Sadly bombs go off at ATMs and bullet casings found on ground at other places. Just saw a ghetto bird in the air looking for suspects. Still not a safe place. Crime doesn't just disappear from an area overnight. Takes a long time and a mentality shift from the immigrants that move here.
When we got married in the early eighties, we lived in the 'Bijlmermeer'. I know there has been quite some controversy about the area. Yet I still consider it as the best place I've lived till now. It's true that things rapidly went downhill later. Today I think it's again a wonderful place to live. So I agree with you.
Yea I heard early 80’s was tough and the Bijlmermeer used to be considered the whole of Zuid-Oost. Nowadays, Bijlmer is much more developed, safer, and comfortable to live in compared to maybe the other areas in Zuid-Oost. But then again it’s the Netherlands - quality of life here in general is good compared to other parts of the world 😁
@@TheTravellingFoxes Yeah! I'm sure your fans would love it. It's not super busy these days because of you-know-what... So it's a perfect time to record a vlog there 👍
Yes, I explore my neighborhood. I find interesting the beautiful ocean with Palm Trees in the front. I also like how it the soft morning breeze feels. Oh... and it is hot and humid. However, today it was a good day. What do you think about a comment that a UA-camr made saying that traveling was overrated because now you have Instagram? He said the world has become so small that we, humans, have seen it all and there is no need to travel. He used Machu Picchu as an example. He said he never been there but he has read so many stories on Instagram and watched so many videos, he felt that he knew how it felt to be there. Thus, no need to go there. What do you think?
6:50 That is exactly what has kept me from moving to Amsterdam. Every time I think of the freedom and much needed civilization, I also think about how effing cold it is it.
Hahahaha yes, it’s been so cold here for awhile and the chilly weather is really annoying. I’d much rather have just the cold rather than cold and windy 😆
ayo i grew up here and still currently living in the area. It's nice and pretty intresting to see how you preview my neigborhood. (appreciate the positivity)
Hey, I think it's safe during the day but it's not really at night. I was wondering if there are any specific areas or places we should avoid due to unsafeness?
Lived in the area for a year and my work (windowwasher) takes me through the whole city for many years now. Seen a lot off buildings i've worked on in your vid Which i deem ;Excellent content . Even as 'Dutchman' (we're famous for overal over zeiken.) i couldn't agree more with the pro's and cons you made . The way you pronounced Zuid-Oost sounded spot on . Happy new year .
Great video! Thanks for making me miss going around Bijlmer. I lived in Bijlmer for one year during my Master's at UvA and I loved it there. Everything is accessible. IKEA, Albert Heijn, and Lidl are not too far away. The only con I would say is that it takes 20-30 minutes to get to the center and going on a night out in Amsterdam Centrum is kind of hassle because you have to bike it back to Bijlmer. Other than that Bijlmer is a good place and if I get the chance to move back to Amsterdam I would live in Bijlmer again. PS I really recommend Oma Ietje. They have great food.
Absolutely spot on!!! It’s convenient yet inconvenient at times :)) I take my bike sometimes or use the bus often. When you live here, you have to use public transport more often
Enjoyed this! I've lived in Bijlmer since November last year. Not had much chance to visit places because of Corona and then work. But looking forward to going out and about more and more around here! I also was told it's a bit of a gang territory area, but honestly... everyone is so god damn nice here. No complaints at all!
Whe don't call it gangs, but groups... and mostly the shooting and fighting incidents in the neitherhood are groups agains other groups but they don't have any problems with random civilian so they would'n attack you. At night some street teenagers can rob you, but that risk you find in every city on earth i guess.
It is indeed true that the Bijlmer had a questionable reputation, known nationwide. However, the city of Amsterdam, certainly after the "Bijlmerramp" of 1992 (El Al cargo plane crash), wanted to revitalize the neighbourhood. It seems to me they succeeded for the most part...!
In ROtterdam it started around the end of the 90s. Areas like Spangen/Oude Westen/Delfshaven began to be transformed slowly. Block after block torn down.
I used to work there (Cisco), loved all the different food you can get there! Media markt was my favorite stop for new gadgets 😁 enjoy the weather Nat, yes it's still a bit chilly but summer is coming 😎
Oh nice! Yea the food here suits my Asian tastes 😋 I could stay for hours in Media Markt hahaha. And yes I kept swearing under my breath how cold it was while vlogging this 😅
Came across this upload and glad that I did. Great video. Don't know what the area is totally like now (which is why this video was a must watch once I saw it on my timeline) but back when I lived in Amstelveen in 2009-2010 this used to be one of my favorite places to go because it reminded me the most of where I grew up (I'm from the U.S ... New York City in particular) with the variety of food selections, diverse group of people you would meet, the businesses that catered to certain things that helped me feel comfortable while there (I used to go there to go to the movies and get my haircuts). The connections I made and parties I was fortunate enough to attend remain some of my fondest memories of living in Holland. Again, great video and continued success wished to this channel and all involved.
Nice vid. I live close to the Bijlmer myself. Is your plan to live in Netherlands permanently or is it just temporary and you want to move back to the Philippines?
You did a lovely job, dear! It´s nice to see people noticing the positive sides of the bijlmer/zuidoost. Sometimes it gets quite exhausted to be only confronted with remarks or questions (from other amsterdam citizens), about safety, where we live. Thumbs up!
De Poort is my favorite shopping center in Amsterdam, visit it once a month, also the open market in Ganzenhoef is great. Amsterdam center is just for tourists to buy lousy t-shirts, souvenirs and it's overcrowded, haven't been there for years....
