q os valores certos sejam ensinados
Thanks for mentioning Hungary. One thing to note is that we’re Central Europe, not Eastern. Also, the Transylvanian Reformed churches are virtually all Hungarian churches as there are over 1 million Hungarians living there.
For extra context as to why that is, is because Transylvania was under Hungarian rule for centuries and when the reformation hit Hungary it also hit Transylvania.And related historical to this that's why most Romanians are Orthodox(and recently pentacostals and Baptists), because back then to not be a second class citizen or you wanted to be a noble , you had to read/write/speak Hungarian and be roman catholic and later some branches of reformed,so being Orthodox and Romanian essentially became one and the same in the area.
My family is also from the reformed tradition being from Translyvania, and here I have to say in Australia the Hungarian reformed Church is also strongly conservative which makes me respect them. However I have left and now converting to Orthodoxy this Pascha/Easter :)
@@MashedLinux Interesting. Are you Hungarian or Romanian?
God bless our brothers and sisters from across the border! Sending prayers from Transylvania
as a brazilian, the first one really surprised me, your channel brought me up to Christ, and i've been really happy ever since.
The reason why Romania has so many reformed chrches is because the north-western part of Romania (a.k.a. Transylvania) was once part of Hungary and many Hungarians live there to this day. The ethnicaly Romanian people are either eastern orthodox or neo-protestants (baptists/pentecostals). My father has been studying the situation of the Hungarian reformed churches of Transylvaia throughout history, he even wrote his dissertation about them. He could provide valuable reading material if you are curious about the subject.
Awesome! I'd love to see it. I'm not diving into it yet, but I'm fascinated into Romanian intellectuals like Constantin Noica and Mircea Eliade. I guess they're probably Orthodox, so it'd be great to have a broader view on Romanian culture.
Happy New Year and God bless you 🇧🇷🇷🇴
Seeing the map - I now realize I must be the one to map out all the conservative churches in Scandinavia
Do it and send me
I am Brazilian and I've been living in Canada for 6 years now. I love Presbyterianism, even though I'm a non-denominational Christian. I'd be more than happy to help you translate your material to Portuguese and post it on UA-cam.
Oi, amigo, sou presbiteriano aqui do Brasil e também gostaria de ajudar nesta missão.
@@jhonataferreira2204 Opa, perfeito. Vamos ver se ele vai responder e podemos começar a nos organizar.
@@Dudedubbabora nos juntar
Eu fiz umas traduções não autorizadas dos posts dele do Instagram, mas só tenho o texto. Até marquei ele no Twitter (X), mas ele nem disse nada
Thank you Zoomer, I'm from Brazil and I recently became a Presbyterian by watching your videos. You're doing an amazing work!
Read John 6 then pray and reflect whether the Bible and early christianity taught true or spiritual presence in the eurcharist. Come back home to the One Holy Universal and Apostolic church ✝️🙏
Hmm from what I hear classic Reformed thought speaks of *some kind of* real presence. That parttakers of Eucharist really feasts on Body and Blood of Jesus. It is not the same as Roman Catholic view, but I wouldn't say it is not real presence.
@@fatalconceit8061 Rome Anathematized the Gospel at Trent, and thus is Utterly Apostate! it all but committed the Unpardonable Sin at Trent and is now every whit way *Unholy* ! , Rome is the Whore of Babylon, it is Satan's Prostitute, it is the Mother of all Harlots! Repent and Believe the Gospel or Begone!
Thanks for another great video, brother. I am always happy to see your subscriber count growing as your message is great and I believe the Lord is honored in all your work!
Hey Zoomer! I'm a member of one of those presbyterian churches here in Brazil, mine is in your map actually. I have some points I think I should talk about.
There is more than one presbyterian denomination here in Brazil, but the biggest one is still the IPB (Igreja Presbiteriana do Brasil).
The second largest is probably the IPI (Igreja Presbiteriana Independente do Brasil) which split from the IPB in the early 20th century.
Here in Brazil we can observe a different phenomenon from that which is occurring in the mainline churches of the USA. Historically, the progressive churches are the ones that split and run away from the mainline. That is the case with the IPB and the Baptist denominations.
