As someone who kinda avoided trials for years, I can firmly say that the special ammo changes have made my kinda fall in love with the mode. Just kinda wish the prophet wasn't the adept of the week LOL
@@jujy8 Because of how strong most specials are. Players being forced to play on a playing field that is arguably more skillful consider to be more skillful feels more fair to me.
@@sh1nob1_wan_kanob1 it may seem more fair but also for a below average player is way harder because you can’t win agains a good player on a primary duel… are you sure you are not being placebo tricked because of the image you have of trials now and the fact that the playerbase is bigger than it was before?
conditional isn't nearly as bad as a problem as people make it out to be. However, now that supers have been toned down, I think it is safe to reduce fall off range. I am okay with its niche being high handling high damaage but it needs to be less forgiving.
I would try it if RNG would bless me with it. It's the exact roll I farmed for all that week, first chest over and over for a minimum of 5 hours a day and got every other roll but that one
I’m in love with the spec ammo changes, but this week I feel like I was getting spec ammo wayyyy to frequent. Had instances where I was 6 to even 8 shots deep 😂I think the way they had it last week was perfect, maybe take an assists worth off?
Nope, ive lost a lot of round ones bc enemy used special. Yet they fall apart without it and i get a lot of special bc i land primary kills. They dont get special bc they cant land their shots and get a kill. So less special. If jake has a lot of it, dont mean the enemy does
@@JohnWilson-cs8twdestiny doesn’t have tournaments because the competitive sweaty players wants to set certain rules as in no smgs no pulses no scouts no fusions no sidearms banned certain nades and perks etc basically just leaving hc and shotty and bungie didn’t like that so they never supported the competitive scene your the type to want fusions to be allowed in a competitive tournament 😂
I have a tap, zen, ricochet, corkscrew, stability mw. Thing doesn't bounce whatsoever, makes hitting all crits so easy and honestly I prefer it over my target lock, keep away, ricochet, arrowhead, range mw roll. If I was to change anything I'd put a range mw over the stability mw and it'd be picture perfect.
I got one with smallbore, ricochet,zen and tap with stability masterwork for a whooping 69 stability and 72 range 😊. Lemme know if you wanna try it out Jake
The special feels a bit quick to me as well. To me it's actually easier to practice sniping with less special on the field, because I'm getting shotgunned and counter-sniped less.
My only complaint is that it’s a lot easier for Jake to rack up 3 kills for special than it is for the average person. I’ll maybe get 3 special rounds per game, but I also play more passively.
3:50 I think that person confused 3% for 3 damage. Hope the trip went o.k., turn into a mess upstate. Power was out for a few hours where I live and was sketchy for people I know.
Jake, keep in mind for you a person who gets consistent kills this is too much special but for lower skill people like myself this is making special much more relevant
They made the special changes to make it less relevant..because your a low skill player do not expect special treatment...don't complain and rely on special..get better
Matchmaking is broken, I've literally 70% wr solo only these past two weekends and 8 flawlesses so far on J4 and supposedly i went 7-0 4 times and 7-1 3 times last weekend aswell. This new meta is so good lmao... everyone is a bot without specials and abilities spam.
Definitely preferred last weeks special ammo economy. I was having a lot more fun dueling with primaries more often, where i would forget i even had a special. i’d end the game with 10-12 shots.
i agree on the special ammo generation, especially all the nonsense bungie's been trying to feed us on the "importance of effective primary engagements and hitting your crits"
I feel the same exact way! It just amazes me how the game thinks I play better than Jake. Therefore, all of my teammates throw every match I'm in. But the enemy team that when I look up their stats have better KDs than me. All three of them in solos for some reason. I get teammates that aren't even bronze. The game refuses to put people on my team at my skill level. But it seems that there are always an abundance of people at my skill level that can be on the enemy team. But whenever we got to put people on my team that's supposed to be at the skill level of the lobby, you can never find them taking 10 minutes to find the two worst enemies in the entire game to put on my team! All this game is is curated matches. If Bungie wants you to win, you're going to win. If Bungie wants you to lose, you're going to lose. It's as simple as that! At this point I feel like most of the community is in a blacklisted where they never get teammates that they're supposed to get to help them in a match. But if you're a streamer, you're whitelisted meaning all of the bad players are on the enemy team and all of the good players are on your team.
