"Note - This is a re-upload of the first Origin of Black Metal video because the original video was taken down due to the violation of UA-cam's terms and policies"
This is a great video! Although I don’t listen to black metal anymore I still appreciate your research and thorough explanation of the BM history and lore 👍🏻
For some reason any videos about history of black metal you see these days claim “unusual song structures” 🤨. It’s always been mostly - intro, verse, chorus, verse, chorus, bridge, some sort of interlude or rarely a solo, chorus twice, outro 🤷🏻♂️
Black Sabbath didn't have satanic themes at all. Geezer Butler's lyrics were typically about drug abuse, insanity, war, conformity, governments and generally real life issues.
Indeed. Although I might not have been clear on what I meant. My reference was to imagery. More specifically album covers. Although the band itself were not satanic. They have influenced bands who would later come into being. Remember this video is about black metal. I was just trying to point out that Satanism and the Occult in metal did not start with black metal. It just became more serious and true. The fire of the Adversary was always present in metal and this can be traced as far back as Black Sabbath. I say it again. Not Sabbath's lyrics. Only the art and atmosphere as well. I'm sure you get what I'm trying to say🙂
The lyrics were of all those topics you mentioned. But they do have some lyrics involving satan. "Satan's coming round the bend." And "Satan laughing spreads his wings" come to mind. I think Black Sabbath pretty much created metal.
ppl who started playing Black Metal with the corpse paint then later stopped wearing it because of it becoming a "trend" shows within it's own genre how much of a trend it actually is& how they see it's irrelevance to Black Metal. i understand doing things out of spite for the masses& unoriginal thought processes but you abandon the origins& importance of an aspect of something when you do that.
the death of Euronymous helped Black Metal go back to just another music genre &empty trend to make a living off of instead of a movement based on actions. Varg did to Black Metal exactly what christianity does/did to other people's cultures/lives &it's not surprising considering Odin is just another cultures version of God, they're all the same God just played out in different times/cultures. people who usually believe in God want God to express Itself through just one person or culture because they more than likely don't understand what God actually is, it gives that culture power which is what a lot of people want &it excuses people in a way from taking full responsibility in what they're supposed to do for themselves.
@g-man4744 Agreed and even thought Mercyful Fate sounds nothing like 2nd wave black metal, some music historians have argued that they should be included in the group of 1st wave black metal bands for their use of Satanic imagery and content, corpse paint, and uncommercial approach that rebells against the status quo of music.
Right on, all these bands predate Norwegian black metal and sound very similar, we all know why Norway became the more popular scene, and it's mostly not because of the music....
Yeah. I think all the stuff Venom did in the late 70s was simply coincidental. True Black Metal was started by Bathory specifically the sophomore album.
Venom were the starting point other bands would build on - that meld of the speed metal of motorhead with Satanic themes was the genesis. Each band after would just push this more in an extreme direction either in terms of speed, distortion or lyrical themes
@@stevsh89 I disagree. Based on your logic; Black Sabbath would be considered Black Metal... Oh also... Motley Crue ... They have song "Shout at the Devil" And they wore all kinds of leather spiked clothing. *IMO* Venom just got undeserving credit because they just happened to call there sophomore album "Black Metal" Hell Hammer/Celtic Frost and Merciful Fate has more of an influence on Black Metal bands that came out in the early/mid eighties and most bands in the nineties. True/Real Black Metal started with Bathory. You will never convince me otherwise.
@DustyLeeSledge Sabbath is the starting point for all metal and its genres ultimately. Your point on motley crue is ridiculous. Venom sounded completely different to other bands at the time and were the first to actively embrace sounding evil and trying to scare people. Not just the lyrics but their music was fast, aggressive, vocally pushing boundaries towards extreme metal and importantly also contained the beginnings of atmosphere with tracks like Buried Alive. If you can't hear how much bands like Hellhammer/Bathory sounded like Venom, you need to get your ears checked. I agree both of these bands then pushed things further towards what we know as black metal today but Venom was the first obvious step in that direction. Not to mention the stage names too.
