"It Will Collapse Society!" - Why The Modern World Makes No Sense | Sam Harris vs Konstantin Kisin
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- Опубліковано 9 вер 2024
- In this clip of *Impact Theory with Tom Bilyeu**, we're diving deep into a compelling discourse that many are hesitant to touch, featuring two intellectually heavyweight guests: **Sam Harris* and **Konstantin Kisin**. This conversation scrutinizes the multifaceted dynamics that threaten the very core of Western civilization as we know it.
*Sam Harris* opens with a powerful critique of how democracy, capitalism, and political freedom, while historically successful engines of wealth and creativity, are now under siege from ideological and religious movements exploiting our values of tolerance and self-criticism. He passionately argues against the insidious influence of stealth Islamist groups and the unsettling silence of the educated elite.
*Konstantin Kisin* expands on this by emphasizing the uniqueness of individual rights in the West. He contrasts it with the autocratic controls in Russia and China, shedding light on how incentive structures in free societies foster technological and cultural progress. They discuss the abandonment of core Western values, the rise of extreme DEI (Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion) ideologies, and the potentially dire consequences of unchecked immigration policies.
Together, they unpack the cultural and political psychosis gripping the West, revealing a dangerous path that could lead to societal collapse if not corrected. From the flaws in liberal democracy to the lure of authoritarian solutions amid escalating chaos, Harris and Kisin present a candid, thought-provoking narrative that challenges listeners to rethink the future of our society.
Join us as we explore these critical issues and seek answers that could redefine the course of Western civilization.
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I was born in the early 90s, thinking the world belonged to me and I would grow up happy and prosperous... the older I got, the more I realized how year by year, we as a society just kept eroding the very foundations on which Western society was built upon.
And I completely snapped when I realized that even amongst my friends, the majority do not understand these core principles. My friends LOVE DEI, because "those poor people have been oppressed, we need to help them"
They LOVE mass illegal immigration "No human is illegal, they are not causing problems, it's just racism and bla bla"
They LOVE whenever the government intervenes and gains more power "We need the government to step in, we need the government to do x y and z, we need the government to force people and companies to do a b and c"
These are Harvard, Oxford, Cambridge educated people I am talking about. The supposedly smartest people in this world I have found to be the most anti-Western, anti-democractic, anti-liberty, anti-free speech, anti-individual liberty in the world.
I have absolutely no hope for Western society, because all our elites in conjunction with the intellectual elite are systematically destroying every single element that our ancestors have killed each other over for THOUSANDS OF YEARS to solve.
I'm afraid you are right.
Yep! My naive, younger self dismissed oxbridge since I was not up for "wearing stripey blazers and boater hats". It's been an uncomfortable pleasure realising it was not such a naive decision. They are the bourgeois useful idiots and, in this sense, are no different from the rioters they condescend and deem fascist.
You lucked out being born at the tail end of the bloodiest century in human history.
Its a convenient fantasy that things used to be better than they are today.
What is the solution here when the same people are trying to go to war against Russia, China, North Korea, Iran ... etc?
Spot on. You are absolutely correct
If you can criticize one society/religion freely but not another with equal freedom and dignity, you are either deceiving yourself or living in 1984.
Wtf does that even mean?
If you can't freely criticize each religion independently of another religion. Your not being honest about that religion. You always end up with what about ism. You can talk about one religion with out always haveing to talk about another one. There are 4000 religions in the world. What about them
@@nimege it's amazing how nobody gets to say shit about Mohammed's people, but can say all the shit they like about Jesus's people.
What some people did not get about the four horsemen of athiesm was that they hated every single religion for the same things.
Oor islam is the motherload of bad ideas. By far, the worst religion still being practised.
@@povsepian How can you not understand what he meant by that? Its a single sentence and not a very complicated sentence.
A society that will not discriminate in favour of itself against all others is doomed.
Yes! That's what they missed.
100%. They raised a generation to hate itself and its nation. Unsustainable. Then bring in endless newcomers with a grudge and there is no future for a nation. Those people will want new founders with names that sound like their own.
@@gavinfoley103 A good parent gives their children enough freedom to develop, but not so much as to destroy themselves...
Bingo
1 day after Oct. 7th I first heard "Israel should not overreact!". No, "bad terrorist!", no "don't kill innocent kids!", only "bad Israel!"
And wow! 1 year before the US presidential elections? Way to insert yourselves literally everywhere, Palestinists.
Because Israel it was obvious was behind it
Presumably you were somewhere with a near total blackout of Western media then.
@@warwickdumas2573 and so the blackout continues... Will there ever be a real blaming of the ones who cause all the problems in the world? Or will we continue to blame the jews for everything? What a thriller, suspense, now you
@@Skyscraper21 Please do not conflate Israel with Jews. Opinion be whatever it is, we don't need to make stupid mistakes like that.
I have a lesson for you in Islamic Jurisprudence
Taqiyya is for Shia, Muda'rat is for Sunni.
They are both tactical deceit for the purpose of spreading Islam.
Kitman is deceit by omission
Tawriya is deceit by deliberate ambiguity
Daruna is the deceit through necessity (to engage in something haram to exploit non-muslims)
Taysir deceit through facilitation (I.e making things easier: telling a revert they can still drink alcohol until they are ready)
Muruna is flexibility or temporary suspension of Shariah, making Muslims appear moderate until numbers are high enough to enforce Shariah.
no way.... where did you get it from?