@@TaureanSmokethat’s an outlandish theory😂 trials specifically has no SBMM… We all get trash teammates but I don’t think bungie thinks u play better than him lol. I think Jake just had a 3 KD and can practically win games by himself unless the other team is stacked. Sometimes u just gotta try and play with ur “bad teammates”. Jake talks about this like every weekend but I agree with him. In his words there’s no way you have the bad teammate every single game. And if you say you do, it probably means you’re just as bad of a teammate…
@@jordankeeter1339 trying to tell a professional player like me. Maybe just try to play around your teammates that are jumping off the map and literally running in 1v3s away from the duo that's on their team. How could you possibly play around that dude? They're literally throwing like shut up. And how could it possibly be a theory when the overwhelming sentiment of the entire gaming community on this game says exactly what I'm saying right now. We're all complaining that Jake's teammates always usually have a 2kd. When barely any of my teammates ever have a 2kd. How can you possibly tell me this when I'm looking up the stats of every one of the teammates on my team and every one of the enemy team and I am never on the team with the two players that are at the same skill level as me. No, it is always me the outlier with almost a 2kd and with two teammates that barely have a 1kd. How could you possibly tell me I'm wrong when the stats are right here in my face and I'm looking them up every game. How could you tell me that what I'm saying is just a conspiracy theory when the game is obviously only putting me up against three people that have the same KD as me and putting two people on my team that don't even have half of my KD. How could you possibly tell me that that's a conspiracy theory. How could you possibly say it's a conspiracy theory when literally everybody I face or always at my skill level or higher than me. But everybody on my teammate is always three tears below me and everybody I'm fighting. Like stop dude get off bungie's dick the games are curated. It's a fact everyone knows it. The only one that doesn't know it is you just like how half the destiny community is using Cronus and zims but I bet you're going to say they're not doing that as well, huh?! All I'm saying is I want to go back to how it used to be when I was worse at the game winning 50% of my games. Now I'm only winning 10 to 20% of my games because I'm only getting on teams where people are throwing matches. And yes, you're right. Sbmm isn't in trials, but you know what is in trials. Your teammates always jumping off the map forcing you to lose games. Forcing you to be in 1v3s 80% of your games. Don't tell me it's a conspiracy. No clown it's a fact! Not to mention waiting 10 minutes for them to find the worst players in the game on my team. Maybe we can matchmake one day and you can help my 2kd ass go flawless. By yourself because you're just the best player in the game. With perfect matchmaking.
@@PLNB0019 That's because that's the reality. As a 1.5 or 2kd player, our only job in this game is to force other people on our team to go flawless via a carry. We will never ever in this game be able to get carried. And overall that's the problem. Bungie wants one person to carry two ass players but wanting that one player to basically be able to kill all three of the enemy team consistently in order to go flawless. This system is total ass and it makes so much sense why nobody plays this game anymore. This game should die. Marathon should die and Sony should 86 Bungie studio.
Conditional finality absolutely broken. It outranges chaperone with only meeting a body shot. It's crazy. Those who play against it constantly, are you thinking the same thing?
Jake you keep saying that “they changed how much special ammo we get” when it was a bug that was fixed so please stop saying this and misinforming the community.
Bro complaining about special is insane such a bot I can’t believe people like running around with sidearms using dumb shi like wormhusk and heal clip so much skill or just holding hands with auto rifles and team shooting takes no skill whatsoever such bot gameplay we need special ammo to combat certain play styles like rushing sidearms and smgs users and to make plays like 1v3 way more doable way more doable than trying to kill 3 people with just your primary by yourself
Or just play with your team and stop crutching on shotguns the whole game. It’s literally so easy to end up w 6 special shots if you just use ur primary. This weekend felt like we were getting TOO MUCH special ammo to a lot of ppl. Doesn’t work if you’re straight lining with a shotgun the whole match tho (It’s a good thing & bungie isn’t gonna change it)
Isn’t funny how people cried and complain how snipers were so over powered and opressive than as soon as they limit the special ammo no one is sniping anymore?🤦🏽♂️🥱if it was so easy and so overpowered wouldn’t people still be doing it isn’t it just a free kill in the beginning of the round as y’all bots would say 😂💀this game isn’t the same without special just enforces team shooting boring gameplay no skill needed gameplay it’s sad and it’s the perfect gameplay for gernader jake slow bot gameplay
Hey Jake. Just wanted to say thank you for the awesome help videos. i went flawless twice today thanks to your tips. my first times being flawless.
As someone who kinda avoided trials for years, I can firmly say that the special ammo changes have made my kinda fall in love with the mode. Just kinda wish the prophet wasn't the adept of the week LOL
So green ammo was just the reason? I think you’ve been placebo tricked hard man 😂
@@jujy8 Nah man, it genuinely helped with my time in trials.