I’ve watched some of your videos few months ago coz I was planning to go to Amsterdam. It’s funny that the hostel that I booked for my trip next week happen to be here in your neighbourhood. 😂
Yea people would usually advise not to live here because of its reputation :)) but you just need to know certain spots and if it’s close enough to the station, it’s perfect actually!
ZONING REGULATIONS!!!! Don’t forget the zoning regulations that were one of the major reasons for the original projects failure. The whole project was designed around cars and separating work, free time and living. This minimised organic movement, social interaction and safety.
I just wonder if this area is safe at the night time for a girl walking alone towards hotel. I booked the hotel room near bijlmer arena station. but my dutch friend said it is unsafe at night....I am concern becoz I may need to walk back my hotel from metro after finishing my work at night (I.e. 10 pm). thanks
Hi! It is perfectly safe. Which station are you getting out of? Bijlmer area has a bad reputation but I know so many (women) who live here and get by just fine. If you feel unsafe maybe call a friend while walking at night or pretend so you don’t get “targeted”. I do this a lot.
I moved to ZO some months ago, and to be pretty honest... I see people's point but it is not that much of a huge deal XD... maybe it is because I come from a large South American city... but this is not bad at all. You have everything you need, often at reduced prices...it seems like a pretty good mix of cultures, the food is amazing (I really feel closer to home here! ~Thanks Surinam, never been there, but I love you! :3 ), sure... there are some parts I would not walk alone at night... but hey, I've found this even in places like Vienna... it's just common sense...!
Thank you for this video! It's great to a see more positive side of Amsterdam Southeast, nevertheless it's through that the people living there turned it into a ghetto. I gues the focus must be on how we can love ourselves and even the ones we disagree with ♥️
Hi there! You can start at Oma Letje where the “art residence” to see the colorful houses. Then go around the H-Buurt or the neighbourhood with some hidden street art. Near Karspeldeerf street :)
Nice to see that Bijlmer is better nowadays. I grew up in an architectural very similar neighborhood in Schiedam near Rotterdam. But less multicultural. Had a few Turkish classmates in kindergarten but that was about it. First and only time I saw a dark skinned person was at swimming lessons when I was 3. Totally flabbergasted because the underside of his feet were white. Highschool was much more multicultural. I guess Bijlmer had a high influx of Surinam refugees after Surinam independence 1975. Lots of people with Indonesian background can be found in the Hague after World war 2 and Indonesian independence. Not sure why I studied with more Turkish classmates than students from Morocco. Their parents were the 1960s gastarbeiders.
I spent a few months in Rotterdam in 2019. I felt like 60% of the people I saw daily were from immigrant families. But I was in Delfshaven, so makes sense.
Yes I believe it was after the Surinam independence...there’s even a festival here that happens every summer called Kwaku. It was to celebrate their independence! Super fun. There are some Turkish stores here too so I’m pretty sure there are Turkish immigrants living here as well.
The Surinamese weren't refugees, they were just afraid that they would lose their Dutch citizenship afer independence if they didn't go there. So a lot came at once, when there was already a huge housing shortage. Many ended up in these soulless Bijlmer high rises, basically based on a failed political utopian idea, build for anonimity, with no social structure present and many of the immigrants not even speaking the same language, and then the recession hit. So that got a bit out of hand. In 1992 an airplane crashed into one of the high rises and that kickstarted the overhaul of the area with some mild gentrification. Investment, the fact that it was multicultural rather than a monocultural immigrant neighbourhood and shortages of homes did the rest.
@@TheTravellingFoxes Your story about the Bijlmer is right. It was meant for the middleclass and there was an inspection comittee that came to your house to talk and look if you kept your house clean and well maintaiined, if not you couldn't go to the Bijlmer. They also have visited my aunt and uncle's house in the early seventies to see how they lived. Al changed in 1973 because of the independence of Surinam and the rest is history, @Lynnot Parris summed it al up in his comment. In the 80/90 ties there were some bad neighbourhoods with junkies all around, it was like a ghetto and you better didn't go there after dark. But since the rebuilding of some parts in the Bijlmer things have changed in a positive way.
It's not a real Ghetto anymore, in the 90s and 2000s it was soo much worse then now. They fix the neitherhood big time and build new facility's, and a lot people from the old days are in prison now or they are death.
From where I come from, there's a saying: "Më mirë syri se sa nami". Better lose an eye than have a bad reputation. Bijlmermeer was a bad idea from the beginning but a lot of great work has been done to make it a nice place to live. They've been successful, up to a point. But its reputation precedes it
In America, a neighborhood like that would not be considered a ghetto. It would be considered a poor working class mixed neighborhood. Not quite ghetto, but in the danger zone of becoming one if neglected.
This video is fake! this is filmed around the station where the soccer stadium resides that is surrounded by corporations it is a entertainment and business district by day. If you want to see the area where the locals live you need to move towards the huge "Bronx" appartement blocks. She is in Wall Street financial district claiming it is the Bronx.
You’ve got a point! It is also a matter of perspective, I guess the point of my video is to see how the neighbourhood evolved and is now seeing a lot of developments. There’s still a lot of bad reputation about Bijlmer area, and some people refuse to go or live here. But in truth there are also good and safer areas around.