@@stevsh89 You need to get your ears checked "Buried Alive" has more in common with "One" by Metallica than anything Bathory ever put out. You will never convince me. Venom is just another over rated limey generic metal band. Nothing special.
Odin is God, the head "main" God figure in paganism like God/YHWY is in judeo•christianity. why would ppl in Black Metal hail Odin/God when the origins r Satanic? even from Venom & others in the "1st wave" who were introducing a more atheistic type of satanism.
I went to see Cannibal Corpse and the opening band was black metal, it was good show, but at the end the singer told the crowd to repeat after him "hail Satan" like the Nazis and then realized that I can support Death Metal bands but No Black Metal. I don't believe in heaven or hell, so why follow the lord of darkness? Death metal is like horror films , is art. Black Metal is like religion, too many sheeps followers
Ok I see what you're saying and yes some bands believe this, others not. Some do it as an opposition or an invocation of power but no use mentioning that to someone who doesn't understand. Also there are even more that deal with Gnosticism, real occultism which goes far beyond your common Satan worship. There are bands who have lyrics based on philosophy, nature, Hermeticism, Individualism, Mythology etc, these are only a few examples the list goes on but to disregard the entire genre based on just one incident is an act of folly. What about satanic death metal, ever hear that? What about metal in general? Are occult and satanic themes not in all metal genres? Metal has always dealt with topics other genres tend not to. The forbidden or occult. This is only one of the reasons why it resonates with so many people, as it serves as a voice,something real that people can actually relate to, if a band has lyrics that you don't resonate with. Just move on....but black metal is much deeper than you think. So think before you make such statements. Just a thought. 😄
@@crownofrebellion True, some death metal bands are more satantic than some black metal bands. both death and black are very diverse genres, not to mention that even satanism itself is very diverse. Dark funeral believes in the church of satan/Anton Lavey's satanism while Watain are real theological satanists.
@@crownofrebellion I agree with you, but when it comes to the fans, a lot of them seem to care way more about edgy themes (mostly satanism and ns) and aesthetics than about the actual music
Like varg said mayhem sick and only had one good song . They do suck I've seen them live. Anyhow varg th wrote all the burzum stuff before he met mayhem.
Yea but In the same albums that all those songs are in have songs that talk about the opposite like Lord of this world, electric funeral and sabbath bloody sabbath
@@masterroshi2779 The Sabbath Bloody Sabbath album had an interesting cover with the angels comforting the person on the front and the demons clutching at him on the back. I know that Bill Ward is either an Agnostic or an Atheist but Ozzy always maintained that he believes in God as does Geezer Butler. In the case of the latter it was due to getting too heavily into the occult.
@@kencoakley3959 yea In early Sabbath photos you can see geezer throw up the devil horns and he’s the one who wrote most of sabbaths lyrics mostly about each side but yea they did get occused of being satanist when they weren’t
The best informative source about BM I have seen in years. 🤘
Thank you so much buddy. I appreciate your words 🔥🤘
"Note - This is a re-upload of the first Origin of Black Metal video because the original video was taken down due to the violation of UA-cam's terms and policies"
This was well put together! Very concise and easy to follow. Like a knowledge download.
Thank you so much for your feedback. I appreciate it.
that intro was pure nostalgia
Great to have this video back up! 🤘
Thanks brother 🤘
Really enjoyed this man. Keep it up!
Thank you so much.
Never justify yourself for expressing views of extreme nature.
THIS was very good 👍
Thank you
Great vid: a blast from the past.
Thank you so much
This is a great video! Although I don’t listen to black metal anymore I still appreciate your research and thorough explanation of the BM history and lore 👍🏻
For some reason any videos about history of black metal you see these days claim “unusual song structures” 🤨. It’s always been mostly - intro, verse, chorus, verse, chorus, bridge, some sort of interlude or rarely a solo, chorus twice, outro 🤷🏻♂️
Good video! Love content like this
Thank you
Black Sabbath didn't have satanic themes at all. Geezer Butler's lyrics were typically about drug abuse, insanity, war, conformity, governments and generally real life issues.
