It's a good gun but not as good as the bitch , also Maya can increase its slow projectile speed and although it does good body damage it does weaker critical hit damage which in uvhm you want to be doing only critical shots if possible
The Actualizer is actually absolutely fine, and it's a hell of a lot easier to farm than the Bitch. Considering you can buy it in a seraph vendor, you can make sure you can get ones with good parts and prefixes, which would take days and days with the Bitch. Maybe one day I'll get a good Bitch, but until then, my arsenal of Actualizers in all elements will serve me well.
It gets way too much hate. Is it as good as the bitch? No. Is it bad and worthy of being on a top 5 list just because it's worse than its legendary counterpart? Fuck no. It's definitely usable and can do a lot of work even in OP levels.
Star_Chasm - Thanks for not being an idiot. I love how in the video, he says the Actualizer sucks, and then proceeds to wreck everything on the map while reloading only like 2-3 times. The Actualizer does not suck at all - it is in fact what I would consider to be one of the better SMGs in the game. It is just outclassed by the Bitch because of the Bitch's critical hit modifier. So the Actualizer is not as good as the Sand Hawk or Tattler, which are the 2 on the top tier in my book, and probably not as good as a Hyperion PC or the Bitch (which are on tier 2), but absent those 4 or so, it is better than most other SMGs that come to mind. If you cannot get a Bitch in the element you want, the Actualizer is waaaaay more than good enough, and is very close to as good as the Bitch, excepting the crit modifier. It still wrecks things, especially as Maya with a Cat COM.
+VinylicPumaGaming Speaking of that movie, Ada m Sandler's version is absolutely the best. Also, Borderlands 1, which company produced that one SMG that was described as being "the ultimate close quarters feline"?
You need to do a Best Bolt-Actions list. It would be good to know which bolt-actions do not suck as much as others. (I'm guessing the Trespasser would be good.)
puma , think about that: if the actualizer had more crit damage and better acuarcy, it would completely outclass the bitch. so gearbox thought "well lets make it a sister weapon in the type of use, but make it completely different
the invader was an amazing sniper in BL1, I have only two invaders, one is nonelemental, and the other is shock, and I really want an explosive one. They only came with x2 elemental damage, but they are great, and with the ammo regen. class modes, these snipers are just OP.
The Fremington's Edge beats out the Invader, in terms of being a BOWTLOWD OF AYISSS! by a lot. At least the Invader can kill things in a reasonable amount of time.
You need to farm seraph guardians (dlc raid bosses) for the crystals to buy the damn thing. Even then you need to be in UVHM to get the crystals and thr raid bosses drop about 10 crystals per kill. So the Bitch is better in that regard too.
+Herpderp Shepard Come on, anyone can kill Pyro Pete for Seraph crystals. I killed Pyro Pete as Krieg with nothing but a white roid shield I found off a psycho and a slag grenade XD.
I remember i used to have the most fun in BL2 at level 61 running the Actualizer. I was a Maya with a great Witch Class mod using a corrosive Infection and Actualizer, Fire Lead storm and Shock Interfacer. I don't know why but I loved Seraph weapons
i don't see the problem with burst fire guns myself...sure, you use more ammo per trigger pull, but you put enemies down fast. and it helps on a really high fire rate weapon to conserve a bit of ammo anyway
Invader: Low level one can get easy critical acsension stacks (Zer0) Commerce and Actualizer: Just below average SMGs Bane: Troll weapon Logan's Gun: Free rocket w/ The Sham Not bad Hyperion, not bad.
the actualizer is actually really good on hellborn krieg. The higher base damage and lowered crit is no problem considering that krieg already lowers crit damage to increase base damage. It ends up being able to shred through flesh enemies fairly well. The invader is also good against loaders using zero, because the hyperion accuracy it fires on where you aim very well. Lyuda and pimpernel are for sure much better, but then again there is no bad legendary or unique snipers (the patriot does not suck it just is not that good, check out molmf's does it suck video if you want reasoning why). fermingtons edge should be number one on this list though, a blue rarity unique hyperion sniper with a massively zoomed in scope. Normal hyperion snipers suck because low fire rate and bad accuracy for the first shot.
the issue with the invader question is variety- personally, I like to have as many weapons as possible that I can viably use at higher levels as it makes the game feel less shallow. This is why I wish there were a way to transfer uniques and legendaries from the tps into 2 and vice versa.
