@@quentin1307 a coach from Penn State who sexually abused and raped over 50 young boys. Also, Karl Malone "infamously" impregnated a 13 year old when he was 20
I agree with this 💯. Jimmy is just a very unselfish player, but a complete player. If his role is to just hound the best player on defense that given night, that's what he will do. Man just wants to win games, casuals don't see that.
@@TheGhostofMrArthurs Yes, and you clearly targeted your comment towards This video and the comment you responded to NOT whomever had a bad take on Twitter.
0:26 #1 LeBron James 1:13 #2 Kevin Durant 1:44 #3 Michael Jordan 2:29 #4 Chris Paul 3:10 #5 Kevin Garnett 3:54 #6 Larry Bird 4:41 #7 Steph Curry 5:28 #8 Robert Parish 6:08 #9 Dirk Nowitzski 6:54 #10 Paul Pierce 7:41 #11 Reggie Miller [best shooter ever before Ray Allen] 8:15 #12 Julius Erving [most beloved player] 8:59 #13 Kobe Bryant [overrated & a legend at the same time] 9:47 #14 Clyde Drexler [MJ-lite] 10:26 #15 Giannis Antetonkumpo [or Kawaii Leonard] 11:12 #16 John Stockton (“Mr Assist) 11:58 #17 Shawn Kemp [got fat] 12:25 #18 Joe Dumar [steady and clutch] 12:52 #19 Tiny Archibald [pre & post-achillies tear] 13:25 #20 Larry Nance (Dunker) 13:51 #21 Michael Finley [good] 14:17 #22 Truck 🛻 Robinson 14:43 #23 Alex English 15:10 #24 Kyle Lowry [Terry Porter] 15:39 #25 Mark Price [scrappy] 16:07 #26 Vladi Divac [🇷🇺] 16:32 #27 Denis Rodman [Rebounder] 17:05 #28 Tony Parker [🇫🇷, big 3] 17:37 #29 Dennis Johnson [Defender] 18:11 #30 Jimmy Butler [does a good job]
"Overrated and a legend at the same time." That sums up Kobe perfectly. Definitely a legend, but some people want to put him near (or even above) MJ, which is insane to me. There seems to be a certain level of idolization that causes people to rank him higher than they should. The tragedy of his early death probably feeds into that even further.
Nah, his death has little to do with that, Kobe was well overhyped during his career. After he won back to back without Shaq, people constantly considered him #2. LeBron had to win 4 fucking MVPs and God tier finals performances for people to realize that Kobe just wasn't on that exact level of greatness as him and MJ. He figuratively took the torch from MJ after he retired for many people, so he was seen as the 2nd iteration of MJ, even though he never quite lived up to that height (honestly who could?).
@Fries he was a great defender in his prime years (2000-2007) but after that, most of his defensive accolades were basically just given to him without actual regard for performance. i’d say he had 2 or 3 truly great defensive seasons and the rest were sorta overrated.
@@jamesburgess2k It helped that Kobe was a Laker. Give him that career on the Timberwolves and I don't think anybody says Kobe was near MJ. Which is an objectively wrong thing to say.
@@recoil53 you must have not been around when he was in the peak of his career, the Jordan comparisons were everywhere. If LeBron never came around at the end of Kobe's prime, it would've been a lot more noticeable
One of the big reasons Dr. J's stats dropped is because he was playing with a prime Moses and Maurice Cheeks. On any given night, he would do whatever the team needed to win. For example, in Game 1 of the finals vs the Lakers, he put up ridiculous number of 20 points, 10 rebounds, 7 assists, 5 blocks and two steals. That's an incredible stat line and showed what he was capable of. If he was on a weaker team, he would have scored way more. Everyone's stats go down when they play along better players. The Dream Team is a great example, where Barkley led the team with 18 ppg.
Also Dr. J's numbers dipped in 77-79 because he was playing with another big time scorer George McGinnis. He was absolutely snubbed from 1st Team all defense many years in his time in ABA and some All-Defensive selections in the NBA (maybe a couple more 1st teams but mostly 2nd teams) 3 straight MVPs, another one later on. 2x Finals MVP. 3x Scoring Champion, and to this day one of the best wing defenders of all time. 3/6 Finals Record (50%) He for me is a top 5 player as he dominated both leagues and could do everything.
I love doctor j, but top 5? Who are u even replacing him with in the top 10? Best I can do is top 15, literally all of the top 10 guys have more rings, more accolades, and better numbers. Dr j is still great tho
@@TransparentEclipse, better than Bird. People like to say the ABA was trash, but then you look at the teams and players and it was literally stealing the best talents. There's interviews and player statements on this as well. But Dr. J has the same amount of rings and Finals MVPs as Bird. However Dr. J was the much better playoff performer. The much better defender. And I would argue scorer as Dr. J has a higher career ppg average, and more scoring titles. He also has over 30,000+ points which is impressive. And on top of this, Dr. J also has 3 straight MVPs and then another one in '81. There's no argument for Bird over Dr. J, even impact wise. I'd even argue he's better than Kareem since Kareem got carried by Magic and Worthy for many rings. And Dr. J was the much better Finals performer as his best Finals he averaged almost 38pts, 14 rebounds, 5 assists, and his defensive stats like Kareem were not recorded, though his regular season that year defensively was great. Kareem in his best Finals series, had less than 27pts, 18 rebounds, and 2 assists. Peak wise, Dr. J was better and he has a stacked resume. To act like he's top 15 is absurd.
