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That saw is circa 1979-1983. I have 3 and they aren't too bad to work on, but they are great little saws when they run properly. 31.1cc.. Look to be a Walbro HDA carb...
They are awesome chainsaws back in the old days. Not only that, Homelite, mcculloch, poulan, and Sears, and other old obsolete brands were built to last compared to the modern junk. My boss at work has a vintage Sears craftsman chainsaw that looks identical to this chainsaw, from the mid 80s and the only thing needed done was the chain needed sharpening, other than that still working after over 35 years.
i have a 14 inch one i bought in 77or 78 ran the crap out of it.. still runs great now..but they are like you said hard to work on but they had good fuel lins back then ..mine are still good
Hi DW6, I am currently working on a Homelite, maybe a couple years different. I find removing the spark arrestor ( 1 screw, no gaskets ) opens the way for the plug boot to slide right in. The plug wire on my coil comes off the TOP of the coil whereas your model has it near the bottom. Probably it was a re-design due to heat & friction wearing the wire against the jug cooling fins. These machines have a real learning / patience curve. Thanks JK
Bob- you get props from me on this one! I don't enjoy working on the 2-cyl stuff but especially those that are built to make it so time consuming to get at the "business" end of things. Super video! I like the idea of putting the saw up in the vise. I'll steal that idea!
It’s always good to snip the ends off the oiler lines also as the oil line out of the tank is pressurized and most times leak at its hose connection to the body.
I pulled one of these out of a dumpster, with the case. I've always wanted one for getting the small branches while trimming. I really like the 2 throttle triggers. They had put bar oil in the fuel tank and gas in the bar oil, ha. Got spark and it smoked for awhile but it runs great now. Kinda watched this video to find out where the low adjust screw is. All I can see is the idle and H screws.
The craftsman four stroke has its adjustment center line with the barrel. It’s under a plug to keep homeowners from messing with it. Usually a flat blade but could be double d and both are ever so small. The screw is held with lock tight from factory. You can adjust but put a drop of Locktight down the hole and move it in with the driver used for adjustment.
We have a small engine bone yard that has a 55 gallon drum FULL of chain saws and weed wackers. Home lite sold bottom of the barrel quality equipment that was sold at K- Mart. I referred to them as the bic lighter of the chain saw world. Sadly, I have the know how to repair any of those chain saws send usually do. I know most shops do not like messing with them because the repair bill equals the price of the saw when new. I don't charge much because I don't own a shop. For me it's been more of a hobby fixing those than making a living.
The carb linkage is similar on both ends but not the same. Carb end is concentric and the trigger end is more open to allow entry into trigger hole as engine is slipped into position.
I'm with you Bruce, I like working on these saws and I actually love working on ALL 2 cycle equipment. There's a fella in the neighborhood that has a bunch of weed wackers for sale for $5 each. I bought a few and got them all working in no time. But my passion is getting old chainsaws going again, fun stuff!
The only time I've ever seen a machine flood over and over again and not start after being blown out with the air nozzle, they've had bad compression or a chunk burnt off the Piston. Good luck. Maybe try the carburetor adjusting screws. Maybe see if the needle is stuck in the carb
Great fix Bob👍 I've got one just like it I need to dig into but been putting it off. It runs but by the time I get it started I'm too tired to use it...lol
I inherited one of those from my grandpa and another from my father in law years ago. Like you say they're not really worth sticking too much effort into keeping them running and really only good for limbing or light duty cutting.
I’m new at using chainsaws. I didn’t know anything about which ones are worth bothering with. I ended up buying a poolan! LOL. I watched a couple of other videos just on poulans. I opened the gap of the plug to.030”. I have to say I was pretty shocked because it fired right up. I do believe it was only set to .018”. I enjoy your videos especially since I’m just starting out using chainsaws.
I certainly like the early homelite stuff, particularly the xl-98 which was used by fire departments in the 80s, probably one of the most bulletproof saws out there right up with stihl saws, but they lost my respect after they went cheap in the late 80s.