You have a problem with the burst fire on the Invader? The recoil is so ridiculously low I didn't think anyone would have a problem with it because of the Hyperion reverse recoil gimmick
I personally think that if the logins gun actually could hit people instead of shooting people's feet and a damage buff the logans gun wouldn't be half bad
If you use 2 banes with Salvador and you will shake even more, it's going to be louder and you will get also slower than with only one. Try it out for yourself totally not worth it.
Anne M. I find hyperion guns to be the top tier weapons(lady fist, bee, interfacer,) but i just wish they didn't come from a company that wants to destroy/dominate the entire galaxy.
NightRunner It's not that they suck, it's just that there are better choices in the long run. None of these weapons are really bad (except for the bane). I think he sort of made that point in the beginning, but whatever.
#1: Literally every non-unique Hyperion sniper from Borderlands 2. This is because the Hyperion special effect doesn´t do anything on them because of the small magazine size and the low rate of fire. These things are utterly useless most of the time and even worse while hipfiring for example during fight for your life. This is really sad since they have really good raw dmg and are somewhat supposed to replace the awsome snipers made by Atlas in the first game but really, don´t pick this things up, get a Vladof droog or Maliwan snider instead, both are just wayyyyy more usefull....
Everybody will add Fremington's Edge, becouse it's lack of damage. For people who likes Invader, I'll just say, I like it too, but it still eats ammo too fast for not that great damage per shot, it only procs better. It's better to use some dahl sniper rifle instead. And if you like Hyperion sniper rifles better, just get Competition sniper rifle.
Imagine if in Borderlands 3 they made a full auto sniper that wasn't Vladoff or Maliwan manufacture? That is to say, full auto and fast fire rate. Plus that, it's either Unique, Legendary, or Pearlescent? Would the Invader be so bad then?
Well only Jakobs and Dahl aren't fullauto. I'll say you this Invader was better in BL1 and it still wasted ammo. I only want it to have less bourst or to cost less ammo while burst firing, kinda like Butcher. Anyway that gun you've just mentioned full auto and fast fire rate was Dahls Legendary Penetrator, it's five times better then Invader. Comparing max damage of these two with best gunparts available it goes like this. Inavder 600+ damage(-100% damage +500% burst count) vs Penetrator 1000+ damage (No damage penalty + 400% fire rate). They have same fire rate, but with in Penetrators case you can actualy control how many shot's you can fire at enemy, I mean you have allways 5xshot with Inavder, but with Penetrator you can shot from 1-10 rounds. Tell me which one should have be in next Borderlands?
i think the actualizer is pretty good. btw i have killed the bunker at least 30 or 40 times and still don't have the bitch so i dont know how much better it is than the actualizer.
The Actualizer has one of the best skins thou,The Bitch and this gun need to swap their skins. *The sexy skin for the good gun and the not do cool skin for the bad gun.*
Saying that a weapon (in this case the Invader) is bad, just because it isn't as good as the best (Lyuda, Pimpernel, Machine...), is honestly really stupid. Would you say that a Hyperion Plasma Caster is bad because the Sand Hawk, the Tattler and the Bitch are bettet? I really don't think you would.
how in the world do you rate the fremingtons edge better than the invader....? one of these snipers deals damage and kills. the other one has one use which is a pair of binoculars, but then again the hawk eye is much better at doing the only thing the fremingtons edge's only useful thing. anyway my list: 5: shotgun 1304 4: commerce 3: bane 2: logans gun 1: fremingtons edge
The Actualizer is bad only when compared to the bitch. And let's be honest, most guns are in that way. But on it's own, the Actualizer is pretty good. Especialy with the community patch. And to say that Invader is bad, well, that is a matter of opinion. Cryo invader is actualy my go-to sniper for cryo-sniper Aurelia. Due to the fast burst of critical hits on frozen enemies, it basicaly makes my action skill stay activated until everything in the room is dead.