@@TheTravellingFoxes yes most people there have voted left because they got fooled thinking it is against racism so now the housing is getting replaced by houses with solar panels, green roofs and tesla charge spots. The original people have the option to buy / rent first but you do not need to be a rocket scientist to know they can not afford that housing so soon the area will be gentrified and the poor people will get dispelled to the north / east or Belgium. Like parts of the Hauge and Rotterdam these areas will be completely different in 10-20 years. We used to have class housing, in the past the whole region was setup to house ex colonials, later all kind of (low income) immigrants where added to the region with the outside region providing housing for richer people. We had these areas in several big cities in the 90ties we payed people 5000 guldens to relocated to Groningen, Almere, Tilburg in order to try and undo this. The last decades it seems the focus has shifted to making expat and international student living areas because it generates in a lot of money with all kinds of hipster businesses and 5 euro starbucks coffee (not that they pay any tax) and expensive parking. The other area in Amsterdam where they used to relocate people from Morocco and Turkey is already half way split if there are a lot of documentaries about it they just get pushed out of the city and policy changes of elementary schools where they are not involved but the white people who move in the gentrified areas do. In my opinion its a huge leftist operation where they scam people of color for votes with the pretext of blaming other parties for racism and using those votes to save the world buy making very expensive housing so it is guaranteed no poor people are able to live in any of the new housing mainly by throwing stagering amounts of environmental taxes and policies which translate into paying a lot of extra money for stuf poor people that live of 50 euro a week food and leisure allowance a week just cant afford and since its a fact that around 80% of poor people in our big cities are of color while 21% of the people here have a color it is a very disgusting racist way to dispose people in order to save the environment so that the rich kids can grab a house and make the world a better place but only for themselves!
3:00 They actually wanted to make houses for rich people, so all the houses were really big. But most rich people were just not that interested. Also, the Dutch rules say that they have to help all poor people, then the Surinams came to The Netherlands and pretty much took over, they had big families and needed to be taken care of, Bijlmer was perfect for them. Then the prices calapsed, and it will take a generation or 2 before they are gone and then the prices will raise again.
Nice video about De Bijlmer. One thing I missed was any reference to the plane crash October 4th 1992. Seems to me an important happening to the neighbourhood you live in.
Do you ever get lonely there? Iv'e heard Dutch are not as open to making new friends and that the atmosphere is depressing lol most Dutch want to move out of there.
It’s true it’s a bit hard to find Dutch friends. Luckily I do have at least 1 Dutch friend that I can call anytime. I have mostly expat friends so it doesn’t really feel lonely. It’s just The weather can be depressing and unpredictable whatever the season. :)
@@TheTravellingFoxes Yes most expats have expat friends. Might be moving there sometime soon. Coming from California I'm not entirely sure I'm going to like it lol aside from UA-cam what is it that you do there if you don't mind me asking.
@@rayjones1113 because they have no time for tourist people, they have their jobs and there little free time afther job. Mostly their Boss's are arrogant pricks, and our country is overpopulatated. So dont blame the dutch people that living their stressfull fast life. For a tourist it's a nice place, but a stressfull place if you living here.
Ik ben geboren en getogen in de Bijlmer en trots erop! Mocht ik ooit weer in amsterdam gaan wonen ( wat een kleine kans is maar je weet nooit ) dan grote kans in de Bijlmer.. lekker gemixed, lekker eten, gezellig, en niet zoveel mensen uit het GOOI zoals in het centrum, die alles willen veranderen in een stil dorpje. hahaha but I will switch to english to add an important part. In 1975 Suriname became independent, but before this happened, a lot of people had Dutch passports, same with the ABC islands, ( all ex colonial of course!) So after an influx of people from Indonisia, there was also a lot of people from Suriname and Curacao, Aruba, Bonaire that came to live in the Netherlands ( and rightfully so! ) to avoid losing that passport! So when these apartments stayed empty, (I was a lil baby..) indeed a lot of "immigrants" also with Dutch citizenship moved in, but not used to the Dutch system, and the Dutch Government wasn't handling the integration well AT ALL, so this is how it became a bit of a shitshow and an easy target for the Drug dealers under Bouterse smuggling drugs into Europe.. I saw MANY MANY crazy things as a kid, that a kid really shouldn't see and learned a lot about how to hide and keep quiet....! It is a rough side, but I also believe that in every big city that exists, and I think the Bijlmer has lost that reputation. A big turnaround came after the Plane Crash.. it really bonded people more together in a time of big big tragedy. I will never forget it.
My first video of yours, I thought/hoped it might be so. Now I'll watch your newer stuff. Since this thread is 2yrs, a commentt is free! Sure, Amsterdam's the best European city by far *to visit.* But Utrecht etc left me cold, really dreary out of the centre. Honestly, I prefer definitely *not "rich",* more busy areas in Australia, as a rule. Or big space, as in closer (120-300km inland) country towns, like Lithgow or Bathurst [NSW]. Biljmer is interesting because, let's face it, Amsterdam metro is small, Holland is bloody small, so Bijlmer is really just a small, manageably sized, island inside a very orderly state. No-one is 'conceal carrying' at Aldi, ffs! =) Aust has snakes, spiders & sharks that can kill you all over the place & we don't care, we just adapt. I'm glad you understand that, Nat! 10 of my happiest years were spent living & working in Fils, living around & being friends with locals, not other expats. Now, I'm usually at home on a small, 'exclusive' island, Gold Coast Qld. Luckily, it's just 300m over the river to Surfers Paradise. And only 10hrs flight 'home' to Fils. Thanks if you read all this!
@@TheTravellingFoxes Well, that is easy. The Dutch word for "medium" is...... medium! Middel (middelgroot) is also used but that is old fashioned Dutch.