Yep, taking the muffler off you can push the plug into where the muffler is to get the engine back in the body easier. Plus, the screw on the front that tightens the chain always gets caught on the body. You have to manuver that too at the same time as getting the spark plug wire through in the back.
Good job , those are a lot like a McCullough throw away both are a pain !! I've used that optimal opti 2 oil for over 30 years never had a break down , last 20 I've used Stens 2 cycle which is the same brand , different name . Love the stabilizer in it.
You got it to fire and run a few times, probably one of those times you could have held the throttle down till it warmed up and then adjusted the carb screws til it held an idle. I have one of these I did that to and just mess with the screws when it gets finicky.
The first side you work on when putting back together is a metering diaphragm fuel pump is on side with walboro Hardest part is putting throttle linkages
Yes they are a pain to work on, I own 2 of them. I bought them new in the mid 70's. They still run alright but you have to constantly keep the bolts tight or they will vibrate out especially the chain tension screw. You spend more time working on it than cutting firewood.🤣🤣
youre right about that, i guy dropped one off from the 70s/80s said it wouldnt start, i spent nearly 20 plus minutes trying to get to the carb and the bolts that hold it on were laying down in the case, so i had to take the whole thing apart. after putting bolts back on it fired right up.
Good fix , small ones are not always fun to work on , I'd rather work on the bigger one's, one suggestion for you would be to be careful revving them up on cold starts especially if you aren't sure where the carb is set or even if you do , it's hard on the cylinder . I always called them kinda saws throw always ! :-) good video! Big D.
The problem with the presher tester is the release is on the bottom you have to be careful how you put it down you don't release the presher I have 1 I use all the time I am a stihl mechanic
I bought a craftsman version of this (rebranded homelite) for $25. The y told me it worked if you put fuel directly in the cylinder. I worked on it a bunch and never got it to start. I took the engine apart and found the piston and cylinder were scored. So, I just trashed it. Wasn't going to put any more money in it
I have my dad's super 2 that I'm trying to get going. Can anyone tell me if these are supposed to have 6 or 7 tooth chain sprockets. All the manuals/parts diagrams I've found online show 6 teeth. The one I have has 7 teeth. The chain binds part way around. So I'm guessing soneone at some point changed the sprocket or put the wrong pitch chain on. The sprocket is worn anyways and was thinking I might pay $22 for a new 6 tooth sprocket.
Check and see if the coil is rusty, use sand paper to clean. Check the flywheel to se if its rusty cand to clean. Dont wear your arm cranking on the dam thing. Also the coil could be bad. Be safe. Peace.
A flexible diaphragm forms one side of the fuel chamber and is arranged so that as fuel is drawn out into the engine, the diaphragm is forced inward by ambient air pressure. ... As fuel is replenished the diaphragm moves out due to fuel pressure and a small spring, closing the needle valve. not a gasket lol
hmmm? take out high and low screws spray carb cleaner in the with the red straw off course. just to see if it cleans out that way. may get luck and not have to take the whole darn thing apart?? DARN ok just got to part where filter is broken off. looks like a complete tear down anyways.
I have found that carb cleaner destroys the diaphragm immediately on old equipment. I used to order gasket kits but now I just order another carburetor. I work on these as a hobby. Most small engine places will not even work on those older chain saws. They were never worth much anyways. I compared them to a bic lighter.
those older chainsaws are a pita to work on, newer ones arent the greatest quality but a little easier to access parts, lately i tell people no 2 strokes. btw, i have 4 homelite saws in my shed, the best one is about 15 years old but the brake melted, one sucked the sponge air filter into the engine (brilliant idea) the other 2 are older and have been sitting for years, then i have an echo hedge trimmer, a stihl edger, 3 stihl weed trimmers ive trashed picked or been gifted in the past couple months, i just cant seem to get back into working on 2 strokes anymore, they are frustrating and poorly built.
Right, my super 2 has a little metal piece that keeps the foam away from the carb hole, keeps it from getting pulled in. I didn't see it on this one. My big saw is a homelite C9.