But we also have progressive mainline denominations, mainly a big lutheran one and the anglicans.
Thank God I watched this video! I think I have found my new church in my area looking on the map introduced in this video. From the info I could gather ut Indeed seems much better than the alternatives in my city. Thank you!
Excellent video! I lived in Warsaw, Poland for a year and I intend to move back next year because I love the people and the way of life there; living there felt more like home than my homeland. So excited to see that there is a Continental Reformed church on your map not far from where I used to live. I will absolutely be paying a visit there next time I'm in town and will update on what it's like.
you’re killing it with the uploads lately!!
lol 'Applebee Church Plants'
Presbyterian from Brazil here! Love ur channel. Count on us on whatever u need!!
I've recently been watching Trent Horn videos, and I think a conversation between both of you would be so interesting, regardless of the topic. God bless you!!
Brazilian here, I'd love to make a UA-cam channel about it
My channel is focused on cardboard stuff at the moment
Dear Redeemed Zoomer, I hereby inform you that the Presbyterian Church of Brazil is already extremely popular not only in Brazil but also here in Portugal and has an enormous influence at the theological level, production of online and literary content. Some of the most famous Pastors in Brazil are Presbyterians (Augustus Nicodemus, Hernandes Dias Lopes, etc...). Even here in the Portuguese-speaking world, as we are heavily attacked by Roman Catholics (which we like to call "Romanists"), Baptists and Presbyterians are much more united... And unlike the USA, our independent churches are more associated with Pentecostals -charismatics and not Baptists. In Portugal we can't create the "beautiful reformed churches" that you mention in your videos because there are very few of us here and the purchasing power of our people is much lower than in the USA.
Read John 6 then pray and reflect whether the Bible and early christianity taught true or spiritual presence in the eurcharist. Come back home to the One Holy Universal and Apostolic church ✝️🙏
Um irmão Português! Sou do Brasil e gostaria de saber se tem igrejas presbiterianas em Lisboa ou Coimbra, já que estou querendo fazer um intercâmbio na universidade.
@@fatalconceit8061Is the highlight of John 6 that we must literally eat His flesh and drink His blood or is the highlight that we believe in Him? I will pray and reflect on this but i ask that you do the same. “27 Do not work for the food that perishes, but for the food that endures to eternal life, which the Son of Man will give to you. For on him God the Father has set his seal.” 28 Then they said to him, “What must we do, to be doing the works of God?” 29 Jesus answered them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in him whom he has sent.” 30 So they said to him, “Then what sign do you do, that we may see and believe you? What work do you perform? 31 Our fathers ate the manna in the wilderness; as it is written, ‘He gave them bread from heaven to eat.’” 32 Jesus then said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, it was not Moses who gave you the bread from heaven, but my Father gives you the true bread from heaven. 33 For the bread of God is he who comes down from heaven and gives life to the world.” 34 They said to him, “Sir, give us this bread always.”
35 Jesus said to them, “I am the bread of life; whoever comes to me shall not hunger, and whoever believes in me shall never thirst. 36 But I said to you that you have seen me and yet do not believe. 37 All that the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never cast out. 38 For I have come down from heaven, not to do my own will but the will of him who sent me. 39 And this is the will of him who sent me, that I should lose nothing of all that he has given me, but raise it up on the last day. 40 For this is the will of my Father, that everyone who looks on the Son and believes in him should have eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day.”
41 So the Jews grumbled about him, because he said, “I am the bread that came down from heaven.” 42 They said, “Is not this Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know? How does he now say, ‘I have come down from heaven’?” 43 Jesus answered them, “Do not grumble among yourselves. 44 No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him. And I will raise him up on the last day. 45 It is written in the Prophets, ‘And they will all be taught by God.’ Everyone who has heard and learned from the Father comes to me- 46 not that anyone has seen the Father except he who is from God; he has seen the Father. 47 Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever believes has eternal life. 48 I am the bread of life. 49 Your fathers ate the manna in the wilderness, and they died. 50 This is the bread that comes down from heaven, so that one may eat of it and not die. 51 I am the living bread that came down from heaven. If anyone eats of this bread, he will live forever. And the bread that I will give for the life of the world is my flesh.”
