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Toprope Solo - How I started with Ropesolo Climbing
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- Опубліковано 31 бер 2018
- My new and simple setup: • Solo Toprope Climbing ...
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Seems overkill to me, 1 backup on another carabiner is plenty enough in this case.
I guess that's the point.
If you want 0.000001% chance of an accident, and genuinely hate & or just don't trust people, then this is the way to go.
If that's the case, then this must be amazing fun! :)
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I really like the fifi hooked bag to make going up feed smoothly without the disadvantage of making going down harder.
I can't believe you didn't have multiple belay devices and tie 12 stopper knots.
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Here is a backup to the backup of my backup. With the Prusiks you basically have 5 different points that can catch you. seems like an overkill to me.
I was not able to find any information to the Rollnlock used for that. And since the ropes should be redundant, a backup to each primary device was needed, in my opinion.
But now I work differently. I started to use a more simple setup.
I have a Ropeman 1, CT Rollnlock, Rescue 8, Sterling Lightning Hook etc in an emergency rescue kit along with some pulleys and gear.
Together they can be used as a progress capture for light duty pulley set up.
Multi-use gear
I was really interested in this technique until I tested it. One of the Rollnrock jammed due to rubbing against the other one and stuck open (not good). Also, I'm not sure how you switch to a rapple device if you lose footing and have to switch in midair since you have both ropes under load !!!
Interesting technique. Not sure about the two ducks on the one karabiner, but otherwise fairly slick. The tether looks really complicated, but if that’s what you are comfortable with, go nuts! Nice work with the fifi
Thx. Yeah, I am still looking for a bigger Carabiner for perfect placement of the rollnlocks.
To easy to jam your fingers on the rappel. The back ups you have in place beneath the rappel device need to be removed and if you want a back up it needs to be above the rappel device. If you slip and you bang your hands on the wall your fingers can get caught up in the gear below the device and get caught up with your full body weight on your fingers. I've seen it happen and it's not nice.
EnduroDan Thank You. I startet using both ropes for rappel. And since I don’t use the prusiks anymore I make a new one also underneath the rappel device.
I could also remove the rollnlocks for rappel. They are only there to safe time. Not as a backup.
i can't figure out what the purpose of the ropeman is in the system.. anyone figure that out? I watched multiple times and can't figure out why he has the rope man if he also has the two roll locks and prusiks
From the vocal description I think it is for a backup using another manufacturer/device type, just in case prussik and roll-and-lock have fail.
Anyway, I think the prussic knots can fail easily because they can get undressed by pushing up with the locking device and somewhat loose prussiks do not catch well. (If there were shock loads, prussics could tend to slip as well. No shock loads in this case as long as ropes feed through well and no slack loop is made). I personally don't like prussik knots for any backup application because of that. YMMV.
I would find the concept something I could climb with but I prefer using different product/technology on the backup rope. Two different systems remove systematic operator errors and any odd cases where one system would not work well. (And probably I'd not bother with prussiks because I tend to find them very unlikely to work anyway when not constanly tended/redressed).
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Great system! I like the workflow where the prussiks become tour rappel backups
the ct's are putting a weird strain on the biner the load should be on the spine only but your weight is probably no where near enough to cause a failure but I use gri gri + only and manually pull slack but I do not climb very hard routes by myself way to much risk
It's dangerous what you do finally, because when you rappelling, you have to hold rope (right hand) above prusik knot, do not hold the knot
Thank you for your comment. Why should it be dangerous to hold/slide the knot? 🤔
In danger, the hand may reflexively clamp on the prussik knot and then it will not works. The hand should be directly above the knot and slide it down. Greetings
When the hand clamps the Prusik, it also clamps the rope.
But that’s only my understanding of it. But still thank you for pointing it out. Surely still important to keep in mind.
Look at the vt prusik..they work great
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Ho provato il sistema, funziona, devo perfezionare,
A mio parere è ottimo.
How you get the rope to the top?
That’s why alex prefer free solo
Wow, gr8 solo rock climbing. Basically U setup a top anchor, then go 2 the bottom & start climbing. Thx 4 sharing on the internet. Keep on solo climbing.
Hi. Cooles System. Du könntest auch statt dem Mammut bionic den Karabiner Boa von DMM verwenden.
Danke. Inzwischen nutze ich zwei Ropeman 2 mit einem Stahlkarabiner
I'm confused why a shunt wouldn't work here as long as it's your primary device and is above the 2 rollnlock (like on a chest rig)
Than it would work. But not underneath as a backup.
