Love the honesty. I’ve had a very similar journey, vey similar. That old Hound of Heaven is relentless. Give him an inch and he’ll take you a mile … and much, much more. Praise be to God. 🙏 🙏 ☺️
@@michaelanderson7715 Dear Michael, because I’d hit rock bottom (again!) but this time, and from a very humbled heart, I asked God for help. I don’t know why, but God decided that I should experience what is beyond this time and space and also that He has been with me the whole time. The change in me and my life since then has been amazing and ongoing. I now believe that God’s existence is not something that you can know (all knowledge is provisional, anyway), but is something you experience and grow from. I sincerely hope you remember these words next time you hit rock bottom … and know that He is waiting. God bless. 🙏
@@meganneale2074 "Dear Michael, because I’d hit rock bottom (again!) but this time, and from a very humbled heart, I asked God for help. I don’t know why, but God decided that I should experience what is beyond this time and space and also that He has been with me the whole time. The change in me and my life since then has been amazing and ongoing. I now believe that God’s existence is not something that you can know (all knowledge is provisional, anyway), but is something you experience and grow from. I sincerely hope you remember these words next time you hit rock bottom … and know that He is waiting. God bless." - personal anecdotes are not evidence, this is pathetic waffle
Think we can all relate to other people’s conversion. I was the same ,not looking for God,until I was drawn irresistibly to Jesus Christ . Not understanding and having a primary school level of education regarding biblical revelation the journey began. It wasn’t long before ( I really knew it from the start),that salvation was all the work of God. R C Sproul and Charles Spurgeon led me to the reformed understanding of biblical truth and countless others have all given me great strength in trying to glorify God in my Christian walk.
@@chrismachin2166 "It wasn’t long before ( I really knew it from the start),that salvation was all the work of God" - define 'god' - how do you know it was its work?
I love that he said he felt he was being dragged. We are being *dragged* into the kingdom of God, because we're the fish. Like the story in the book of John the 21st chapter, when there where 7 disciples that caught and *dragged* 153 fishes on that day. We are the fish that is being dragged into to the kingdom.
@@aut0mat1c11 "it's not a matter of "I think" it's more on the matter that I'm programmed to believe." 1. I'm using 'think' in the ACCURATE, STRICT sense of 'having the mental process leading to this conclusion'. NOT think in the casual sense of 'having a vague hunch'. 2. a) Explain what you mean by 'programmed to believe' b) You confirm you DO think a god exists, so why?
@@michaelanderson7715 I'm programmed to believe, meaning it was not my choice to believe God, it was God's arbitrary choice that I believe. Why do I think I believe in God? Well, I heard the gospel being preached by Paul Washer once, and from then on I believe. Mind you, nobody convinced me to believe in God, it just happened, I've been watching Christian apologetic videos, William Lane Craig, Ravi Zacharias, and John Lenox, but none of them preached the gospel, they never made me closer to God. So, God is my Father, and I don't question whether or not my Father exists you know? I know I have a Father. Just something instinctual? I think that's the right word. Instinctual. I can't convince you to believe that God is your Father anymore than you can't convince me that my Father don't exist.
Are we SURE that "Christianity" didn't just impose itself over previous religious structures? I dig Kingsnorth and all, but have to roll my eyes at the notion that either "Christianity" rightly stories the Way of Yeshua The Galilean or than Paganism is some...new thing, as opposed to "Christianity." Sophia and Her Holy Logos. Blessed Be.
In light of The Information That is Given (such as, "In the beginning was God, and the Word was ~with~ God......and the Spirit moved across the water", *~prior~* to *anything* having been ~created~, yeah; denying that Immortal trinity constitutes a 'scriptural heresy'. Others' mileage may, of course, vary......
"What is His Name, and what is the Name of His Son - surely you know!" Proverbs 30:4 (trinity proof in 1vs- Isaiah48:16) Key word: Denying. So rejecting even though they KNOW well. Then Yes! Absolutely! as it is denies Jesus' unique identity as LORD God(John 8:24)! The more you learn about the Godhead(Biblical terminology)/ the Holy Trinity, the more you see how terrible of a heresy it is & how it poisons someone's understanding of the Gospel of God. Denying the Trinity means to not Honor the Son as you Honor the Father - John 5. May God give us Grace to understand His Holy Word and reveal to us His Perfect nature through & by Bible alone. In kindness & in love, I say to any oneness reading, the "jesus" you currently follow cannot save for it is not the True Jesus of the Bible, who is truly the Co-equal & Co-eternal Creator of all worthy of all Praise and Glory forever (along with Father and Spirit of course). From this heretic view, there is no God becoming fully man; no LORD becoming Sinless Suffering Servant. No Good Shepherd forsaken/"crushed" in place of sinner by the Holy Wrath of God. No behold, Lamb of God who takes the sin of the world just like God promised in OT. E.g. Isaiah 53, Ps 22, Micah 5:2, Zech ch10 & ch12 etc etc.
A question for anyone who thinks God works this way. Why would God go out of his way to send all these people to this man, but then allows 20,000 children to die every day of preventable diseases? It sounds like god’s priorities need some recalibration.
