- set your zebra's to 95% Then it is easy to see where highlight clipping will occur. - Use the monitoring lut in the camera to get a good idea of what the image will look like when applying a conversion to rec709. If the preview looks good, it means you can get the final image after grading to look even better than that. - Avoid shooting at ISO 2000-3200. These are noisier than the higher ISO's. If you need to shoot at such levels, go straight to ISO 4000 or higher. - When grading, use a proper color space conversion (transform or lut) as your first step. Your color grade controls will likely expect certain color primaries and a gamma corrected image, which the vlog recording isn't, so they might behave a bit odd on uncorrected vlog footage. - Shadows should look darker after grading, not brighter (when comparing the footage before applying any color conversions or preview luts). If you need to brighten shadows, you underexposed the image.
Very nit-picky but you should (at least in resolve) put the color space transform to the last node so you have more information to work with in the nodes before that
@@Zentrify Good point, converting to rec709 might clip colors which you can't recover after that. I myself actually prefer an ACES workflow. So with an IDT you first convert to an ACEScc or ACEScct colorspace in which you perform the grade on a 32 bit timeline and then upon export (and for preview) use an ODT to convert to rec709 (or REC2020). I'm using Vegas Pro myself which doesn't have color space transforms as such, I'm sure Resolve supports ACES aswell.
Also worth to add - as this is something I learned recently - why vlog needs conversion to rec709. This is because vlog is acquisition color space and rec709 is display color space. There are some videos on UA-cam where you can get more info about it ( for example "WHY Your Vlog Colors Look Bad and How to Fix It!" by Tony Dea).
Thank you for this. I am a true beginner in all things S5 (photography/filming) and I like your point of view and mindset. I have much to learn but you explained this well. I’ve subscribed to your channel. Thank you! I also like your calmness. So many UA-cams of howtos the person explaining is so hyper or goes so quickly it’s overwhelming.
You need to apply a conversion lut or do a colourspace transform before you apply any creative luts! V-log colourspace is BT.2020 while all sort of screens are rec.709, so you are not properly seeing the colours of the camera.
Exposing brighter in v-log is something I'm still getting used to, but it's knowledge that absolutely should be dispersed. Great tip on the waveform, I'm going to practice using that more starting now.
Nice video. Re color grading, I have figured out a quite powerful node tree for V-Log (S1H): I set the complete project color space on Davinci Resolve to Arri Log C and the output space to Rec709 2.4. Arri Log-C is famous for its wide gammut and a very nice highlight roll off. I have a very first node for gentle NR which I can toggle on and off as required, then follows the node with the conversion from V-log into Arri Log C which can be either a color transform node from Davinci Resolve or (which I prefer in the meanwhile) a node with the plugin CineMatch. CineMatch allows also to transform FilmicPro Log-2 shot on an iPhone 12+ to be converted into Arri Log-C, and then using the rest of the node tree for different cameras. Then come the grading nodes, and at the very end the color transform node (from Arri Log-C back to Rec 709 2.4). As far as I remember Toni Dae is doing something similar. Having the project color space completely in in Arri Log-C forces the color wheels to behave conform with the chosen color space, delivering consistent results across the whole node tree.
This is a great video Spencer and as a recent S5 user I found out the same about shadows and didn't knew that I should actually be "exploding" the whites and save shadows. I was doing the same as you and I also got a little frustrated at first. My first thought was to start using HLG, which is what I used in my past jobs. But now I'll just go for your advice instead and give it a shot. Thanks a lot
Cool video ;-) and indeed , you have to slightly "over expose " your image when shooting V-log , we commonly called this " exposing to the right " in regards with the histogram that will then bring all the image spectra to the right of the histogram, personally I also prefer to use the waveform.
thank you for the advises. I feel ready now to shoot my first proper v-log video...as I completely f..cked up my video yesterday based on everything we shouldn't do in v-log mode. SO thank you!