These saws have issues with the screws and the threads crumbling. The vibration crystallizes the threads in the screw holes and it just breaks off. Requiring either heli-coils to fix or jb weld or similar and re-thread the holes. The use of the 10/32 thread is to fine of thread and there is no amount of material between each thread to be strong enough. A10/24 would have been better.
What a PIB job! They are not designed to be repaired! I would have tossed it in the trash. You have a lot of patience! At least the challenge was met and knowledge was gained!
Heroic effort, I still own and use the first saw I ever bought, a circa 93 husquavarna 257, probably cost 4 times as much as this new, but definitely a case of buy once, cry once.
There is he just forgot to put it back in, they sit in that little nest on top of the carburetor. Should have put a new one on since the old one started to disintegrate while he was taking the saw apart.
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Yes sir these saws and the little mcculloch's were a pain in the butt to work on, i feel for you.
I have a Homelite on my work bench right now waiting for service.
That saw is circa 1979-1983. I have 3 and they aren't too bad to work on, but they are great little saws when they run properly. 31.1cc.. Look to be a Walbro HDA carb...
They are awesome chainsaws back in the old days. Not only that, Homelite, mcculloch, poulan, and Sears, and other old obsolete brands were built to last compared to the modern junk. My boss at work has a vintage Sears craftsman chainsaw that looks identical to this chainsaw, from the mid 80s and the only thing needed done was the chain needed sharpening, other than that still working after over 35 years.
One of the easiest saws to work on.
... said no one.
i love it too
@@danburch9989 sorry to hear that someone said that to you. it stings.
take care
i have a 14 inch one i bought in 77or 78 ran the crap out of it.. still runs great now..but they are like you said hard to work on but they had good fuel lins back then ..mine are still good
Yes,we all hate working on them but they never die!
I agree 😊
Excellent video, I share your frustration with Homelite saws.. a PITA... to work on
that pressure test on the needle and seat was nifty, looks like a nice tester
Been wrestling with an XL2 the past few days. She finally fired up tonight after flipping the reed valve. Great stuff, doublewide!
I love my homelite saws there dependable they never give up spark
Hi DW6, I am currently working on a Homelite, maybe a couple years different. I find removing the spark arrestor ( 1 screw, no gaskets ) opens the way for the plug boot to slide right in. The plug wire on my coil comes off the TOP of the coil whereas your model has it near the bottom. Probably it was a re-design due to heat & friction wearing the wire against the jug cooling fins. These machines have a real learning / patience curve. Thanks JK
It is funny how you find something on the side of the road and looks verry clean saw
Bob- you get props from me on this one! I don't enjoy working on the 2-cyl stuff but especially those that are built to make it so time consuming to get at the "business" end of things. Super video! I like the idea of putting the saw up in the vise. I'll steal that idea!
It’s always good to snip the ends off the oiler lines also as the oil line out of the tank is pressurized and most times leak at its hose connection to the body.
I pulled one of these out of a dumpster, with the case. I've always wanted one for getting the small branches while trimming. I really like the 2 throttle triggers. They had put bar oil in the fuel tank and gas in the bar oil, ha.
Got spark and it smoked for awhile but it runs great now. Kinda watched this video to find out where the low adjust screw is. All I can see is the idle and H screws.
The craftsman four stroke has its adjustment center line with the barrel. It’s under a plug to keep homeowners from messing with it. Usually a flat blade but could be double d and both are ever so small. The screw is held with lock tight from factory. You can adjust but put a drop of Locktight down the hole and move it in with the driver used for adjustment.
I have an XL-12 model I inherited from my late father in law… he saw me coming from the great beyond…. P i t a machine to fix and start… nice video✊🏾😊
Remember these saws are between 40 and 50 years old, most need a good carb cleaning and kit plus the check valve..
We have a small engine bone yard that has a 55 gallon drum FULL of chain saws and weed wackers. Home lite sold bottom of the barrel quality equipment that was sold at K- Mart. I referred to them as the bic lighter of the chain saw world. Sadly, I have the know how to repair any of those chain saws send usually do. I know most shops do not like messing with them because the repair bill equals the price of the saw when new. I don't charge much because I don't own a shop. For me it's been more of a hobby fixing those than making a living.