@@ripperkon okay that clears it up thanks
Hi! Danke für deine guten Videos! Mich würde dein Toprope Anchor Setup interessieren.. Wenn ich es richtig erkenne gehst du oben mit 3 Reepschnüren / Statikseilen von je einem selbst gelegten/gebauten Fixpunkt über die Kante und dort 2 gegenläufige Karabiner. Welchen Knoten verwendet du im Seil? Das kann man leider schlecht erkennen, aber ich vermute einen Doppelten Palstek/Bulin? Danke!
madbutt83 Ich nutze mal ne Reepschnur und manchmal die Standplatzschlinge von Edelrid. Ich mache dazu gerne demnächst mal ein Video ;)
Der Knoten ist der doppelte Bulin. Einfach weil ich ihn leicht wieder öffnen kann und mir gefällt es besser, dass das Seil doppelt im karabiner liegt. Denke das ist von der Belastung auch schonender fürs sein. Und ja, zwei gegenläufige karabiner. Dann ist der Radius größer und ich bin auch sicher, wenn sich mal ein karabiner öffnet oder ich vergesse einen zu schließen.
Danke für deinen Kommentar :)
Danke für deine schnelle und ausführliche Antwort!
I use two ropes , one with grigri and other with a jumar following me up
Great video however I would have utilised the two ropes and done dual rope atc rappelled down
That's might be unsafe only using a hook to the bag. Why not a use a locking carabiner?
Very nice! I also watched the video "Gesichertes Soloklettern - Toprope". My concern is: how good does this system work if the routes doesn't go straight up? And if it is slabby (wall with less than 90 degrees)? Also, it would be nice if this works with just a little weight, lets say your approach shoes. Then also abseiling would be more easy, would it? And if i hang my much more heavy backpack to the rope, does this force me to climb straight up? And then rappel down... what if i can't unhook my backpack? What if the backpack (or weight) comes undone by itself during the climb?
Did you ever think of something else than a "Seilklemme"? Like a "mitlaufendes Auffanggerät", which works without teeth or something like that to grab the rope, but works internally like a GriGri?
Like the Kong Back-Up. It works officially until down to 10mm ropes, all the other devices just down to 10,5 or 11mm ropes. There are devices like the CT easy move, Beal Monitor, the mentioned Kong back-Up, etc.
Most of them, doesn't lock if weighted from the top, so not useable as a secondary device in my opignion, because the primary will fal onto the secondary und the devices is weighted from the top instead through he carabine connecting the device to you.
Ho long are the prusiks? I believe my short prusik to rappel with a ATC guide tube is shorter than this. The prusiks should be longer than the length of the primary devices, right? Otherwiese the prusiks would lock instead of the CT RollNlocks?
Does the prusiks also work (smoothly sliding up the ropes) if the rope isn't heavily weighted?
To slide better, shoudl i use thicker cord as prusiks? So, i have 5mm here, should I go for 6mm + not the default ones, instead for the more lasting and stronger dyneema ones?
Right now I have 1x Ropeman 2, 1x CT RollNlock, 5mm cord for prusiks, 1x Black Diamond Fifi hook, different carabiners (where do you get that stoppper rubber to prevent the RollNlocks from sliding down the carabiner?), 1x ATC Guide abseil device, 1x GriGri 2 with Freino carabiner, the default climbing equipment and 1x 70m 9.5mm Mammut Infinity classic single rope.
At the crag we have "Sauschwanz" (pigs tail?) as Tops. Just tying a figure of 8 in the middle of the rope, put the loop into the Sauschwanz and back it up with another carabiner or quickdraw is enough?
Thank you.
On overhanging routes it pulls you a bit away from the wall. There it can be handy to clip a quickdraw to bring the rope closer to the rock. When the route is more horizontal, the weight on the rope sometimes doesn't pull the rope enought. So you will have to pull the rope by hand.
It's doesn't need much weight to work. A heavy bag pack would push you to go staight up. So I only use this light and almost empty one. But not sure if approach shoes alone will work.
When the backpack gets undone while climbing, it is still attached to the rope. So there is a bit more play in the system. And a fall would be a bit deeper. But if there is already enought rope underneath you, the weigh of the rope can be enought to pull it through the devices.
The "mitlaufendes Auffanggerät" needs a fall. I personally like the fact, that I can just sit back so take a rest. But yeah, I allready thought about giving the Kong Backup a try. But then it's only one device and it's heavy, because you need to use a steel carabiner for it. And yeah, you are totally right with the fact that some devices will fails as a backup, if weightened from the top.