I don't necessarily think God "goes out of His way" (lol) to send ~these~ people to ~this~ man.....I read where He said, "My sheep hear My voice", so, it sounds like your Creator has that part covered, through His variety of means. What does that imply to ~you~ about everybody else (ie 'non-sheep', who do *not* hear His voice)? Perhaps God's 'priorities' include random lives/expectations for the vast majority who are not already named in that other Book. How would ~you~ know, or know otherwise? Another thing God must certainly know better than you or I is how many of that statistical 20k children you brought up died in their sleep of measles/smallpox/whatever.....three or four years before they would've been gang-raped to death in their country's endless 'civil wars'? Or been forced to do atrocities in their country's latest adolescent militia, hack up the clan up the road when the political winds change? You and I have no idea what life any/all of those Statistical Kids either Avoided, or Missed Out On. Don't you have any better stuff to judge your Creator for than *that* ?! When ~you're~ the one who can't read hearts, tell the future, or have that pre-arranged List? If you don't, I'd suggest watching the classic R. Scott allegory 'Blade Runner'. Pay attention to what the created beings are upset with their Maker about, and why.....then consider why your own Complaint (the dead-child stat above), and others like it, were the furthest thing from the created being's mind~~~once he ~was~ in the presence of his creator. Hope that helps.... Surveying the world's resources and logistics shows that Childhood Starvation/Disease is a ~human~ failure; not a Creator failure, anyway; God supplied enough for Everyone, and appointed His top ~creatures~ to produce, distribute, and enjoy it......and you're blaming your Maker for the result of humans being their apparently greedy, power-hungry selves? That results in Un-Necessary Preventable Deaths of Children? Next, you'll start complaing about tsunamis.....volcanos......
If they're preventable, then maybe the question we should be asking is "what can I do about it?" The problem of evil isn't all that complicated - I just need to look in the mirror.
@@_______- Exactly right! That;s why it's worth a Reply when people rush to lay blame on a Deity they're mad at....for things that are ~human~ failures. The mirror you invoke allows us to regard the ~real~ culprits in the world's affairs.....
Just like Peterson said on the debate with Susan Blackmore, your belief or disbelief in God has very little on how God is acting on you, she didn't like it because it's true.
Einstein said something like, " the most important decision an individual makes is whether the universe cares or doesn't care about you." so, it does not matter if God exists. what matters is if you behave as if He does. every decision and thought will be filtered through that lens.
That is simply incorrect. Many of us are non-resistant nonbelievers. I wish Christianity were true, I just haven’t found it to be so based on the evidence and my personal experience of being a Christian minister for 15 years.
Exactly!!! God exist weather you choose to believe or choose not to. The truth of it remains even when one remains ignorant and arrogant of the fact. Cheers brother
Churches are control systems. The Creator is all we need. Why do we need "institutions?" We don't. Wicca isn't good but neither are most of the "churches"
He said he was "helplessly pulled" (which is an external effect; not anything he did himself). Your surmise that Christianity is something people arrive at through either 'emotion' or through their own deductions based on 'evidence' is erroneous. No one 'becomes a Christian' through their own efforts. God's FM/TM 'Handbook' even claims that we're all dead people, walking around with hearts of stone; that "No one seeks God", and that "the wisdom of God is ~foolishness~ to those who are perishing".... You make it sound as though you think God 'dispenses His mercy on those who are smart, or 'good' lol, or clever/susceptible to 'evidence' enough to "change their ~own~ life to that of a Christian/Pilgrim in the World". That's a belief atheists share with so-called 'Free-Will Baptists': both groups are convinced that "God didn't ~save~ me; I figured it out (or 'emoted it up', per your 2nd option) *~myself~* !!". People want to think they're the Star of their own story; not a random, unworthy Mercy-recipient dragged by their Maker to Salvation. People are funny that way........
@@AnarchoPunkChad That's poor evidence because it cannot be established that they are independent of the Gospels. Also they are more evidence of there being Christians which nobody disputes.