The later saws yes. These saws in the video were great little saws. As were the bigger super XL12s and such. And last forever.
Hobbies are good.
The carb linkage is similar on both ends but not the same. Carb end is concentric and the trigger end is more open to allow entry into trigger hole as engine is slipped into position.
I have two homelites that have never run, new. Gave up and put them away and bought an electric. Works every time.
I actually don't mind these. But you are right about the carb. the air cleaner is weird. They are LOUD too.
I'm with you Bruce, I like working on these saws and I actually love working on ALL 2 cycle equipment. There's a fella in the neighborhood that has a bunch of weed wackers for sale for $5 each. I bought a few and got them all working in no time. But my passion is getting old chainsaws going again, fun stuff!
@@TheCrittercam001 The only problem I have iswith all 2 strokes. It is the repeated yanking of the rope
@@BrucesShop 😂 yeah, you really gotta pull em
Good work DW6 I love working on 2 cycle equipment♥ That saw has not seen a lot of run time it looks great!
The only time I've ever seen a machine flood over and over again and not start after being blown out with the air nozzle, they've had bad compression or a chunk burnt off the Piston. Good luck. Maybe try the carburetor adjusting screws. Maybe see if the needle is stuck in the carb
Great fix Bob👍 I've got one just like it I need to dig into but been putting it off. It runs but by the time I get it started I'm too tired to use it...lol
I think you did a wonderful job, and didn't give up. Way to go.
Super 2 was my first saw many years ago.... I need a truck saw, and instead of buying a new saw, I think I'm going to do a restoration.
I inherited one of those from my grandpa and another from my father in law years ago. Like you say they're not really worth sticking too much effort into keeping them running and really only good for limbing or light duty cutting.
Yeah but I LOVE the sound that comes from them!
@@staind288 and the 2 cycle smell
@@fishinncrapoutdoors4651 yes, the smell is great
Gotta have a small saw for the small limbs and something to climb with. Really light and I like the 2 triggers that allow me to reach out farther.
They are great saws and perfect for limb cutting and arbor work. Very well made and durable.
I fixed one like that back in March. I hated working on that saw. It would start but wouldn't stay running ended up having to rebuild the carburetor
I’m new at using chainsaws. I didn’t know anything about which ones are worth bothering with. I ended up buying a poolan! LOL. I watched a couple of other videos just on poulans. I opened the gap of the plug to.030”. I have to say I was pretty shocked because it fired right up. I do believe it was only set to .018”. I enjoy your videos especially since I’m just starting out using chainsaws.
I certainly like the early homelite stuff, particularly the xl-98 which was used by fire departments in the 80s, probably one of the most bulletproof saws out there right up with stihl saws, but they lost my respect after they went cheap in the late 80s.
It's worth taking the muffler off to help get everything back in.
Yep, taking the muffler off you can push the plug into where the muffler is to get the engine back in the body easier. Plus, the screw on the front that tightens the chain always gets caught on the body. You have to manuver that too at the same time as getting the spark plug wire through in the back.
I'm on my 2nd tear down carburetor problem
These were quirky little saws.
Many sold by Kmart for $ 88.oo .
I got a lot of use from mine.
I have 4 homelites I like em but. Yes a pain to work on. I prefer Husqvarna or Stihl
Good job , those are a lot like a McCullough throw away both are a pain !! I've used that optimal opti 2 oil for over 30 years never had a break down , last 20 I've used Stens 2 cycle which is the same brand , different name . Love the stabilizer in it.
Pain is correct 😊
You got it to fire and run a few times, probably one of those times you could have held the throttle down till it warmed up and then adjusted the carb screws til it held an idle. I have one of these I did that to and just mess with the screws when it gets finicky.
I agree, I just offer to buy or trade, then fix it when slow down time comes
26:49 And the choke plate is always toward the air filter intake.
