Why is this Old Disused Railway being turned into a Canal?

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  • @Rockdoc2174
    @Rockdoc2174 Рік тому +3

    The line at Cromford Road near Langley Mill was a colliery line, not BR. It linked Moorgreen and Watnall to massive interchange sidings a couple of hundred yards north of Langley Mill & Eastwood station. It passed the GNR line near Eastwood & Langley Mill station and interchanged there, too. I knew the original Stoney Lane very well. My Grandfather would take me along there to feed the swans and ducks on the canal near Vicar’s Lock in the mid-fifties. The Pinxton branch crossed the road there and the keeper lived in what may well have been originally the lock-keeper’s house.
    British Waterways and the NCB had to do a deal very quickly to close this section of the Cromford and the Nottingham canals for opencasting. People were beginning to kayak along them, which might have been enough to prove continued use. A mate said he fished in the Nottingham one weekend and returned the following weekend to find the canal breached and all the fish dead.

  • @briyeo
    @briyeo Рік тому +7

    That area was our playground back in the 1950's and early 1960's. When the canal and railways were still there. We were always hanging around the canal from Langley Mill up to Codnor Park res. My brother myself and a friend even made it on to the Langley Mill and Aldercar Cooperative calendar one year when we were photographed fishing for sticklebacks next to Lock 13. My father worked at the Moorgreen Colliery and sometimes got a ride back to the Cromford road level crossing in the cab of the Locomotive. My mother always referred to that railway branch as the Paddy LIne, We went down to look at the work being done on the canal a couple of weeks ago. If only it could have been left how it was when I was young.

  • @chrisbentleywalkingandrambling

    It's brilliant that they are resurrecting this Ant. Thanks for highlighting this for us.

  • @malcolmrichardson3881
    @malcolmrichardson3881 Рік тому +5

    Great to see an imaginative re-use of a former railway to enable the Cromford canal extension. In the past, it was often new railways which took over canal routes. Nice to see the tables being turned!

  • @themackeler5011
    @themackeler5011 Рік тому +2

    Brilliant Ant I used to fish a stoney lane lock and watched the bulldozers fill in the canal with earth think the canal will still be under all the earth

  • @leswallace2426
    @leswallace2426 Рік тому +12

    Fascinating stuff....so great to see canals being restored and the commitment and initiative of volunteers.

    • @TrekkingExploration
      @TrekkingExploration  Рік тому +3

      It's wonderful isn't it? I shall definitely be back for updates 😀

  • @angelaknisely-marpole7679
    @angelaknisely-marpole7679 Рік тому +2

    Brilliant, thank you. We belong to the Chesterfield Canal Society and they are doing really well at re-opening the canal!

    • @TrekkingExploration
      @TrekkingExploration  Рік тому

      I walked that when I first started doing these in 2019. Maybe it's worth re doing

  • @lesbendo6363
    @lesbendo6363 Рік тому +7

    It is amazing how much history you have all around you. And how far back it goes in time!
    Where I live;
    Fort Langley BC, Canada
    National Historic Site
    Built 1827 (original)
    1839/1840 (second site)
    Original use - Trading post
    Rebuilt 1957-58
    Current use - Living museum. 🇨🇦

    • @v8cool231
      @v8cool231 Рік тому

      Most of the time we take it for granted though. Virtually every village in the UK has a church that dates back to at least the 1400's, and you can more often than not just walk in them. Although I sometimes sit back and look what we have and it hurts my head thinking about the the history here . Where I used to live there was a church with an Anglo saxon vault underneath and you could visit it. The atmosphere under there was astonishing. 1000 years of people entering it, and it was totally unspoilt, unrestored.
      Today, I visited a castle where Katherine Parr (Henry VIII last wife) lived. And Queen Elizabeth 1st lived there with her. To think I actually walked under the same archways as Elizabeth 1st did, blows my mind. And in this castle theres original locks of Katherine Parrs hair, and one of her teeth.