@@AnarchoPunkChad Paul's Christ Jesus and Philo's Divine Word are the same imagined OT Character. Image of God (2 Cor. 4:4, Phili. 2:6), Agent of Creation (Rom. 11:36, 1 Cor. 8:6) Philo: THE SPECIAL LAWS, I "XVI ...Now the image of God is the Word, by which all the world was made..." Celestial High Priest (Heb. 2:17, 4:14), God's Word (Heb. 1:3, 11:3), Firstborn son (Rom. 8:29) Philo: ON DREAMS, THAT THEY ARE GOD-SENT "XXXVII ...the high priest is the Divine Word, his own firstborn son." Spiritual Kinship/Angel of God (Rom. 8:29, Gal. 4:5-7, :14, Heb. 1:4) Philo: ON THE CONFUSION OF TONGUES "XI ...In reference to which I admire those who say, “We are all one man’s sons, we are men of Peace,” (Gen. 42:11) because of their well-adapted agreement; since how, I should say, could you, O excellent men, avoid being grieved at war, and delighted in peace, being the sons of one and the same father, and he not mortal but immortal, the man of God, who being the reason of the everlasting God, is of necessity himself also immortal?" "XXVIII ...And even if there be not as yet any one who is worthy to be called a son of God, nevertheless let him labour earnestly to be adorned according to his first-born word, the eldest of his angels, as the great archangel of many names; for he is called, the authority, and the name of God, and the Word, and man according to God’s image, and he who sees Israel. For which reason I was induced a little while ago to praise the principles of those who said, “We are all one man’s Sons.” (Gen. 42:11) For even if we are not yet suitable to be called the sons of God, still we may deserve to be called the children of his eternal image, of his most sacred word; for the image of God is his most ancient word...." Note: Gal. 1:19 "but I did not see any other apostle except James the LORD's brother." This could be a cultic title (like Peter/Cephas which means "Rock" could have been, or an idiom) rather than being a biological relation? Paul constantly refers to those "in Christ" as brothers/sisters in a spiritual family. Good Shepherd (Heb. 13:20) Philo: ON THE CHANGE OF NAMES "XIX ...for they have abandoned all connections with pride, and having connected themselves with lawful persuasion, choosing to become a portion of the sacred flock, of which the divine word is the leader, as his name shows, for it signifies the pastoral care of God." "XX But while he is taking care of his own flock, all kinds of good things are given all at once to those of the sheep who are obedient, and who do not resist his will; and in the Psalms we find a song in these words, “The Lord is my shepherd, therefore shall I lack Nothing;” (psa. 23:1) therefore the mind which has had the royal shepherd, the divine word, for its instructor,..." Purification/Forgiveness of Sins/Glorification (1 Cor. 6:11, 2 Cor. 3:18, 4:6) Philo: ON THE LIFE OF MOSES, II "XXVI Such then are the figurative meanings which he desires to indicate by the sacred vestments of the high priest;... ...namely the logeum, being also an emblem of that reason which holds together and regulates the universe. For it was indispensable that the man who was consecrated to the Father of the world, should have as a paraclete, his son, the being most perfect in all virtue, to procure forgiveness of sins, and a supply of unlimited blessings;..." Tested (Heb. 2:18) A Man (Rom. 5:15-19, 1 Cor. 15:45-49) Philo: ON DREAMS, THAT THEY ARE GOD-SENT Book I "XXXIX ...For when the sacred word has purified us with the sprinklings prepared beforehand for purification, and when it has adorned us with the select reasonings of true philosophy, and, having led us to that man who has stood the test, has made us genuine, and conspicuous, and shining,..." Sits Beside God (Heb. 8:1) Philo: ABOUT NOT MOVING LANDMARKS "XXXVIII... I say, should such men triumph in and insult the misfortunes of others, having no respect for justice, the ruler (Note: justice/ruler) of human life, who sits by the side of the great Ruler of the universe, who surveys all things with sleepless and most piercing eyes, and sees what is in recesses as clearly as if it was in the pure sunlight?" The Word is a Covenant (1 Cor. 11:25, 2 Cor. 3:4-6) Philo: ON DREAMS, THAT THEY ARE GOD-SENT Book II "XXXIII ...God, says that he is about to erect firmly his covenant full of grace (and that means his law and his word) in the soul of the just man as on a solid foundation, which shall be an image in the likeness of God, when he says to Noah, “I will establish my covenant with Thee.” (Gen. 9:11) And besides this, he also indicates two other things, one that justice is in no respect different from the covenant of God (Note: justice/covenant), the other that other beings bestow gifts which are different from the persons who receive them;... XXXVI Since then all steadiness, and stability, and the abiding for ever in the same place unchangeably and immovably, is first of all seen in the living God, and next in the word of the living God, which he has called his covenant;..." Sacrificial Blood (Heb. 12:24) Philo: WHO IS THE HEIR OF DIVINE THINGS "XXXVIII ...Now, the craters of the sense of seeing are the eyes, those of hearing are the ears, those of smelling are the nostrils, and so on with the appropriate receptacles for each of the senses. On these craters the sacred word pours a portion of blood, thinking it right that the irrational part of us should become endowed with soul and vitality, and should in some manner become rational; following the guidance of admonition, and purifying itself from the deceitful alluring powers of the objects of the outward sense which aim to overcome it." Intermediary Agent to Mortals (Rom. 8:34, Gal. 3:19-20, Heb. 12:24) Philo: ON DREAMS, THAT THEY ARE GOD-SENT Book I "XII ...who never abandons his faith in God and his invisible comprehension of him, but who keeps to the intermediate divine word, which affords him the best suggestions, and teaches him everything which is suitable to the times. For God, not condescending to come down to the external senses, sends his own words or angels for the sake of giving assistance to those who love virtue. But they attend like physicians to the disease of the soul, and apply themselves to heal them, offering sacred recommendations like sacred laws, and inviting men to practice the duties inculcated by them, and, like the trainers of wrestlers, implanting in their pupils strength, and power, and irresistible vigour. Very properly, therefore, when he has arrived at the external sense, he is represented no longer as meeting God, but only the divine word,..." Empties (Kenosis) Himself (Phili. 