Sadly I can not tell you the correct lenght. It requires a bit of testing. Because they should not be to long. Because then they can open up to much and will not lock. Or if to short they will lock when climbing. For now I mainly use this system without the prusiks. Since three devices on two ropes is still quite safe.
The Prusiks add some friction. But the rope does not have to be heavily weightet ;-) I use 6mm Poliamid cord (With ropes from 7,9mm). Dyneema catches to fast and can get stuck to the ascenders. And aramid is to stiff, and might grap the rope to late.
For anchor I allways prefer to build one out of two fix points and clip the rope in with two carabiners. So even then I am totally fucked up and forget to close one or both, I am safe. But that's just how I do it.
I have allready seen people doing stuff like you said with the pigs tail. I think that's also fine. But maybe consider to let the pigs tail free. So if someone arrives he can still abseil without bringing you into danger.
I hope I anserwed all your questions. If not, just let me know ;)
Question for you. What if you can't ascend any higher because you are tired or just can't make it up the wall? Can you descend on this setup?
I never did any climbing, only tried via ferrata, I am watching videos to learn, but I am guessing that because the system i doubled, you can put an overhander underneath, load both prusiks, remove one device and put rapelling device on, load it by unloading one prusik, if rapelling device is holding securely, remove overhander, unlock other device, unload prusiks and rapell down.
This video was very helpful, thank you very much, I will be using similar gear for my top Rope Solo climbing. But I was wondering about the location of this place, I would like to visit this site with my mother in law as a part of reintroducing her to climbing and it would be a nice trip since we live near Germany. Thank you for the response.
a sixth or seventh redundancy could still make it a tiny little bit safer...
On this specific setup I wanted to be extra sure, since I was not able to find any experience with the RollNLock. And I am still alive, so it wasn't such a big mistake, I guess.
I changed to another setup. You can find a Video on my channel.
meanwhile i've seen your follow up video with the double ropeman on a steel carabiner. thanks and respect for sharing your experiences
What only 5 ways to stop a fall ?! What kind of reckless climbing is this video promoting!
GREAT AND SAFE - SUPER
Mike M.
What knot are you using to tie in your personal anchor/rappel set up to your harness?
Mike Magnuson looks like a double bowline
I use a sling with an overhand knot for an extended rappel half way and the end for my anchor, the system is connected to my harness with a girth hitch (not to a belay loop)
What is the third devive for? And can I use a static rope?
How did you attach the rope up? What kind of nut. Thanks
Why can't I find any videos or information on how to set up a self solo climb? Like how do I set a rope up at the top of a mountain or rock face and then put it through my gear. Or how do I do a climb by myself with gear at a place that hasn't been climbed before. I cant find anything about this. Hope I'm being specific enough
I hate to be that guy but...
Please find sometime to teach you, in person. Having a climbing mentor is the safest way to learn and stay alive! Top Rope Solo is an advanced climbing skill that requires knowledge of anchor building, proper equipment selection, climbing safety and much more. Climbing and especially TRS is about minimizing and accounting for risk. From the questions you've asked it's apparent these aren't skills you've yet acquired. You can learn much online but every rock/cliff/crag is different and you need a vast array of skills to adapt to the differing conditions presented when climbing.
I agree with Mike. Take a couple of courses to learn this stuff, then you learn the background to make use of these videos.
could you do a setup with one Grigri and a Trax (one above the other) for a similar backup system. but obviously with the grigri then you have the lever action in order to absail down if needed.
Sure, that's also possible. But then not with two ropes and I don't think the rope will feed automatically.
I do it this way and it’s kind of a pain in the ass sometimes. The trax runs smooth but since it doesn’t run through the gri gri smooth I have to stop once I get a decent size loop and pull the slack through the gri gri. Not a huge deal but can get old if you’re on a more technical climb and don’t have tons of rest spots to do it. The benefit is if you need to go down “right now”, I unlock the trax, then rappel down off the grigri rather than having to mess around with hooking up an atc and doing it that way.