52 The Jews then disputed among themselves, saying, “How can this man give us his flesh to eat?” 53 So Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. 54 Whoever feeds on my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day. 55 For my flesh is true food, and my blood is true drink. 56 Whoever feeds on my flesh and drinks my blood abides in me, and I in him. 57 As the living Father sent me, and I live because of the Father, so whoever feeds on me, he also will live because of me. 58 This is the bread that came down from heaven, not like the bread the fathers ate, and died. Whoever feeds on this bread will live forever.” 59 Jesus said these things in the synagogue, as he taught at Capernaum.”
@@fatalconceit806140 "For my Father’s will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day.” - Sola Fide
"No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws them, and I will raise them up at the last day. 45 It is written in the Prophets: ‘They will all be taught by God.’[d] Everyone who has heard the Father and learned from him comes to me. 46 No one has seen the Father except the one who is from God; only he has seen the Father. 47 Very truly I tell you, the one who believes has eternal life. 48 I am the bread of life" - Sola Gratia / Sola Fide
And we do believe that we eat the flesh and drink the blood of Christ but we receive It spiritually trough the Holy Spirit. The important issue here is what we receive and not how. As long as we believe that we actually eat the flesh and drink the blood there is no explicit contradiction with John 6 It pourpose is not to explain how we receive It.
@@jhonataferreira2204tem sim, inclusive a última igreja Presbiteriana que visitei em Lisboa foi quando o Rev. Nicodemus veio cá pregar... apesar de eu não ser de lá eu sou amigo de alguns membros de lá, fizemos formação do "Prega a Palavra" juntos, então vou pedir o endereço de lá pra eles e depois envio aqui... quanto a Coimbra não conheço, mas vou perguntar também depois te digo algo.
Yo Im a Korean Presbyterian!! Korea has the largest Christian population in East Asia, about 20%. Love your work!! (I live in San Diego btw lol)
What an excellent video! I have really come to love the reformed tradition! I'm even learning dutch so I can attend a dutch reformed service in the Netherlands eventually.
Speaking as a Korean presbyterian, I feel like there isn't really a need to make a specific presbyterian channel for our country, as we already comprise the majority of Christians there.
Hey Zoomer, I'm from Brazil and there are already a lot of channels here from a presbyterian pesuasion, but for me the top two are: Victor Fontana and Paulo Won, both of them very studied theologians, theology professors and pastors.
South Afrca has no less than five Reformed Churches:
- Nederduitse Gereformeerde Kerk,
- Nederduitsch Hervormde Kerk,
- Gereformeerde Kerk,
- Evangelies-Gereformeerde Kerk, and
- Die Afrikaanse Protestantse Kerk.
Not only that, all these churches have historic mussion churches for blacks, colourds and Indians.
Unfortunately the general synod of the NGK does not hold to the conservative theology they were founded on.
@@vdLrsatrue!
You have actually shown the church I was baptized. Keep up with the great job you are doing!
Brazil Mentioned! But Yeah, theres a lot of Charismatic churches however we also have a lot of traditional history in here!
Hey Zoomer, I'm from Australia and I've been looking at your map and rn it's pretty much only prezzie (presbyterian) churches but in Sydney there's a very strong and conservative Anglican diocese. The rest of the country's Anglican churches are liberal, but Sydney specifically is very good so if you're updating the map at some point and you happen to read this comment, it would be great if you could add those. There's also a small congregationalist movement which is the leftovers after the uniting church happened if you wanted to add them as well. I go to a congregational church so I can vouch that they're still conservative. Many thanks mate!
Yes, there also are lot of Conservative Presbyterian Churches in Sydney. One of them is in Westmead where I attended during my short stay in Sydney.
I think this one of my favorite videos from RedeemedZoomer!
Thanks for the overview and there are also conservative churches in Singapore as well
Hungarian Calvinist here!
The church has a big role in public life, with many great schools, a univeristy and a childrens hospital.
The church is declining but not at the rate of chatolic church (altugh the decline started earlier).
Unfortunatly the church alienates itself from the youth by licking the balls of the gavorment/regime. For exchange the gav/regime supports the church in financial and other ways. The political side of it is a bit ugly.