In other words, can’t believe a word they say.
Jews are the same. The Talmud teaches that it is permissible to lie to a non-Jew, for whatever reason. The Talmud also teaches that it is permissible to steal from a non-Jew.
Christians need to wake up to the stranger in our midst that hates us, and it is the Jews.
Didnt know there was dat many words for it wow, you learn something new every day, thanks!
@@Goldenfish-o5p Just know they can legally lie to you.
Obama built the cages Sam.
Read history.
@@orangewarm1 you mean like when the Washington Post accepted that he did? on October 23, 2020? by Nick Miroff?
or when the Center for Immigration Studies cited them as being built and funded in 2015? Who was president in 2015?
or when AOC "cried" behind the fence of an empty parking lot?
or DHS Secretary Jeh Johnson admitted to building them? Who was Jeh Johnson DHS secretary under?
or how the ACLU sued Obama to stop the process? (Michael Tan, Deputy Director, ACLU, August 10, 2015)
Read history, indeed. You sound boosted.
The Michael Jackson album? @@orangewarm1
And Citigroup chose Obama’s 2008 cabinet, the muslim brotherhood was allied with the US in Libya and Syria and Israel is violating every international law in existence.
Sam doesn't care about facts, none of the libs do, their ideology is based on wishful thinking and manifestation.
The world makes perfect sense. From the WEF perspective.
BINGO !!
Where does the happiness from owning nothing come in?
It also makes perfect sense from the antiseptic standpoint too
The answer Quota owns the Schools in America so they are teaching you. Enjoy your special life 😅
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Kids in cages started with Obama.
They keep saying "we" when it's entirely, 100%, no exceptions THE LEFT. Leftism is the disease that destroys everything in civilization, and it's their stated intention, if you look far enough, and into their base philosophies, namely Marxism, and all the bizzare people who have come from the deviant Left wing, like the people who invented their woke words and concepts, like multi gender theories, men can get pregnant, DEI, critical race theory, and their handbook "Rules for Radicals" where the most used rule is "accuse your opponant of what you're doing". They're morally bankrupt by intention, not just as a blindness or fault - the corruption and desire to destroy is intentional. Marxism's modern agenda is to destroy society, in order to build it back from scratch, yet they don't even have a plan for how they will do that, other than complete tyranny and control of every person's thoughts and actions, i.e. HELL.
Keep playing these stupid games
Your idol Obama put kids in cages, killed more people with drones and was in more wars. Pathetic that you don’t know these things. Try reading instead just watching msnbc.
It's an amazing how you can just say stupid shit on the internet, that you heard elsewhere on the internet, and spread it around like a diseased virus.
It works especially well on morons.
Gays can safely visit GAZA - the buildings are all less than one storey now.
Very naughty, therefore hilarious.
thats a logical fallacy argument
the reason Hamas is in charge of Palestine and not the secular PLO has alot to do with isarel
Oh snap!
😂
"We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men." -George Orwell.
I'm gay and I know many Palestinians wouldn't support me
100% of them want you dead.
Most of them buddy...
Yeah because maybe you bombed them for 70 years ?
@@BilangumusDid Gays bomb Palestinians? Rainbow bombers? Give me a break! Have you spent time in the Middle East? No, right?
Many?
So many Islamists criticizing Sam here
Nah former fan here read all his books strict ateist used his meditation app followed him from the start with Hitchens Dawkins etcetera who sees a guy who lost it in his Trump derangement syndrome and covid pushed him over the edge into nonsense really sad to see...😢 islamists are to be blamed for alot a crazy shit but most the comments here are from people like me...
Ad hominem...the last refuge of a mind devoid of argument.
@@eidanchris Can you name something that Sam has said that sounds like nonsense? I have been following him fo over a decade now and have seen no such indication.
If Sam made sense it would be more difficult to criticise him
@@michaelhowley1000 so you can't, got it!
Ok, I have been and remain very critical of Sam Harris, however, this first 3:33 with his opening statement is rock solid. Praise where praise is due.
Sam still with the “kids in cages” BS. Amazing. He’s lost his mind to TDS
Obama cages
There were kids in cages. It started under Obama.
Obama's cages
The fact you have created a term to shirk all criticism is some next level retardation.
TDS...Trump did actually try to steal the 2020 election and set his braindead fans to attack the capitol on January 6th, he openly says he will end democracy in America while comitting every crime and dictator trait in existence and you accuse his critics of TDS....................Did you go to school? Dropped on your head as a baby?
Does anyone remember what Sam said about the unvaccinated? And now he's interested in personal freedom?
The world has dropped him. So he’s trying to change his story to become relevant again
There was a literal pandemic where over a million Americans died.
Your personal freedoms stop at my health.
That hasn't changed for Harris or anyone else who is sane.
@@lrimunlmorin7947 good because we are most likely to die in traffic accidents so your freedom ends there and I want you to be banned from driving. /nutcase
@@lrimunlmorin7947perhaps you missed the memo: another’s choice to remain unjabbed does not threaten your health in any way, shape, or form. In other words, it is neither necessary nor desirable to deprive another’s exercise of their own freedom to make personal choices regarding their own health in order to tame your hysteria
@@lrimunlmorin7947I can’t believe that you people still hold on to this opinion after everything that’s happened. You would have ratted out Anne Frank.
Have you ever considered interviewing Whitney Webb?
PLEASE PLEASE interview Whitney Webb!!
He wouldn't dare to?