Nice job. Have a few of these. And yes pain to work on, but once you get them going, good little pruning saws.
Nice find.
I have one and it’s been in a barn for 20 years. Not locked up. How do find parts?
DW6 I just got me a echo cs590 Timberwolf. 20” bar. Man I love that echo saw plus got it for only 300 out the door at Home Depot!!!
They are a real pain to work on. Great video
Homesites are easy to work on especially the super 2,xl,and xl2
The first side you work on when putting back together is a metering diaphragm fuel pump is on side with walboro
Hardest part is putting throttle linkages
You found that on the side of the road it looks brand new
Need a new sprocket for mine. In the meantime I've filed the teeth on the sprocket to take the ruts out. Stops the chain from binding for now.
Yes they are a pain to work on, I own 2 of them. I bought them new in the mid 70's. They still run alright but you have to constantly keep the bolts tight or they will vibrate out especially the chain tension screw. You spend more time working on it than cutting firewood.🤣🤣
youre right about that, i guy dropped one off from the 70s/80s said it wouldnt start, i spent nearly 20 plus minutes trying to get to the carb and the bolts that hold it on were laying down in the case, so i had to take the whole thing apart. after putting bolts back on it fired right up.
Yep, the recoil bolts keep coming out on mine,.. and one hole is stripped. Gunna see if they make helicoils that small.
I watched this whole video on order to learn how to tighten the tension of the chain. Other than that, great video!
Tensioner's in the front, bud. Just loosen the bar nut a little so the bar moves and turn the screw in the front.
Those old ones are a pain. Good job
Its 12 screws and and two wires and motor slips out of the case it's easy bud.
8 plus one for the handle on the XL ...just got mine together not one hour ago and she's running great :)
I find that the chain tensioner is the thing that pops out of its hole and catches on the body.
Those little saws are a pin to work on and were hell on duckbills but they are cutting machines.
Enjoy your videos very detailed helpful for us rookies 👍
Hi I checked out this vid after coming over from micksmowers..what a nice condition powersaw to find... you'll get some gas money for this one..
I bought 3 for 50 one is broke so use the parts to fix one of them
Good fix , small ones are not always fun to work on , I'd rather work on the bigger one's, one suggestion for you would be to be careful revving them up on cold starts especially if you aren't sure where the carb is set or even if you do , it's hard on the cylinder . I always called them kinda saws throw always ! :-) good video! Big D.
Yah I don’t like working on 2 cycle either that much
But I am very Strict, only non-ethanol fuel goes in any of my own 2 cycle equipment.
2 questions, Did you put the air filter back on? Why not check the points while you had it apart?
Excellent production.
I hate working on small engines. I am working on a older Homelite right now for a friend.
what size fuel line does this saw use? I have the same saw that needs new fuel line. Thanks
it would help if you used a bright work light, Thank you
The problem with the presher tester is the release is on the bottom you have to be careful how you put it down you don't release the presher I have 1 I use all the time I am a stihl mechanic
Have owned a couple of these and they always have trouble starting even after running
Why does everyone find chainsaws alongside the road but me?
Not only chainsaws, but lawnmowers too
You and I must subscribe to the same life as I never find anything like that either
Agreed. Where is this road? I need a chainsaw😎
Take off the recoil starter and spray some oil on all that stuff in there. Always works for me
They are all ways rusty
Did anyone else tilt their phone while he was pouring the gas out? 😂
I'm surprised the diaphragm was ok after all that time what say you?
I bought a craftsman version of this (rebranded homelite) for $25. The y told me it worked if you put fuel directly in the cylinder. I worked on it a bunch and never got it to start. I took the engine apart and found the piston and cylinder were scored. So, I just trashed it. Wasn't going to put any more money in it
I have my dad's super 2 that I'm trying to get going. Can anyone tell me if these are supposed to have 6 or 7 tooth chain sprockets. All the manuals/parts diagrams I've found online show 6 teeth. The one I have has 7 teeth. The chain binds part way around. So I'm guessing soneone at some point changed the sprocket or put the wrong pitch chain on. The sprocket is worn anyways and was thinking I might pay $22 for a new 6 tooth sprocket.