I would not be so confident your bike will not be stolen in the Bijlmer. It's the most common crime in NL and in fact, if someone hates you and sees your bike, they won't steal it, they will toss it in the canal and laugh, and you'll be angry . I want u happy . 🙃 Because the nicest people when angry can be the most frightening. 🥶
Still a lot shooting incidents and people that killing by shooting incidents from time to time, but the neitherhood is much better then it was back then in the 90s and 2000s, back then it was much worse. But mostly the fights was agains other criminal groups.
I was born and raised in the bijlmer in the 1980’s there is nothing cool or trendy about this place even with all the colourful paint on the buildings now . It’s a ghetto and will always remain a ghetto. Pretty girl though in this video
I might consider moving here, I’m a graffiti artist soo the art caught my attention immediately! Such a peaceful beautiful place. Wish I had friends out there or spoke the language cuz it be uncomfortable to live without being able to communicate with the natives
@@TheTravellingFoxes I wouldn’t move anywhere unless I have a good friend from that area. Best way to get to know the culture, communicate with locals, and learn the history.
Nice video but this video is not true. The only reason some people love Bijlmer is because of Amsterdam poort. Other than that is just grimey people getting robbed kids walking with knives and getting stabbed. And people also getting shot at the reason why poort is nice and save is becuse they have allot of police stations and camera’s there so is very difficult for criminals to catch somebody there you will get arrested so fast. Amsterdam arena is nice but postcode 1102 1103 1104 and 6 is a No go zone for certain people bit for therest this is a jice vid and a good review for people to come to Poort.
Want to see part 2 of this video where I toured my neighborhood a bit more? Check it out: ua-cam.com/video/2uVn9cnjTgo/v-deo.html
Sadly bombs go off at ATMs and bullet casings found on ground at other places. Just saw a ghetto bird in the air looking for suspects. Still not a safe place. Crime doesn't just disappear from an area overnight. Takes a long time and a mentality shift from the immigrants that move here.
Had a friend that squatted in empty flat in Biljmer back in the mid-1980s. It's so great to see Biljmer in better times now. Thanks for the video.
can you contact me maybe somehowe and told me the location of that squat?
ex squat i guess.
When we got married in the early eighties, we lived in the 'Bijlmermeer'. I know there has been quite some controversy about the area. Yet I still consider it as the best place I've lived till now. It's true that things rapidly went downhill later. Today I think it's again a wonderful place to live. So I agree with you.
Yea I heard early 80’s was tough and the Bijlmermeer used to be considered the whole of Zuid-Oost. Nowadays, Bijlmer is much more developed, safer, and comfortable to live in compared to maybe the other areas in Zuid-Oost. But then again it’s the Netherlands - quality of life here in general is good compared to other parts of the world 😁
Just go go to show, when you invest and respect an area, what can happen.
Very nice that you are showing other parts of the city. It is interesting to see what Amsterdam has to offer besides the touristic places. Great job!
I agree 100%🤗🤗
Have you also explored your own neighborhood at all? Was there something you found interesting too?
Yehh 👍 ❤️ very nice nature of my neighbourhood
My neighbourhood has the Zaanse Schans, 25 minutes from Bijlmer station, have you been there Nat?
@@nfboogaard oh yes of course!!! I’ve been there at least twice already this month. Thinking of making a vlog there too since I love it. Should I? :D
@@TheTravellingFoxes Yeah! I'm sure your fans would love it. It's not super busy these days because of you-know-what... So it's a perfect time to record a vlog there 👍
Yes, I explore my neighborhood. I find interesting the beautiful ocean with Palm Trees in the front. I also like how it the soft morning breeze feels. Oh... and it is hot and humid. However, today it was a good day. What do you think about a comment that a UA-camr made saying that traveling was overrated because now you have Instagram? He said the world has become so small that we, humans, have seen it all and there is no need to travel. He used Machu Picchu as an example. He said he never been there but he has read so many stories on Instagram and watched so many videos, he felt that he knew how it felt to be there. Thus, no need to go there. What do you think?
"Coffee and Food" is the most hilariously generic name I've seen for a cafe and I love it.
"Hello, can I get uh..... Coffee, and uh one food alstublieft? Met dank!!"
It’s called 30ML though
6:50 That is exactly what has kept me from moving to Amsterdam. Every time I think of the freedom and much needed civilization, I also think about how effing cold it is it.
Hahahaha yes, it’s been so cold here for awhile and the chilly weather is really annoying. I’d much rather have just the cold rather than cold and windy 😆
you will get used to it 😀
Nigga Netherlands ain’t cold
ayo i grew up here and still currently living in the area.
It's nice and pretty intresting to see how you preview my neigborhood. (appreciate the positivity)
Glad you enjoyed it! Maybe see you around? Haha!
Great video about the place where I lived for so long now. Nice to see that you love this place
Hey, I think it's safe during the day but it's not really at night. I was wondering if there are any specific areas or places we should avoid due to unsafeness?
Lived in the area for a year and my work (windowwasher) takes me through the whole city for many years now. Seen a lot off buildings i've worked on in your vid Which i deem ;Excellent content . Even as 'Dutchman' (we're famous for overal over zeiken.) i couldn't agree more with the pro's and cons you made . The way you pronounced Zuid-Oost sounded spot on .
Happy new year .