We actually know about the Korean Calvinsts and its like a spiritual brotherhood thing in some folks mind.
Hungarian reformed church is very strong in neigboiring countrys among ethnic hungarians, such as Romania, Slovakia. These Calvinsts are ethnic hungarians living in lands preveiously belonging to Hungary.
I'd be interested to hear more about your perspective on tradition worship styles and what specifically makes them traditional.
Super cool video! Great to know the South Korean church is still conservative. My great grandfather was a missionary in Korea before the war, and taught at the presbytery in Pyongyang
Love this! I am curious about how you determined these churches fit the criteria. It seems like you would need a large dataset or a complicated web scraper to determine which ones are still conservative.
I'm also encouraged by the huge presence of Presbyterians in Brazil. I married a Brazilian and I've heard many crazy things from her friends or family. They definitely take the charismatic beliefs to a whole other level. It borders on witchcraft sometimes but they would die to hear that 🤣
I’m assuming he’s goes to their site and manually checks the “what we believe” section for any confessions.
I’m Brazilian and Baptist, but each day I’m becoming more reformed and Presbyterian. I really want to go to seminary and it is really good to have a conservative reformed mainline church in Brazil, but there are two of them.
There is the IPB (Presbyterian Church of Brazil) which is the biggest and the one you mentioned. There is also the IPI (Independent Presbyterian Church), which also has some relevance, although it is not as famous as the IPB. They split some decades algo due to different thoughts on members participation in masonry. Both tend to be conservative, but IPB is more conservative I would say.
There is also Mackenzie - a great Presbyterian university in Brazil. A lot of IPB pastors are also very famous, with more de 1 million followers on Instagram (while in USA Presbyterian pastors tend not to be as famous as baptist ones). God bless
Sou membro da Ipb e já fui Batista, de qual cidade você é? Se estiver em São Paulo sinta-se convidado a participar de um culto solene na IPBVF
@@claudiobueno94 Que legal, Claudio. Sou de Minas, mas moro em São Paulo mesmo. Vou fazer uma visita sim quando voltar para São Paulo. Obrigado pelo convite!
@@rafaelcoquejo6762 Hahaha, também sou um batista passando pela mesma situação. Eu amo a teologia reformada, me sinto em casa com ela, e admiro muito a pregação presbiteriana. As vezes fico nessa dúvida de pensar se algum dia vou acabar indo para a IPB...
@@claudiobueno94 Caramba, Olha vc por aqui...Pra quem não sabe somos da mesma igreja, hahaha. Quem estiver lendo esse comentário e for de São Paulo, está convidado a visitar a nossa igreja: Igreja Presbiteriana de Vila Formosa, na zona leste
BRAZIL MENTIONED🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥.
Deus abençoe a IPB, a melhor Igreja do Brasil🙏🏻
Wonderful!
I was not expecting these countries especially Souty Korea.
I love how your map perfectly outlines where the historic austria-hungary borders were through churches.
I'm Brazilian, and I speak Portuguese, English and Korean. I think I am lucky today lol. I'll consider creating a UA-cam channel
I'm Indonesian. I think you really missed out Indonesia. Indonesia Has the biggest Calvinist Congregations in ASIA. According to the official Government data, there are as many as 20 million Protestants in Indonesia and at least 10 million of them are members of Calvinist Congregations or Gereja Protestan di Indonesia (GPI).
GKI = 231 Congregations
GPIB = 338 Congregations
GMIM = 1063 Congregations
GPI PAPUA = 400 Congregations
GPM = 725 Congregations
GMIT = 2504 Congregations
And many more small Congregations scattered around the islands of Indonesia.
We also have the biggest LUTHERAN congregation in Asia. No one knows that cuz they see this country as a muslim country😂
Very interesting!
I am a member of the UBF, University Bible Fellowship, and it was started by Korean Presbyterians who immigrated to America.
Thank you from korea!!!
Providence is an OPC church in College Station, TX that was started in 2020. They meet in the showroom of a cabinet business since they are so new, but it is a traditional Presbyterian church. I hope the fact that they don't have their own building yet does not disqualify them from your map.
hungarian reformed believer here, I really like your content, and has learned a lot about our theology from you, I was called to become a Pastor, and I will study Theology in university, hope your reconquista will be successful
Please pray for my girlfriend and me. We need God's help.