@@splitsecond8356 ok, I’m not even gonna criticize ur take, ur entitled to ur opinion, and I respect it. I would be curious tho what ur top 10 players of all time list is? Most ppl have kareem at minimum a top 5 player all time, so where do u have dr j, at 4 or 3 or somewhere? When u said top 5 I assumed 5 but if u think he’s better than kareem it’s higher no? Would be super curious to see ur top 10 list, I promise I won’t judge it, I’m just genuinely interested, since it seems it’s radically different from most standard lists. I personally have dr j at 14th all time, but I’m excited to see where u place him and others. Totally open to changing my opinion
@@TransparentEclipse, I'll say this and then I'll give you my ranking with some brief explanations to not take up too much of your time. So, in boxing (for the most part) they rank fighters based off of level of competition. Ali is looked at as one of, if not the best because he played in and dominated the strongest Heavyweight era of all time, really only being rivaled by the 90s. Now boxing is an individual sport of course, by I personally use that as my main metric along with players being the 1st option, 2nd option, etc. Those are my two biggest factors because it really does show how good a player is. It also means more if you dominated in a stronger era than a weaker era. But here's my top 10... In order: Jordan, Kobe, Dr. J, Hakeem, Duncan, Bird, Magic, Shaq, Kareem, and Lebron. No Wilt and Russell because when some of their best players like Dolph Schayes went to the hall of fame by averaging 16 points on his best season and being an ok facilitator, it really shows how bad that era was. 10, Lebron. Only started to win a weak Eastern Conference, when he joined 2 other Hall of Famers. All again in a very weak East. Then in Cleveland I still think it was a weak East, but he at least played good in the Finals so I don't hold too much against him there. Against the Heat in 2020, the Heat were missing 2 out of there top 3 best players for a good chunk of that series, and Jimmy outplayed Lebron for most of that series. I don't really hold Lebron high for the most part because of the context around his achievements, but his Finals appearances in Cleveland are impressive. So Kareem at 9 because the 70s were bad till 76-77 in the NBA, the ABA had much better talent, with the only exception being Bob Macadoo who was actually really good. Kareem missed the playoffs twice in 75 and 76, and played a lot worse in the Finals and Playoffs than his regular season. When he got Magic he then started making the playoffs, and he Magic was playing a lot better. So Kareem played in a weak era for most of his career, and only started winning till he he became a 2nd option. Career wise, his resume is really good, however, if we only look at one's career than Bob Cousy is bordering top 20 because of his resume, which isn't at all the case. At 8 I have Shaq. Shaq played in the 2000s West during his prime, and that was the strongest West even to this day. Though Shaq didn't spend a ton of time there. 3 of the best Finals performances of all-time, unlike Kareem. He also was the best player on at least 2 of those championship runs. Was great on every level besides shooting. Shaq is actually better than Kareem I would say, maybe not total success wise, but I've already been over why that metric can be overblown. 7 would then be Magic. Magic lead the Lakers to many championships, was decent on the defensive end but not great. Was at least a good scorer, and arguably the best facilitator. Besides in '84, he was great in the playoffs and in the Finals. I personally think though Magic and Shaq are interchangeable. 6 I would have Bird. Bird played in the East which was the strongest Eastern conference even to this day, and was much harder to make it out of the playoffs than what the West was. Bird had less success than Magic, but wasn't that far off. I do think he is overrated in the playoffs, however, he was always great in the Finals. As well as the regular season. The better defender and scorer than Magic. And was always the first option. 5 is Duncan. Duncan could be higher, however, his peak wasn't very long and wasn't as insane as some of the players peaks that is later on the list. I think Duncan is the 2nd best defender of all time, and was good in every other category. Played in the strongest west, also dominated in it but much longer than Shaq. 4, I have Hakeem. Unlike everyone I've mentioned so far, besides maybe Bird with all the 80s Small Forwards, Hakeem dominated in the 2nd best Western conference, I group the 00s and 10s together, as well as the strongest era of big man of all time. You had Robinson, Shaq, Ewing, Mourning, Mutumbo, Daugherty, etc. All with no official All-stars on his team till after he started winning championships. As well as pre 90s with Sampson but that was very short. Hakeem did a lot with much less than what Duncan had, Bird had, Magic had, etc. And I would argue is the greatest defender of all time. He played a lot better in the Finals and playoffs than what he did in the regular season which is very rare. He also statistically had the hardest playoff/championship run of all time in '95 and averaged 33pts, 11 rebounds, 5 assists, 2blks, and 2stls. He was absolutely crazy one of the best Finals performances ever. Could be higher, however, it's hard to not ignore the fact that he did not play in the strongest West of all time. 3 is Dr. J. He played his best years in the ABA where he was a top tier defender and scorer. He won 3 scoring titles, 1 All-Defensive 1st team, however, when you look at the stats and impact Dr. J should've won it at least 5 more times for first team. Dr. J also played well in all forms of the game as I explained earlier. And in the NBA should've won another chip in '77 however, his team was playing a lot of selfish ball which cost them the chip. Should've won maybe another 1st team all-defensive selection in 77 and potentially 78. But 79 onwards should be more like 2nd team and lower. And Dr. J ended his career in the 80s east which is the strongest east period. 2, Kobe. Same thing as Duncan however had a longer and better prime. Was inefficient, however all those stats can be attributed to era where the pace was slower and teams as a whole had lower efficiencies. Kobe was a great scorer, and defender. Never really had a great Finals MVP though. So you can hold that to him. And I do think Kobe could be ranked lower, I won't only just look at the positives for Kobe. Kobe did also play in the strongest West as well, so there's that to consider too. 1. Jordan, pretty much Bird on absolute steroids. The best scorer of all time, averaging the highest career ppg, being top 5 in career points, and having the most scoring titles of all-time. But was also a top tier defender. Also played in the strongest East 80s - 90s and dominated. His finals competition was really good unlike this weird rising opinion that it was bad, ua-cam.com/video/Zg-d9VBuBvI/v-deo.html
@@TransparentEclipse, sorry that comment was so long, I tried to make it as brief as possible. Included brief explanations too, so that you can at least attempt to understand my thought process. Though I do have more reasonings for placements, just didn't want to take up too much of your time. You did mention "most people" a bit in your comment, I don't really care about what a popular opinion is for rankings, because it's just an appeal to popularity. Not saying that's the case every time, but I avoid saying because of that fact. I also wanted to mention, I also factor in achievements as well in my metric system it's just not number 1 like how most people have it. I also factor in performances and play throughout the whole game, as well as offensive and defensive abilities. So don't just think I'm talking about era/competition and one's option choice on the team (1st option, 2nd option, etc.)