2:7-8) Philo: Who is The Heir To Divine Things "XLI ...but in real fact for the whole world which was created by divine wisdom may be consecrated and dedicated, being made a burnt offering of early in the morning and also in the evening. For such a life as this becomes the world, namely, continually and without ceasing to be giving thanks to its Father and Creator, so as to stop short of nothing but evaporating and reducing itself into its original element, in order to show that it stores up and conceals nothing, but dedicates itself wholly as a pious offering to God who created it." Born of a Woman/Under the Law (Gal. 4:4b), Wisdom of God (1 Cor. 1:24b) Philo: ON FLIGHT AND FINDING "XX ...For we say that the high priest (Jos. 20:1-6) is not a man, but is the Word of God, who has not only no participation in intentional errors, but none even in those which are involuntary. For Moses says that he cannot be defiled neither in respect of his father, that is, the mind, nor his mother, that is, the external sense; "He shall not go where there is a dead body; he shall not defile himself even for his father or mother." (Lev. 21:11) because, I imagine, he has received imperishable and wholly pure parents, God being his father, who is also the father of all things, and Wisdom being his mother, by means of whom the universe arrived at creation (Prov. 3:19-20, 8:22-31); and also because he is anointed with oil, by which I mean that the principal part of him is illuminated with a light like the beams of the sun, so as to be thought worthy to be clothed with garments. And the most ancient Word of the living God is clothed with the word (Law) as with a garment, for it has put on earth, and water, and air, and fire, and the things which proceed from those elements. ...Nor will he “rend his clothes;” (Lev. 21:10) for the Word of the living God being the bond of every thing, as has been said before, holds all things together, and binds all the parts, and prevents them from being loosened or separated." Philo: A Treatise Concerning The World "II ...But the eternal law of the everlasting God is the strong and lasting support of the universe. This law being extended from the centre of the world to its furthest extremities, and again back from its extremities to the centre, moves on in the unwearied irresistible course of nature, uniting and binding together all the parts of the universe. For the Father who established it made it to be the indissoluble bond of the universe. Therefore we are naturally led to conclude that the whole earth will not be dissolved by water, which its bosoms contain; nor again will fire be extinguished by the air, nor again will the air be burnt up and consumed by fire, since the divine law has placed itself as a boundary to keep all these elements distinct from one another."
@@fabiosplendido9536if there is no God, each person is his own Boss, has his own morality, has no one bigger than him or herself. Has no one with the authority to say, "That's just wrong." And humans without the will to power, the sheep, will make humans into gods to fill the power vacuum. Worked for Pharoes, Caesars, Atillas, Emporers, Hitler, Mao, Stalin for a while.Putin, , Kim Jung Ill, Kim Jung Un, etc.
This guys explanation of why he converted is boils down to to peer pressure. If he happened to be in a non Christian area he probably would become Islam or something else.
@@sunnybonnell409 I'm not a Calvinists, those guys believe that people are predestinated for hell, no, people are ordained for hell, the sheep are predestinated in the image of Christ. Predestination is only for believers.
Nah. Wicca has no proper lineage with the ancient pagans. It was created by ex-Christian’s imbibed with Christian culture and tropes even if they didn’t want or know it.
Even if it is older than muslimism and Christianism, it still isn't as old as Jewism, if Jewism is merely worshiping the one true God before Christ paid the price of sin.
@@__-tn6hw Yeah, Judaism unfortunately has become everything but that. The one's who still live by those words are the Neturei Karta. The rest, to the extent of my experience, started a special affair with all that is material in this world.
@@LordJagd From the evidence I have come across (which includes confirmed records described in the Bible) the idea that the Hebrew people were worshiping multiple gods before ever encountering God is false. I have come across the idea that there were many gods and that YHWH originated from a pantheon, however I cannot find any sources or evidence that backs this.
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Love the honesty. I’ve had a very similar journey, vey similar. That old Hound of Heaven is relentless. Give him an inch and he’ll take you a mile … and much, much more. Praise be to God. 🙏 🙏 ☺️
Why do you think a god exists?
@@michaelanderson7715 Dear Michael, because I’d hit rock bottom (again!) but this time, and from a very humbled heart, I asked God for help. I don’t know why, but God decided that I should experience what is beyond this time and space and also that He has been with me the whole time. The change in me and my life since then has been amazing and ongoing. I now believe that God’s existence is not something that you can know (all knowledge is provisional, anyway), but is something you experience and grow from. I sincerely hope you remember these words next time you hit rock bottom … and know that He is waiting. God bless. 🙏
@@meganneale2074 "Dear Michael, because I’d hit rock bottom (again!) but this time, and from a very humbled heart, I asked God for help. I don’t know why, but God decided that I should experience what is beyond this time and space and also that He has been with me the whole time. The change in me and my life since then has been amazing and ongoing. I now believe that God’s existence is not something that you can know (all knowledge is provisional, anyway), but is something you experience and grow from. I sincerely hope you remember these words next time you hit rock bottom … and know that He is waiting. God bless."
- personal anecdotes are not evidence, this is pathetic waffle
Think we can all relate to other people’s conversion. I was the same ,not looking for God,until I was drawn irresistibly to Jesus Christ . Not understanding and having a primary school level of education regarding biblical revelation the journey began. It wasn’t long before ( I really knew it from the start),that salvation was all the work of God. R C Sproul and Charles Spurgeon led me to the reformed understanding of biblical truth and countless others have all given me great strength in trying to glorify God in my Christian walk.