Twined Zombie he made it look good because it is i think it actually out classes the bitch if you arent great at hitting crits and is about equal dps when critting
Ugh... The Bane is the bane of Borderlands 2. Hands down. It's annoying to listen to, it's inaccurate as hell, and it slows you to a crawl when moving. Need I say more?
I was playing Bl2 today and i was doing tinny tina assault on dragons keep quest and i killed two treeants and both of them droped the bee,is this common or was i just wery lucky?(sorry for my bad English)
Could it be that im the only one who doesnt hate the bane? Dont get me wrong, it isnt good but its a funny idea from the developers to troll the player
the nasty surprise is actually a very good grenade, it's just not the best. It is only considered bad because if you get it as a drop from verm you are disappointed.
I got three white deaths for my lvl 20 gunzerker should I a throw them away or b beat the entire game with them YES EVEN ULTIMATE AND TRUE VAULT HUNTER MODE
*Sees bane* How dare you, I actually played the whole game with it once I got it (it was torture, and I now have the respect of my friend(but in all seriousness, it’s not a bad gun, just annoying))
Only the Bane was bad in this video and it is also one of the facts makes this game funny. Commerce was ok tho. And you wrecked those enemies with actualizer and invader. Logans gun gives your norfleet infinite ammo. So what ?
The Actualiser is by far the most underrated SMG in the game.
Like Puma, you must've never tried it on Krieg.
"Number 3, The Actualizer" *Shows footage of op 8 bullymongs getting annihilated
It's a good gun but not as good as the bitch , also Maya can increase its slow projectile speed and although it does good body damage it does weaker critical hit damage which in uvhm you want to be doing only critical shots if possible
@@boxerheadninja4281 the actualized does actually slightly more damage on critical that wrong.
@@grandduelslover3055 I meant it does weaker critical hit damage than the bitch
@@boxerheadninja4281 it actually does more the actualizer actually does about 10% more damage on crits that the batch go test.
@@grandduelslover3055
Bro stfu you are younger than the wii
*sees him mention the bane*
*lowers volume*
I did not get to it in time i'm -using- was using earbuds
*hears the bane*
*turns volume to maximum*
@@firey180 Your Ears Seem To Be Masochists
The Actualizer is actually absolutely fine, and it's a hell of a lot easier to farm than the Bitch. Considering you can buy it in a seraph vendor, you can make sure you can get ones with good parts and prefixes, which would take days and days with the Bitch. Maybe one day I'll get a good Bitch, but until then, my arsenal of Actualizers in all elements will serve me well.
It gets way too much hate. Is it as good as the bitch? No. Is it bad and worthy of being on a top 5 list just because it's worse than its legendary counterpart? Fuck no. It's definitely usable and can do a lot of work even in OP levels.
Star_Chasm Pfft. "Good Bitch"...
Star_Chasm - Thanks for not being an idiot. I love how in the video, he says the Actualizer sucks, and then proceeds to wreck everything on the map while reloading only like 2-3 times. The Actualizer does not suck at all - it is in fact what I would consider to be one of the better SMGs in the game. It is just outclassed by the Bitch because of the Bitch's critical hit modifier. So the Actualizer is not as good as the Sand Hawk or Tattler, which are the 2 on the top tier in my book, and probably not as good as a Hyperion PC or the Bitch (which are on tier 2), but absent those 4 or so, it is better than most other SMGs that come to mind. If you cannot get a Bitch in the element you want, the Actualizer is waaaaay more than good enough, and is very close to as good as the Bitch, excepting the crit modifier. It still wrecks things, especially as Maya with a Cat COM.
the reload speed kinda sucks I got a actualizer with 6.7 sec reload speed
Hello you can only gevit in uvhm as you can only get crystals by defeating raid bosses
Struggling to find bad Hyperion weapons?