Indeed. Although I might not have been clear on what I meant. My reference was to imagery. More specifically album covers. Although the band itself were not satanic. They have influenced bands who would later come into being. Remember this video is about black metal. I was just trying to point out that Satanism and the Occult in metal did not start with black metal. It just became more serious and true. The fire of the Adversary was always present in metal and this can be traced as far back as Black Sabbath. I say it again. Not Sabbath's lyrics. Only the art and atmosphere as well. I'm sure you get what I'm trying to say🙂
@@crownofrebellion I suppose I know what you mean.
The lyrics were of all those topics you mentioned. But they do have some lyrics involving satan. "Satan's coming round the bend." And "Satan laughing spreads his wings" come to mind. I think Black Sabbath pretty much created metal.
Mayhem was my first black metal band with beherit, still one of my favourite bands of all time.
23:43 band name?
That would be "Ondskapt" from Sweden
5:20 who is the band playing there?
Mayhem with Maniac on vocals it then switches to Frost drumming and after that Emperor
Never went into black metal that much, but would never say no to some good ol" burzum
ppl who started playing Black Metal with the corpse paint then later stopped wearing it because of it becoming a "trend" shows within it's own genre how much of a trend it actually is& how they see it's irrelevance to Black Metal. i understand doing things out of spite for the masses& unoriginal thought processes but you abandon the origins& importance of an aspect of something when you do that.
the death of Euronymous helped Black Metal go back to just another music genre &empty trend to make a living off of instead of a movement based on actions. Varg did to Black Metal exactly what christianity does/did to other people's cultures/lives &it's not surprising considering Odin is just another cultures version of God, they're all the same God just played out in different times/cultures. people who usually believe in God want God to express Itself through just one person or culture because they more than likely don't understand what God actually is, it gives that culture power which is what a lot of people want &it excuses people in a way from taking full responsibility in what they're supposed to do for themselves.
They forgot Merciful Fate
This video is about Black Metal......
@@mCblue79it's about the ORIGINS, which Mercyful fate is very much a part of.
@g-man4744 Agreed and even thought Mercyful Fate sounds nothing like 2nd wave black metal, some music historians have argued that they should be included in the group of 1st wave black metal bands for their use of Satanic imagery and content, corpse paint, and uncommercial approach that rebells against the status quo of music.
And "Samael" "Root" "Tormentor " "Master's Hammer " ????
Absolutely also Mortuary Drape
Right on, all these bands predate Norwegian black metal and sound very similar, we all know why Norway became the more popular scene, and it's mostly not because of the music....
Venom?
Yeah. I think all the stuff Venom did in the late 70s was simply coincidental.
True Black Metal was started by Bathory specifically the sophomore album.
Venom were the starting point other bands would build on - that meld of the speed metal of motorhead with Satanic themes was the genesis. Each band after would just push this more in an extreme direction either in terms of speed, distortion or lyrical themes
@@stevsh89
I disagree.
Based on your logic;
Black Sabbath would be considered Black Metal...
Oh also...
Motley Crue ... They have song "Shout at the Devil"
And they wore all kinds of leather spiked clothing.
*IMO*
Venom just got undeserving credit because they just happened to call there sophomore album
"Black Metal"
Hell Hammer/Celtic Frost and Merciful Fate has more of an influence on Black Metal bands that came out in the early/mid eighties and most bands in the nineties.
True/Real Black Metal started with Bathory.
You will never convince me otherwise.
@DustyLeeSledge Sabbath is the starting point for all metal and its genres ultimately. Your point on motley crue is ridiculous.