Also, the ways I do it I’m on a single line, I don’t double up like he did in the video. I either hook one end up to the top anchor and run it that way, or a new way I recently tried was to rig the top anchor like a normal top rope set up and tie yourself in as normal. Figure 8 through the leg and hip loops for the climber, then ALSO hook up a gri gri to your belay loop. Doing it this way is much faster when cleaning the top anchor. Clean your gear, run the rope through the mussy hook (or ring) then rappel down. When you’re at the ground just pull the rope through and you’re free and clear. If you do it the second way and run a gri gri be sure to hook your climber side of the rope on your RIGHT HAND SIDE. Doing it this way will keep the handle free and clear for rappels. If it’s on the other side, then the climber side of the rope will interfere with the grigri handle. I found this out roughly 50 up a face I was climbing. Got down but it was, interesting.
I'm curious, your RollNLocks only have a 4kn limit. have you had one fail in a fall? have you had a significant fall with this setup? What device are you using for backup?
I took a big fall doing something stupid on my Rollnlock. Worked like a champ,but the rope was core shot from the fall.
@@KruzerOak I'm curious the conditions of your fall. Care to share specifics?
@@FlyfishermanMike sure. I was working on a 5.11b with a huge roof sequence. I was using a sub par rope, with the rope capture device below a prusik. To prevent getting pulled out of the roof I had little weight at the end of my rope. When I pulled through the roof my prusik engaged and lifted the weight at the end of our rope. So I ended up with a ton of slack. When I went to correct it I was panicked and my heel popped. I fell, the rollnlock engaged, I was fine.
It was the only time my system has ever messed up. The mistake was in my choice of route and the lessened weight at the end of the fixed line. It was dumb, but I wasn't really in danger.
a very hard fall will produce somewhere to 3.2Kn
Cooles System gefällt mir. Sehr durdacht auch zum abseilen mit achter in der standschlinge in Verbindung mit Ring finde ich genial. Evtl. Als umklenkung einen einen gegengleichen karabiner oder einen dmm ultra o durolock verwenden. 😉
Mario Lehmann Danke. Wie meinst du das mit Umlenkung?
ripperkon bei Minute 3.20 bis 3.24 sieht man das Seil, in einem meine ich petzl william screwlock, eingehängt zu sehen. Und das ist für mich die umlenkung. Dort statt den screwlock zwei Gegengleiche karabiner oder den genannten dmm.
Mario Lehmann Okay, jetzt verstehe ich. Ja, das wäre wohl eine Möglichkeit.
alles perfekt..!
Biggest flaw, caming devices on a dynamic rope not good, should be semi static or full static
This isn't true. Every big wall climber ascends the climbing rope with jumars, which are exactly like these but with handles. Jumaring isn't less jarring on the rope than top rope solo, in fact it's more so
Ist mir dann doch etwas zu redundant. Hast Du schon mal versucht auf Abseilen umzubauen, während das Seil belastet ist? Kann ja schon mal passieren, dass Du es nicht bis zum Umlenker schaffst, dann musst Du aus den belasteten Klemmen heraus auf die 8 umbauen um Abseilen zu können. Da Du die 8 nur unter den Klemmen einbauen kannst, dürfte das schwierig werden, zumindest wenn beide Klemmen auf beiden Seilen belastet sind. Aber vermutlich lässt sich ein Seilstrang irgendwie frei bekommen. Ich würd das Szenario auf jeden Fall mal durchspielen, so eine 8 rutscht einem schnell mal aus den Händen und dann hängst Du allein da rum. Ich persönlich nutze ein einfaches Grigri + 8mm Prusik am Einfachseil. Das lässt sich in nullkommanix auf Abseilen umbauen ohne dass mir das Grigri aus der Hand fallen kann. Besonders praktisch, wenn Du die Schlüsselstelle ausboulderst :-) Ansonsten gut erklärt... Danke fürs Teilen!
Treemander Danke für den Kommentar. Die beiden Prusik Schlingen nutze ich meist nicht mehr.
Umbauen zum abseilen mache ich notfalls mit einer Fußschlinge. So kann ich das System entlasten. Achter nutze ich zum abseilen nicht mehr. Sondern Tube. Dann natürlich mit Stopp-Knoten im Seil. Dann ist da auch nichts mit runterrutschen ;-)
Und dein Grigri mit Prusik läuft von alleine am Seil mit? Und bei einem Sturz lässt sich der Prusik lösen oder musst du ihn durchschneiden?
ripperkon Hi nochmal, Grigri läuft nicht automatisch mit, muss nachgezogen werden alle paar Züge. Damit simuliere ich quasi das clippen beim Vorsteigen. Ist aber nur eine kurze Handbewegung. Der Prusik (8mm Klemmknotenseil....keine 6mm Reepschnur) läuft über dem Grigri und wird beim Seil durchziehen einfach mit hochgeschoben. Sollte das Grigri versagen (ist ehrlich gesagt noch nie passiert, nutze immer ein 11mm Seil, da blockiert das Grigri immer zuverlässig) beißt der Prusik. Will ich dann abseilen, ziehe ich einfach etwas Seil durch das Grigri und damit ist der Prusik entlastet und ich kann den aus dem Karabiner nehmen und mit dem Grigri abseilen.