IMPRESSIVE
I figured i'd take it easy on the Longest Yard. It is a little underwhelming though.
+VinylicPumaGaming Speaking of that movie, Ada m Sandler's version is absolutely the best.
Also, Borderlands 1, which company produced that one SMG that was described as being "the ultimate close quarters feline"?
+VinylicPumaGaming Can you answer a question for me?
Dahl made the Wildcat...
KingRat543 ah, so it was the Wildcat, huh? So glad that piece of crap didn't carry over!
You need to do a Best Bolt-Actions list. It would be good to know which bolt-actions do not suck as much as others.
(I'm guessing the Trespasser would be good.)
the trespasser is horrible... flat out bad...
I would say off the top of my head that the godfinger is the best but it is still kinda bad.
The trespasser is good for vorac too, for the chief.
worry nut ehat neans Bolt actio?
@@maximumfedoratip5614 and with saly for voracidous chief ???????
vinylicpumagaming I love ur vids they cheer me up when I'm sad
Me myself wouldn't put the Actualizer above the Commerce. I feel like I'm trying to kill a wolf with a butter knife using the Commerce.
Lousy crit damage seemed to do alot to that bullymong without a magic missile
says the actualizer is bad.
wrecks with it
He was fighting weak enemies that are weak to fire.
Fury still.
Diogo Silva Marques de Paula No, not still. It doesn't wreck with anything else.
Fury still. it kills things. that's what matters.
not gonna continue this argument. it's not gonna go anywhere.
The Actualizer has a normal (x2).criticsl hit modifier, not a 'lousy' one.
Could you imagine not only holding the Bane, but while equipped with the Fabled Tortoise shield?
I have done that as an op8 playthrough. It was pain but an oddly fun challange. I did run a mod that reduces the banes audio by 80%
puma , think about that: if the actualizer had more crit damage and better acuarcy, it would completely outclass the bitch. so gearbox thought "well lets make it a sister weapon in the type of use, but make it completely different
the invader was an amazing sniper in BL1, I have only two invaders, one is nonelemental, and the other is shock, and I really want an explosive one. They only came with x2 elemental damage, but they are great, and with the ammo regen. class modes, these snipers are just OP.
The Fremington's Edge beats out the Invader, in terms of being a BOWTLOWD OF AYISSS! by a lot. At least the Invader can kill things in a reasonable amount of time.
Frederick X. Plus the Invader has Burst Fire right?
The actualizer is a pretty good gun, it's just a weaker version of the bitch, but the bitch is such a top tier SMG that it retains some of that power.
It also is much easier to farm for just buy the actuallizer
You need to farm seraph guardians (dlc raid bosses) for the crystals to buy the damn thing. Even then you need to be in UVHM to get the crystals and thr raid bosses drop about 10 crystals per kill. So the Bitch is better in that regard too.
+Herpderp Shepard Come on, anyone can kill Pyro Pete for Seraph crystals. I killed Pyro Pete as Krieg with nothing but a white roid shield I found off a psycho and a slag grenade XD.
true, bnk-3r has way too many drops
Great videos man! Been watching this series of top 5's and 10's for a while keep up the good work your awesome !
I remember i used to have the most fun in BL2 at level 61 running the Actualizer. I was a Maya with a great Witch Class mod using a corrosive Infection and Actualizer, Fire Lead storm and Shock Interfacer.
I don't know why but I loved Seraph weapons
i don't see the problem with burst fire guns myself...sure, you use more ammo per trigger pull, but you put enemies down fast. and it helps on a really high fire rate weapon to conserve a bit of ammo anyway
I like the actulaizer with maya
u must be self harming type
+უწმინდური მამაო ღორმენ Why? Actualizer=The Bitch. There isnt much of a difference. If you want something different, use the Actualizer.
+The Average UA-cam User its not as good as the bitch
+DaBloodsploder Krieg It is.