@@chrismachin2166 "It wasn’t long before ( I really knew it from the start),that salvation was all the work of God"
- define 'god'
- how do you know it was its work?
The irresistible grace consisted not of choosing or wanting, but of being incapable of resisting God call.
Why do you think a god exists?
@@michaelanderson7715 Because he make is dwelling in me.
@@michelhaineault6654 "Because he make is dwelling in me."
- the response of a 3 year old
@@michaelanderson7715 it's the response of God to those WHO BELIEVE .
@@michelhaineault6654 Personal anecdotes aren't evidence, they're pathetic appeals.
What Paul says about Wicca and the New Age is 100% correct. But there is a difference between Christianity and Churchianity.
I love that he said he felt he was being dragged. We are being *dragged* into the kingdom of God, because we're the fish. Like the story in the book of John the 21st chapter, when there where 7 disciples that caught and *dragged* 153 fishes on that day. We are the fish that is being dragged into to the kingdom.
Why do you think a god exists?
@@michaelanderson7715 it's not a matter of "I think" it's more on the matter that I'm programmed to believe.
@@aut0mat1c11 "it's not a matter of "I think" it's more on the matter that I'm programmed to believe."
1. I'm using 'think' in the ACCURATE, STRICT sense of 'having the mental process leading to this conclusion'. NOT think in the casual sense of 'having a vague hunch'.
2. a) Explain what you mean by 'programmed to believe'
b) You confirm you DO think a god exists, so why?
@@michaelanderson7715 I'm programmed to believe, meaning it was not my choice to believe God, it was God's arbitrary choice that I believe.
Why do I think I believe in God? Well, I heard the gospel being preached by Paul Washer once, and from then on I believe. Mind you, nobody convinced me to believe in God, it just happened, I've been watching Christian apologetic videos, William Lane Craig, Ravi Zacharias, and John Lenox, but none of them preached the gospel, they never made me closer to God. So, God is my Father, and I don't question whether or not my Father exists you know? I know I have a Father. Just something instinctual? I think that's the right word. Instinctual.
I can't convince you to believe that God is your Father anymore than you can't convince me that my Father don't exist.
@@aut0mat1c11 In other words, FAITH; 'belief without evidence'. A pathetic mindset.
Wicca as a" Christian Heresy" . Is being polite. This is a family show .
Religion is religion , being religious has its own meaning. Sounds like someone will get right with himself and then …. Well… Glory to God Hallelujah
Are we SURE that "Christianity" didn't just impose itself over previous religious structures? I dig Kingsnorth and all, but have to roll my eyes at the notion that either "Christianity" rightly stories the Way of Yeshua The Galilean or than Paganism is some...new thing, as opposed to "Christianity." Sophia and Her Holy Logos. Blessed Be.
Is it heresy to deny the Trinity?
In light of The Information That is Given (such as, "In the beginning was God, and the Word was ~with~ God......and the Spirit moved across the water", *~prior~* to *anything* having been ~created~, yeah; denying that Immortal trinity constitutes a 'scriptural heresy'. Others' mileage may, of course, vary......
Yeah
YES
"What is His Name, and what is the Name of His Son - surely you know!" Proverbs 30:4 (trinity proof in 1vs- Isaiah48:16)
Key word: Denying. So rejecting even though they KNOW well. Then Yes! Absolutely! as it is denies Jesus' unique identity as LORD God(John 8:24)! The more you learn about the Godhead(Biblical terminology)/ the Holy Trinity, the more you see how terrible of a heresy it is & how it poisons someone's understanding of the Gospel of God. Denying the Trinity means to not Honor the Son as you Honor the Father - John 5.
May God give us Grace to understand His Holy Word and reveal to us His Perfect nature through & by Bible alone.
In kindness & in love, I say to any oneness reading, the "jesus" you currently follow cannot save for it is not the True Jesus of the Bible, who is truly the Co-equal & Co-eternal Creator of all worthy of all Praise and Glory forever (along with Father and Spirit of course). From this heretic view, there is no God becoming fully man; no LORD becoming Sinless Suffering Servant. No Good Shepherd forsaken/"crushed" in place of sinner by the Holy Wrath of God. No behold, Lamb of God who takes the sin of the world just like God promised in OT. E.g. Isaiah 53, Ps 22, Micah 5:2, Zech ch10 & ch12 etc etc.
A question for anyone who thinks God works this way. Why would God go out of his way to send all these people to this man, but then allows 20,000 children to die every day of preventable diseases? It sounds like god’s priorities need some recalibration.
I don't necessarily think God "goes out of His way" (lol) to send ~these~ people to ~this~ man.....I read where He said, "My sheep hear My voice", so, it sounds like your Creator has that part covered, through His variety of means. What does that imply to ~you~ about everybody else (ie 'non-sheep', who do *not* hear His voice)? Perhaps God's 'priorities' include random lives/expectations for the vast majority who are not already named in that other Book. How would ~you~ know, or know otherwise?
