Amiga and Atari ST linked - MULTIPLAYER GAMING
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- Опубліковано 19 гру 2023
- Was this the earliest form of cross-platform gaming?
Let's look back to the 1980's and see what cross-platform gaming existed and what it was like to play,
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I remember those joysticks. How they didnt break when first use baffled me. I would go left or right as far as a vehicle would go and still be pressing the joystick as hard as I could to get the car to turn more. The sound of hte buttons brought back the memory of them. lol. So clunky.
Zipsticks are still the best 😁
Z-80 for the win!! i recall a number of different bits of software that ran on a variety of Z-80 based systems. of course it was focused on the Least Common Denominator, but they could do it.
good video simon..i like to see the differences in the same game for different consoles or computers ..i used to do it with hardware mags back in the day before Christmas...loved it
Thanks Mike
I guess you could go back in further in time if you were to include some of the early BBS text adventure games, which would work with any computer platform that had a modem.
When I saw the title of this video, I actually thought you were looking at different platforms, ie. ST and Amiga which could actually load and run the same game from the same disk. There was at least one such game called Starglider 2 that did this by Argonaut Software.
Yes there probably were earlier cross-platform 'games' but this was the earliest sort of recognisable stuff I could find. I hope it was still interesting though, as an Atari ST user back in the day I had no idea this was a thing.
I loved Starglider. I never had Starglider 2 though, and I had no idea they did that with the ST/Amiga disks. I'm guessing that was to save money?
I put a hole in the wall between my Nephew & Me to Serial play Stunt Car, Lotus, Vroom etc...
Had to patch the wall when we left
Brilliant 😂. I thought about doing the same as I gave my lad an ST 😂
i would also like to see you play some games on your amiga and st for future videos..have a great Christmas simon!
Thanks Mike. I'll see what I can do. All the best and thank you for your support 😊
multi-(player/terminal/system) games go WAAAAY back before the 80's.
look into MUDs and MUCKs and MOOs (oh my!)
Yes I saw some stuff relating to that but thought it was on the same hardware on mainframe type setups? More institutions rather than home users? I don't know for sure though
I linked 2 amigas back in the day, but had no idea you could do it with Amiga to st.
@sheep20011 Thanks for the comment. I didn't either. I had an Atari ST back in the day and I'd never heard it was even a thing! I was blown away when it worked
Interesting video, something I'd never thought of. If I remember rightly both the ST & Amiga 500 used Motorola 68000 processors and therefore the same machine code instruction set? Which may explain the compatibility?
Wonder if it would work on a Amiga 1200, which I think is a 68020 processor? Not sure though as I'm not an expert on this.
Got me thinking are the Amstrad CPC machines compatible with Spectrum software (both used Z80 processors ,I think), I've never owned a CPC therefore don't know.
Hi John. I think it must have been due to both machines running the 68000, but I don't know for sure. I believe it was relatively straight forward for developers to port software between the machines, which I'd say has to be down to sharing that CPU. As for the 68020 I've no idea. I'd love to add a 1200 to my collection at some point. If I do, I'll certainly be trying it out.
I like you're thinking with the Z80 as I went through the same process researching it. I couldn't find anything on system linking the ZX81/Spectrum, or anything else for that matter. I would suspect it was maybe doable through the expansion slots, but let's consider the market at the time. Firstly, memory was tight in these systems, hence why anything decent on the ZX81 needed 16K and with rare exceptions like Jetpack on the Spectrum, you needed a 48K machine.
The gaming market was also in it's infancy with these machines too, with many written by individuals or micro sized software 'companies'. I doubt system linking, never mind cross-platform, was even on their radar.
I know I've had comments in relation to system linked games going back way further than the Amiga/ST, but what I could find, this was on mainframe type setups running in big organisations, and I'm not sure if that was really cross-platform. But as always I stand to be corrected. I had an ST back in the day and had no idea it could be linked up to an Amiga. I think it's pretty funny that really considering the ST/Amiga fanboy arguments back in the day.
I had to include Flight Sim 2 in the video though, as it was a game I played on the ST for thousands of hours, flying around in a world with just me in it. It's hard to explain how it felt to get it working on system link and seeing a second plane for the first time. There was much happiness to this, and sadness too that I'd missed the chance to do it back in the day 😢
Merry Christmas and a happy goodbye. That load of pcbway was just to much for me.
Hey Leo. Sorry about that. All the best anyway