I want to end the KG in San Antonio debate. KG wouldn't have won nearly as many as Duncan because he was a shitty teammate. The reason the Spurs were contenders for 20 seasons was because Duncan was willing to accept a smaller role in favor of getting wins and letting teammates flourish
Nonsense. Duncan was a Top 10 All time player who had hall of fame teammates and one of the best coaches of the modern era. KG was a top 30 or so all time player who had Anthony Peeler and Wally Szczerbiak. I agree that KG probably wins fewer than 5 titles if he's in Duncan's shoes, but Duncan does not win a single ring in Minnesota. Nobody in NBA history could have won with those teams.
@Fries Duncan's help is definitely overstated, his individual brilliance was by far the biggest factor in all of their titles except 2014. That being said, it's not even an argument that he was in a better situation than KG in Minnesota, it would be crazy to suggest otherwise.
I’m not huge into sports like many in the comments but I really do enjoy the channels that combine the humor and such. And Barry’s channel is one of those whom videos and humor I really enjoy listening to. Great stuff as usual.
you're honestly the funniest NBA content creator as well as the most insightful and best. I hope you continue making more videos like these. my personal favourite was the "curry MVP virgin" as it was so funny. 99% of that video I was literally in tears of laughter. keep doing those types of videos (maybe RUSS RING VIRGIN) etc :)
@Fries I agree but the best player in that particular finals series was Bron. Regardless of who won. He literally made it a competitive series and without him it would’ve been a sweep by 20+ points per game fr
I’ve recently commented a few weeks ago that Barry should make a video doing the best second round pick of every nba draft, but this was an excellent list regardless ❤️ Also, Barry a funny-ass dude!
He could be trying to be taken a little more seriously. Thing is, he is knowledgeable on the sports, but is known by most as just a troll. There is a middle ground, and I think he might be looking for that. Like the man said above me, that hate can get to just about any man.
You should do a best 2nd round picks of all time video. The only surefire ones I can think of are Jokic and Ginobili, so I’d love to see some more examples
@@vaclevsta magic had a 13 year career which he won 5 rings, 3x MVP, 70% win percentage, 10,000+ career assists (only 3 others to do so), 11x all star, 10x all nba Bird is a 3x champ, 3x MVP, 12x all star, 24ppg 10rpg 6apg career averages, 9x all nba first team
@@veloxacre5265 Those are incredible resumes, but they still don't stack up to the likes of MJ and LeBron, who each have more Finals MVP's and regular season MVP's than those 2, more all NBA appearances, and better counting stats/efficiency across the board. And both were far superior defensively to either Magic/Bird.
I agree with positions 3 through 8, but MJ and Lebron really have separated themselves and stand alone at 1 and 2. It's very hard to argue (convincingly) for anyone other than them in the top 2 spots. But I could see 3 through 8 being almost interchangeable
@Fries probably the steals as the rules have changed so much to favor offense. Potentially the assists record could be broken, again due to the rules changing to favor offense
It’s probably a mix of his own experience/memories of watching these guys, with thorough research into stats (I think basketball reference allows you to sort/search by best statistical measures per career, season, and game) and takes from the overall NBA fanbase and community to back his claims. Dude puts in some work for these vids, that’s for sure
Great video, only really disagree with the second pick. Bill Russell is definitely over KD i my book, he's a Mount Rushmoure player(4th behind MJ, Lebron and Kareem in that order) i think they are the only 4 who have a strong argument for being the GOAT.
I don’t agree but def respect the opinion. I see Russell in a similar light to Brady (admittedly I respect Russell more than Brady), they both won a crap-load of titles on stacked teams where it wasn’t up to them to win, as much as it was up to them to not screw the pooch. Russell is a legit atg, but i don’t think he’d be as remembered if he didn’t play for the celtics for the time that he did, as he likely doesn’t win the absurd amount of rings he did on another team (tbf KD doesn’t win his 2 rings if he didn’t join the Ws, so 6 of 1 i guess). Idk but i think KD, individually, is a better player, scorer, and superstar than Russell ever was, though that may just be recency bias
Coming back after Steph won his first finals mvp to hear what you said. Have to agree with the list but also with what you said about Steph. I expect a little hate being a warriors fan, and as much as I love the championships I really didn't like how we got them.
thank you for puttin some respect on paul pierces name. people really talk like he was some bench player in the 2000s. it always baffled me how he was so unathletic but able to create shots for himself on a consistent basis.