Another thing God must certainly know better than you or I is how many of that statistical 20k children you brought up died in their sleep of measles/smallpox/whatever.....three or four years before they would've been gang-raped to death in their country's endless 'civil wars'? Or been forced to do atrocities in their country's latest adolescent militia, hack up the clan up the road when the political winds change? You and I have no idea what life any/all of those Statistical Kids either Avoided, or Missed Out On.
Don't you have any better stuff to judge your Creator for than *that* ?! When ~you're~ the one who can't read hearts, tell the future, or have that pre-arranged List? If you don't, I'd suggest watching the classic R. Scott allegory 'Blade Runner'. Pay attention to what the created beings are upset with their Maker about, and why.....then consider why your own Complaint (the dead-child stat above), and others like it, were the furthest thing from the created being's mind~~~once he ~was~ in the presence of his creator. Hope that helps....
Surveying the world's resources and logistics shows that Childhood Starvation/Disease is a ~human~ failure; not a Creator failure, anyway; God supplied enough for Everyone, and appointed His top ~creatures~ to produce, distribute, and enjoy it......and you're blaming your Maker for the result of humans being their apparently greedy, power-hungry selves? That results in Un-Necessary Preventable Deaths of Children? Next, you'll start complaing about tsunamis.....volcanos......
@@hippiekarl7I don’t believe in God and even if I did, your god sounds like an asshole ✌🏼
If they're preventable, then maybe the question we should be asking is "what can I do about it?"
The problem of evil isn't all that complicated - I just need to look in the mirror.
@@_______- Exactly right! That;s why it's worth a Reply when people rush to lay blame on a Deity they're mad at....for things that are ~human~ failures. The mirror you invoke allows us to regard the ~real~ culprits in the world's affairs.....
The church needs to win the culture war, the debates at speakers corner and invest more in evangelism. The street is lost.
The Church won 1990 years ago 🙏🏼🙏🏼
Just like Peterson said on the debate with Susan Blackmore, your belief or disbelief in God has very little on how God is acting on you, she didn't like it because it's true.
Reminds me of these old lyrics:
I do not sing what I believe
I only give them fact
If they believe quite otherwise
It still will have impact
That logic is so circular it has to be true.
Einstein said something like, " the most important decision an individual makes is whether the universe cares or doesn't care about you."
so, it does not matter if God exists. what matters is if you behave as if He does.
every decision and thought will be filtered through that lens.
That is simply incorrect. Many of us are non-resistant nonbelievers. I wish Christianity were true, I just haven’t found it to be so based on the evidence and my personal experience of being a Christian minister for 15 years.
@@teachpeace3750 God bless you my friend
Beliefs should never be chosen. Just like you can't choose to believe the earth is a trapezoid, you shouldn't be able to choose a god exists
Unless there is a need for it that has some benefit for self or society?
Exactly!!! God exist weather you choose to believe or choose not to. The truth of it remains even when one remains ignorant and arrogant of the fact. Cheers brother
@@myoung48281 no, if there was some benefit for believing the earth was a trapezoid, would you be capable of choosing to believe that it is?
@@michaelcjt9 agreed. It is not a choice, we are convinced or unconvinced based on our education and evidence
Churches are control systems. The Creator is all we need. Why do we need "institutions?" We don't. Wicca isn't good but neither are most of the "churches"
Oh I love heresies. I’m a heretic myself!
Christianity is half-pagan power-serving and herd ego feeding mess of sects.
How I became a Christian based on emotions rather than evidence.
It's the power of the Holy Dopamine Ghost.
He said he was "helplessly pulled" (which is an external effect; not anything he did himself). Your surmise that Christianity is something people arrive at through either 'emotion' or through their own deductions based on 'evidence' is erroneous. No one 'becomes a Christian' through their own efforts. God's FM/TM 'Handbook' even claims that we're all dead people, walking around with hearts of stone; that "No one seeks God", and that "the wisdom of God is ~foolishness~ to those who are perishing"....
You make it sound as though you think God 'dispenses His mercy on those who are smart, or 'good' lol, or clever/susceptible to 'evidence' enough to "change their ~own~ life to that of a Christian/Pilgrim in the World". That's a belief atheists share with so-called 'Free-Will Baptists': both groups are convinced that "God didn't ~save~ me; I figured it out (or 'emoted it up', per your 2nd option) *~myself~* !!".
People want to think they're the Star of their own story; not a random, unworthy Mercy-recipient dragged by their Maker to Salvation. People are funny that way........
@@AnarchoPunkChad So people come to Christianity by way of evidence?
@@AnarchoPunkChad That's poor evidence because it cannot be established that they are independent of the Gospels. Also they are more evidence of there being Christians which nobody disputes.
@@AnarchoPunkChad Paul's Christ Jesus and Philo's Divine Word are the same imagined OT Character.
Image of God (2 Cor. 4:4, Phili. 2:6), Agent of Creation (Rom. 11:36, 1 Cor. 8:6)
Philo: THE SPECIAL LAWS, I
"XVI ...Now the image of God is the Word, by which all the world was made..."