I have a GH6 now. COimng from my GH5... For GH5 It seemed lile everyone was using CineD profile but a tweaded version. Cut the sharpness and contrast and Sat. Do you use CineD untweaked or do you tweak it on your lumix.
I never used Vlog but I am interested. Thanks for your helpful Input. What about white Balance. Do I the regular white balance like in natural oder standard profile?
Thank you, that was really helpful! (Actually, I don't even own the camera yet but currently saving for it, I just watch a lot of videos about it so that I'm prepared for it when I have it😂)
If you're shooting in low light situations, you'll want to take advantage of the S5's native ISO of 4000. Other than that, keep your aperture open to avoid getting a noisy image
In all honesty, nobody, no client would care about that so called noise on that tiny little frame in the picture. You guys are overstating too much how important these things are. That is what Sony fan boys studio armchair videographers are doing. Lumix people should just go out and film and be creative and have fun. Any camera of nowadays outshines in most regards the best cameras from 10 years ago. So what, 10 years ago we were thinking that everything that we look at is crappy?
- set your zebra's to 95% Then it is easy to see where highlight clipping will occur.
- Use the monitoring lut in the camera to get a good idea of what the image will look like when applying a conversion to rec709. If the preview looks good, it means you can get the final image after grading to look even better than that.
- Avoid shooting at ISO 2000-3200. These are noisier than the higher ISO's. If you need to shoot at such levels, go straight to ISO 4000 or higher.
- When grading, use a proper color space conversion (transform or lut) as your first step. Your color grade controls will likely expect certain color primaries and a gamma corrected image, which the vlog recording isn't, so they might behave a bit odd on uncorrected vlog footage.
- Shadows should look darker after grading, not brighter (when comparing the footage before applying any color conversions or preview luts). If you need to brighten shadows, you underexposed the image.
This is great! Thank you Michael
Very nit-picky but you should (at least in resolve) put the color space transform to the last node so you have more information to work with in the nodes before that
@@Zentrify Good point, converting to rec709 might clip colors which you can't recover after that. I myself actually prefer an ACES workflow. So with an IDT you first convert to an ACEScc or ACEScct colorspace in which you perform the grade on a 32 bit timeline and then upon export (and for preview) use an ODT to convert to rec709 (or REC2020). I'm using Vegas Pro myself which doesn't have color space transforms as such, I'm sure Resolve supports ACES aswell.
Also worth to add - as this is something I learned recently - why vlog needs conversion to rec709. This is because vlog is acquisition color space and rec709 is display color space. There are some videos on UA-cam where you can get more info about it ( for example "WHY Your Vlog Colors Look Bad and How to Fix It!" by Tony Dea).
What conversion lut do you use?
Thank you for this. I am a true beginner in all things S5 (photography/filming) and I like your point of view and mindset. I have much to learn but you explained this well. I’ve subscribed to your channel. Thank you! I also like your calmness. So many UA-cams of howtos the person explaining is so hyper or goes so quickly it’s overwhelming.
I really enjoy the Gamut V-log conversion LUT as a starting point
You need to apply a conversion lut or do a colourspace transform before you apply any creative luts! V-log colourspace is BT.2020 while all sort of screens are rec.709, so you are not properly seeing the colours of the camera.
Thank you! I'll look into that for sure
Exposing brighter in v-log is something I'm still getting used to, but it's knowledge that absolutely should be dispersed. Great tip on the waveform, I'm going to practice using that more starting now.
Nice! V-Log has such a beautiful look 😍😍😍
Nice job... concise, informative and to the point
Thanks Dan! Glad you liked it
Nice video. Re color grading, I have figured out a quite powerful node tree for V-Log (S1H): I set the complete project color space on Davinci Resolve to Arri Log C and the output space to Rec709 2.4. Arri Log-C is famous for its wide gammut and a very nice highlight roll off. I have a very first node for gentle NR which I can toggle on and off as required, then follows the node with the conversion from V-log into Arri Log C which can be either a color transform node from Davinci Resolve or (which I prefer in the meanwhile) a node with the plugin CineMatch. CineMatch allows also to transform FilmicPro Log-2 shot on an iPhone 12+ to be converted into Arri Log-C, and then using the rest of the node tree for different cameras. Then come the grading nodes, and at the very end the color transform node (from Arri Log-C back to Rec 709 2.4). As far as I remember Toni Dae is doing something similar. Having the project color space completely in in Arri Log-C forces the color wheels to behave conform with the chosen color space, delivering consistent results across the whole node tree.