  • @cadburysclub1807
    @cadburysclub1807 Рік тому +2

    Grew up just up the road from the level crossing in Langley Mill, (1972 until 1992)unfortunately the Durham Ox my childhood home is no longer there but remember the coal trains from Moorgreen colliery using the line and the slag heap behind the A610 before it was covered over, Hall road was built to allow the coal lorries from Woodlinken open cast mine to get to the A610 duel carriageway ( before the extension was built where the brick bridge is) hope this information is useful

  • @martinbell8369
    @martinbell8369 Рік тому +3

    Great video. I lived in jacksdale and I remember walking around there when I was a young lad with my grandad in the early eighties. We walked from brinsley and the old canal was filled in so you could see the bank walls in the fields. That was all lost when it was opencast. I would love to see it reopened again even if it was only a short way.

  • @alanlake5220
    @alanlake5220 Рік тому +11

    Fantastic stuff Ant, hope it goes ahead, and yes keep popping back to see what progress is being made .

  • @v8cool231
    @v8cool231 Рік тому

    Wonderful old photos. Its amazing all the hustle bustle, and smells these places saw every and heard everyday. People clocked in and worked there like its a normal day, using those old buildings, and not thinking much of it, not knowing that people in 2023 will be looking at them with some form of romantic nostalgia.

  • @michaelmiller641
    @michaelmiller641 Рік тому +3

    I did enjoy that, Ant, Another fascinating video! Fancy that! Building new canals in 2023!

  • @Mark-yk1ny
    @Mark-yk1ny Рік тому +3

    Outstanding video thanks ant 👍 I hope they keep that bit of track too 🤞

  • @johncarold
    @johncarold Рік тому +4

    Hi Ant, WoW ! This will be great to see what happens through the years. It would be nice to see your boat chugging down the locks.

    • @TrekkingExploration
      @TrekkingExploration  Рік тому +2

      It's a two year project I believe so progress may be pretty good

  • @ukman9797
    @ukman9797 10 місяців тому

    It goes full circle. The railways replced the canals. Now the canal is replacing the railway. Great video.

  • @petergrant2366
    @petergrant2366 Рік тому +5

    Brilliantly put together, I love your passion and so nice to see the old Cromford canal being extended, even though its not the original route.

  • @Marc_von_Hoffrichter
    @Marc_von_Hoffrichter Рік тому +2

    That is amazing. I certainly hope it all comes together! What a great effort from a committed group. Will be wonderful to check in on this. Thanks Ant, appreciated cobber.

  • @michaeljohnson-li5nn
    @michaeljohnson-li5nn Рік тому

    As a lifelong resident of Jacksdale, and someone who is interested in our industrial heritage, it’s heartwarming to see the restoration of the Cromford canal. From my perspective it would be interesting to see what was needed to further extend the canal to Jacksdale and maybe up as far as Codnor Park reservoir. To fully restore the canal it would need the Butterley tunnel to be made navigable again. This would be a major civil engineering project, and I would imagine an extremely expensive one. Looking forward to your updates on this project.

  • @2010ditta
    @2010ditta Рік тому +2

    Hopefully they will leave that bit of track alone...maybe put a couple of wagons on it or a coach etc. Lovely video again..all the best.

  • @rustycyclingtrucker
    @rustycyclingtrucker Рік тому +2

    I live just round the corner from this really looking forward to seeing the reinstated bit of the comford canal.
    Thanks ant great to see all this as it all gets done

  • @williamoates1754
    @williamoates1754 Рік тому

    What a fantastic addition to tourism in the area. Imagining the canal trip from Cromford to Langley Mill and back is heartwarming, even though i doubt i will live to see it. What also comes through in your inspired video is the way our industrial heritage has been vadalised by so called progress in the past, which was likely caused by lack of forward planning, and short term gain.

  • @IS-L
    @IS-L Рік тому +4

    I hope this gets started soon. But please slow down on the camera panning, it’s better to take long shots rather than pan. We don’t get dizzy and appreciate the views a bit more.

  • @martinmarsola6477
    @martinmarsola6477 Рік тому +1

    Thank you for the walk along tour with you today. An interesting conversation about the past and future. See you on the next. Cheers Ant! 🇬🇧🙂👍🇺🇸

  • @richardharris4452
    @richardharris4452 Рік тому +2

    Thank you, Ant. I've walked most of the route many times & knew of the plans, but didn't realise you could walk beyond the basin. The use of the former railway line isn't a bad plan b to the original line,as you rightly say, but once again, your research & and presentation are truly superb.
    I look forward to future updates.