Hi dear Natascha leuk dat je zo positief bent over de Bijlmer ik woon er niet maar kom er wel vaak voor shoping gr Leo
Great video! Thanks for making me miss going around Bijlmer. I lived in Bijlmer for one year during my Master's at UvA and I loved it there. Everything is accessible. IKEA, Albert Heijn, and Lidl are not too far away. The only con I would say is that it takes 20-30 minutes to get to the center and going on a night out in Amsterdam Centrum is kind of hassle because you have to bike it back to Bijlmer. Other than that Bijlmer is a good place and if I get the chance to move back to Amsterdam I would live in Bijlmer again.
PS I really recommend Oma Ietje. They have great food.
Absolutely spot on!!! It’s convenient yet inconvenient at times :)) I take my bike sometimes or use the bus often. When you live here, you have to use public transport more often
Enjoyed this! I've lived in Bijlmer since November last year. Not had much chance to visit places because of Corona and then work. But looking forward to going out and about more and more around here!
I also was told it's a bit of a gang territory area, but honestly... everyone is so god damn nice here. No complaints at all!
Whe don't call it gangs, but groups... and mostly the shooting and fighting incidents in the neitherhood are groups agains other groups but they don't have any problems with random civilian so they would'n attack you. At night some street teenagers can rob you, but that risk you find in every city on earth i guess.
It is indeed true that the Bijlmer had a questionable reputation, known nationwide. However, the city of Amsterdam, certainly after the "Bijlmerramp" of 1992 (El Al cargo plane crash), wanted to revitalize the neighbourhood. It seems to me they succeeded for the most part...!
The Bijlmer sure have revamped their image, many new builts, gentrification look similarly to some parts of London.
In ROtterdam it started around the end of the 90s. Areas like Spangen/Oude Westen/Delfshaven began to be transformed slowly. Block after block torn down.
I'm a biljmer boi for 3 years now. Love it and I hope people keep away, or the prices will skyrocket as in the center.
True 😮💨
This video bring back memories! Was here in 2019, missing this lovely place.
I live in Bijlmer already 14years. And i still loved ❤
The sky is so blue and clean it looks like painted by gradient and paint bucket tool
I just watched a video that showed Bijlmer as a ghetto and in a negative light. Good to see a different perspective. Great video.
Thanks for the feedback!
I used to work there (Cisco), loved all the different food you can get there! Media markt was my favorite stop for new gadgets 😁 enjoy the weather Nat, yes it's still a bit chilly but summer is coming 😎
Oh nice! Yea the food here suits my Asian tastes 😋 I could stay for hours in Media Markt hahaha. And yes I kept swearing under my breath how cold it was while vlogging this 😅
In memory of the El Al 1862 crash that happened in 1992 in the suburbs of the Dutch capital. 😢✈️
Came across this upload and glad that I did. Great video. Don't know what the area is totally like now (which is why this video was a must watch once I saw it on my timeline) but back when I lived in Amstelveen in 2009-2010 this used to be one of my favorite places to go because it reminded me the most of where I grew up (I'm from the U.S ... New York City in particular) with the variety of food selections, diverse group of people you would meet, the businesses that catered to certain things that helped me feel comfortable while there (I used to go there to go to the movies and get my haircuts). The connections I made and parties I was fortunate enough to attend remain some of my fondest memories of living in Holland. Again, great video and continued success wished to this channel and all involved.
Appreciate your comment! Thanks for dropping by!
Nice vid. I live close to the Bijlmer myself.
Is your plan to live in Netherlands permanently or is it just temporary and you want to move back to the Philippines?
Hi! Good question. Will see where the wind takes me :) Right now, I don’t intend yet to move back to the PH!
You did a lovely job, dear! It´s nice to see people noticing the positive sides of the bijlmer/zuidoost. Sometimes it gets quite exhausted to be only confronted with remarks or questions (from other amsterdam citizens), about safety, where we live. Thumbs up!
Agreed and thank you so much for the like! Appreciate it 🤗
i lived here but you just showed me new things
Glad to know that!
De Poort is my favorite shopping center in Amsterdam, visit it once a month, also the open market in Ganzenhoef is great. Amsterdam center is just for tourists to buy lousy t-shirts, souvenirs and it's overcrowded, haven't been there for years....
Love to hear you speek dutch :)
Watching this makes me really miss the 'old bijlmer'!😢
Aww, I’m sure Bijlmer had a different vibe that time! Probably less crowded too :)
I’ve watched some of your videos few months ago coz I was planning to go to Amsterdam. It’s funny that the hostel that I booked for my trip next week happen to be here in your neighbourhood. 😂
I almost moved to Bijlmer (even though people told me not to). Nice to see it on YT!
Yea people would usually advise not to live here because of its reputation :)) but you just need to know certain spots and if it’s close enough to the station, it’s perfect actually!
@@TheTravellingFoxes could you please let me know which spots we should avoid? thanks!
ZONING REGULATIONS!!!! Don’t forget the zoning regulations that were one of the major reasons for the original projects failure. The whole project was designed around cars and separating work, free time and living. This minimised organic movement, social interaction and safety.
It was! I grew up in the Bijlmer during the 80,s and 90,s it was a whole different place!
I just wonder if this area is safe at the night time for a girl walking alone towards hotel. I booked the hotel room near bijlmer arena station. but my dutch friend said it is unsafe at night....I am concern becoz I may need to walk back my hotel from metro after finishing my work at night (I.e. 10 pm). thanks
Hi! It is perfectly safe. Which station are you getting out of? Bijlmer area has a bad reputation but I know so many (women) who live here and get by just fine. If you feel unsafe maybe call a friend while walking at night or pretend so you don’t get “targeted”. I do this a lot.