Pierce got plenty of love during his career, and most media/former players continue to say good things about him. The only hate came from his stint as a commentator, when he was justifiably roasted for some of his bad takes [like every other commentator].
Wow I actually had the exact same list, and honestly I don’t think you can change all that much without saying some really wild stuff, would be interested to see if anyone else did come up with a different list though.
Saying MJ and Lebron are the two best players in NBA history are severely discounting Magic Johnson and Wilt Chamberlain. They weren't as skilled on the court but were GOAT players off the court
I personally 100% agree with tony Parker being the 28th pick. He was really fucking good even without Tim Duncan. He was an elite playmaker and he was excellent in the paint despite his size. He could shoot good and overall he was just a excellent pg
“It’s pretty straightforward (no offense to the lgbtq community).” 😂 I swear no one makes me laugh more than Barry I don’t know why.
I want to like but it's at 69 so I've liked in spirit
"Karl Sandusky" was somehow better and worse at the same time. 😆
Yeah making the same joke in every video is sick
That was really funny right out of the gate !
@Fries 13
"His bread and butter was running the pick and roll with Karl Sandusky."
Jesus Christ, that's a deep cut
What's the significance of name Sandusky? lol
@@quentin1307 a coach from Penn State who sexually abused and raped over 50 young boys. Also, Karl Malone "infamously" impregnated a 13 year old when he was 20
@@jamesburgess2k jeeeesus
Yooooo
I’ve watched this twice an jus got that one ☝🏽 sandeep
Man, Barry's really just going back on all his GOAT takes. 😂
Time really changes a guy
I like the fact that he can admit he was wrong. Says something about a man.
@@dusk6159 yeah I appreciate somebody who can question there opinions based on re-evaluation
I am still not fully convinced that's the way he truly thinks about Brady now.
@@swaymcthunder1219 definitely, I'm not hating on the guy, it's just funny. Going through a mid life crisis because kupp won't date his daughter. 😂
You literally make some of the best NBA content Barry
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Jenny Anydots send the link it not popping up
No he doesn’t
@@jakobreagan2592 easily does
I think Jimmy Butler doesn’t get enough love. He does so much that doesn’t show up in the stat sheet his impact is undeniable if you watch his games.
He should've been top 75.
@@jennyanydots2389 he is registered
@@jennyanydots2389 Bro what??
I agree with this 💯. Jimmy is just a very unselfish player, but a complete player. If his role is to just hound the best player on defense that given night, that's what he will do. Man just wants to win games, casuals don't see that.
@@swaymcthunder1219 he has a winning mentality too
“His(Stockton) biggest weakness was not taking shots, as a player and a person” is a amazing little quip at Stockton not taking the covid shot
@@TheGhostofMrArthurs it’s……a joke
@@TheGhostofMrArthurs Yes, and you clearly targeted your comment towards This video and the comment you responded to NOT whomever had a bad take on Twitter.
@@TheGhostofMrArthurs did u need to vent after seeing a stupid twitter post lmao
spat my water on that one lmao
bro deleted his comment lmao
Important thing to note with KG is that he single handlely saved Minnesota basketball, there is a reason he was nicknamed 'The Big Ticket'
We WANT puppy time barry
6 more months 😩
I miss it
@@jennyanydots2389 don't even troll with shit like that. That's fucked up
Barry I think I speak for the collective good of this channel when I say: we need puppy time
Karl Sandusky 😂😂😂😂 "famously responsible gambler" 😂😂
0:26 #1 LeBron James
1:13 #2 Kevin Durant
1:44 #3 Michael Jordan
2:29 #4 Chris Paul
3:10 #5 Kevin Garnett
3:54 #6 Larry Bird
4:41 #7 Steph Curry
5:28 #8 Robert Parish
6:08 #9 Dirk Nowitzski
6:54 #10 Paul Pierce
7:41 #11 Reggie Miller [best shooter ever before Ray Allen]
8:15 #12 Julius Erving [most beloved player]
8:59 #13 Kobe Bryant [overrated & a legend at the same time]
9:47 #14 Clyde Drexler [MJ-lite]
10:26 #15 Giannis Antetonkumpo [or Kawaii Leonard]
11:12 #16 John Stockton (“Mr Assist)
11:58 #17 Shawn Kemp [got fat]
12:25 #18 Joe Dumar [steady and clutch]
12:52 #19 Tiny Archibald [pre & post-achillies tear]
13:25 #20 Larry Nance (Dunker)
13:51 #21 Michael Finley [good]
14:17 #22 Truck 🛻 Robinson
14:43 #23 Alex English
15:10 #24 Kyle Lowry [Terry Porter]
15:39 #25 Mark Price [scrappy]
16:07 #26 Vladi Divac [🇷🇺]
16:32 #27 Denis Rodman [Rebounder]
17:05 #28 Tony Parker [🇫🇷, big 3]
17:37 #29 Dennis Johnson [Defender]
18:11 #30 Jimmy Butler [does a good job]
did you just said that Reggie miller is the second best shorter ever?
