Congratulations! Super cool that you tracked your hours!! Wish I had done that. Yes, with the hours you did you're probably in solid B1 territory when you did this video. That's actually a highly commendable number of hours for 1 year. Yes, B2 should take around ~600-700 hours which I consider "basic fluency". So youre around 1/3 of the way there. Note reaching C1(which I consider near native fluency, although with an accent) is more like a 1,200 hour endeavor (i.e. around twice as long as B2). So, you're about 1/6 of the way to C1. Yes -- it takes a ton of hours to get good at a language. 🙂 On my end I started learning Brazilian Portuguese about 1.5 years ago. Didn't track my hours but estimate, ~300 hours (so not quite as good as you in terms of hours). I consider myself a solid B1 and I can speak at B1 level -- which some people can't do at B1. I estimate my vocab right now is ~5K passive words -- with maybe ~2K of those words in my active vocabulary. So, getting there... -- at my current rate of study I estimate I should be a ~B2 in ~2 more years. Super nice video! Rare to see someone actually have "time" data, which was super interesting.
My mother tongue is spanish, I can understand you. Since I used a mix of Rosetta Stone, Duolingo, Pimsleur audios, and Assimil, my brain started to think and understand English. I've never finished any of this resources, but I attained a very good level of comprehension, being capable of Interpret naturally what I listen and read(this last ability is favorable to me because I love reading). I'd also add, that Input Is easier to me than output, and that you are too beautiful.🌹
When I saw the title of the video I didn't think you meant you had actually tracked everything down to the second! Super impressive. By now I'm too far along in my current language learning to get such an accurate number, but I just started Italian and Japanese last month from scratch, and I think I can get a pretty accurate number by going back and tracking every podcast I have listened to over the past few weeks. After watching this video I'm super motivated to measure my language learning progress. Great videos!
were you studying linguistics during this time or is that something you started learning about later on? if the former is true, do you feel like it influenced how you studied French?
Not sure why I’m on your video or commenting but anyway.. haha to get from 0 to b1 is a lot faster than b1 - B2! I would say I got to b2 in Spanish in about a year and a half which in hours terms was probably about 750 hours. I only count input i.e. reading, listening, watching + conversations to my hours though.. not that I really did too much more
750 hours in 1.5 years is extremely commendable! That's a lot of hours. Yes -- you should definitely be in solid B2 territory, probably what I call a strong B2. btw: Not sure what else there is to count? Reading, listening, watching, and speaking -- are pretty much the four things you need to do to learn a language. Agreed. B1 is about ~300 (+-20%) total hours, B2 is about ~600 (+- 20%) total hours, and C1 is about 1,200 (+-20%) total hours. (for a similar language). It's roughly a doubling effect. Not sure what it would take to get to C2, but C2 is at least a doubling -- and I think even more.
I think that the 750 hours thing is assuming that the learner only knows english and is monolingual. Well I have no idea what assumptions that framework makes and it is quite frustrating to me in general. You mentioned in another video that you were pretty proficient at Spanish; how much did that help you with learning French? In my experience learning my first L2 was a lot more tedious and time consuming than consecutive ones, since I had learned valuable lessons like I hate duolingo.
I think the two things that affect the hours are 1) learning efficiency (if you're just watching videos that's inefficient, and you do need diversity, can't just do one thing) and yes, 2) how good you are at learning languages -- which having a 2nd language already might make you more efficient at learning a 3rd). My rough formula is that it takes 600 hours (+ or - up to 20%) to get to B2. Already knowing a 2nd language also helps with "confidence" as you know you've already succeeded in learning a 2nd language.
Congratulations! Super cool that you tracked your hours!! Wish I had done that. Yes, with the hours you did you're probably in solid B1 territory when you did this video. That's actually a highly commendable number of hours for 1 year.
Yes, B2 should take around ~600-700 hours which I consider "basic fluency". So youre around 1/3 of the way there. Note reaching C1(which I consider near native fluency, although with an accent) is more like a 1,200 hour endeavor (i.e. around twice as long as B2). So, you're about 1/6 of the way to C1. Yes -- it takes a ton of hours to get good at a language. 🙂
On my end I started learning Brazilian Portuguese about 1.5 years ago. Didn't track my hours but estimate, ~300 hours (so not quite as good as you in terms of hours). I consider myself a solid B1 and I can speak at B1 level -- which some people can't do at B1. I estimate my vocab right now is ~5K passive words -- with maybe ~2K of those words in my active vocabulary. So, getting there... -- at my current rate of study I estimate I should be a ~B2 in ~2 more years.
Super nice video! Rare to see someone actually have "time" data, which was super interesting.
I also love that quilt, almost as much as Barbara Haupt does. Very interesting data about French learning.
My mother tongue is spanish, I can understand you. Since I used a mix of Rosetta Stone, Duolingo, Pimsleur audios, and Assimil, my brain started to think and understand English. I've never finished any of this resources, but I attained a very good level of comprehension, being capable of Interpret naturally what I listen and read(this last ability is favorable to me because I love reading). I'd also add, that Input Is easier to me than output, and that you are too beautiful.🌹
When I saw the title of the video I didn't think you meant you had actually tracked everything down to the second! Super impressive. By now I'm too far along in my current language learning to get such an accurate number, but I just started Italian and Japanese last month from scratch, and I think I can get a pretty accurate number by going back and tracking every podcast I have listened to over the past few weeks. After watching this video I'm super motivated to measure my language learning progress. Great videos!
Cool. Sounds like Japanese would be a good challenge for you. And, by the way, I love that quilt on your wall!
This is so well-organized! super !
Finally! I've been waiting this video.
were you studying linguistics during this time or is that something you started learning about later on? if the former is true, do you feel like it influenced how you studied French?
Not sure why I’m on your video or commenting but anyway.. haha to get from 0 to b1 is a lot faster than b1 - B2! I would say I got to b2 in Spanish in about a year and a half which in hours terms was probably about 750 hours. I only count input i.e. reading, listening, watching + conversations to my hours though.. not that I really did too much more
750 hours in 1.5 years is extremely commendable! That's a lot of hours. Yes -- you should definitely be in solid B2 territory, probably what I call a strong B2. btw: Not sure what else there is to count? Reading, listening, watching, and speaking -- are pretty much the four things you need to do to learn a language.
Agreed. B1 is about ~300 (+-20%) total hours, B2 is about ~600 (+- 20%) total hours, and C1 is about 1,200 (+-20%) total hours. (for a similar language). It's roughly a doubling effect. Not sure what it would take to get to C2, but C2 is at least a doubling -- and I think even more.
I think that the 750 hours thing is assuming that the learner only knows english and is monolingual. Well I have no idea what assumptions that framework makes and it is quite frustrating to me in general. You mentioned in another video that you were pretty proficient at Spanish; how much did that help you with learning French? In my experience learning my first L2 was a lot more tedious and time consuming than consecutive ones, since I had learned valuable lessons like I hate duolingo.
I think the two things that affect the hours are 1) learning efficiency (if you're just watching videos that's inefficient, and you do need diversity, can't just do one thing) and yes, 2) how good you are at learning languages -- which having a 2nd language already might make you more efficient at learning a 3rd). My rough formula is that it takes 600 hours (+ or - up to 20%) to get to B2.
Already knowing a 2nd language also helps with "confidence" as you know you've already succeeded in learning a 2nd language.
Gracias por tus consejos espero aprender ingles para poder entenderte 🙂
faut du courage pour apprendre une autre langue j espérer que ça vas te servir dans ta vie :p