  • @orwellboy1958
    @orwellboy1958 Рік тому +1

    Thanks Ant. Another interesting presentation. Funny how things change, it was probably the railway that killed of the canal and now the canal will be resurrected via the railway.

  • @stuart3383
    @stuart3383 Рік тому +1

    Made my evening thanks Ant.

  • @jontaylor1652
    @jontaylor1652 Рік тому +1

    What an interesting topic, this is the first I've heard of this project. Very well done Ant and thanks.

    • @TrekkingExploration
      @TrekkingExploration  Рік тому +1

      It's exciting stuff isn't it? Very different. I'll definitely be back for future updates

  • @eggy77
    @eggy77 Рік тому +2

    Love to see all the old canals getting restored to their former glory. I wondered regarding the Chesterfield Canal as there's an old railway tunnel that goes under the M1 parallel to where the Norwood tunnel is, I wondered if they could use the railway tunnel instead of rerouting the canal...
    I was looking at the course if the old Nottingham Canal yesterday, I wonder if there's any plans to restore that, but it's been built on around the Lenton area so that would need a fair old detour.

  • @shirleylynch7529
    @shirleylynch7529 Рік тому +1

    Fabulous Ant. Great filming. Photos before amazing. Just love your music choices. They enhance your films so much. Thank you

  • @terryansell6641
    @terryansell6641 7 місяців тому

    You always a excellent job with your videos thank you from New Zealand

  • @nottyash2316
    @nottyash2316 Рік тому +2

    The railway you mention several times was not the Midland Watnall branch. This came through Kimberley and joined the Erewash Valley main line near Awsworth. They also had a branch up to Watnall Colliery and brickworks, but no further. The line crossing the canal and the Erewash just north of Langley Mill was a colliery line owned by Barber Walker and later the NCB. Both trains you show are NCB trains. Barber Walker had a quite extensive system of branch lines feeding from various collieries in the area to the canal and the Erewash Valley line, as well as the Great Northern. Otherwise a very interesting video. Thanks.

    • @TrekkingExploration
      @TrekkingExploration  Рік тому +1

      I've just checked my usually reliable maps online and the line that joins near Awsworth is the Babbington Branch? I've also followed the route of the line in this video and it heads on over to Watnall and Watnall Junction. The other line from Watnall was the Basford to Ilkeston Midland Railway joining by Bennerley

    • @nottyash2316
      @nottyash2316 Рік тому +1

      @@TrekkingExploration The MR Watnall branch (or New Watnall Colliery Branch) ran north from near Watnall station on the MR Bennerley-Bulwell line to Watnall Colliery only. Here it connected with the Barber Walker colliery lines which ran south to Nuthall and north west towards Beauvale Priory before turning west through Moorgreen Collliery to Langley Mill. Barber Walker also had several branches joining this line to various collieries and landsale sites, plus connections to the GNR and MR at Langley Mill and elsewhere. Old OS maps will show this pretty clearly. I could understand how the map makers of your reference might think the MR line carried on to Langley Mill, but with local knowledge I can assure you it didn't. There is a good reference to the Barber Walker lines and various photos, maps etc in the The Great Northern Railway in the East Midlands: Erewash Valley Lines, Pinxton Branch, Awsworth - Ilkeston, Heanor & Stanton Branches book - see www.abebooks.co.uk/servlet/BookDetailsPL?bi=31586923109&searchurl=an%3Dhenshaw%2Balfred%26sortby%3D17%26tn%3Dgreat%2Bnorthern%2Brailway%2Beast&cm_sp=snippet-_-srp1-_-title3

  • @colleennewton7882
    @colleennewton7882 Рік тому

    Great stuff Ant, in my doorstep too. Can't wait to see how it progresses.

  • @lindamccaughey6669
    @lindamccaughey6669 Рік тому +1

    Really enjoyed that thanks Ant. Can’t wait to see the work as they do int, I so look forward to it

  • @mikenorman2525
    @mikenorman2525 Рік тому +2

    Great video, I don't live far from there and it wasn't that long ago I cycled up from Trent Lock to Langley Mill along the towpath and I had no idea this was even happening! I suppose it's handy that the coal mining lasted just long enough (probably only by a few years) that when the A610 Langley Mill bypass was built in the early 1980s they had to provide that bridge otherwise this project would probably have been a non-starter.