Man what the hell are you smoking
You put the russian flag for Vlade
@@gabrielnascimento5154 I was gonna say the same thing
@@ias787 he was considered the best shooter ever, before Ray Allen took that title. That's what he meant when he said it in the video
Reggie Miller was ahead of his time. His killer instinct, shooting and off ball movement would thrive in today’s NBA
"His biggest weakness as a player was that he refused to take shots which ironically is also his biggest weakness as a person"
legendary joke
I didn't get that one 😭
@@dontmindmeimjustspectating2871 he's against the COVID vaccine and has said some pretty dumb stuff about it
@@timothychen754 oh smh 😂
@@timothychen754
If by dumb, you mean well supported and smart, then yes
Great list Barry, now it’s time for the worst nba draft pick at every position
That John Stockton antivax joke killed me
"Overrated and a legend at the same time." That sums up Kobe perfectly. Definitely a legend, but some people want to put him near (or even above) MJ, which is insane to me. There seems to be a certain level of idolization that causes people to rank him higher than they should. The tragedy of his early death probably feeds into that even further.
Nah, his death has little to do with that, Kobe was well overhyped during his career. After he won back to back without Shaq, people constantly considered him #2. LeBron had to win 4 fucking MVPs and God tier finals performances for people to realize that Kobe just wasn't on that exact level of greatness as him and MJ.
He figuratively took the torch from MJ after he retired for many people, so he was seen as the 2nd iteration of MJ, even though he never quite lived up to that height (honestly who could?).
@Fries Kobe is 7-12 all time objectively and his defense was decent but definitely overrated.
@Fries he was a great defender in his prime years (2000-2007) but after that, most of his defensive accolades were basically just given to him without actual regard for performance. i’d say he had 2 or 3 truly great defensive seasons and the rest were sorta overrated.
@@jamesburgess2k It helped that Kobe was a Laker.
Give him that career on the Timberwolves and I don't think anybody says Kobe was near MJ. Which is an objectively wrong thing to say.
@@recoil53 you must have not been around when he was in the peak of his career, the Jordan comparisons were everywhere. If LeBron never came around at the end of Kobe's prime, it would've been a lot more noticeable
One of the big reasons Dr. J's stats dropped is because he was playing with a prime Moses and Maurice Cheeks. On any given night, he would do whatever the team needed to win. For example, in Game 1 of the finals vs the Lakers, he put up ridiculous number of 20 points, 10 rebounds, 7 assists, 5 blocks and two steals. That's an incredible stat line and showed what he was capable of. If he was on a weaker team, he would have scored way more. Everyone's stats go down when they play along better players. The Dream Team is a great example, where Barkley led the team with 18 ppg.
Also Dr. J's numbers dipped in 77-79 because he was playing with another big time scorer George McGinnis. He was absolutely snubbed from 1st Team all defense many years in his time in ABA and some All-Defensive selections in the NBA (maybe a couple more 1st teams but mostly 2nd teams) 3 straight MVPs, another one later on. 2x Finals MVP. 3x Scoring Champion, and to this day one of the best wing defenders of all time. 3/6 Finals Record (50%) He for me is a top 5 player as he dominated both leagues and could do everything.
I love doctor j, but top 5? Who are u even replacing him with in the top 10? Best I can do is top 15, literally all of the top 10 guys have more rings, more accolades, and better numbers. Dr j is still great tho
@@TransparentEclipse, better than Bird. People like to say the ABA was trash, but then you look at the teams and players and it was literally stealing the best talents. There's interviews and player statements on this as well. But Dr. J has the same amount of rings and Finals MVPs as Bird. However Dr. J was the much better playoff performer. The much better defender. And I would argue scorer as Dr. J has a higher career ppg average, and more scoring titles. He also has over 30,000+ points which is impressive. And on top of this, Dr. J also has 3 straight MVPs and then another one in '81. There's no argument for Bird over Dr. J, even impact wise. I'd even argue he's better than Kareem since Kareem got carried by Magic and Worthy for many rings. And Dr. J was the much better Finals performer as his best Finals he averaged almost 38pts, 14 rebounds, 5 assists, and his defensive stats like Kareem were not recorded, though his regular season that year defensively was great. Kareem in his best Finals series, had less than 27pts, 18 rebounds, and 2 assists. Peak wise, Dr. J was better and he has a stacked resume. To act like he's top 15 is absurd.
@@splitsecond8356 ok, I’m not even gonna criticize ur take, ur entitled to ur opinion, and I respect it. I would be curious tho what ur top 10 players of all time list is? Most ppl have kareem at minimum a top 5 player all time, so where do u have dr j, at 4 or 3 or somewhere? When u said top 5 I assumed 5 but if u think he’s better than kareem it’s higher no? Would be super curious to see ur top 10 list, I promise I won’t judge it, I’m just genuinely interested, since it seems it’s radically different from most standard lists. I personally have dr j at 14th all time, but I’m excited to see where u place him and others. Totally open to changing my opinion
@@TransparentEclipse, I'll say this and then I'll give you my ranking with some brief explanations to not take up too much of your time. So, in boxing (for the most part) they rank fighters based off of level of competition. Ali is looked at as one of, if not the best because he played in and dominated the strongest Heavyweight era of all time, really only being rivaled by the 90s. Now boxing is an individual sport of course, by I personally use that as my main metric along with players being the 1st option, 2nd option, etc. Those are my two biggest factors because it really does show how good a player is. It also means more if you dominated in a stronger era than a weaker era. But here's my top 10...