@@TheTravellingFoxes Hi! I will stay at Holiday Inn express Arena tower. So will be getting out from Bijlmer Arena Station.
thanks so much
Looks like Barcerona. Drinking in art, living in art. Wonderful place isn't it! :)
Except Barcelona (or Spain in general) has better wine and food! 😜 hehe thank you for watching!
I moved to ZO some months ago, and to be pretty honest... I see people's point but it is not that much of a huge deal XD... maybe it is because I come from a large South American city... but this is not bad at all. You have everything you need, often at reduced prices...it seems like a pretty good mix of cultures, the food is amazing (I really feel closer to home here! ~Thanks Surinam, never been there, but I love you! :3 ), sure... there are some parts I would not walk alone at night... but hey, I've found this even in places like Vienna... it's just common sense...!
Thank you for this video! It's great to a see more positive side of Amsterdam Southeast, nevertheless it's through that the people living there turned it into a ghetto.
I gues the focus must be on how we can love ourselves and even the ones we disagree with ♥️
Glad you enjoyed it and couldn;t agree more!
Does anyone know what the street is called with all the cool street art?
Hi there! You can start at Oma Letje where the “art residence” to see the colorful houses. Then go around the H-Buurt or the neighbourhood with some hidden street art. Near Karspeldeerf street :)
@@TheTravellingFoxes thank you. Do you still live in Amsterdam? I'm in Bijlmer now, exploring
@@TheTravellingFoxes I just hit up all those areas. Thanks for the recommendations
Nice to see that Bijlmer is better nowadays.
I grew up in an architectural very similar neighborhood in Schiedam near Rotterdam. But less multicultural. Had a few Turkish classmates in kindergarten but that was about it. First and only time I saw a dark skinned person was at swimming lessons when I was 3. Totally flabbergasted because the underside of his feet were white.
Highschool was much more multicultural.
I guess Bijlmer had a high influx of Surinam refugees after Surinam independence 1975. Lots of people with Indonesian background can be found in the Hague after World war 2 and Indonesian independence. Not sure why I studied with more Turkish classmates than students from Morocco. Their parents were the 1960s gastarbeiders.
I spent a few months in Rotterdam in 2019. I felt like 60% of the people I saw daily were from immigrant families. But I was in Delfshaven, so makes sense.
@@tupisamba211 lovely historical area. nearby multicultural market at the Visserijplein.
Yes I believe it was after the Surinam independence...there’s even a festival here that happens every summer called Kwaku. It was to celebrate their independence! Super fun. There are some Turkish stores here too so I’m pretty sure there are Turkish immigrants living here as well.
The Surinamese weren't refugees, they were just afraid that they would lose their Dutch citizenship afer independence if they didn't go there. So a lot came at once, when there was already a huge housing shortage. Many ended up in these soulless Bijlmer high rises, basically based on a failed political utopian idea, build for anonimity, with no social structure present and many of the immigrants not even speaking the same language, and then the recession hit. So that got a bit out of hand.
In 1992 an airplane crashed into one of the high rises and that kickstarted the overhaul of the area with some mild gentrification. Investment, the fact that it was multicultural rather than a monocultural immigrant neighbourhood and shortages of homes did the rest.
@@TheTravellingFoxes Your story about the Bijlmer is right. It was meant for the middleclass and there was an inspection comittee that came to your house to talk and look if you kept your house clean and well maintaiined, if not you couldn't go to the Bijlmer. They also have visited my aunt and uncle's house in the early seventies to see how they lived. Al changed in 1973 because of the independence of Surinam and the rest is history, @Lynnot Parris summed it al up in his comment. In the 80/90 ties there were some bad neighbourhoods with junkies all around, it was like a ghetto and you better didn't go there after dark. But since the rebuilding of some parts in the Bijlmer things have changed in a positive way.
I think it looks like an awesome place to live. What's your rent?
Lived in the bijlmer from birth until 21 - thank you for this nostalgic video #bimrelobi
Oh nice! Thank you for watching my Bijlmer video review. Please check out the channel for more Netherlands videos as well :) I have a playlist for it!
Most expensive ghetto I ever lived it. Great spotlight Tash
Hahaha true. Thanks for watching!
It's not a real Ghetto anymore, in the 90s and 2000s it was soo much worse then now. They fix the neitherhood big time and build new facility's, and a lot people from the old days are in prison now or they are death.
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Or improved their lives?
From where I come from, there's a saying: "Më mirë syri se sa nami". Better lose an eye than have a bad reputation. Bijlmermeer was a bad idea from the beginning but a lot of great work has been done to make it a nice place to live. They've been successful, up to a point. But its reputation precedes it
First of all, nice video! You said, you lived there for 3 years, how is it possible, that you speak so little nederlands?
In America, a neighborhood like that would not be considered a ghetto. It would be considered a poor working class mixed neighborhood. Not quite ghetto, but in the danger zone of becoming one if neglected.
Ehm.. Ok
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This video is fake! this is filmed around the station where the soccer stadium resides that is surrounded by corporations it is a entertainment and business district by day. If you want to see the area where the locals live you need to move towards the huge "Bronx" appartement blocks. She is in Wall Street financial district claiming it is the Bronx.
You’ve got a point! It is also a matter of perspective, I guess the point of my video is to see how the neighbourhood evolved and is now seeing a lot of developments. There’s still a lot of bad reputation about Bijlmer area, and some people refuse to go or live here. But in truth there are also good and safer areas around.