    • @TrekkingExploration
      @TrekkingExploration  Рік тому +1

      It is lucky that this particular mine and railway lasted until 1985 the route beyond towards nottingham closing years before

  • @andrewhotston983
    @andrewhotston983 Рік тому +1

    Seems amazing that people are extending the canal network at the same time as budget cuts mean that the existing operating canal network is threatened!

  • @benGBRf
    @benGBRf Рік тому

    Another fantastic video Ant. Thank you 😊

  • @simonballard6413
    @simonballard6413 Рік тому +1

    Another fascinating video, Ant. I do hope it all happens soon. (lovely piano music at the beginning, by the way!) Many thanks.

  • @ste.h9825
    @ste.h9825 Рік тому +2

    As usual a very good informative video.Roll on part 2.Thanks Ant.👍

  • @quercus21
    @quercus21 Рік тому +1

    I hope they go ahead. There have been talks of re-opening or extending back onto the Kennet and Avon near Melksham in Wiltshire.

  • @Tuberuser187
    @Tuberuser187 Рік тому +1

    Its fortunate there is an alternative route, there are some Canal restoration projects that are proving impossible when they simply cant afford to go over/under a road when it will cost as much as the rest of the entire project.

  • @roblubelski422
    @roblubelski422 Рік тому +1

    Interested to see the progress with this. Great video as always, some cracking images and drone footage.

  • @simonrichardson5077
    @simonrichardson5077 Рік тому

    Another gem.thanks Ant

  • @michaelwhite1723
    @michaelwhite1723 Рік тому

    Another cracking video Ant, very informative as usual, I was here few months ago for the festival with Python. Hope to bump into you again soon for a catch up

  • @simonballard6413
    @simonballard6413 Рік тому

    Very interesting indeed. I wish Butterley tunnel could be reopened, too !!

  • @fhwolthuis
    @fhwolthuis Рік тому +1

    Very interesting project 👍🏻

  • @Jimyjames73
    @Jimyjames73 Рік тому

    That's different - didn't expect that!!! 🤔🚂🚂🚂

  • @JosephWood1941-iz6mi
    @JosephWood1941-iz6mi 8 місяців тому

    What about the severed section of the canal at Ambergate? This occurred in the mid 1960s when Ambergate electricity substation was either expanded or possibly built. The canal was severed at this point. I walked the cansl route from Cromford to Ambgate before 2015.
    The canal at the Cromford terminal connected with the canal-that-never-was that became a railway. The Cromford and High Peak Railway.

  • @amberdy12
    @amberdy12 Рік тому +1

    Really enjoyed the video = what a feelgood plan. Hope it's successfully completed. Wonder if Brian Blessed helped raise the money needed. I remember when he lived near here he was a member of "The friends of Cromford canal "

  • @trevorkent7916
    @trevorkent7916 Рік тому

    Absolutely fantastic

  • @martinbrew
    @martinbrew Рік тому +1

    I think the "yard lamps" may have been for semaphore signals.

  • @neiloflongbeck5705
    @neiloflongbeck5705 Рік тому +1

    Many early railway companies purchased canal companies filled them in and converted them into railways as lots of the infrastructure was already in place.

    • @TrekkingExploration
      @TrekkingExploration  Рік тому

      That's right so it's quite ironic it's happening the other way around so many years later

  • @F4Insight-uq6nt
    @F4Insight-uq6nt Рік тому

    This process will have happened before many times and will happen again many times. This video in fact proves everything I have been saying on the subject of Water Ways.
    I didn't need any confirmation personally , buts it a nice bonus... PS: Cromford Canal = CC = 33. Canal = 'C' Anal. & Cromford Mill = CM = 33
    All my own work.... Thanks once again for proving me 100% correct.

  • @jetsons101
    @jetsons101 Рік тому

    Silly Question: At 1:26 in the top/right of the image there is a smokestack, what name is on it. All I can read is "VIC HALLAM???????? The green really "pop's" in you drone shots of the farm fields. Again, a very enjoyable and informative watch.....