@@iwanagohome326 why not?
WW will not likely be a guest, ever. She's a journalist extrordinare and doesn't bow to the ruling class.
He'd be demonitized instantly
People can't buy a house nor barely put food on the table despite having 3 jobs yet 'our system works'.
it did until Sam's people won in 2020
I saved for 15 years to buy a house cash. I didn’t make allot so I had to live like a bum. I was about 9 months from hitting my goal when covid lockdowns started. Fast forward 5 years and it was only enough for a down payment and I lost five more years. Now I will never retire I’ll be in my 70’s when I own this house unless I can find a way to pay down the usury. And it’s not even an acre, I wouldn’t have even considered anything less than 3 acres in 2018. I got punished hard for saving my money while all my friends got their debt inflated away.
@@BattleGn0me You'll never get it.
@@Liam-zw1ek get what? you mean the TDS projection? Midwits like Sam predicting Trump doing things the left is already doing? If you're side promotes gun confiscation and shutting down free speech, maybe you're the baddies. cope.
@@Liam-zw1ek What I don't get is how people still fall for Sam's bullshit and their lack of self awareness.
My father was in border police.
He told me, the only thing what protects a border is fear.
It’s risk reward. Incentive vs disincentive. Biden increased incentives, especially for “asylum seekers”, and eliminated enforcement.
Liberals and Islam love story is so much ironic.
They're anything but liberal, you mean leftist; liberalism is a specific political philosophy based upon individual rights, a free-market, and rule of law.
@@rworded leftists refer to your definition of liberal as MAGA extremist 😮
@@secondsun7727 very true
Actually, liberals are funded and controlled by the group culturally associated with Isrwl .... which is even more ironic
Chickens for KFC...
This is another repost: This episode aired on May 28th 2024.
What's your point? I'm seeing it for the first time.
Yes, the episode aired, but I think it's a good idea to post shorter clips of it covering a specific subject.
It's a message worth hearing more than once
@@elizabethk3238 Most people appreciate knowing whether a repost is 3 months or 3 years old (as was posted last week).
Thank you I was looking for this comment. You have saved me time.
Born in the 1960s I have watched the emphasis going from individuality to individualism. Two very different concepts.
One is the acceptance that we are all different and contribute in different ways - the other is a focus on self irrespective of what we contribute.
I wonder if what we need in the West is to bring our working and rural classes back into the cultural conversation? Those who the liberal elites have denigrated, but still hold some of our oldest values.
I'll take an Amish Farmer as POTUS over a DC or California lawyer every single time.
Workers and rural people denigrates each other as well for plenty of reasons. It's a human thing. And since when is working class not allowed to take part in cultural conversation? I hear them all the time, and not necessarily with the humility and good-will one would expect.
Sam Harris has a big problem with religion - but theres one religion he hardly ever mentions because he knows it will end his career.
Career? The cringeworthy low IQ of Sam makes me effing upset!
And the other one is just gay, I'll give you that!
Really? Which one is that? Buddhism he has a lot of respect for and practiced for years
Judaism
Also because he himself is a member of the tribe.
Konstantin is so bright i got burned through my monitor
he's blazing for Israel, that's for sure! On fyah for Zion!
@@kidsteach938 You are part of the problem.
Racism, Xenophobia, and Colonialism made the world a better place. Europeans are 8 percent of world population, we face extinction from being so lenient.
And being invaded by an aggressive, anti-human, quasi-politico/religious movement !
European farming and inventions have enriched the non Euros immeasurably too. Only an eighth or so would exist without us. All while our numbers have gone down.
Oh look, a neo-Nazi
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How on earth have racism, Xenophobia and Colonialism made the world a better place!? What utter horsesh1t (and I HATE woke)
Glad you guys finally caught up. i've been saying it for 30 years.
Just because I'm no one of any importance, it doesn't mean I'm wrong. It just means my "voice" has limited range.
I appreciate Konstantin understanding and speaking a lot of truth, but interesting that a Jewish Russian born in the USSR knows so much that much of us older Americans didn't know......Ahhem. We've had a little too much help from a certain group here since WW2 (for one instance, Emmanual Cellar, a Jew who dedicated 4 decades to changing our immigration laws in the 60's, for just ONE example) . That's our main problem. Now they are experts--again. Okay. Why is it THEY always have the megaphones?
@@gailhill8391 "I appreciate Konstantin understanding and speaking a lot of truth, but interesting that a Jewish Russian born in the USSR knows so much that much of us older Americans didn't know......Ahhem"
Nah. Not really. I used to be a Socialist. Until I actually read the philosophy behind it. Then I realized it had a glaring flaw: It assumed the proletariat, when unburdened by lifes typical stressors of money and property, would become altruistic. And it creates a party enforcement system to root out anyone betraying those ideals.
What it didn't consider was someone could be uninterested in those things and just want to force people to do things against their will, and it inadvertently created the apparatus to do such a thing. Marx and Lenin were naive. And Konstantin saw the result of that first hand.
"We've had a little too much help from a certain group here since WW2 (for one instance, Emmanual Cellar, a Jew who dedicated 4 decades to changing our immigration laws in the 60's, for just ONE example) . That's our main problem. Now they are experts--again. Okay. Why is it THEY always have the megaphones?"
Oh...you're an anti-Semite.... Ugh, fine; you ever consider you have a confirmation bias?