In order: Jordan, Kobe, Dr. J, Hakeem, Duncan, Bird, Magic, Shaq, Kareem, and Lebron. No Wilt and Russell because when some of their best players like Dolph Schayes went to the hall of fame by averaging 16 points on his best season and being an ok facilitator, it really shows how bad that era was.
10, Lebron. Only started to win a weak Eastern Conference, when he joined 2 other Hall of Famers. All again in a very weak East. Then in Cleveland I still think it was a weak East, but he at least played good in the Finals so I don't hold too much against him there. Against the Heat in 2020, the Heat were missing 2 out of there top 3 best players for a good chunk of that series, and Jimmy outplayed Lebron for most of that series. I don't really hold Lebron high for the most part because of the context around his achievements, but his Finals appearances in Cleveland are impressive.
So Kareem at 9 because the 70s were bad till 76-77 in the NBA, the ABA had much better talent, with the only exception being Bob Macadoo who was actually really good. Kareem missed the playoffs twice in 75 and 76, and played a lot worse in the Finals and Playoffs than his regular season. When he got Magic he then started making the playoffs, and he Magic was playing a lot better. So Kareem played in a weak era for most of his career, and only started winning till he he became a 2nd option. Career wise, his resume is really good, however, if we only look at one's career than Bob Cousy is bordering top 20 because of his resume, which isn't at all the case.
At 8 I have Shaq. Shaq played in the 2000s West during his prime, and that was the strongest West even to this day. Though Shaq didn't spend a ton of time there. 3 of the best Finals performances of all-time, unlike Kareem. He also was the best player on at least 2 of those championship runs. Was great on every level besides shooting. Shaq is actually better than Kareem I would say, maybe not total success wise, but I've already been over why that metric can be overblown.
7 would then be Magic. Magic lead the Lakers to many championships, was decent on the defensive end but not great. Was at least a good scorer, and arguably the best facilitator. Besides in '84, he was great in the playoffs and in the Finals. I personally think though Magic and Shaq are interchangeable.
6 I would have Bird. Bird played in the East which was the strongest Eastern conference even to this day, and was much harder to make it out of the playoffs than what the West was. Bird had less success than Magic, but wasn't that far off. I do think he is overrated in the playoffs, however, he was always great in the Finals. As well as the regular season. The better defender and scorer than Magic. And was always the first option.
5 is Duncan. Duncan could be higher, however, his peak wasn't very long and wasn't as insane as some of the players peaks that is later on the list. I think Duncan is the 2nd best defender of all time, and was good in every other category. Played in the strongest west, also dominated in it but much longer than Shaq.
4, I have Hakeem. Unlike everyone I've mentioned so far, besides maybe Bird with all the 80s Small Forwards, Hakeem dominated in the 2nd best Western conference, I group the 00s and 10s together, as well as the strongest era of big man of all time. You had Robinson, Shaq, Ewing, Mourning, Mutumbo, Daugherty, etc. All with no official All-stars on his team till after he started winning championships. As well as pre 90s with Sampson but that was very short. Hakeem did a lot with much less than what Duncan had, Bird had, Magic had, etc. And I would argue is the greatest defender of all time. He played a lot better in the Finals and playoffs than what he did in the regular season which is very rare. He also statistically had the hardest playoff/championship run of all time in '95 and averaged 33pts, 11 rebounds, 5 assists, 2blks, and 2stls. He was absolutely crazy one of the best Finals performances ever. Could be higher, however, it's hard to not ignore the fact that he did not play in the strongest West of all time.
3 is Dr. J. He played his best years in the ABA where he was a top tier defender and scorer. He won 3 scoring titles, 1 All-Defensive 1st team, however, when you look at the stats and impact Dr. J should've won it at least 5 more times for first team. Dr. J also played well in all forms of the game as I explained earlier. And in the NBA should've won another chip in '77 however, his team was playing a lot of selfish ball which cost them the chip. Should've won maybe another 1st team all-defensive selection in 77 and potentially 78. But 79 onwards should be more like 2nd team and lower. And Dr. J ended his career in the 80s east which is the strongest east period.
2, Kobe. Same thing as Duncan however had a longer and better prime. Was inefficient, however all those stats can be attributed to era where the pace was slower and teams as a whole had lower efficiencies. Kobe was a great scorer, and defender. Never really had a great Finals MVP though. So you can hold that to him. And I do think Kobe could be ranked lower, I won't only just look at the positives for Kobe. Kobe did also play in the strongest West as well, so there's that to consider too.
1. Jordan, pretty much Bird on absolute steroids. The best scorer of all time, averaging the highest career ppg, being top 5 in career points, and having the most scoring titles of all-time. But was also a top tier defender. Also played in the strongest East 80s - 90s and dominated. His finals competition was really good unlike this weird rising opinion that it was bad, ua-cam.com/video/Zg-d9VBuBvI/v-deo.html
@@TransparentEclipse, sorry that comment was so long, I tried to make it as brief as possible. Included brief explanations too, so that you can at least attempt to understand my thought process. Though I do have more reasonings for placements, just didn't want to take up too much of your time. You did mention "most people" a bit in your comment, I don't really care about what a popular opinion is for rankings, because it's just an appeal to popularity. Not saying that's the case every time, but I avoid saying because of that fact. I also wanted to mention, I also factor in achievements as well in my metric system it's just not number 1 like how most people have it. I also factor in performances and play throughout the whole game, as well as offensive and defensive abilities. So don't just think I'm talking about era/competition and one's option choice on the team (1st option, 2nd option, etc.)