@@TheTravellingFoxes yes most people there have voted left because they got fooled thinking it is against racism so now the housing is getting replaced by houses with solar panels, green roofs and tesla charge spots. The original people have the option to buy / rent first but you do not need to be a rocket scientist to know they can not afford that housing so soon the area will be gentrified and the poor people will get dispelled to the north / east or Belgium. Like parts of the Hauge and Rotterdam these areas will be completely different in 10-20 years.
We used to have class housing, in the past the whole region was setup to house ex colonials, later all kind of (low income) immigrants where added to the region with the outside region providing housing for richer people. We had these areas in several big cities in the 90ties we payed people 5000 guldens to relocated to Groningen, Almere, Tilburg in order to try and undo this.
The last decades it seems the focus has shifted to making expat and international student living areas because it generates in a lot of money with all kinds of hipster businesses and 5 euro starbucks coffee (not that they pay any tax) and expensive parking.
The other area in Amsterdam where they used to relocate people from Morocco and Turkey is already half way split if there are a lot of documentaries about it they just get pushed out of the city and policy changes of elementary schools where they are not involved but the white people who move in the gentrified areas do.
In my opinion its a huge leftist operation where they scam people of color for votes with the pretext of blaming other parties for racism and using those votes to save the world buy making very expensive housing so it is guaranteed no poor people are able to live in any of the new housing mainly by throwing stagering amounts of environmental taxes and policies which translate into paying a lot of extra money for stuf poor people that live of 50 euro a week food and leisure allowance a week just cant afford and since its a fact that around 80% of poor people in our big cities are of color while 21% of the people here have a color it is a very disgusting racist way to dispose people in order to save the environment so that the rich kids can grab a house and make the world a better place but only for themselves!
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3:00 They actually wanted to make houses for rich people, so all the houses were really big. But most rich people were just not that interested. Also, the Dutch rules say that they have to help all poor people, then the Surinams came to The Netherlands and pretty much took over, they had big families and needed to be taken care of, Bijlmer was perfect for them. Then the prices calapsed, and it will take a generation or 2 before they are gone and then the prices will raise again.
I think slowly the prices are rising now!
The prices there are high because… well still Amsterdam. But no sane white person will live there. It is not a ghetto, it’s a jungle.
Nice to meet you very open-minded neighbour!
Haha hello! Do you still live in Bijlmer? What do you think of the neighbourhood?
@@TheTravellingFoxes Yes I do. It's my home and I lam proud to be part of this community.
Nice video about De Bijlmer. One thing I missed was any reference to the plane crash October 4th 1992. Seems to me an important happening to the neighbourhood you live in.
I agree, I did hear about the unfortunate crash. I indeed forgot to mention it however I hope it showed some light about the neighbourhood today :)
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Do you ever get lonely there? Iv'e heard Dutch are not as open to making new friends and that the atmosphere is depressing lol most Dutch want to move out of there.
It’s true it’s a bit hard to find Dutch friends. Luckily I do have at least 1 Dutch friend that I can call anytime. I have mostly expat friends so it doesn’t really feel lonely. It’s just The weather can be depressing and unpredictable whatever the season. :)
@@TheTravellingFoxes Yes most expats have expat friends. Might be moving there sometime soon. Coming from California I'm not entirely sure I'm going to like it lol aside from UA-cam what is it that you do there if you don't mind me asking.
Dutch people(white)are not the most friendly people ive met .no wonder nobody likes them
@@rayjones1113 because they have no time for tourist people, they have their jobs and there little free time afther job. Mostly their Boss's are arrogant pricks, and our country is overpopulatated. So dont blame the dutch people that living their stressfull fast life. For a tourist it's a nice place, but a stressfull place if you living here.
@@strikmeister who cares as a travelle ive bin to many countrys and i can tell you the netherlands is one of the most boring countrys ever
Ik ben geboren en getogen in de Bijlmer en trots erop! Mocht ik ooit weer in amsterdam gaan wonen ( wat een kleine kans is maar je weet nooit ) dan grote kans in de Bijlmer.. lekker gemixed, lekker eten, gezellig, en niet zoveel mensen uit het GOOI zoals in het centrum, die alles willen veranderen in een stil dorpje. hahaha but I will switch to english to add an important part. In 1975 Suriname became independent, but before this happened, a lot of people had Dutch passports, same with the ABC islands, ( all ex colonial of course!) So after an influx of people from Indonisia, there was also a lot of people from Suriname and Curacao, Aruba, Bonaire that came to live in the Netherlands ( and rightfully so! ) to avoid losing that passport! So when these apartments stayed empty, (I was a lil baby..) indeed a lot of "immigrants" also with Dutch citizenship moved in, but not used to the Dutch system, and the Dutch Government wasn't handling the integration well AT ALL, so this is how it became a bit of a shitshow and an easy target for the Drug dealers under Bouterse smuggling drugs into Europe.. I saw MANY MANY crazy things as a kid, that a kid really shouldn't see and learned a lot about how to hide and keep quiet....! It is a rough side, but I also believe that in every big city that exists, and I think the Bijlmer has lost that reputation. A big turnaround came after the Plane Crash.. it really bonded people more together in a time of big big tragedy. I will never forget it.
It's eerie knowing that it's where the worst plane crash in dutch history happened
I heard! It’s a few km from my house. Very tragic
@@TheTravellingFoxes damn
My first video of yours, I thought/hoped it might be so. Now I'll watch your newer stuff. Since this thread is 2yrs, a commentt is free!