Venom sounded completely different to other bands at the time and were the first to actively embrace sounding evil and trying to scare people. Not just the lyrics but their music was fast, aggressive, vocally pushing boundaries towards extreme metal and importantly also contained the beginnings of atmosphere with tracks like Buried Alive. If you can't hear how much bands like Hellhammer/Bathory sounded like Venom, you need to get your ears checked. I agree both of these bands then pushed things further towards what we know as black metal today but Venom was the first obvious step in that direction. Not to mention the stage names too.
@@stevsh89
You need to get your ears checked
"Buried Alive" has more in common with "One" by Metallica than anything Bathory ever put out.
You will never convince me.
Venom is just another over rated limey generic metal band.
Nothing special.
These edgy tiktok black metal heads hating on mayhem are just pissing me off💀
Brilliant!!!!?
Thanks for the feedback man!
hail odin not satan
Odin is God, the head "main" God figure in paganism like God/YHWY is in judeo•christianity. why would ppl in Black Metal hail Odin/God when the origins r Satanic? even from Venom & others in the "1st wave" who were introducing a more atheistic type of satanism.
Why in the hell didn't 1349 get some recognition frost is the best black metal drummer to ever hold a set of drum sticks hail 1349
Hellhammer is good too.
1349 was one of the first black metal bands I saw in concert
Just saying Mayhem 😂😂
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@@KeeganMakesOpinions thank you
I went to see Cannibal Corpse and the opening band was black metal, it was good show, but at the end the singer told the crowd to repeat after him "hail Satan" like the Nazis and then realized that I can support Death Metal bands but No Black Metal.
I don't believe in heaven or hell, so why follow the lord of darkness?
Death metal is like horror films , is art.
Black Metal is like religion, too many sheeps followers
Ok I see what you're saying and yes some bands believe this, others not. Some do it as an opposition or an invocation of power but no use mentioning that to someone who doesn't understand. Also there are even more that deal with Gnosticism, real occultism which goes far beyond your common Satan worship. There are bands who have lyrics based on philosophy, nature, Hermeticism, Individualism, Mythology etc, these are only a few examples the list goes on but to disregard the entire genre based on just one incident is an act of folly. What about satanic death metal, ever hear that? What about metal in general? Are occult and satanic themes not in all metal genres? Metal has always dealt with topics other genres tend not to. The forbidden or occult. This is only one of the reasons why it resonates with so many people, as it serves as a voice,something real that people can actually relate to, if a band has lyrics that you don't resonate with. Just move on....but black metal is much deeper than you think. So think before you make such statements. Just a thought. 😄
@@crownofrebellion True, some death metal bands are more satantic than some black metal bands. both death and black are very diverse genres, not to mention that even satanism itself is very diverse. Dark funeral believes in the church of satan/Anton Lavey's satanism while Watain are real theological satanists.
@@crownofrebellion I agree with you, but when it comes to the fans, a lot of them seem to care way more about edgy themes (mostly satanism and ns) and aesthetics than about the actual music
Like varg said mayhem sick and only had one good song . They do suck I've seen them live. Anyhow varg th wrote all the burzum stuff before he met mayhem.
Black Sabbath, anti-Christian? I guess this guy never heard War Pigs, After Forever and Spiral Architect.
Yea but In the same albums that all those songs are in have songs that talk about the opposite like Lord of this world, electric funeral and sabbath bloody sabbath
@@masterroshi2779 The Sabbath Bloody Sabbath album had an interesting cover with the angels comforting the person on the front and the demons clutching at him on the back. I know that Bill Ward is either an Agnostic or an Atheist but Ozzy always maintained that he believes in God as does Geezer Butler. In the case of the latter it was due to getting too heavily into the occult.
@@kencoakley3959 yea In early Sabbath photos you can see geezer throw up the devil horns and he’s the one who wrote most of sabbaths lyrics mostly about each side but yea they did get occused of being satanist when they weren’t
😂😂😂😂 all the european bands copied the latinamerican bands of the 80s😊
Facts, but they themselves would admit that
Black metal is just Norwegian surf rock with distortion xD
Why are they Gae?
Sarcófago and Vulcano
Sarcófago eternal
Jesus is someth8ng else