+The Average UA-cam User it has lower fire rate and worse accuracy
The invader chews up ammo for very sub par damage.
Im super glad you're growing :) been subbed since 2k subs, love your borderlands content.
yeah he is growing hella fast i subed at like 5k roughly its fun to watch
Invader: Low level one can get easy critical acsension stacks (Zer0)
Commerce and Actualizer: Just below average SMGs
Bane: Troll weapon
Logan's Gun: Free rocket w/ The Sham
Not bad Hyperion, not bad.
i like that you said that the Actualizer's Sister is The Bitch if you said "is a Bitch" it whould be too Comedic
the actualizer is actually really good on hellborn krieg. The higher base damage and lowered crit is no problem considering that krieg already lowers crit damage to increase base damage. It ends up being able to shred through flesh enemies fairly well. The invader is also good against loaders using zero, because the hyperion accuracy it fires on where you aim very well. Lyuda and pimpernel are for sure much better, but then again there is no bad legendary or unique snipers (the patriot does not suck it just is not that good, check out molmf's does it suck video if you want reasoning why). fermingtons edge should be number one on this list though, a blue rarity unique hyperion sniper with a massively zoomed in scope. Normal hyperion snipers suck because low fire rate and bad accuracy for the first shot.
You know a gun manufacturer is great when 3 of the 5 Worst guns they make are still very usable.
love this and the fact that there are no new guns from tps on this list
The BANE is OP
Lengend_ yourbud bruh
It really is
the *B A N E* of my existence
"The actualizer is bad"
Proceeds to two shot monglets
the issue with the invader question is variety- personally, I like to have as many weapons as possible that I can viably use at higher levels as it makes the game feel less shallow. This is why I wish there were a way to transfer uniques and legendaries from the tps into 2 and vice versa.
You have a problem with the burst fire on the Invader? The recoil is so ridiculously low I didn't think anyone would have a problem with it because of the Hyperion reverse recoil gimmick
I personally think that if the logins gun actually could hit people instead of shooting people's feet and a damage buff the logans gun wouldn't be half bad
For sure what vinylicpuma said about the bane i agree is the WORST hyperion wepon in the game
Logans gun works very well with blister krieg and double shot relic as a main weapon.
Man, if you use the bane with divergent likeness and the grog nozzle, it's awesome, until the screaming gets to u
5:18 thnx for not saying it lol my mom walked in the moment you almost say it xd
If you use 2 banes with Salvador and you will shake even more, it's going to be louder and you will get also slower than with only one. Try it out for yourself totally not worth it.
Handsome jack wanted a company to be strong with their guns yet some are the worst like the logan's gun, i think that was meant for shamfleeting only.
Anne M. I find hyperion guns to be the top tier weapons(lady fist, bee, interfacer,) but i just wish they didn't come from a company that wants to destroy/dominate the entire galaxy.
Actualizer is great and slightly out-DPS the Bitch. The problem is accuracy that's why I prefer Bitch
Srsly? Invader and actualizer does not suck. They kill things quick.
NightRunner
It's not that they suck, it's just that there are better choices in the long run. None of these weapons are really bad (except for the bane). I think he sort of made that point in the beginning, but whatever.
one departed If you are gonna think the game that way, go farm some fucking dpuh's with Torgue grip and you are good to go.
The Commerce could have been a Shock version of the HellFire.
replace the invader with the nasty surprise, remove the actualizer and you are good.
Between the bitch and the actualizer the actualizer is better if you don't go for crits that much but really it all boils down to personal preference.
#1: Literally every non-unique Hyperion sniper from Borderlands 2. This is because the Hyperion special effect doesn´t do anything on them because of the small magazine size and the low rate of fire. These things are utterly useless most of the time and even worse while hipfiring for example during fight for your life. This is really sad since they have really good raw dmg and are somewhat supposed to replace the awsome snipers made by Atlas in the first game but really, don´t pick this things up, get a Vladof droog or Maliwan snider instead, both are just wayyyyy more usefull....