Treemander okay, kann man auch machen. Ich persönlich möchte jedoch, dass es selbstständig mitläuft :)
Danke für die ausführliche Antwort.
Hallo, darf ich fragen was für coole grüne Schuhe das sind? Sehen ideal aus für outdoor. Danke für das Video! Genial wie immer.
Idk what’s going on, I’m gonna die.
Just coming back to climbing, need to ask is anyone using the Wildcountry Revo solo???...
There are some threads on MP about using it as such. It's certainly not the perfect self belay device but it seems like it will likely find it's place in a soloist's quiver. Also check out the facebook group Rope Solo.
Could you please comment a list of everything used in this Video? Very nice set up
My latest setup ist more simple. So I recommend the new one. I even made a video to it ;)
Bro get a eye to eye prussik. Tie a bowline to a caribiner. Time prussik wit a double rope method and you is good.
Solution to falling on teeth: fall on two teeth backed up. Less force on each, honestly too simply smart
It is a little be overkill to go top rope..
It is dangerous. When you put too much safety measures, you increase complexity, and may forget something and make mistake, especially in stressfull situation. It should be simple.
I was not able to find any experience with the RollNLock. So I wanted to be extra sure and backed it up.
My newer setups are more simple.
1. You have two devices on two ropes. Why a third? 2. You have three devices. Why add two prussiks? 3. You are now about 5 times redundant, yet you put two devices on a single biner. Why? 4. You have two identical devices, when the general recommendation is to always use different type devices. Honestly, why publish a video of this setup at all?
The RollNLock is only rated for 400kg. I was not able to find any experience about using it in toprope solo. I was also not sure how it will work on the thin ropes I use.
That’s why I used the prusiks. My new setup is much simpler.
And honestly, I don’t understand why people still ask questions to this setup. The first words in the description tell, that there is a new setup.
But anyway, thank you for asking.
@@ripperkon I think the questions arise from the overly redundant and complicated setup you have here. The video is titled as a "how to" teaching video instead of a more experimental, testing a new setup, demo type video that I think you were going for. I appreciate the video and came specifically to see how you used the Roll N Lock. While it looks overkill I understand your reasoning for redundancy when testing a new setup or device. There isn't a TRS standard hence the variety of ways to accomplish the same goal. There are so many devices out now that can function as a TRS device but aren't meant, designed or tested to be one. Understanding the limits, risks and failure potentials of your system is a skill many watching this video may not possess. Again I think it goes back to your "how to" title instead of, "hey, watch me test my new TRS setup."
No matter what climbing video you make you'll get "safety" feedback and criticism. At the end of the day your safety is your responsibility so do what you feel comfortable with. Climbing is so about recognizing and mitigating risk.
nice system
Hi. Nice video bro)
Thx, dude.
Kannst du das nochmal filmen mit Camera Fokus of dein setup?
Ich hab noch ein paar andere Videos zu dem Thema. Denn hier das setup ist so gesehen alt und ich nutze es so nicht mehr.
I wish I would’ve watched to the end. Instead I got myself three ascenders and went up. Now I’m stuck up here. Please help! 🤣
Oh, sorry :D
I hope you finally got back to the ground safe ;)
do the rollnlock damage the rope after a fall?
Strett not in this Setup. Since there is only a low impact force.
I really respect redundancy but this is just too much.
It was just for the beginning. Because I couldn’t find any experience about these devices in a setup like this.
My updated setup is more simple. I also have a video about it ;)
How do you take up the rope?
You mean pulling it up for the next pitch or how I coil it?
I have a seperate Video to my Multi Pitch climbing.
Molto meglio usare shunt
Overkill. "Carabainer" is gold..
Get to the choppa!!!
Way too complicated. Learn how to simplify - it'll be safer in the long run. More accurate and up-to-date info can be found on the Facebook Top Rope Soloing group.
Thank you. In the meantime I changed the setup to be more simple. I uploaded more videos to this ;)
Legit.