@@sh1nob1_wan_kanob1 why exactly? Without green ammo every round the gap between good and bad players have never been bigger
@@jujy8 Because of how strong most specials are. Players being forced to play on a playing field that is arguably more skillful consider to be more skillful feels more fair to me.
@@sh1nob1_wan_kanob1 it may seem more fair but also for a below average player is way harder because you can’t win agains a good player on a primary duel… are you sure you are not being placebo tricked because of the image you have of trials now and the fact that the playerbase is bigger than it was before?
5:15 I'm guessing the Titan was trying to do a Death from Above but forgot he use Tiger Knee. That was awkward af xD
As a Tiger Knee enjoyer that looked more like he tried to trust the auto targeting a little too much. Been there before myself lol
Ammo rate is perfect now, you have it when you need it but you can’t just run special as your primary.
01:55 no they didn't screw up the ammo. they screweed up conditional finalty
conditional isn't nearly as bad as a problem as people make it out to be. However, now that supers have been toned down, I think it is safe to reduce fall off range. I am okay with its niche being high handling high damaage but it needs to be less forgiving.
This is basically the old og roll back in the uriel’s gift days
Prosecutor is fun, but Summoner will always be my favorite auto. It feels just sooo good, much better than it deserves, I love it
I LMFAO at the fart “exscuse” 😂 was not expecting that lol
Got this with zen, tap the trigger, polygonal, ricochet rounds, and a range masterwork. It destroys
I would try it if RNG would bless me with it. It's the exact roll I farmed for all that week, first chest over and over for a minimum of 5 hours a day and got every other roll but that one
I’m in love with the spec ammo changes, but this week I feel like I was getting spec ammo wayyyy to frequent. Had instances where I was 6 to even 8 shots deep 😂I think the way they had it last week was perfect, maybe take an assists worth off?
I didn't even know they changed it. It was fine last week.
Does the hard light catalyst drop in pvp matches ?
It's kinda ridiculous when I have 8 special mid match.
Imo, there’s nothing wrong with getting more special ammo. If the enemy has it, you have it too, so use it! It’s a lot more fun and fast paced.
Nope, ive lost a lot of round ones bc enemy used special. Yet they fall apart without it and i get a lot of special bc i land primary kills. They dont get special bc they cant land their shots and get a kill. So less special. If jake has a lot of it, dont mean the enemy does
Nah. Take the game back to primaries….(weapons that take skills, where it doesn’t take 1 button to get a kill)
That’s why destiny doesn’t have tourneys…. Cuz it’s so unbalanced and there’s so much cheesy shit to get kills in pvp
@@JohnWilson-cs8twgo play cod
@@JohnWilson-cs8twdestiny doesn’t have tournaments because the competitive sweaty players wants to set certain rules as in no smgs no pulses no scouts no fusions no sidearms banned certain nades and perks etc basically just leaving hc and shotty and bungie didn’t like that so they never supported the competitive scene your the type to want fusions to be allowed in a competitive tournament 😂
I have a tap, zen, ricochet, corkscrew, stability mw. Thing doesn't bounce whatsoever, makes hitting all crits so easy and honestly I prefer it over my target lock, keep away, ricochet, arrowhead, range mw roll.
If I was to change anything I'd put a range mw over the stability mw and it'd be picture perfect.
Jade rabbit + helios or Unending tempest + polaris lance ? (Console)
Tempest and Lance hit if you got the right build for unending Tempest
@nomadicpast I believe Target lock is what most people end up having on theirs I have one that has Target lock and gut shot
@@blackholefirecs my unending is range masterwork target lock accurized perpetual motion and full bore
I got one with smallbore, ricochet,zen and tap with stability masterwork for a whooping 69 stability and 72 range 😊. Lemme know if you wanna try it out Jake
The special feels a bit quick to me as well. To me it's actually easier to practice sniping with less special on the field, because I'm getting shotgunned and counter-sniped less.
My only complaint is that it’s a lot easier for Jake to rack up 3 kills for special than it is for the average person. I’ll maybe get 3 special rounds per game, but I also play more passively.
When the dungeon comes back around I'm spending all week farming the shit out of the first boss, wanna have enough rolls to mix it up.
Yeah, too bad they are nerfing them already😢. I missed out so I’ll be farming as well for the AR and the pulse (darkest before)
@@derek3154 yea it was bound to happen it's just too good even with an off roll or odd pairing
3:50 I think that person confused 3% for 3 damage.
Hope the trip went o.k., turn into a mess upstate. Power was out for a few hours where I live and was sketchy for people I know.
p.s. You were cheated out of 35 kills by the quitters.