I honestly like the actualizer
Mmmmm..... gotta disagree with you on number 1, because the Logan's Gun actually has a use, unlike the bane.
No Fremmington's Edge? It's the lowest DPS unique sniper out there
Invador - Why It's bad? Cause It's as good as BEST (extremly op) snipers in the game. Well, that's a thing? :v
The bane is actually alright though you just switch to another weapon move and use it because it has good damage and accuracy
+Random Guy I know it's just I don't think the bane is complete crap
please do a top 5 underrated character and top 5 underrated skills?
well the actualizer is a scarlets booty dlc seraph weapon and all of these have slow projectiles but good damage
Everybody will add Fremington's Edge, becouse it's lack of damage. For people who likes Invader, I'll just say, I like it too, but it still eats ammo too fast for not that great damage per shot, it only procs better. It's better to use some dahl sniper rifle instead. And if you like Hyperion sniper rifles better, just get Competition sniper rifle.
Imagine if in Borderlands 3 they made a full auto sniper that wasn't Vladoff or Maliwan manufacture? That is to say, full auto and fast fire rate. Plus that, it's either Unique, Legendary, or Pearlescent? Would the Invader be so bad then?
Well only Jakobs and Dahl aren't fullauto. I'll say you this Invader was better in BL1 and it still wasted ammo. I only want it to have less bourst or to cost less ammo while burst firing, kinda like Butcher.
Anyway that gun you've just mentioned full auto and fast fire rate was Dahls Legendary Penetrator, it's five times better then Invader. Comparing max damage of these two with best gunparts available it goes like this. Inavder 600+ damage(-100% damage +500% burst count) vs Penetrator 1000+ damage (No damage penalty + 400% fire rate). They have same fire rate, but with in Penetrators case you can actualy control how many shot's you can fire at enemy, I mean you have allways 5xshot with Inavder, but with Penetrator you can shot from 1-10 rounds. Tell me which one should have be in next Borderlands?
I kill Hyperious with the Actualizer all the time *shrugs*
i think the actualizer is pretty good. btw i have killed the bunker at least 30 or 40 times and still don't have the bitch so i dont know how much better it is than the actualizer.
Puma, would you rather have e-tech weapons in bl3 or eridian guns?
The Bane triggers my PTSD
The Actualizer has one of the best skins thou,The Bitch and this gun need to swap their skins.
*The sexy skin for the good gun and the not do cool skin for the bad gun.*
When I saw title of the video I knew Bane will be on the list however I'm actually surprised that It's not on the n1 spot xd.
The Bane is absolute shit. Annoying noises when firing, slow moving while in hand. I rather have a headache than having the bane.
The Actulizer is not a bad gun! Yes, the Bitch is more accurate than it. However, the Actulizer does mare damage.
Saying that a weapon (in this case the Invader) is bad, just because it isn't as good as the best (Lyuda, Pimpernel, Machine...), is honestly really stupid. Would you say that a Hyperion Plasma Caster is bad because the Sand Hawk, the Tattler and the Bitch are bettet? I really don't think you would.
how in the world do you rate the fremingtons edge better than the invader....? one of these snipers deals damage and kills. the other one has one use which is a pair of binoculars, but then again the hawk eye is much better at doing the only thing the fremingtons edge's only useful thing.
anyway my list:
5: shotgun 1304
4: commerce
3: bane
2: logans gun
1: fremingtons edge
shotgun 1304 sucks at higher levels, but is still nice at lower levels luckily.
The Actualizer is bad only when compared to the bitch. And let's be honest, most guns are in that way. But on it's own, the Actualizer is pretty good. Especialy with the community patch. And to say that Invader is bad, well, that is a matter of opinion. Cryo invader is actualy my go-to sniper for cryo-sniper Aurelia. Due to the fast burst of critical hits on frozen enemies, it basicaly makes my action skill stay activated until everything in the room is dead.
well yeah there are also some horrible non unique hyperion weapons recoil,damage and acuracy is horrible in some non unique
Damn you made the actualizer look good (the reload speed kills it for me tbh) bit can you get it from one of the sereph vendors?