I gotta admit this would be a good way if you wanted to save on weight
My new setup is lighter.
Or what do you mean?
Probably cheaper than a year of a gym membership tbh. Just relies on good weather.
I think you need 5 more ascenders
Hey real talk I learned some good tips from this
Thx.
In the meantime I changed the system. Taz Lov3 + one ascender for example ;)
Like using 5 seat belts while driving a car. Not saying it's not safe, but a total overkill.
Jacek Rams I stopped using the Prusik. So it’s only one seat belt with three buckles ;)
@@ripperkon I like simple systems. Have a look at this: ua-cam.com/video/kd13IaWS8gQ/v-deo.html
It's nice to have lots of shiny toys, but it's more important IMHO to simplify things.
Enjoy your climbing 😀
These guys making fun of backups and safety, probably never left the ground, and don’t even own their own gear.
one word "schwabisch"
One word „hä“
4 Backups???? Seifffffff
It was mainly because I was not able to find any experience with the Roll'N'Lock. So I made it "extra safe". My latest setup is simpler.
@@ripperkon Whats your latest? I prefer to copy ... Because rollnlock Looks perfecr
Way way way to complicated. All u need is one microtracktion or one grigi to be perfectly safe.
My new setup is simpler.
The Grigri does not slide up automatically. And with only one device you are not redundant. At least a microtraxion AND an ascender. And in best case zwo rope Strands. You can find recommendations by Petzl on their website.
But it’s also all a personal choice. I decided to use the prusic knots and the ascender below, because I was not able to find any experiences with the roll n lock.
oldrestless no, I use dynamic ropes.
Useless, if the carabiner breaks, nevermind wich god you pray, you won't be in a good situation. Two carabiner and on each a roll... Till now the best solution I personally founded is a Shunt and other two different prusiks (ropeman or wathever) on other two carabiners.
Safety is never enough pal
Alessandro Mani I am sure the carabiner will not break from a 15-20cm „fall“ into it. Even when weightened sideways.
@@ripperkon k, but as everything can happen in the outside while climbing, hitting the wall = damaging a carabiner = not safe to climb with = maybe you/I fall, maybe it breaks. Never be safe enough, I learned it while bolting new routes here in Italy (South Tyrol)
Alessandro Mani Okay, yeah. Maybe in the most awkward situation I can thing of. But with the two Prusiks I am still attached to the rope with an separate carabiner. And the third one with the Ascender below could also hold a small „fall“.
@@ripperkon fair enough, we're talking about being safe :) I wantes only to express my opinion and give my advice (or help) (if needed for a possible future) peace (climber-)bro
Alessandro Mani Yeah, sure. I didn’t misunderstand you. I appreciate your direct and honest comment. Thank you 🙏🏻 :) Stay safe ;)
Way over complicated.
My new setup is more simple. For this setup I decided to make it Ultra redundant because I couldn’t find any experiences with the rollnlock in this configuration.
wtf is up with youtube? like im gonna sit through a 3min16s advert
Sorry, hope you were able to skip it.
It wasn't just you it was all videos. Thank god it isn't doing it any more
Adam Mcneill yeah, I know that problem. But youtubers spend a lot of time for creating content and they want some money for all the effort.
I'm not against short adverts but yesterday was rediculous. Every video I watched had 2 adverts at the beginning. one for 1.30 and one for 3.16. Like I said it was only yesterday as its not happening now
Adam Mcneill okay. Strange .... usually you can skip the long ones. I often find it annoying, when listening to music and then there are these extremely long ads and you have to get back to the pc every few minutes and skip an ad :-/
You have no redundancy in your anchor. I stopped watching after that.
Two locking carabiners are not redundant?
You must be trollin’ 😅 Or what exactly do you mean?
Капец, это просто реклама магазина, какое-то безумие, 5 схватов, из них 3 дорогущие железяки( причем рол-н- лок схватывает довольно ненадежно), когда можно обойтись 1 дедовским жумаром. И при этом жиденькая станция на 1 карабине, и восьмерка🤢. Просто маньяк какой то самодеятельный наверно. 🤣
Too complicated could also mean unsafe. I would probably unhook the wrong thing and fall to my death if I had so many devices.
Yeah, it may not work for everyone.
My new setup is more simple.
Overly complicated.
This was mainly to test this system. Since I was not able to find any info about people using the RollNLock like that.
My new system is different.
@@ripperkon What is it now? Sorry if I sounded obtuse. Better to play it safe.