Celestial High Priest (Heb. 2:17, 4:14), God's Word (Heb. 1:3, 11:3), Firstborn son (Rom. 8:29)
Philo: ON DREAMS, THAT THEY ARE GOD-SENT
"XXXVII ...the high priest is the Divine Word, his own firstborn son."
Spiritual Kinship/Angel of God (Rom. 8:29, Gal. 4:5-7, :14, Heb. 1:4)
Philo: ON THE CONFUSION OF TONGUES
"XI ...In reference to which I admire those who say, “We are all one man’s sons, we are men of Peace,” (Gen. 42:11) because of their well-adapted agreement; since how, I should say, could you, O excellent men, avoid being grieved at war, and delighted in peace, being the sons of one and the same father, and he not mortal but immortal, the man of God, who being the reason of the everlasting God, is of necessity himself also immortal?"
"XXVIII ...And even if there be not as yet any one who is worthy to be called a son of God, nevertheless let him labour earnestly to be adorned according to his first-born word, the eldest of his angels, as the great archangel of many names; for he is called, the authority, and the name of God, and the Word, and man according to God’s image, and he who sees Israel. For which reason I was induced a little while ago to praise the principles of those who said, “We are all one man’s Sons.” (Gen. 42:11) For even if we are not yet suitable to be called the sons of God, still we may deserve to be called the children of his eternal image, of his most sacred word; for the image of God is his most ancient word...."
Note: Gal. 1:19 "but I did not see any other apostle except James the LORD's brother." This could be a cultic title (like Peter/Cephas which means "Rock" could have been, or an idiom) rather than being a biological relation? Paul constantly refers to those "in Christ" as brothers/sisters in a spiritual family.
Good Shepherd (Heb. 13:20)
Philo: ON THE CHANGE OF NAMES
"XIX ...for they have abandoned all connections with pride, and having connected themselves with lawful persuasion, choosing to become a portion of the sacred flock, of which the divine word is the leader, as his name shows, for it signifies the pastoral care of God."
"XX But while he is taking care of his own flock, all kinds of good things are given all at once to those of the sheep who are obedient, and who do not resist his will; and in the Psalms we find a song in these words, “The Lord is my shepherd, therefore shall I lack Nothing;” (psa. 23:1) therefore the mind which has had the royal shepherd, the divine word, for its instructor,..."
Purification/Forgiveness of Sins/Glorification (1 Cor. 6:11, 2 Cor. 3:18, 4:6)
Philo: ON THE LIFE OF MOSES, II
"XXVI Such then are the figurative meanings which he desires to indicate by the sacred vestments of the high priest;... ...namely the logeum, being also an emblem of that reason which holds together and regulates the universe. For it was indispensable that the man who was consecrated to the Father of the world, should have as a paraclete, his son, the being most perfect in all virtue, to procure forgiveness of sins, and a supply of unlimited blessings;..."
Tested (Heb. 2:18) A Man (Rom. 5:15-19, 1 Cor. 15:45-49)
Philo: ON DREAMS, THAT THEY ARE GOD-SENT Book I
"XXXIX ...For when the sacred word has purified us with the sprinklings prepared beforehand for purification, and when it has adorned us with the select reasonings of true philosophy, and, having led us to that man who has stood the test, has made us genuine, and conspicuous, and shining,..."
Sits Beside God (Heb. 8:1)
Philo: ABOUT NOT MOVING LANDMARKS
"XXXVIII... I say, should such men triumph in and insult the misfortunes of others, having no respect for justice, the ruler (Note: justice/ruler) of human life, who sits by the side of the great Ruler of the universe, who surveys all things with sleepless and most piercing eyes, and sees what is in recesses as clearly as if it was in the pure sunlight?"
The Word is a Covenant (1 Cor. 11:25, 2 Cor. 3:4-6)
Philo: ON DREAMS, THAT THEY ARE GOD-SENT Book II
"XXXIII ...God, says that he is about to erect firmly his covenant full of grace (and that means his law and his word) in the soul of the just man as on a solid foundation, which shall be an image in the likeness of God, when he says to Noah, “I will establish my covenant with Thee.” (Gen. 9:11) And besides this, he also indicates two other things, one that justice is in no respect different from the covenant of God (Note: justice/covenant), the other that other beings bestow gifts which are different from the persons who receive them;... XXXVI Since then all steadiness, and stability, and the abiding for ever in the same place unchangeably and immovably, is first of all seen in the living God, and next in the word of the living God, which he has called his covenant;..."
Sacrificial Blood (Heb. 12:24)
Philo: WHO IS THE HEIR OF DIVINE THINGS
"XXXVIII ...Now, the craters of the sense of seeing are the eyes, those of hearing are the ears, those of smelling are the nostrils, and so on with the appropriate receptacles for each of the senses. On these craters the sacred word pours a portion of blood, thinking it right that the irrational part of us should become endowed with soul and vitality, and should in some manner become rational; following the guidance of admonition, and purifying itself from the deceitful alluring powers of the objects of the outward sense which aim to overcome it."