I have an arrowhead Ricochet zen moment tap the trigger stability MW prosecutor and its amazing
Does anyone know what ship that is he’s using?
Jake, keep in mind for you a person who gets consistent kills this is too much special but for lower skill people like myself this is making special much more relevant
They made the special changes to make it less relevant..because your a low skill player do not expect special treatment...don't complain and rely on special..get better
@@xavierweathington3261 im a pve player trying to get pvp loot im not pouring my time into “getting better”
Honestly, how do you get lobbies like these?
he block eveydud
Im legit playing against Frost…This man is playing against blind children with no thumbs…
@@Jerahzz 100% 😂
@@SaSaSoSaSo but can’t you still play against blocked guardians?
Streamer benefits. So they intrigue morons to play their game
What's the shader called you're using on your Hunter?
vizier regalia
Thank you!
After ive done all 7 win on mercy card on trials do I reset it or keep it all boxes yellow?
you can keep playing on the completed card to get more loot, but after you reset it youll have to get another card
Matchmaking is broken, I've literally 70% wr solo only these past two weekends and 8 flawlesses so far on J4 and supposedly i went 7-0 4 times and 7-1 3 times last weekend aswell.
This new meta is so good lmao... everyone is a bot without specials and abilities spam.
Ikr? And you can see the sg apes crying in the comments that the new sandbox is just no fun :D
Armor-Piercing Rounds or High-Caliber Rounds…??
High caliber rounds!
Can you bakris through a titan shield without taking dmg?🤔
There is way too much special ammo in trials this weekend. They need to go back to the mistake last weekend.
9:57 shatter dive in 2024 lol
You gotta try positive outlook before they nerf it. Its hands down the best 450 rn just like they stated in the twab.
idk how to feel about this week, very spammy with auto rifles im having trouble being pre fired every lane lol
Bring back finite primary like pre season 15
Haven't played for 2 years but whats the thing on that special ammo transmat i also see it in frostbolt his videos
So you haven't played in two years but you watch the game wiythout knowing changes. You are weird
@@VulpeculaOdin without *
I have this roll with arrowhead and ric rounds
Honestly they should just make it so you don’t spawn with any special and then progress for some.
Definitely preferred last weeks special ammo economy. I was having a lot more fun dueling with primaries more often, where i would forget i even had a special. i’d end the game with 10-12 shots.
Lol, that last round
i agree on the special ammo generation, especially all the nonsense bungie's been trying to feed us on the "importance of effective primary engagements and hitting your crits"
You sound like you can’t aim lol
@@JohnWilson-cs8tw lol if you say so
Man i love jav 4
Imagine one of the greatest crucible players out there, complaining about a system that awards great crucible players with special ammo. Crazy.
34 rounds up to 35 … keeps AR
I enjoy your videos but watching you get the best teammates in every game makes me sick.
I feel the same exact way! It just amazes me how the game thinks I play better than Jake. Therefore, all of my teammates throw every match I'm in. But the enemy team that when I look up their stats have better KDs than me. All three of them in solos for some reason. I get teammates that aren't even bronze. The game refuses to put people on my team at my skill level. But it seems that there are always an abundance of people at my skill level that can be on the enemy team. But whenever we got to put people on my team that's supposed to be at the skill level of the lobby, you can never find them taking 10 minutes to find the two worst enemies in the entire game to put on my team! All this game is is curated matches. If Bungie wants you to win, you're going to win. If Bungie wants you to lose, you're going to lose. It's as simple as that! At this point I feel like most of the community is in a blacklisted where they never get teammates that they're supposed to get to help them in a match. But if you're a streamer, you're whitelisted meaning all of the bad players are on the enemy team and all of the good players are on your team.
@@TaureanSmokethat’s an outlandish theory😂 trials specifically has no SBMM… We all get trash teammates but I don’t think bungie thinks u play better than him lol. I think Jake just had a 3 KD and can practically win games by himself unless the other team is stacked. Sometimes u just gotta try and play with ur “bad teammates”. Jake talks about this like every weekend but I agree with him. In his words there’s no way you have the bad teammate every single game. And if you say you do, it probably means you’re just as bad of a teammate…
@@TaureanSmoke that’s the experience my friends and I generally have.