Twined Zombie he made it look good because it is i think it actually out classes the bitch if you arent great at hitting crits and is about equal dps when critting
Actualizer is my new favourite smg in the game, just as good as the bitch and it won't take me 500 hours to get it in all elements.
Hyperion Sniper Rifles in general.
I think the bane is voiced by the girl that voices tiny tina.
The bane, my old friend in an other worst top list
1. The Bane WHAT 2.?! The first must be terrible. The logans should be 2.
I once made a BL2 bane playthrough. The gun isn't that bad if it comes to killing things.
imagine how badass it was standing in open area surrounded by a badass bandit while holding the bane
I had to turn on captions at the bane part
*sees him mention the bane*
*highers volume*
Is the best/worse Torgue weapons coming?
Ugh... The Bane is the bane of Borderlands 2. Hands down. It's annoying to listen to, it's inaccurate as hell, and it slows you to a crawl when moving. Need I say more?
I get good damage and good use fully from the loagans gun in bl 2 and I don't have a sham I use a bee
i honestly like the invader and actualizer
I was playing Bl2 today and i was doing tinny tina assault on dragons keep quest and i killed two treeants and both of them droped the bee,is this common or was i just wery lucky?(sorry for my bad English)
it is about a 9% drop rate so you had about a 1% chance for that to happen, so it is lucky.
you should go watch MoLMF does it suck on both the actualizer and the invader
Worst Hyperion Weapons: ALL Snipers. except Morningstar.
the fremington`s edge is good as well
Could it be that im the only one who doesnt hate the bane? Dont get me wrong, it isnt good but its a funny idea from the developers to troll the player
banes worst for me i would just do the quest for farming mcnally for the hammer buster
Thank god you didn't do a rage video
Fermingtons edge and nasty surprise are bad too
Fremingtons Edge is okay, it's just much better early on.
Nasty surprise should be number 1. When you get one after going all the trouble of spawning and killing Vermivorous... Dang, it's aptly named.
the nasty surprise is actually a very good grenade, it's just not the best. It is only considered bad because if you get it as a drop from verm you are disappointed.
yea Farmington should be switched with number 5
just hyperion snipers in general are crappy unless they can shoot fast
Haven’t even watched the vid but the bane is on this list isn’t it?
I got three white deaths for my lvl 20 gunzerker should I a throw them away or b beat the entire game with them YES EVEN ULTIMATE AND TRUE VAULT HUNTER MODE
edmoverlord knowing puma hed say to use those lyudas over a op 8 bunny because he cant play well enough to use bunny
Play well enough? The bunny is trash tier, even if you control it's shitty reload it still does no decent damage
Stop with the actualizer slander. How can u rank it as being worse than the commerce?
5 Best or Worst Jakobs guns please:)
all the hammerlock guns, there list is over :D
Yea Puma, keep it PG today. No cusing.
If the invader be a automatic sniper, this weapon be one of the best snipers.
It's not like the Lyuda exists, right?
how about all hyperion snipers and most hyperion smgs and all but one hyperion pistol are terrible
*Sees bane*
How dare you, I actually played the whole game with it once I got it (it was torture, and I now have the respect of my friend(but in all seriousness, it’s not a bad gun, just annoying))
It’s actually pretty good if you can stand the pain
Only the Bane was bad in this video and it is also one of the facts makes this game funny. Commerce was ok tho. And you wrecked those enemies with actualizer and invader. Logans gun gives your norfleet infinite ammo. So what ?
I haven’t watched it yet so number one is the Bane
(Edit)what?
Yeah the Logan gun sucks I got it in true vault hunter mode and it was dropped from whielham and that gun sucks
Lol, wtf, after 700h in BL2 I realised, that Invader isn't Dahl weapon
Lol
Lmao
Best/Worst Maliwan Weapons?
they should just 2x the damage of the commerce
Why do you tell us to not use weapons you think are bad? We could use it if we want if either we want to find out, or use it simply..