I want to end the KG in San Antonio debate. KG wouldn't have won nearly as many as Duncan because he was a shitty teammate. The reason the Spurs were contenders for 20 seasons was because Duncan was willing to accept a smaller role in favor of getting wins and letting teammates flourish
Nonsense. Duncan was a Top 10 All time player who had hall of fame teammates and one of the best coaches of the modern era. KG was a top 30 or so all time player who had Anthony Peeler and Wally Szczerbiak. I agree that KG probably wins fewer than 5 titles if he's in Duncan's shoes, but Duncan does not win a single ring in Minnesota. Nobody in NBA history could have won with those teams.
@Fries Duncan's help is definitely overstated, his individual brilliance was by far the biggest factor in all of their titles except 2014. That being said, it's not even an argument that he was in a better situation than KG in Minnesota, it would be crazy to suggest otherwise.
@Fries Duncan definitely had better team mates and a far better coach.
If KG was developed by Papovich then he would be an okay teammate (okay, not "good")
Really hard to say on this one...KG and Timmy best 2 power forwards I've ever seen...and I'm 65 yes old.
I love your lists. You have great sports knowledge, and offer great insight, and some funny anecdotes about players
“He was a deadeye shooter, no offense to Fetty Wap” 💀💀💀💀
The John Stockton shot joke is an all time classic
And the Karl Sandusky quip too
The Stockton section was pure comedy. Barry is the GOAT. Lowkey some Cavs history in this video too
Can you explain the "not taking shots irl" line? I'm European man and have no idea at all but seems funny
@@joseluiiiis Stockton is anti-vax.
Now, do the opposite: the worst draft picks from 1 to 30.
@Fries - Sam Bowie?
Real fun video, only thing id ask is for more of the picks you put who they beat out. In a sense like an honorable mention
I’m not huge into sports like many in the comments but I really do enjoy the channels that combine the humor and such.
And Barry’s channel is one of those whom videos and humor I really enjoy listening to. Great stuff as usual.
Sport fans argue and say stupid shit at times like Lebron is not even top 10 of all time
@@TheGaara802 A "sport fan" that I overheard in a G.O.A.T. debate said that LeBron was not even in the top 500.
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Come on man, you can't drop dimes like "Karl Sandusky" so casually. 😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂
great video again barry about the draft (no offense countries with conscription)
you're honestly the funniest NBA content creator as well as the most insightful and best. I hope you continue making more videos like these. my personal favourite was the "curry MVP virgin" as it was so funny. 99% of that video I was literally in tears of laughter. keep doing those types of videos (maybe RUSS RING VIRGIN) etc :)
@Fries watch his video on curry being a fmvp virgin he explains it well
@Fries I agree but the best player in that particular finals series was Bron. Regardless of who won. He literally made it a competitive series and without him it would’ve been a sweep by 20+ points per game fr
I’ve recently commented a few weeks ago that Barry should make a video doing the best second round pick of every nba draft, but this was an excellent list regardless ❤️ Also, Barry a funny-ass dude!
8:15 My favorite player in NBA history.
Karl Sandusky😭😭
Glad to see these new NBA videos
“Behind the famously responsible gambler” true tho 😂
The analysis mixed with humor just makes this channel goated
So in the span of 2 months Barry concedes that Brady is the GOAT and Jordan is the GOAT?
He’s a flip flopper. When LeBron leads this Lakers team to the post season, he’ll change his opinion again.
I thought the same thing.
He could be trying to be taken a little more seriously. Thing is, he is knowledgeable on the sports, but is known by most as just a troll. There is a middle ground, and I think he might be looking for that. Like the man said above me, that hate can get to just about any man.
Jordan is a Goat but Brady ain’t
Quick and to the point we love it
Keep the vids coming 🥷 love the channel
Nearly pissed myself laughing at the “Karl Sandusky” quip.
Your videos are awesome my guy!
keep these nba videos coming🐐🐐🐐
Barry says brady is the goat and now says Michael is the goat wtf happened…I miss old Barry
a video like this for the second round would have some pretty interesting picks since the options there are less known/regarded
another barry mccockiner vid W
"Karl Sandusky" lmaoooooo
You should do a best 2nd round picks of all time video. The only surefire ones I can think of are Jokic and Ginobili, so I’d love to see some more examples
And Draymond Green
@@thatswhyhesthegoat3943 Was he 2nd round or undrafted? Either way he fits the bill, could be a 2nd round / undrafted video
@@ninjamage5215 he was the 35th pick
Stockton joke had me rolling 💀 top tier humor
This is a banger video
that shot at Stockton was a quality jab
This is a certified hood classic
You can just hear how much Norm Macdonald influenced Barry's humor.
“He was a dead-eye shooter”
“No offense to Fetty Wap”
"Lebron and a bunch of make a wish kids" I can't stop laughing 😂😂😂😂😂
I’d say anyone within the top 7-8 has a GOAT argument. No one in that range is extraordinarily ahead of the next
Disagree. As amazing as guys like Magic and Bird were, I really don't see a good argument for them
@@vaclevsta magic had a 13 year career which he won 5 rings, 3x MVP, 70% win percentage, 10,000+ career assists (only 3 others to do so), 11x all star, 10x all nba
Bird is a 3x champ, 3x MVP, 12x all star, 24ppg 10rpg 6apg career averages, 9x all nba first team
@@veloxacre5265 Those are incredible resumes, but they still don't stack up to the likes of MJ and LeBron, who each have more Finals MVP's and regular season MVP's than those 2, more all NBA appearances, and better counting stats/efficiency across the board. And both were far superior defensively to either Magic/Bird.