Jews aren't magical rare pokemon index cards. There are some industries that the have a higher than normal concentration in (like banking and jewelry), but the reason you "see them everywhere" is because you just don't notice when you see other races. They're no more common than Italians or Greeks. Or Indians.
And the reason they're more common in banking is because of the amount of anti-semitism in other industries makes it harder to be a jew in quantity in those fields.
Fact of the matter is, when it comes to money, even the anti-semites will do business with Jews because their love of money outweighs their hatred of Jews.
Jesus.
@@occamsrazor1285 I don't hate anyone, but there are ideologies and ideas that I hate. And there are some ideas that I think the USA simply doesn't need so much of, such as all the things the Frankfurt School brought here after WW2. I guess I am privileged to have learned all the stuff 40 years ago that Konstantin is here lecturing me about. Yes, the younger generation--well half the country actually do need to hear his lectures, though many of us do not and have been fighting against all the insanity for decades. Jesus? Yes, there is a REASON why humans need him. I'm glad people told me about him 40 years ago. If those of the Frankfurt School and the Bolsheviks had not rejected Jesus Christ we never would have had the cold war nor WW2 nor tens of millions murdered by communists. But these types tend to think they are smarter than Christians.
@@gailhill8391 "I guess I am privileged to have learned all the stuff 40 years ago that Konstantin is here lecturing me about"
Then why are you sitting in the remedial class when you should be in a 400 series class?
"Jesus?"
I wasn't advocating for or against Jesus. That was an exclamation at my having to say what I did.
"But these types tend to think they are smarter than Christians."
I don't disagree that there is significant value to religion, but I think you're oversimplifying things more than a bit.
Socialism sounded good to ignorant peasants that were just fed up with the Czar. So much so that they were willing to give anything different a shot.
That should be the real lesson: the assumption is that when something isn't working, trying something new has a 1/3 chance of being better, and a 1/3 chance of just being different. That's not at all the case. It's nearly a 100% chance of being something worse because one has to completely rebuild a system of government from the ground up.
That process is never quick, and it's never bloodless, so don't do it unless you know what you're getting yourself into and you absolutely cannot fix the current one.
And no, Jews aren't secretly infiltrating political systems to usher in a global kabal of gentile subservience.
@@occamsrazor1285 "And no, Jews aren't secretly infiltrating political systems to usher in a global kabal of gentile subservience." What makes you so sure of that? How much do you understand about Judaism?
So many islamist and jihadists hate Sam Harris... This makes me understand that we should listen to this guy.
But listen carefully. He has had his own unhinged moments.
He's a total asshat tho
lol no
Is it hard to anger a jihadist ?
Richard Dawkins recently said he was a “cultural Christian” which is funny since it takes believing Christians to maintain that culture. It was a big step for Dawkins, I think. It was an indirect endorsement of Christianity over Islam. Some atheists are coming to the realization that their proselytizing has worked more for western Christians than immigrant Muslims. Atheists are defacto useful idiots of Islam.
Such an important discussion!!! Common sense over extreme nonsensical compassion.
??? misinformation by Sam is not important discussion, its called lies.
@@good2freelance1 Lol, okay. Says you. Not everyone see's the truth like YOU. Have a great week!
@@reneeREMichiganyea I've been following Sam Harris since 2017, heard hours and hours of him speaking and on podcasts, something genuinely changed with him after 2020 and he's been kind of a hypocrit and is OBSESSED with Trump, so I kind of disagree with ya.
@@TGravy-wp4rcI seriously can’t understand how people couldn’t see from the beginning that a person like Trump is the antithesis of what someone like Sam believes and stands for. If you were surprised you never really knew Sam from the beginning. Don’t try to make it seem like he changed when he’s mantained the same principles all this time.
@goodvibes-gy3jn Sam an authoritarian. If you can't see that you're willfully blind.
Sam’s mask fell off during Covid.
Now for your next trick....explain.
Absolute truth
@@NoflectioN
Nobody owes you an explanation. The fact that you command it without saying please and with such a rude tone says a lot about you.
The Jews of Israel are now responsible for approximately 200,000 Palestinians…how do feel about that Sam?
@@gaulishrealist Actual bot response.
Every video title on this channel is "THE WORLD IS ENDING" lol
I get what you are saying, but in his defense, the topics are addressing the pillars of society. Each pillar and topple the others or at least weaken them. If you look at Rome, you will find it fell for multiple reasons and its success was for multiple reasons.
Not the world, modern life.
fear mongering under the guise of mindful, intelligent discourse.
You realise it's a quote right?
Right 😅
“A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury.
From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years. These nations have progressed through this sequence: From bondage to spiritual faith;
From spiritual faith to great courage; From courage to liberty; From liberty to abundance; From abundance to selfishness; From selfishness to apathy; From apathy to dependence; From dependence back into bondage.” -Alexander Fraser Tytler
It’s the opposite today.the 1% creates the rules and the laws in their favor
And yet they can't vote for higher taxes on the millionaires and billionaires who are ever increasing in their millions and billions while their taxes are ever decreasing.
A doordash driver is making below minimum wage with zero benefits while destroying his own vehicle as the doordash CEO makes over $400 million in a year.
Boy those voters sure don't know what they're doing trying to get more largesse.
When have there ever been democracies (as we know them today) before modern western liberal democracys ? (with the exception of Athens participatory democracy around 500 bc)
I love this guy. I’ve listened to his podcast before, the English guy. He is right, but we are living in such a bizarre time right now. There was a trans person on a talk show. I can’t remember trying to tell everybody he’s just as biologically female as a biological female and he should be allowed to play any sport because sports are “human right” everybody in the audience was so confused and falling for this gaslighting. It was just crazy.
