I recently bought a 1967 Country Gentleman on which you had carried out some repairs to the binding for the previous owner. I have to say that the quality of your work is excellent. I also have a 1964 Tennessean which, incredibly, has no binding rot whatsoever - unless of course, you have repaired that one too! Excellent workmanship, excellent video - thank you.
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@Blaine Jalen thanks so much for your reply. I got to the site on google and I'm in the hacking process atm. Seems to take a while so I will reply here later with my results.
I have a '72 or so. Same binding junk. God bless you for doing this kind of repair. I don't think my CG will ever see this type of kindness and healing ... But I'd be happy just to have the neck done, to make it playable.
Wow, thanks for showing this process... very helpful! I'm confused about some things... do you want to score around the side and top of the front binding, and the side and back of the back binding first to keep the clear coat from chipping out over the finish? You appear to only be scoring the side. Also, you seem to be using the razor blade to cut the binding form the side, but not the top of the binding. Why is it necessary on the side but not the top? Thank you!
I don't think they shrink, the hole size that I drill is consistent and there's no evidence of any shrinking in the celluloid.As far as the dots are concerned I've replaced about 900 of them.
I’ve seen so many older Gretschs with binding rot. The nitrocellulose binding they used just doesn’t stand up to age very well. I love old Gretsch guitars from the late 50’s and 60’s but this is a pretty normal thing in the ones I’ve been around.
It happens when they are left in the case for too long. The celluloid binding gasses off and has nowhere to go, so it seeps into the rest of it and causes the cracking.
Great job!! I have a very similar Gretsch guitar that I’m going to replace the binding on. where did you order your binding & what sizes did you use? Thanks!
Affect the cost? Maybe but no more than rotted binding falling off. It's expensive and part of that has to do with four ply on a double cut Country Gent.
@@ranman58635 Being left in a case did mine.. I had a 66 imported to the U.K from America in the 1990s. The binding was in mint condition. I played it 4-5 nights a week and moved to Spain for 3 years. It was still in the same condition when I came home but I had some health problems after a few years back in the U.K, so didn't play it for over two years and it was left in its case. In that time the binding started to rot, so I sold it before it got worse and started flaking and have regretted it ever since.
This approach gives me nightmares. Scuffed-up guitar nightmares. Should have fixed that body to the table first. Now what you got is a ton of broken binding that he proceeds to lay the guitar down on, spinning it around as he goes. No thanks.
What do you do for a living? This is binding job 102, never has a guitar been damaged or even close. When the binding crumbles it turns to dust. The binding is celluloid acetate, the finish is a stain that has been cleared with nitrocellulose lacquer.
@@CAWilson58 I'm a Luthier. I would never ever lay someone's instrument on all that crap you just did and then proceed to move it around the way you do. 1, The guitar should have been locked down to the table ( whichever way you choose Jig, or strap) so that it doesn't move, and 2, any loose celly cleaned up as you go. Show some professionalism. I can see the scuff marks on the guitar in the video.
I recently bought a 1967 Country Gentleman on which you had carried out some repairs to the binding for the previous owner. I have to say that the quality of your work is excellent. I also have a 1964 Tennessean which, incredibly, has no binding rot whatsoever - unless of course, you have repaired that one too! Excellent workmanship, excellent video - thank you.
Thanks!
I guess im asking randomly but does anyone know of a trick to log back into an Instagram account??
I stupidly lost the password. I appreciate any tips you can give me.
@Blaine Jalen thanks so much for your reply. I got to the site on google and I'm in the hacking process atm.
Seems to take a while so I will reply here later with my results.
@Blaine Jalen It worked and I finally got access to my account again. I am so happy:D
Thank you so much you saved my account!
@Forrest Karter happy to help =)
Great stuff Curt. Fascinating to watch how you go about addressing this common Gretsch problem. Looking forward to watching the project progress.
I have a '72 or so. Same binding junk. God bless you for doing this kind of repair. I don't think my CG will ever see this type of kindness and healing ... But I'd be happy just to have the neck done, to make it playable.
Great job. I need to do this to my Tennessean that I have had since 1975.
I have an Ibanez PS10 getting the binding replaced, it seems like the early PS10s have the same binding deterioration issues.
Wow, thanks for showing this process... very helpful! I'm confused about some things... do you want to score around the side and top of the front binding, and the side and back of the back binding first to keep the clear coat from chipping out over the finish? You appear to only be scoring the side. Also, you seem to be using the razor blade to cut the binding form the side, but not the top of the binding. Why is it necessary on the side but not the top? Thank you!
I'd get that shop vac in there. I can't imagine good results laying that thing face down on the debris.