Thank you so much for the fantastic tips on exposure. I am subbed!
I wake up on a Saturday... And I get a gift. Thanks, bro.
Haha hope this helps Phil
keep up this good work, it's interesting and educational
This is a great video Spencer and as a recent S5 user I found out the same about shadows and didn't knew that I should actually be "exploding" the whites and save shadows. I was doing the same as you and I also got a little frustrated at first. My first thought was to start using HLG, which is what I used in my past jobs. But now I'll just go for your advice instead and give it a shot. Thanks a lot
Cool video ;-) and indeed , you have to slightly "over expose " your image when shooting V-log , we commonly called this " exposing to the right " in regards with the histogram that will then bring all the image spectra to the right of the histogram, personally I also prefer to use the waveform.
Got some Danny Gevirtz vibe from your style! Love the video, keep it up!
Appreciate the compliment Alex! I love Danny's work, thanks!
thank you for the advises. I feel ready now to shoot my first proper v-log video...as I completely f..cked up my video yesterday based on everything we shouldn't do in v-log mode. SO thank you!
This is exactly what i was struggling with.. thank you 🙏
I have a GH6 now. COimng from my GH5... For GH5 It seemed lile everyone was using CineD profile but a tweaded version. Cut the sharpness and contrast and Sat. Do you use CineD untweaked or do you tweak it on your lumix.
Thanks alot for this
I never used Vlog but I am interested. Thanks for your helpful Input. What about white Balance. Do I the regular white balance like in natural oder standard profile?
Thank you, that was really helpful! (Actually, I don't even own the camera yet but currently saving for it, I just watch a lot of videos about it so that I'm prepared for it when I have it😂)
Well done ! You are on the right track with your chanal.
Thanks Magnus!
Keep up the great work with the Panasonic S5 Spencer
Thanks, will do!
Hey there I’m new subscriber. Great tip thanks for sharing.
Good stuff. Thank you.
tysm!!
Good video dude. Thanks
This is a very good explanation my S5 friend :) greetings from Germany I use also my Lumix S5 for UA-cam and for my Professionell Work :) Great Video
Thanks Paul! Keep making quality stuff
This is quality stuff.
- Allen 😘
This video shoot with s5? Or something else?
Do you shot this video in v-log? s5?
Hi,
did you use S5 also for shoting this video? I have problem to get such a stable skin tone with S5.
Thank you.
Yeah I filmed this with the S5. I suggest working with your white balance to get the best out of camera results
@@spencerfackrell Thank you a lot for your answer. You opened me an oportunity just by knowing that it's possible to get such a result.
Very best!
I'm in awe of your skin tone in this video. It's pretty much perfect, which is not easy to achieve no matter how well you white balance!
🔥
Nice video ! Does it also apply for low light in v log ?
If you're shooting in low light situations, you'll want to take advantage of the S5's native ISO of 4000. Other than that, keep your aperture open to avoid getting a noisy image
@@spencerfackrell thanks for the tips
Nick Driftwood says in his video about how to expose v-log it should be around 42% IRE...
In all honesty, nobody, no client would care about that so called noise on that tiny little frame in the picture. You guys are overstating too much how important these things are. That is what Sony fan boys studio armchair videographers are doing. Lumix people should just go out and film and be creative and have fun. Any camera of nowadays outshines in most regards the best cameras from 10 years ago. So what, 10 years ago we were thinking that everything that we look at is crappy?