    • @briyeo
      @briyeo Рік тому +1

      Vic Hallam made wooden buildings, sheds greenhouses at first but they also made whole new schools and Library buildings locally in the 1950's. Portacabins were big business in later years.

    • @jetsons101
      @jetsons101 Рік тому

      @@briyeo Thanks for info. I thought there was more to the last name on the smokestack.....

  • @jayewaters3921
    @jayewaters3921 Рік тому

    Yes they are old lamp posts. also were used on the Uk roads

  • @mickd6942
    @mickd6942 Рік тому

    Was that bridge you were stood on a baily bridge , it certainly looked like it .

  • @marybradley7791
    @marybradley7791 Рік тому

    Great video, this is going to be a very interesting series, is this the canal they are restoring that is going to join up with the South Yorkshire Navigation?

    • @TrekkingExploration
      @TrekkingExploration  Рік тому

      I think that may have been the Chesterfield Canal? I can't remember. Thanks very much for watching Mary

    • @mikenorman2525
      @mikenorman2525 Рік тому

      The Cromford canal used to go all the way to Cromford (naturally enough!) which is where it always terminated (at Arkwright's mills, the reason for the canal's construction). A severed part of it a few miles in length still remains between Cromford and Ambergate meaning there is a missing section between Ambergate and Langley Mill. Ant's video covers the restoration for a mile or so in the direction of Ambergate from Langley Mill but it would be a huge undertaking to reconnect all the way to Ambergate (and hence to Cromford), not least because of the problem of reopening (or bypassing) the collapsed Butterley Tunnel .

    • @TrekkingExploration
      @TrekkingExploration  Рік тому

      @@mikenorman2525 the tunnel will always be the problem I fear no matter what else gets restored.. thank you for watching

    • @richardharris4452
      @richardharris4452 Рік тому

      Add to that , the canal would have to cross back over the A610 around Ambergate,which I can't see happening,sadly.

    • @bobingram6912
      @bobingram6912 Рік тому

      That's quite a project and well explained Ant, but can you tell me what the end purpose is, I get the impression they're just extending it a bit further into the middle of nowhere but will it go on to somewhere? Did I miss something???

  • @dieselbushcraft1299
    @dieselbushcraft1299 Рік тому +1

    If you’re interested in canal restoration and want to do another video on the subject do a google on Lichfield and Hatherton Canal Trust, they are carrying out a fantastic project.

  • @sigbjrnjohansen8872
    @sigbjrnjohansen8872 6 місяців тому

    Imponert over innsatsen som blir lagt ned 😮😊😊

  • @davidedmundson1208
    @davidedmundson1208 Рік тому

    Great video as always, but I’m afraid this will just become a new housing development, really hope it doesn’t but not holding my breath !!!

  • @butchknapman3939
    @butchknapman3939 11 місяців тому

    In my book you are not far wrong former railways how they link to modern railways and canals, both interesting subjects

  • @a11csc
    @a11csc Рік тому +1

    this is a deffo must ant to document this

  • @vinylchaser5115
    @vinylchaser5115 Рік тому +1

    They will probably electric barges

    • @TrekkingExploration
      @TrekkingExploration  Рік тому

      Plans are for you to take your own boats and also trip boats I believe

  • @thomasmann9216
    @thomasmann9216 Рік тому

    If the new route of the canal is going to pass under the A610, why not revive the old route and have it...pass under the A610?

  • @davidh4514
    @davidh4514 Рік тому

    Old railways shuuld be repurposed fkr transport use, roads tramways, bus lanes raiways even or cycle paths and so on.

  • @angelcoops511
    @angelcoops511 Рік тому

    They’ve rerouted canal’s before, so I’m sure they can do that. Would be great if they did.

  • @geoffsharp6163
    @geoffsharp6163 Рік тому

    Amazon contributing? AMAZON ARE YOU CONTRIBUTING ?!

  • @annoyingbstard9407
    @annoyingbstard9407 Рік тому

    They need somewhere to dump all their old shopping trollies.

  • @garystanley6097
    @garystanley6097 Рік тому

    Hi there love the video. Very detailed and informative. Could you please add the track list of all the music you use in all future videos. Thank you.