He is helping us! Please keep praying!
One of our greatest pastors, Augustus Nicodemus left Brazil and is now preaching on the Esperança Bible Presbyterian Church in Orlando
hey brother zoomer!
i speak spanish and would love to translate videos, but im not sure how to do editing. do i just screen record your videos, take out the audio, and then put new audio over it in spanish using something like iMovie for IOS devices?
which videos do you think would be best to translate for the latinoamérica community?
This one, to show that latin american has presbyterian representation. The one of the all denominations!
North Korea, or perhaps more precisely northern Korea, also had a strong Catholic presence before the Communist takeover. The Maryknoll Fathers, an American organization of missionary priests, had their headquarters not far from Pyongyang. Several of the priests and many of the congregants were martyred there.
I was really surprised to see a Presbyterian Church in the middle of nowhere outside my tiny town on your map but when I clicked on it the church address was many hundred miles away lol
I'm from Presbyterian Church of Brazil and I want to make a YT channel!
I'm a reformed Baptist in Brazil and my girlfriend is a presbyterian! The reformed theology is growing each day in Brazil thanks to the internet. People are eager to learn good theology after decades of either roman catholicism or pentecostal dominance. I highly recommend you Zommer to take a look at those pastors/theologians:
Augustus Nicodemus - Presbyterian
Hernandes Dias Lopes - Presbyterian
Yago Martins - Reformed Baptist
Read John 6 then pray and reflect whether the Bible and early christianity taught true or spiritual presence in the eurcharist. Come back home to the One Holy Universal and Apostolic church ✝️🙏
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Yes. Become Presbyterian.
@@redeemedzoomer6053 You either misspelled "begone presbyterian" or "become presbyterian" by the way did you know you are mentioned on the wiki page for "confessing movement"?
Thanks for the video. The presbyterians in Romania are ethnically Hungarian and speak Hungarian. The Dutch reformed have several churches of which the Christian reformed church is still conservative. The PKN has a strong reformed minority but some of those split off 20 years ago to form the restored Dutch reformed church.
Fun fact! Indonesia unironically has most of it's churches under the calvinist branch, one of the most famous branches brought by the dutch reformed was GPIB(The Western Christian Church of Indonesia) is a calvinist church that was formed from the roots of Dutch Reformed Theologians that came to indonesia!
Makes sense since Indonesia was a Dutch colony
@@ermin2248 I myself am someone who takes pride that my ancestors are one of the co-founders or assistants of the first branches of GKJ (Calvinist Church of Java)
Mainline Presbyterian in NI is the Presbyterian Church in Ireland (PCI), and it has gone very liberal - female ministers, for example. But the Reformed Presbyterian Church has alot of congregations here (were always more "conservative", singing only psalms and not hymns for example), and I'm wondering if you're excluding them thinking they're a much later offshoot? They also exist in Scotland, originating in the seventeenth century so are indeed "historic". And while not as large as the Church of Scotland or PCI, they seem about as numerous - if not more - than Congregationalists today. I think there are a small number in America, and i think they have stayed quite conservative.
Maybe reconsider them as a "mainline"?
Taiwan has a interesting history with the Presbyterian Church. The first western missionary to translate the Bible into Taiwanese in the 19th century was a Canadian presbyterian.
Would you be open to making a map that does include good conservative churches that aren't necessarily of one of the Reformed denominations? Like the aforementioned Baptists?
no
The Center for Baptist Renewal has a map and other resources, though the map is oriented toward those Baptists who align specifically with the Center's vision statement. It doesn't include the many more conservative Baptists around the world.
You're probably not going to read this, but the reason why South Korea (and previously the whole of Korea) has a strong protestant tradition is quite interesting.
At the end of the 19th century, missionary missions started to arrive in Korea. The reason Potestantism caught on was because it was seen as the religion of modernity. The three most powerful and wealthiest countries at the time-the British Empire, the US, and the German Empire-were protestant. So adopting Protestantism was seen by the intelligentsia and middle class as a way to modernize Korea.