I agree with positions 3 through 8, but MJ and Lebron really have separated themselves and stand alone at 1 and 2. It's very hard to argue (convincingly) for anyone other than them in the top 2 spots. But I could see 3 through 8 being almost interchangeable
@@m74d3 Saying someone like Kareem doesn’t come close is kinda a kick to the groin considering how much he’s done in his career
Please do best second round picks at each slot next
The John Stockton segment was perfect Barry!
No one on UA-cam has better one-liners than Barry.
Barry are you into the MLB I would like to see you put an asterisk on every World Series.
John Stockton should be brought into the greatest point guard conversations more often, his records will never be broken
@Fries probably the steals as the rules have changed so much to favor offense. Potentially the assists record could be broken, again due to the rules changing to favor offense
You should make a vid on these lakers they are bad and it’s getting hilarious 😭🤦🏾♂️
Great list
I’d like to see your list of boxing champions Barry.
How do you get your data for these videos? Do you manually browse all the webpages for the various sites?
Love your stuff man keep it up
It’s probably a mix of his own experience/memories of watching these guys, with thorough research into stats (I think basketball reference allows you to sort/search by best statistical measures per career, season, and game) and takes from the overall NBA fanbase and community to back his claims. Dude puts in some work for these vids, that’s for sure
Would love a 2nd round video
Damn Barry is so funny. Please give us more NBA content.
Great vid, do the worst picks
It is fun to see you giving love to players instead of triggering their fan bases from time to time
The fetty wap joke has me bent over dude wasn't expecting that
Did anyone else lose it when he said "Karl Sandusky" 🤣
yessir lowry getting the recognition the groat deserves
Great video, only really disagree with the second pick.
Bill Russell is definitely over KD i my book, he's a Mount Rushmoure player(4th behind MJ, Lebron and Kareem in that order) i think they are the only 4 who have a strong argument for being the GOAT.
I don’t agree but def respect the opinion. I see Russell in a similar light to Brady (admittedly I respect Russell more than Brady), they both won a crap-load of titles on stacked teams where it wasn’t up to them to win, as much as it was up to them to not screw the pooch. Russell is a legit atg, but i don’t think he’d be as remembered if he didn’t play for the celtics for the time that he did, as he likely doesn’t win the absurd amount of rings he did on another team (tbf KD doesn’t win his 2 rings if he didn’t join the Ws, so 6 of 1 i guess). Idk but i think KD, individually, is a better player, scorer, and superstar than Russell ever was, though that may just be recency bias
Barry just doing some soul-searching to find the goat
Coming back after Steph won his first finals mvp to hear what you said. Have to agree with the list but also with what you said about Steph. I expect a little hate being a warriors fan, and as much as I love the championships I really didn't like how we got them.
gotta disagree with #5 - Wade or Barkley over KG. I might even put Pippen over KG for #5.
Pippen over KG? You’re high
None of these guys got stuck in Minnesota. I'm a bulls fan, pippen? That's just disrespectful.
thank you for puttin some respect on paul pierces name. people really talk like he was some bench player in the 2000s. it always baffled me how he was so unathletic but able to create shots for himself on a consistent basis.
Pierce got plenty of love during his career, and most media/former players continue to say good things about him. The only hate came from his stint as a commentator, when he was justifiably roasted for some of his bad takes [like every other commentator].
That Tony Parker "hide your wives" had me in tears lmao
I love that in the picture of Dennis Rodman's accolades the IBM award is purple because what even is that? I had never heard of it.
I love this channel.
Imagine a team with
Steph Curry (PG)
Michael Jordan (SG)
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (C)
Tim Duncan (PF)
LeBron James (SF)
82-0
Wow I actually had the exact same list, and honestly I don’t think you can change all that much without saying some really wild stuff, would be interested to see if anyone else did come up with a different list though.
“Karl Sandusky” 😂
Hey Barry I was wondering if you can do a Triggering every NBA fanbases vid for both Western and Eastern conferences?
Saying MJ and Lebron are the two best players in NBA history are severely discounting Magic Johnson and Wilt Chamberlain. They weren't as skilled on the court but were GOAT players off the court
We need a 2nd round version of this
The Tony Parker joke 😂
I personally 100% agree with tony Parker being the 28th pick. He was really fucking good even without Tim Duncan. He was an elite playmaker and he was excellent in the paint despite his size. He could shoot good and overall he was just a excellent pg
Define elite playmaker, because his assist averages were never very high.
I love this nba content
Lebron is the goat 🙏🏼🔥 your underrated bro keep going
Mj
This is great content
Can you do top ten nfl corners of all time
16:40 The rest of the screen is 144p but rodman's hair is in 4k
"Hide your wives" 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
You should also do best 2nd round picks ever.
The Truck Robinson part was gold.
Curry finally got the finals MVP lol
I don’t agree with some of your nba takes but your humor is fucking next level.
Klay Thompson would like a word with you about Reggie being the best #11 pick ever
That Fetty Wap joke is very underrated 😂
“Featuring Lebron and a bunch of make-a-wish kids.” 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Karl Sandusky 🤣 this guy is genius
The stockton shots jab is a good one