I have 4 of these and i love em
Check and see if the coil is rusty, use sand paper to clean. Check the flywheel to se if its rusty cand to clean. Dont wear your arm cranking on the dam thing. Also the coil could be bad. Be safe. Peace.
Cuss words! Let em roll! when your working on a homelite all the neighbors are sure to know.
I hate these too but If I find cheap, good flips after getting to run.
Nice video! Hope you make some money on this saw! 🤑
I see u forgot the new pull cord lol just playing good job 👍 👌 o. Everything
A flexible diaphragm forms one side of the fuel chamber and is arranged so that as fuel is drawn out into the engine, the diaphragm is forced inward by ambient air pressure. ... As fuel is replenished the diaphragm moves out due to fuel pressure and a small spring, closing the needle valve. not a gasket lol
hmmm? take out high and low screws spray carb cleaner in the with the red straw off course. just to see if it cleans out that way. may get luck and not have to take the whole darn thing apart?? DARN ok just got to part where filter is broken off. looks like a complete tear down anyways.
A veritable walk in the park compared to the McCullough Mini Mac!
i work on this stuff every day all 2 stroke
Personly I use sta-bil fuel treatment for every thing I run, even my personnel vehicle. Just sayong. Be safe. Peace.
Carb cleaner usually works ok for removing old gaskets.
I have found that carb cleaner destroys the diaphragm immediately on old equipment. I used to order gasket kits but now I just order another carburetor. I work on these as a hobby. Most small engine places will not even work on those older chain saws. They were never worth much anyways. I compared them to a bic lighter.
A lot better then a Mini Mac McCulloch!
maybe a hair dryer or heart in 1 1/2 " away from carb/gas to heat gasket adhesive maybe??
those older chainsaws are a pita to work on, newer ones arent the greatest quality but a little easier to access parts, lately i tell people no 2 strokes. btw, i have 4 homelite saws in my shed, the best one is about 15 years old but the brake melted, one sucked the sponge air filter into the engine (brilliant idea) the other 2 are older and have been sitting for years, then i have an echo hedge trimmer, a stihl edger, 3 stihl weed trimmers ive trashed picked or been gifted in the past couple months, i just cant seem to get back into working on 2 strokes anymore, they are frustrating and poorly built.
Right, my super 2 has a little metal piece that keeps the foam away from the carb hole, keeps it from getting pulled in. I didn't see it on this one. My big saw is a homelite C9.
what's the problem is since i have the same one and it won't work
These saws have issues with the screws and the threads crumbling. The vibration crystallizes the threads in the screw holes and it just breaks off. Requiring either heli-coils to fix or jb weld or similar and re-thread the holes. The use of the 10/32 thread is to fine of thread and there is no amount of material between each thread to be strong enough. A10/24 would have been better.
Good Video...but I think the chain is on backwards.
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Some guys buy a new Husky. Others like me spend three hours in the garage fixing a $50 Homelite.
home depot sell home lite so your correct millions of 'em. my small one is a homel ite 14 ' sucks to start since I've owned it
Y are u holding the throttle while cranking it just wondering
Those little saws needed the extra fuel flow to get started. It was one of the quirks.
What a PIB job! They are not designed to be repaired! I would have tossed it in the trash. You have a lot of patience! At least the challenge was met and knowledge was gained!
Heroic effort, I still own and use the first saw I ever bought, a circa 93 husquavarna 257, probably cost 4 times as much as this new, but definitely a case of buy once, cry once.
I have the same shirt btw where did u get that logo?
Makes a great paper weight or conversation piece on The coffee table in the Man cave 😀😃😄😁😆😂😂
Nice job
Nice job. Thanks!
The old mcculloch top handles were kind of like that also. Had to take apart whole case to work on it. Stupid design. No air filter on the homelite?
There is he just forgot to put it back in, they sit in that little nest on top of the carburetor. Should have put a new one on since the old one started to disintegrate while he was taking the saw apart.