A second reason is that Protestantism was adopted by Korean nationalists. For example, the March 1st Movement of 1919 was dominated by protestant converts. They saw this as a way to differentiate themselves from the Japanese and hoped that converting would garner support from the Protestant powers (the Korean Protestant diaspora was very actively lobbying in the US during this period).
It's true that there are a lot of reformed churches in Romania but all of them belong to the Hungarian minority and they worship in Hungarian language only. Historically in Transylvania Hungarians and Germans were Roman Catholic and protestant while Romanians and Ruthenians were eastern Orthodox and Greek Catholic. Nowadays there are protestant Romanians too but they are all converts to "newer" denominations like Baptists, Pentecostals, Adventists, Plymouth Brethren, etc
All of the reformed churches in Romania/Transylvania are heavily tied to the hungarian identity and the hungarian nation, holding mass exclusively in hungarian. For that reason you'll almost never meet a reformed romanian
To improve your map may be useful know that in IPB website there is a map with church adresses
Great timing for my Eu4 campaign where I fight reformed dudes as catholic France:)
I'm a catholic brazilian, but I have to say that the most "practicing christians" in my country are Presbyterian. The most popular denominations in Brazil are neopentecostal with no theology whatsoever, charismatic leaders and concert-like, human-centered worship.
Catholicism unfortunately became a superstition even among catholics. Catholics in Brazil go to mass once in a lifetime, don't know anything about the sacraments, the Church and even Christ. Most parishes are becoming more and more charismatic and a lot like those neopentecostal churches.
Posso afirmar que tb tem o fator do sincretismo :
Com católicos, religiões de matriz africana e espiritismo se tornando uma mistura meio difícil de diferenciar.
É bem comum ter família que metade é de uma dessas 3 e a outra metade da outra
3:00 Nope, St. Pierre Cathedral is likely completely liberalized like the rest of the Protestant Church of Geneva, and like the Swiss Reformed Church in general. It’s especially bad in Geneva, since the Canton of Geneva is completely secular, they adopted a complete separation of church and state in the late 19th to early 20th century. The church has only 50’000 members which is only 10% of the population. Catholics are the majority in the city of Calvinism since the early 20th century! Half of their ministers are women. The Swiss Reformed Church as a whole abandoned all confessional standards in a controversy in the mid-1800s, beginning with the Apostle‘s creed and ending with the abandonment of the glorious Second Helvetic Confession. You‘d be hard-pressed to find any Reformed minister in Switzerland who is as orthodox as Karl Barth was, except for in some peripheral mountain valleys and sparsely populated uplands where the regularly attending parishioners do not exceed the number 20.
In Brazil we have Continental Reformed Church denominations too
Hi Redeemed Zoomer. I'm pretty sure my church, Parkes Presbyterian Church, should be included on the map. We have recorded sermons on UA-cam, if you're interested (started them in Covid and didn't stop), so you can see if we are theologically correct. Thanks!
To anyone reading this, stay strong in Christ!
(sorry, I'm not very good at commenting.)
Great!
Just wanted to say that you could also add reformored churches in the Serbian city of Subotica I think there is a Baptist church, a Slovakian reformed church and some more churches
In Northern Ireland, there is a solid base of conservative Presbyterian Churches, it is in fact the largest Protestant denomination in the area, if the Church of Scotland was actually conservative it would resemble something like the ones in NI.
There is a dutch reformed church and wynantskill, idk how traditional it is but from the outside it is a tradinitional style building
2 Calvinist countries I DIDN'T know about! (I knew about Hungary.)
Question about Brazil, though. Are they growing on account of the Catholic Church's past 60 years of ongoing collapse there, or are they the descendants of Scottish immigrants? Or something else?
Hi brazilian here
Most presbiterians come from the catolic church or other non-reformed denominations, there its a growing moviment to become more reformed in Brasil and even carismatic and baptist are being influenced, The moviment its more of a individual thing cuz thank to The Internet our doctrine has become more easy to acsses
Though im a particular baptist, i just want to correct the bit about the Presbyterian church in Brazil.