Sam will lie for the "greater good"
He just exchanged one religion for another.
So now you're getting his point, LoL.
Maybe, not.
yes, but it's just HIS definition of the "greater good" - which isn't even necessarily the greater good. Then there's the "greater good" for whom?
Compassion is what's killing us.
The term "toxic compassion" need to spread.
Hardly
Society is going to be fine. Just prep for the worst to the best of your ability and don;t stress out about it. Stress is far more likely to take you out than some collapse scenario.
Define "Fine". Lol
Optimism bias. Only the paranoid survive. Just look at the history of the 20th century and how many powerful, wealthy countries have fallen into chaos and mass atrocities.
So sit back and do nothing.
That works great....
@@SubjectiveFunny
“Prep for the worst”
Worst piece of advice.
Wow, the progress narrative runs deep with these two. Technology and capitalism are fine, in moderation, but not the way we've done it - genocide, slavery, the military-industrial complex. War is a rackett and so is social media/internet. Nope. Try again. Just because you're not the most evil man in the room doesn't mean you're good. We can do better. We must.
So, since we know all this and our political class is doing absolutely nothing about it, there are only two options:
1. They are so dumb and incompetent that they either do not understand or just don't know how to deal with the situation - well if they are incompetent they shouldn't be leading countries.
2. And this is way more nefarious, assuming they are not complete and utter idiots, this means they know exactly what is happening and they are letting it happen.
Now I'll leave it up to your interpretation what option 2 implies.
It's option 2. The great reset.
They want a genocide on the white population
@@snowflakemelter7171 For what ultimate purpose? Not to make money; point at a prosperous islamic society unsupported by oil riches?
Any trained law enforcement officer, even a beat cop can explain why you can not relinquish responsibility of a child to an adult without reasonable checks & safe measures that the adult is the parent or guardian & not likely to harm the child. Crossing is illegal by statute, the adult is legally detained, the child becomes the LEO’s responsibility. The system is not built for 100’s or even 10’s of thousands, hence “cages”, until the above is met.
I don't think people who are upset about innocent children dying in Palestine (universal humanity issue) have anything to do with xenophobia....
Why are you turning into such a prick @tombileuy ?
Some do
@@jonrotten31enough to create thumbnails for your videos and make it out that if you do take a stand for innocent casualties in the thousands, that you are associated with being a xenophobe or a 'leftie' as some would call them?
Take ur head out of your own ass and see the bigger picture
Some do, but there's nutters attach to every cause. The cause itself is just and the fact there's factions of j e w s on the side opposing also being labelled that tells me a lot.
This isn't so much a "debate" as it is a sequence of agreements.
growing up i remember virtue signalling was introduced to ppl via charities. now, after majority is conditioned to be virtuous, it is time for DEI. STEP1: be charitable, STEP2: be inclusive, STEP3: self-sacrifice (like in cults, too many examples to mention). Weak western world will fall and we will tell these fairy tales and legends to our grandkids that once there was a peace in the world and life was good, and how we got bored and started creating problems so we had talk about something, denying the simple fact that one day it will reach the breaking point (everything in this universe has a breaking point).
conclusion: human is designed for struggle and none of us needs peace. peace is for suckers and losers, as biden has said. brace yourself!
War is coming
Agree that we currently have: broken Ideology, broken Money, broken government, broken corporatetocracy, broken healthcare,
broken religions (we can go on and on) and “fixing” the Ideology would solve most of these eventually HOWEVER, in whereas “it is easier to fool a human than to convince a human they have been fooled” I contend that there would be less (Human) resistance if we approach the problems by “fixing the money” first. We all know that to find the core source of any problem one must “Follow the Money”, so if money were to become transparent, traceable and immutable, and the profits resulting from the co-opting and corruption of said “broken Ideology, croporatocracy, governments, healthcare systems, religions, education etc,” the hypocritical motivations for the propagation of these would be unmasked. It would be the equivalent of lifting the curtain behind which all these ideologies and systems hide and revealing their greed, corruption and hypocrisy.
IMHO this would be faster and more efficient than trying to “convince a human they have been fooled and their beliefs are “fugged-up”.
Agreed!
Yeah, I been saying that at the root of so many problems it's insane.
Most people think, investing in crypto is all about buying coins and leaving it to rise, common it takes much analysis to be a successful crypto trader.
Alex mascioli has truly set the standard for others to follow. We love him here and in the US because he has been such a help. This is what changed many live !!
I'm also surprised this name mentioned here again. Him really good with and on he job. Him helped a couple of families and individuals' finances
Alex skills convinced me to invest in XA186K and bitcoin, expecting 10x gains. Excited for listing
Hey Mr Frank, please I don't want to left behind
With the name of users✍️
It’s technically true someone can always sneak over a border but there’s a difference between an individual or two and 10,000 a week
One of the things you wont hear anyone mention is how by giving people from unmodernised cultures a new life in a modern culture you now have another person using resources from burnt fossil fuels who wasn't doing that before. Also by modernising ( as has been happening at an ever faster pace) those 3rd world countries you now have more people using burnt fossil fuels to the point where it is effecting the planets weather as the co2 and methane gases become so concentrated in the air and unable to escape quickly from the planet.
Is this another repost?
I think so?