The debris is celluloid which can explode with static electricity. I’ve done over 50 of these without an incident. So many experts so little time.
When you slide the body around on top of the broken off binding does it damage the top? Curious, as I am about to do a similar job.
No not at all.
yeah thats because they shrunk !!~ the dots that is ! ive done over 25 of these binding shrinkers two monkee,s guitars one first and second gen
I don't think they shrink, the hole size that I drill is consistent and there's no evidence of any shrinking in the celluloid.As far as the dots are concerned I've replaced about 900 of them.
@@CAWilson58Um you can see in YOUR VID the binding has shrunk ! why what do you think happens to it ???? 900 LOL
oh and by the way 900 binding jobs at two weeks is 34 years straight ! so ya wanna re calculate ?
I feel like Bill Murray just taught me something!!
I’ve seen so many older Gretschs with binding rot. The nitrocellulose binding they used just doesn’t stand up to age very well. I love old Gretsch guitars from the late 50’s and 60’s but this is a pretty normal thing in the ones I’ve been around.
All celluloid will disintegrate just ask the film industry. From my experience what differentiates Gretsch form others is the glue they used.
It happens when they are left in the case for too long. The celluloid binding gasses off and has nowhere to go, so it seeps into the rest of it and causes the cracking.
@@CAWilson58 I think they used lacquer thinners to glue the binding.
So the body didn't get totally scratched up from you putting it on the loose binding and sliding it all over?
Nope.
@@CAWilson58 Nice!
The painted F holes get me every time.
I thought I was the only one who used my Gretsch as a door stop and a chew toy
The use of the freehand technique is worrying surely should be supported with clamp ?
Is that how you do it?
@@CAWilson58 abs yes with heat gun gently
This is #105 and it's celluloid.
@@delboyoelmundo4718
Does the binding smell strongly
How much does this cost if I was a customer asking for this work?
I'm not doing them anymore, the videos were made so people could do this job themselves and save $1,800 for a four ply job.
Great job!! I have a very similar Gretsch guitar that I’m going to replace the binding on. where did you order your binding & what sizes did you use? Thanks!
Here ya go www.axinc.net/Celluloid_Binding_Laminates_s/56.htm Each guitar is a little different so you're going to have to measure.
What would this usually cost? And does it effect the Gretsch super axe?
Affect the cost? Maybe but no more than rotted binding falling off. It's expensive and part of that has to do with four ply on a double cut Country Gent.
Super Axes were later production. Most binding rot is 63-69/70 Gretsch guitars.
@@mrpbody44 My 64 Country Gentleman had the start of it in 1984, my Super Axe is a 77 and has no signs of it so you must be right, thanks..
What causes this type of deterioration?
All celluloid film/acetate will break down eventually but the guitars environment plays a hand.
@@CAWilson58 , like humidity and heat?
@@ranman58635 Being left in a case did mine.. I had a 66 imported to the U.K from America in the 1990s. The binding was in mint condition. I played it 4-5 nights a week and moved to Spain for 3 years. It was still in the same condition when I came home but I had some health problems after a few years back in the U.K, so didn't play it for over two years and it was left in its case. In that time the binding started to rot, so I sold it before it got worse and started flaking and have regretted it ever since.
Saw iphone in half and work in peace
I can’t believe you are rubbing the face of the guitar all over them broken hard chips of binding. I wouldn’t let you near my guitar !!!!
Great,
I’ve done over 100 of these with zero damage so…..
This makes me nervous to watch! I know he's going to slip!
too much hassle, too easy to make a mistake, not worth it.
Lol
All that work just to mar the finish with binding shrapnel on the work area which should be vacuumed off.
Please demonstrate! The finish is perfect, please show me how's it's done.
This approach gives me nightmares. Scuffed-up guitar nightmares. Should have fixed that body to the table first. Now what you got is a ton of broken binding that he proceeds to lay the guitar down on, spinning it around as he goes. No thanks.
What do you do for a living?
This is binding job 102, never has a guitar been damaged or even close. When the binding crumbles it turns to dust. The binding is celluloid acetate, the finish is a stain that has been cleared with nitrocellulose lacquer.
@@CAWilson58 I'm a Luthier. I would never ever lay someone's instrument on all that crap you just did and then proceed to move it around the way you do. 1, The guitar should have been locked down to the table ( whichever way you choose Jig, or strap) so that it doesn't move, and 2, any loose celly cleaned up as you go. Show some professionalism. I can see the scuff marks on the guitar in the video.
@@MrStevie777 not scuff marks chief, it’s checking. I’ve had zero issues, go change some strings…
Come on. Clean all that crap off the work surface before you wreck the finish of the guitar.
Mom is that you?
Too bad you don’t have a router
I have several along with a CNC.