So, actually, unfortunately our Presbyterian denomination is indeed split between liberal and conservative groups and also charismatic-leaning offshoots. Although the IPB (Presbyterian Church of Brazil) is the largest Presbyterian denomination and of conservative doctrine, separations occurred for reasons that range from freemasonry acceptance to female ordination (liberal theology). I can name 5 of them that are the largest:
1. IPB: Conservative and Cessationist.
2. IPIB or commonly IPI (Igreja Presbiteriana Independente do Brasil/Independent Presbyterian Church of Brazil): Separated from the IPB for freemasonry acceptance (later the IPB formalized anti-masonry in its doctrines) and disagreements with american missionaries, at that time, the Presbyterian church was subordinate to the American Church; Initially conservative, grew more and more Liberal, also Continuationist.
3. IPCB (Igreja Presbiteriana Conservadora do Brasil / Conservative Presbyterian Church of Brazil): Separated from IPIB for confessional issues; Conservative and Cessationist.
4. IPFB (Igreja Presbiteriana Fundamentalista do Brasil / Fundamentalist Presbyterian Church of Brazil): Has its roots with Gresham Machen fight for orthodoxy, which soon influenced pastors and seminarians in Brazil. Apparently broke off from the IPB for allegedly liberalism for what i could find. Later IPB and IPFB made peace; Conservative and Cessationist.
5. IPU (Igreja Presbiteriana Unida / United Presbyterian Church): Apparently formed independently from other churches, with influence from IPB theologians; Liberal.
I wil not even begin to talk about the Pentecostal Presbyterians (which honestly i find pretty funny and crazy) with its 30000 morbidillion denominations.
I invite other Presbyterian brothers to feel free to correct me on anything, in light that im not a Presbyterian myself. Much of my source was my actual Pastor, who is a former Presbyterian and the wiki.
Presbyterians and "reformed" Baptists get along here in Brazil. They work together in book publishing, teaching in seminaries, preaching in each other's churches. If nobody says a word about baptizing infants, you just can't tell the difference. Becoming "reformed" is kind of a trend, even among some Pentecostals (thermal shock here), who embrace the TULIP, but in tongues. Most Baptists are Arminians without even knowing. Like you said, it doesn't mean they're not Christians. In general, the church in Brazil is a mess because "christian" songwriters dictate the theology. It's still a very Catholic country, and reading books (Bible included) is one of our main weaknesses.
Regarding what you say at 14:13, the Calvinists in Romania are largely Hungarian speakers. The same is true for the Latin Catholics in the country. Both groups are part of Romania's large Hungarian minority, which is the majority in Transylvania, the northern part of the country.
9:54 iam from there and i am catholic, and Recently i realize that many Big names of our history (Slovak history) was evangelical priests, and yes we have some Lutherans here, still less that catholica orthodox or atheists but still i know Zero Lutheran
how can we update the map? the presby church in bog, colombia is liberal😭 and there is another very beautiful presby church that is not on the map!
Tell me which church it is
4:15 I made a little research and Brazil has more than one Presbyterian Church, although I only know the history of the mainstream one and that another one, the Igreja Presbiteriana Renovada (Renewed Presbyterian Church) is kind of more charismatic, although I know a very beautiful building they have. It is curious that the first Presbyterian missionary here was a student of Charles Hodge (yeah the Presbapterian guy)
Can you make a video about the Neocatechumenal Way. I know it isn't really related to your denomination, but I wanted for it to get some recognition.
Would you be willing to add Hussite/Moravian churches? Especially because of Czechia, which is almost empty on the map
Part of the Dutch Reformed tradition here in Canada and I see that Canada on your map is pretty empty. Please look up URCNA, Canadian reformed, Free reformed, heritage reformed churches, they usually have maps on their websites of all their congregations. These are all conservative, traditional true churches that proclaim the word of God, have proper use of the sacraments and perform church discipline, the marks of a true church. Your channel has been a blessing of wisdom and insight on calvinism and other denominations. God bless and remember, "The grass withers and the flower fade, but the word of God remains the same"
To the Hungarian part as a Hungarian presbyterian: The historical "Reformed Church in Hungary" is not solid and not confessional. They are (as other big churches in Hungary) state-controlled, in the past they laid down to the communist regime, they did not show any resistance against it. Now they are financed by the ruling party, they cant even sustain their own congregations, and most of them are dead. Most of those tagged churches arent even living congregations, every Sunday I see the first church that you showed to us in the video, its almost empty every single time. After the communist regime fell and american mission organizations started their own theological seminary (pca, opc) within this church, to make happen an inward reformation, the general assembly of this church simply closed the seminary and nullified the accrediations of those students who studied there. So by God's grace, they planted new churches and created the first confessional presbyterian church in Hungary in the 90s.