Tolerance and Openism more like looking after vested interests and ignoring anything they don't want to acknowledge.
The whole idea is to get rid of discrimination- everyone is made equal. This is a fundamentally productive process. But are we replacing one form of discrimination for another. I was speaking to a recruiter recently and he has 3 jobs to fill but the employers said they needed females to fill quotas. He was frustrated because he has lots of men who could fill the roll but can’t find a woman to do it. These things are now another form of discrimination. Welcome to the future.
Konstantin Kisin COMPLETELY MISSED the 2 most important reasons for anti-Hebrew racism and anti-Judaism sentiments (Using these 2 seperate terms for the ethnic and religious components respectively, instead of the 1 bad term "Antisemitism" coined by an ignorant 18th century German, is much more factual and accurate). I see so many "smart" people repeating this fairly obvious mistake. What was elaborated about on successful minorities is completely SECONDARY this, in accordance to REALITY.
1.) Greco-Roman Paulinist Christianity (originally, there were other forms of Christianity, so again, being accurate on terms is important). It cultiviated a culture of replacement theology, depicting Jevvs as christ-killers, demonization of Jevvs for not converting, and much more. This started even before this version of Christianity gained power, as you can see in the writing of early Church fathers justifying the brutal ethnic cleansing and genocide they have suffered in the hands of the Romans.
Over time, this was infused in the culture, so that in the West, even when the society has become more secular, these influences still linger.
Note: Clearly there are plenty of Christians that are friendly and loving towards Jevvs, but that doesn't negate any of these facts.
2.) lsIam. With no need of repeating myself, it is somewhat different but similar to 1. Jevvs are repeatedly demonized in the lsIamic sources (Quran, Hadith,...). There is even the famous hadith about killing the Jevvs (guess what, Hamas had it in their charter). This is why the vast majority of MusIims holds such views.
Now, when you have 1 + 2, which you DO NOT have for other minorities, ONLY THEN you can explain the phenomenon. This is why Jevvs are targeted WAY MORE than any other "successful minority", and if you fail to realize this, you're willfully blind to reality and history
Queers for Palestine makes as much sense as Americans voting for Democrats or Republicans.. I don’t see what the big fuss is. They’re all supporting something that absolutely doesn’t have their best interest at heart.
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Right wing fascism..is still socialism. The lie put forward by revisionist, postmodernist historians, is that Hitler was "right wing"...and in comparison to our right wing. The nazi party was the right wing of the socialist movement....so yeah, to the right of communism, but to the left of our ideals of personal liberty and property rights.
LoL
Well, it was in the name: national socialism or short NAZI.
Hitler was a fascist that used socialism because it objectively made people's life better which got him more support. Socialism and dictatorship are two different things which is why you can have socialist democracy or ussr. Socialism and communism has always worked the problem had been the methods in which it was being achieved.
@@WhoToldYouThisfool. Socialism is always a dictatorship, national or international
I agree. Nazis are right wing lefties. They controlled capitalists
Religion using our values against us? It's as if he thinks religion is a person.
It's hard to believe he's still on this nonsense.
There's a special place in hell for people cutting up already released podcasts and putting them out as videos
LMAO😂
... (13:02) ... you can't say it any better than that ... "there's a difference between being a great civilization and selling trinkets on the ruins of that great civilization 2000 years later" ... ... ... 💙
No one takes Sam Harris seriously anymore
I do.
@@jeremymallender8820no one with an open, rational mind
@@foogentog brilliant, very persuasive
@@kennegishi3308 just a fact. Not meant to be persuasive. It’s a waste of time to try and persuade brainwashed fools.
@@foogentog in being open-minded and rational, do you recognize the casual ad hom? Just curious
Every knee will bow and every tongue will confess that Christ is King. Every man is equal, every woman is equal-none deserve a crown. We are but subjects in a Kingdom that we are starting to recognize.
there is no god 😎
@@shawnfromportland You sound pretty confident in that knowledge claim. How do you know?
Always enjoy listening to Sam Harris.
SH is a puke.
Sam Harris saying "Kids couldn't figure out who the bad guys were" is such an American simplistic view of the world. This is not a Marvel comic. It is way more complex than "good guys vs bad guys". To be honest, I think he understands this, he just seems to have an agenda obviously.
I miss when I respected Sam Harris.
Christ I thought Israel would be one topic Sam and Konstantin would agree on
Really? Is there something he said is wrong or you just have cognitive dissonance?
@@davidsalom8806Sam had the temerity of having an opinion that didn’t faun over the personality cult of Donald “do no wrong” Trump.
Sam totally ruined his own reputation over the covid stuff. He's right about islam but he comes off as such a grifter now.
The only thing that gives me hope for the future is that the right is so much more intelligent than the left, and is able to have intelligent conversations.
Intelligent conversations, that don't reach the audience that it would be most beneficial to. The target audience, that believes very strongly, that they are the enlightened, and they are unfortunately, the ones with the most influence.
This is the utmost in futility. How do we convince the illiberal, illogical (saints), that the (Nazis) have the best ideals, and methods for prosperity, and a successful life, and country?
Angry emotional mobs have massacred the intelligent since forever lil
The Maga lot are extremely intelligent 😅😅😅😅😅
@@johncarroll772
Intelligence in political rhetoric??
That is a tall order!
Ask a Kamala supporter what is one thing that they liked about her job, as vice president, there's nothing they can cite, as a rational example.