Intermediary Agent to Mortals (Rom. 8:34, Gal. 3:19-20, Heb. 12:24)
Philo: ON DREAMS, THAT THEY ARE GOD-SENT Book I
"XII ...who never abandons his faith in God and his invisible comprehension of him, but who keeps to the intermediate divine word, which affords him the best suggestions, and teaches him everything which is suitable to the times. For God, not condescending to come down to the external senses, sends his own words or angels for the sake of giving assistance to those who love virtue. But they attend like physicians to the disease of the soul, and apply themselves to heal them, offering sacred recommendations like sacred laws, and inviting men to practice the duties inculcated by them, and, like the trainers of wrestlers, implanting in their pupils strength, and power, and irresistible vigour. Very properly, therefore, when he has arrived at the external sense, he is represented no longer as meeting God, but only the divine word,..."
Empties (Kenosis) Himself (Phili. 2:7-8)
Philo: Who is The Heir To Divine Things
"XLI ...but in real fact for the whole world which was created by divine wisdom may be consecrated and dedicated, being made a burnt offering of early in the morning and also in the evening. For such a life as this becomes the world, namely, continually and without ceasing to be giving thanks to its Father and Creator, so as to stop short of nothing but evaporating and reducing itself into its original element, in order to show that it stores up and conceals nothing, but dedicates itself wholly as a pious offering to God who created it."
Born of a Woman/Under the Law (Gal. 4:4b), Wisdom of God (1 Cor. 1:24b)
Philo: ON FLIGHT AND FINDING
"XX ...For we say that the high priest (Jos. 20:1-6) is not a man, but is the Word of God, who has not only no participation in intentional errors, but none even in those which are involuntary. For Moses says that he cannot be defiled neither in respect of his father, that is, the mind, nor his mother, that is, the external sense; "He shall not go where there is a dead body; he shall not defile himself even for his father or mother." (Lev. 21:11) because, I imagine, he has received imperishable and wholly pure parents, God being his father, who is also the father of all things, and Wisdom being his mother, by means of whom the universe arrived at creation (Prov. 3:19-20, 8:22-31); and also because he is anointed with oil, by which I mean that the principal part of him is illuminated with a light like the beams of the sun, so as to be thought worthy to be clothed with garments. And the most ancient Word of the living God is clothed with the word (Law) as with a garment, for it has put on earth, and water, and air, and fire, and the things which proceed from those elements. ...Nor will he “rend his clothes;” (Lev. 21:10) for the Word of the living God being the bond of every thing, as has been said before, holds all things together, and binds all the parts, and prevents them from being loosened or separated."
Philo: A Treatise Concerning The World
"II ...But the eternal law of the everlasting God is the strong and lasting support of the universe. This law being extended from the centre of the world to its furthest extremities, and again back from its extremities to the centre, moves on in the unwearied irresistible course of nature, uniting and binding together all the parts of the universe. For the Father who established it made it to be the indissoluble bond of the universe. Therefore we are naturally led to conclude that the whole earth will not be dissolved by water, which its bosoms contain; nor again will fire be extinguished by the air, nor again will the air be burnt up and consumed by fire, since the divine law has placed itself as a boundary to keep all these elements distinct from one another."
Fairytale for adults !
Indeed, pathetic, credulous sheep.
I don't think so.
I think it's a fairytale for children.
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The most dumb fanatic believers are adults.
@@fabiosplendido9536if there is no God, each person is his own Boss, has his own morality, has no one bigger than him or herself. Has no one with the authority to say, "That's just wrong."
And humans without the will to power, the sheep, will make humans into gods to fill the power vacuum. Worked for Pharoes, Caesars, Atillas, Emporers, Hitler, Mao, Stalin for a while.Putin, , Kim Jung Ill, Kim Jung Un, etc.
This guys explanation of why he converted is boils down to to peer pressure. If he happened to be in a non Christian area he probably would become Islam or something else.
That guy was at the right place at the right time, we are just chess pieces, not the chess player which is God.
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Tell that to a Muslim and he will say the same thing about his God.
@@johnhammond6423 his God is nothing but a tree
@@aut0mat1c11 Sounds like what a Calvinist would say.
@@sunnybonnell409 I'm not a Calvinists, those guys believe that people are predestinated for hell, no, people are ordained for hell, the sheep are predestinated in the image of Christ. Predestination is only for believers.
both pagan religions.
Wicca is Christian heresy? Mate, if anything Christian is Wiccan heresy, as Wicca is basically Paganism which is way older than Christianism.
Nah. Wicca has no proper lineage with the ancient pagans. It was created by ex-Christian’s imbibed with Christian culture and tropes even if they didn’t want or know it.
Even if it is older than muslimism and Christianism, it still isn't as old as Jewism, if Jewism is merely worshiping the one true God before Christ paid the price of sin.
The ancient Israelites were worshipping multiple gods long before their monotheistic reform (which was probably due to Zoroastrian influence)
@@__-tn6hw Yeah, Judaism unfortunately has become everything but that. The one's who still live by those words are the Neturei Karta. The rest, to the extent of my experience, started a special affair with all that is material in this world.
@@LordJagd From the evidence I have come across (which includes confirmed records described in the Bible) the idea that the Hebrew people were worshiping multiple gods before ever encountering God is false. I have come across the idea that there were many gods and that YHWH originated from a pantheon, however I cannot find any sources or evidence that backs this.