Addition: one of their bishops is a divorced man, for many years he was a member and a government minister in the Fidesz. So there is no doubt that they are a state church.
Dear Zoomer, your map is very very wrong, if you want real "solid and confessional" churches on your map, contact a confessional and solid reformed/presbyterian from Hungary.
From South Africa and we still have some strong Dutch Reformed and Anglican Church communities. Love to all my fellow Christians
Youre the best protestant influencer on UA-cam.
I'm Dutch Reformed and I feel embarrassed that I didnt know this. Brazil is especially interesting.
As a Slovak person, I would also like to add that in the south we have Reformed Church of Slovakia which is basically just the Hungarian influenced part of Slovakia - so they’re continental reformed according to the Hungarian tradition. If you have time it would be worth updating it there are churches like the reformed church in Bratislava at the square of Slovak National Uprising (SNP square) and in Komárno etc.
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Poland is a very interesting country when it comes to Calvinism. Despite currently being the most Catholic country in Europe (if not the world) it used to be one of the main places where Calvinism spread with at its peak 1/4 of the Polish population being Reformed. During the time of reformation Poland was very tolerant country and many protestants from allover Europe migrated there. Plus a lot of Polish nobility converted to Calvinism (They didn't like Lutheranism because they viewed it as a german religion. Even John Calvin himself wrote many letters to Polish churches with the message to believe and stay strong. But then the counter-reformation in Poland began and the Calvinist church massively declined (also partially because Polish enemies at that time were all non-catholic; Sweden and Prussia were protestant, Russia Orthodox, Ottoman Empire Muslim so Polish identity started to be really centered around Catholicism)
Yeah it's incredibly sad that Reformation got crushed in Poland. Maybe if a Protestant state church was established partitions could be avoided.
@@thebasedlutheran probably not. Partitions had nothing to do with religion they were caused by dysfunctional political system of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth and imperial ambitions of Polish neighbors
Poland was too tolerant imho, allowing the wicked Polish Brethren to stay until 1658 was not a good policy.
Can you add Faith Presbyterian Church (PCUSA) from Colorado Springs, CO to the map?
Added! Thank you
How do I contribute to the map?
I can see your South African churches only contain the NG Kerk, which has gone fairly liberal. I would like to add some Gereformeerde Kerk and Vrye Gereformeerde Kerk congregations on there.
I'm gonna say one more country with a (Dutch) reformed protestant heritage. That country is my country Indonesia. Christians are a significant minority among muslims (~10%), it has beautiful churches (most of them are in dutch colonial architecture), and we are conservative (obviously).
The PCA in America is a traditional Reformed Church that Calvin would approve of. The Reformed Presbyterian Church of Taiwan is good too, they gave me a free Chinese Bible.
Yes it’s conservative, however it’s not historically rooted or mainline
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Interesting. One (very small) addendum is that Ulster/Northern Ireland is Calvinist, historically rooted, and conservative. Though the Presbyterians there are descended from the Scots, they have not liberalized as much, and Ulster is the only religiously conservative part of the UK.
(Also, the Free Presbyterian Church of Scotland is very historically rooted and conservative, even if not the state church, and it would be considered mainline if in the US).
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As a Presbyterian in Ireland, I feel that the PCI is under represented on those maps. Certainly in Ulster (the North of Ireland) there is a large conservative reformed presence. Might be interesting to explore the relationship between Irish and North American Presbyterianism.
The Reformed churches in Romania are also of Hungarian origin, as Transylvania was part of the Kingdom of Hungary for nearly 1000 years. Transylvania was in fact the base of the Hungarian Reformed Church. The Romanians are mostly Orthodox, so these churches are mostly attended by the Hungarians still living there (who are slowly becoming a minority...).