Ask a Trump supporter
one thing that they liked about his presidency, they will name several.
This isn't indicative of intelligence per se, but it does offer some insight, into the motivation of their political choice.
Being specific, at least indicates some objective consideration. Thinking about one's own motivations, and not having those told to you, is succinctly different than fealty, or deferential obligation.
There's a growing number of democrats, leaving the party, and many are supporting Trump. These are not people who are voting out of obligation to the party, or have not given a great deal of consideration to their pivot.
Does that, in any way indicate fealty, or obsequiousness? Is this indicative of lacking intelligence?
We can say whatever we choose about the candidates. However, do we try to understand what motivates the average partisan voter?
The intelligent person, will do more to understand, and even find some empathy towards them. And not jump to conclusions, or denigration of the whole "lot".
@@johncarroll772 there is a lot of the right that isn't a maga mob, but really worried about civilization
Sam, I’d be careful in generalizing about the left. We’re really talking about a more extreme wing of the left. The center left is on the right side of this argument. In fact, many of us are calling that smaller segment of the left out for being ignorant and idiotic on matters such as the Israel and Arabs “Palestinian” conflict as it pertains to Hamas as well as the Ukraine conflict as it pertains to knowing to who the real bad guy is in Putin.
It's not right, nor is it our job to police the world or make things or other places better
If we don't do it, who's going to? Russia? China? You want to give them the world?
We got dragged into 3 world wars because of the naive belief that we can just stay out of it. (The war of 1812 was part of the napoleonic wars and arguably the real WW1).
Someone has to keep world order. The British used to do that but they collapsed, now America has to do it or you'll see Russia and China steamroll their ways to levels of empire that make Rome or the British Empire look quaint.
Then the US needs to stop arming wars. We all know this is all just colonialism underneath all the bull shit.
Our leaders are still colonialists, they've just figured out how to do it 'legally'. When the Elites can no longer exploit poor people abroad, they turn on us.
It's not so simple. We have interests to protect. To surrender those would leave us open to lose dominance in all forms.
Arguably that's not totally true. What happens in the middle east can have a cascade effect across the entire world. And all other places
What happens in Ukraine for instance....
Breaking the thing that made us who we are...
Yes, common sense. Replace a culture and you have a different country. Real estate may be the same...but that is it.
Sam's religion is thinking hes always right and believing in govt.
This appears to be a repost…
I’d have to ask how their views Elon Musk and his discredited treatment globally had transpired
TDS destroyed Sam Harris.
Which is revealing in itself. Everybody can be ideologically captured. Woke is basically the world's newest and most fanatical 'religion'.
It's Maga who suffer from TDS
can we all just take a moment to appreciate how konstantin made a great choice of t-shirt to fit with the studio background/logo
I'm so sick of Sam Harris's OUTRIGHT LIES on the question of Israel.
You know you can just turn the channel.
@@joge2468 impressive that we finish a video that makes us upset. Means we are willing to consider
@@joge2468 It's not Sammy's channel. It belongs to Tommy Bilyeau.
@@markrussell4682 I don’t see how that’s relevant. If you’re sick of Sam Harris, watch something else. You have agency.
Sam does a great job of exposing the profound inconsistencies at the root of this far left ideology. I hope he is right ( but right now I doubt it) that eventually these people will be embarrassed by their own double standards, flawed logic etc. For therein the problem! This ‘movement’ thrives and promotes obvious flawed logic etc. For the latter, facts are OPTIONAL - on display only when and if they support their ideology. Otherwise, facts and logic are just another form of oppression.
Great conversation - Konstantin…brilliant as always.
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Sam jumped the shark with his TDS… he showed himself to be just as dogmatic and religious in his atheistic TDS convictions as the most fundamentalist person that he attacks
he exposed himself
destroyed himself
he is not to be taken seriously anymore.
A shame, a darned shame.
You Trump supporters are the ones with TDS: you have a deranged obsession with defending the Orange One against every legitimate criticism. Pro-TDS has all the hallmarks of fundamentalist religious thought. A shame, a darned shame.
We put laws on our books like a little under 1 million people are allowed in his country. Legally America does not even go by that law yet the president the house has Senate signed it years ago. We don’t even go by your own laws the people in charge.
Thats about 0.3% of your population.
NZ has been importing 100,000 for since 2008 election. Our population was 5.1 million in 2022 and 3.3 million when i left secondary (high) school in 1983.
Its caused all sorts of issues around housing . Labour got voted in 2017 (and out 2023) , one of its minor coalition partners NZ First (considered our most conservative party) promised to reduce it to 30,000 but never did because it was a minor party. NZ First is back in govt since 2023 with the previous National party that raised immigration.
Damn Tom…what happened?
I am also wondering. Disappointing ☹️
Tom does not challenge any of the wild statements made by "Sam Harris vs Konstantin Kisin". Qatar is not the top "funder" of US and UK universities, Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, The Wellcome Trust (UK-based), Michael Bloomberg are the top donars and all are less than 0.7%. So these two lie right out of the gate.
The most important conversation of our time. Thank you!
I had a dream that death was at the window and I dreamed I woke up from asleep and fell down dead then I woke up , I prayed and then I went back to sleep . I dreamed we were all on a ship America was all on a ship and it was an an empty vessel, everybody was trying to climb up the sides to get out, it scared me I woke up and I prayed, went back to sleep the next dream was I was house big two story house, other people were in it I don't know how, I heard a I stepped out on the porch and look up and they're in the sky the planes went I didn't see them crash I seen them go down, I looked over at the other houses on top and all the planes were going and all the planes were down I did not see them crash. Not long after that that AI problem happened and all the planes shut down. I think this is a warning to us , America is going down.