Sure, Amsterdam's the best European city by far *to visit.* But Utrecht etc left me cold, really dreary out of the centre. Honestly, I prefer definitely *not "rich",* more busy areas in Australia, as a rule. Or big space, as in closer (120-300km inland) country towns, like Lithgow or Bathurst [NSW].
Biljmer is interesting because, let's face it, Amsterdam metro is small, Holland is bloody small, so Bijlmer is really just a small, manageably sized, island inside a very orderly state. No-one is 'conceal carrying' at Aldi, ffs! =) Aust has snakes, spiders & sharks that can kill you all over the place & we don't care, we just adapt. I'm glad you understand that, Nat!
10 of my happiest years were spent living & working in Fils, living around & being friends with locals, not other expats. Now, I'm usually at home on a small, 'exclusive' island, Gold Coast Qld. Luckily, it's just 300m over the river to Surfers Paradise. And only 10hrs flight 'home' to Fils.
Thanks if you read all this!
Trust me we have here so many talents
I have lived there ,,, AND NO IT ABSOLUTELY IS NOT A GHETTO,,,, I LOVED IT AND MISS IT EVERY DAY ✌✌✌✌✌✌
ive lived there also is my favorite
Its so funny how you started speaking Dutch and got quiet haha
Hahahaha yes, I understood when we he asked klein (small) but I don’t know the Dutch word for “medium” 😂 need more practice!
@@TheTravellingFoxes At least you tried
@@TheTravellingFoxes Well, that is easy. The Dutch word for "medium" is...... medium! Middel (middelgroot) is also used but that is old fashioned Dutch.
@@TheTravellingFoxes officially it shouldbe “middelgroot” indeed, but mostly Dutch people use medium also.
nice place 😍
I agree 😍
I would not be so confident your bike will not be stolen in the Bijlmer. It's the most common crime in NL and in fact, if someone hates you and sees your bike, they won't steal it, they will toss it in the canal and laugh, and you'll be angry . I want u happy . 🙃
Because the nicest people when angry can be the most frightening. 🥶
Hahaha I sure hope I don't offend anyone too much for my bike to be tossed in the water 😅
might move there just for you
How I wish I could visit Netherlands soon.
I hope so too!
My yard Grew up there
Hey, nice Videos about amsterdam! Can i ask how you earn Money? Im struggling to Move there.
Thank you! I work for a tech company, and do videos/marketing :)
its strange, your accent is almost a bit dutch, but then you don't speak the language haha. how long have you been living here?
Haha, my accent adapts pretty quickly :)) i tried to learn Dutch a couple of times...it's a difficult language :) I've been for 3yrs!
@@TheTravellingFoxes in your recent Madeira video you speak English with an even more Dutch accent ;)
Well they are still treated as such, so you tell me?
ik ben ook Blij in de Bijlmer
Still a lot shooting incidents and people that killing by shooting incidents from time to time, but the neitherhood is much better then it was back then in the 90s and 2000s, back then it was much worse. But mostly the fights was agains other criminal groups.
Don't look like a Ghetto. Place is noiiice!
Yes right?! It’s becoming really hip and upcoming. I think it just used to be tagged as a ghetto, but now it’s getting better.
Just go to kraaiennest at night time
@@AFCA-gh9qp Just checked on maps, I think I'll pass.
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Now do it after 23:00 alone
It is only one kind of people in this hood (no diversity). You and me live close by. I can not wait to moved out of here !
The truth was there was no metro and train that's why in the begin people don't will life there.
she didn't show how littered the Bijlmer can be tho.
Hehe true, especially during football games 😂
No offense but if you lived in the Bijlmer for just 3 yrs you can't tell me you know the true history, but kudos for the nice vid.
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Yeah, we dont have ghettos overhere. Only some less fortunate areas.
Certainly, it's not bad compared to many cities in the US, for example!
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I want fast food!! haha
Hahaha I haven’t let you try? Honestly I probably only did it once - it’s cool but super unhealthy 🤣🤣 the cheese croquettes were good though!
Ja de Bijlmer is gw ghetto
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Justice? 😆
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I talked nice Portuguese 😆
Brazil.
I was born and raised in the bijlmer in the 1980’s there is nothing cool or trendy about this place even with all the colourful paint on the buildings now . It’s a ghetto and will always remain a ghetto. Pretty girl though in this video
Don't even look that bad
You are a really pretty Filipina were in the pi are you from just curious
You should bring your boyfriend with you
Wassss a ghetto
True!
What is that crust in the corner of your mouth 🤢🤢🤢
I don't know what you're talking about.
I might consider moving here, I’m a graffiti artist soo the art caught my attention immediately! Such a peaceful beautiful place. Wish I had friends out there or spoke the language cuz it be uncomfortable to live without being able to communicate with the natives
Heya! It is better to learn the local language. Easier if you want to make friends :)
@@TheTravellingFoxes I wouldn’t move anywhere unless I have a good friend from that area. Best way to get to know the culture, communicate with locals, and learn the history.
Nice video but this video is not true. The only reason some people love Bijlmer is because of Amsterdam poort. Other than that is just grimey people getting robbed kids walking with knives and getting stabbed. And people also getting shot at the reason why poort is nice and save is becuse they have allot of police stations and camera’s there so is very difficult for criminals to catch somebody there you will get arrested so fast. Amsterdam arena is nice but postcode 1102 1103 1104 and 6 is a No go zone for certain people bit for therest this is a jice vid and a good review for people to come to Poort.
Hi dear Natascha leuk dat je zo positief bent over de Bijlmer ik woon er niet maar kom er vaak shoppen gr Leo