@@jordankeeter1339 trying to tell a professional player like me. Maybe just try to play around your teammates that are jumping off the map and literally running in 1v3s away from the duo that's on their team. How could you possibly play around that dude? They're literally throwing like shut up. And how could it possibly be a theory when the overwhelming sentiment of the entire gaming community on this game says exactly what I'm saying right now. We're all complaining that Jake's teammates always usually have a 2kd. When barely any of my teammates ever have a 2kd. How can you possibly tell me this when I'm looking up the stats of every one of the teammates on my team and every one of the enemy team and I am never on the team with the two players that are at the same skill level as me. No, it is always me the outlier with almost a 2kd and with two teammates that barely have a 1kd. How could you possibly tell me I'm wrong when the stats are right here in my face and I'm looking them up every game. How could you tell me that what I'm saying is just a conspiracy theory when the game is obviously only putting me up against three people that have the same KD as me and putting two people on my team that don't even have half of my KD. How could you possibly tell me that that's a conspiracy theory. How could you possibly say it's a conspiracy theory when literally everybody I face or always at my skill level or higher than me. But everybody on my teammate is always three tears below me and everybody I'm fighting. Like stop dude get off bungie's dick the games are curated. It's a fact everyone knows it. The only one that doesn't know it is you just like how half the destiny community is using Cronus and zims but I bet you're going to say they're not doing that as well, huh?! All I'm saying is I want to go back to how it used to be when I was worse at the game winning 50% of my games. Now I'm only winning 10 to 20% of my games because I'm only getting on teams where people are throwing matches. And yes, you're right. Sbmm isn't in trials, but you know what is in trials. Your teammates always jumping off the map forcing you to lose games. Forcing you to be in 1v3s 80% of your games. Don't tell me it's a conspiracy. No clown it's a fact! Not to mention waiting 10 minutes for them to find the worst players in the game on my team. Maybe we can matchmake one day and you can help my 2kd ass go flawless. By yourself because you're just the best player in the game. With perfect matchmaking.
@@PLNB0019 That's because that's the reality. As a 1.5 or 2kd player, our only job in this game is to force other people on our team to go flawless via a carry. We will never ever in this game be able to get carried. And overall that's the problem. Bungie wants one person to carry two ass players but wanting that one player to basically be able to kill all three of the enemy team consistently in order to go flawless. This system is total ass and it makes so much sense why nobody plays this game anymore. This game should die. Marathon should die and Sony should 86 Bungie studio.
I’d pay money to play against players that are this bad…..
first ever trials game i played against you, it was AWFUL lmfao, was fun nonetheless
You dont need stability on the summoner
Honestly Id rather have special than deal with all the auto spam
Consistency>Range
Not if u consistent with a max range roll
If only the damn thing would drop…
Abyss defiant better
Special weapons are fun. Stop complaining. It's hard to practice sniping with no ammo
You’re either 400 pounds or a genuine virgin or maybe both
Try quick play or momentum, also if you are confident and a good player you almost always have special
You don't need to practice sniping its free in built aimbot even after the nerf.
Anyone arguing sniping takes skill in d2 is DELUSIONAL.
@@drscorpio1094 I'm not
@@fotis3v480 ...you must live in a different universe
This Game is unplayable if you do not want to play the Meta.. Bungie need to fucking nerf this shit into the ground
Conditional finality absolutely broken. It outranges chaperone with only meeting a body shot. It's crazy. Those who play against it constantly, are you thinking the same thing?
Jake you keep saying that “they changed how much special ammo we get” when it was a bug that was fixed so please stop saying this and misinforming the community.
Mate by fixing the bug they have effectively altered the economy, so yes he is 100% right to say that
Bro complaining about special is insane such a bot I can’t believe people like running around with sidearms using dumb shi like wormhusk and heal clip so much skill or just holding hands with auto rifles and team shooting takes no skill whatsoever such bot gameplay we need special ammo to combat certain play styles like rushing sidearms and smgs users and to make plays like 1v3 way more doable way more doable than trying to kill 3 people with just your primary by yourself
Or just play with your team and stop crutching on shotguns the whole game. It’s literally so easy to end up w 6 special shots if you just use ur primary. This weekend felt like we were getting TOO MUCH special ammo to a lot of ppl. Doesn’t work if you’re straight lining with a shotgun the whole match tho (It’s a good thing & bungie isn’t gonna change it)
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HOLY F*CK DUDE. I get there’s no new content for the game but yall really need a life 1851 is mad disappointing dawg.
Its literally his job but go off I guess. 😂
Isn’t funny how people cried and complain how snipers were so over powered and opressive than as soon as they limit the special ammo no one is sniping anymore?🤦🏽♂️🥱if it was so easy and so overpowered wouldn’t people still be doing it isn’t it just a free kill in the beginning of the round as y’all bots would say 😂💀this game isn’t the same without special just enforces team shooting boring gameplay no skill needed gameplay it’s sad and it’s the perfect gameplay for gernader jake slow bot gameplay