Even if so, it's not the end of the world. The quality of life will Fall in line to more of a global median but in the end it's really just cycles. You can still thrive regardless of the environment if you can figure out a way.
bro this country of the USA got rich from exploited labor and military....the idea of capitalism is slowly failing as we currently see, the average person isn't incentivized but more so exploited in this country for centuries...I think these guys are smart but miss the mark on some obvious points....
Ugh! Sam lost any respect i have
When was this recorded and why not post a link to it in it's entirety? FAIL.
Nice try, Sam Harris continues to be an absolute joke of a thinker.
Sam really needs to grow a pair and just tell the brutal truth, even it means he loses all his lefty liberal friends and they don't want to know him anymore. If that happens then what kind of friends were they anyway?
This is what having honesty means. That's what having integrity means. That's what bravery means.
He's currently spouting off right wing talking points from five years ago.
He's finally catching up to the status quo, but he's still too much of a coward to point out his side's complicity in it.
There is beauty in simplicity, and beauty will save the world. Economic progress and innovation is supposed to make life easier but ironically isn't making people happier.
Western society has a corrupted view of nature
Rubbish. Western Society does know its faults and impacts and is in the forefront of alivieating them !
We are each responsible for our own happiness. And I’d rather exercise that responsibility within a framework of freedom and choice, with food to eat and a roof over my head. Thank you, Western Civilization 🙏
@@michaelscholes8956 let me ask you, freedom is basically the opposite of jail right?
@@passiveaction that is certainly one kind of freedom, yes
It was the influence of Christianity and the Bible that founded the best of the West.
"Zionism is a threat to all of mankind... None of us are free until Palestine is free." - Vanessa Redgrave, 1978
Not true, I'm free as one can be
@@davidsalom8806 Are you a Zionist?
I have been wondering why I stopped receiving notifications from this channel. I guess I see why now. Yes, and I agree with Sam Harris.
He's a perfect example throughout covid that even though you are intelligent, you can still be ideologically captured. I've lost all respect for Sam.
I noticed when Sam gave us the body count of Oct 7th he wildy over exaggerated.
But when he mentioned Rotherham, he gave us a number that was 2/3rds low.
Interesting.
They do everything they can to make people paying attention hate them.
Congratulations Sam, goal achieved
Making excuses for the decline in the west of the standard of living by coming-airing how bad things are around the world is not a winning argument. When things go wrong, it’s best to backtrack to the fork in the road taken, and try the other path. But some people think we’re at the “end of history” which is absurd. History does not stop
I'm so done with Sam Harris.
Islamic lover?
Why?
So we had religion, more or less stable society. Dismantle religion, civilization falls apart. Huh.
The problem is that religion is a fairy tale
Is that true though? This is the problem with this discourse. What you just said is not true at all.
@@jambononi I'm guessing you weren't alive during the 70s and 80s
Obama setup the cages Sam, 😂
"YOU HAVE LET YOUR DOOM IN THE FRONT DOOR! But it will not depart that way." ~ some wizard.
Poor Sam. Remember when he was actually intellectually honest and interesting?
You didn't find this clip interesting? I think he has some pretty valuable insights to share.
Personally I find he still is.
At 5 min - the reason our (western system works bla bla bla) implys China with no freedom doesnt work . But thats not true Chinas economy is growing exceptionally fast - They were only independent after WWII . At absolute most thats 70 years . Theyve nearly caught up to usa economically which was created in 1776 thats 270 yrs !!.
Sure china doesnt have freedoms but that hasnt been their goal - survival was . Of the 800k or so raised from poverty in world capitalist supporters quote was mostly chinas. They will need address these freedom issues soon once theyre out of poverty level they once were in , and it will depend on culture or the army reaction when they do it.
Execelent show! Amazing subject.
Cmon Tom. I'd love to hear the full discussion. Leave the links to the full episode and if it hasn't come out yet tell us when. Jesus, man sell the discussion for once.
I can't like nor defend anyone who excuses the current genocide in Gaza (for ideological or tribal reasons)
A hundred kids were killed yesterday by your friends ffs.
Who gives a shit what you defend or excuse?
Go to Gaza if you care so much, hypocrite.
There is no genocide in Gaza, the hundred "kids" later changed to 40 civilians then it turned out at least 20were Hamas terrorists possibility more, how come all these most horrible incidents Israel is supposed to be guilty of never seem to be true?
The most surprising part about this interview is anyone whatsoever cares or seeks the opinion of Sam Harris.
Why make a comment about him then
@@johncarroll772
Cus the video was suggested to me so I came to comment, by the way I didn't watch nor planning to watch anything, terminally TDS Harris has to say, guy is a clown at best
For various reasons I can't stand the way Sam looks and talks, plus he's apart of the new left think tank, smh!
Sam sees how dangerous the woke left and Islamism is and points out their inconsistencies. Yet he sees no irony or inconsistency in holding these beliefs while still refusing to back Trump and go on and on about how bad Trump is. Sam has some great points on many topics, but it's all undermined by his Trump derangement syndrome, which makes him unable to see the issues with his own logic.
Dollops of BS
It's amazing how logical and coherent Sam is right up until he approaches anything having to do with Trump.