@ptkk21 what? 😂 I didn't mean that literally. I'm just saying he's so casual about it like it's not an absolutely amazing feat. It's the internet, we make jokes even when complimenting people.
Y’all don’t understand how difficult this is; keeping the rhythm of the beat while using both hands and feet in a 12/8 signature and also freestyling off the dome, switching flows and cadence throughout, while making it all make sense and knowing how/when to end the beat and the freestyle at the same time. Man talented af
Anderson Paak can do that as well, yet he usually doesnt freestyle. He does more of a singing + rap method. And yeah, it is very difficult. I have played guitar for like thirty+ years and I still have difficulty talking while playing (and I hate singing.)
Yeah it's pretty crazy. I'm decent at drums, I've been playing for 33 years, but the moment I open up my mouth I completely mess it up and sound like a fourth grader who just discovered a drum set. 😂
@@gregoryhines7 I would imagine that doing variable counting out loud may help? So like a 5/4 you would count in a multi syllabic form? 1 and 2, three, four, and five. Yet while maintaining the almost perfect 12345. (Or as I count: on, tu, te, fo, fi. Literally just shortening the words to monosyllabic.)
@josedabigbrain3667 That was my original thought, and why I probably just think of it as, [1, 2, 3] ; repeated 4 times. I am not a drummer tho. I'm sure once you add in the 4/4 polyrhythm it is very difficult.
Harry Mack Facts. Like a whole new Chuck Norris facts. For it. I'll continue the thread below... When the ocean wants to know what speed to wave? It consults Harry Mack. When 2 atomic clock get out of sync? They just call HMack to get it back on track. Before Mambo number 5'd, it made sure to number 4 with Harry. Maybe someone can come up with some better ones, but yes. Harry Mack Facts.
Good on you for hearing it, too. I still can barely even tell where he's starting to lose it - but he liked your comment, so I am assuming it must be accurate. My best guess is it's just on the cymbal?
I used to play drums and I found it so incredibly hard to sing and play at the same time... People who don't play really don't get how impressive it is to freestyle while playing~ Bravo
Jazz is life…Harry Mack freestyling while he’s providing his own jazz beat…Heavenly. Thanks for providing us with the most impressive talent that I’ve ever witnessed! 🙏 ❤
@@pdashcam9757 It's the time signature. It means it's sectioned into 12 beats or pulses of eighth notes. 4/4 (four beats or pulses of quarter notes) is the time signature most people are most familiar with, maybe along with 3/4 (think of a waltz, Dee doo doo Dee doo doo). You can figure out basic time signatures of songs (especially those with highly repetitive percussion sections, like most pop nowadays) by counting and seeing where the patterns seem to repeat (i.e. the count can start over).
I've been drumming for a decade and I couldn't even play this groove without rapping. It's one of those grooves that sound easy only to a non-drummer. And I'm already impressed when people just talk while playing an instrument. This is just impressive on so many levels.
He is an accomplished and professionally trained jazz drummer, went to school for it. It’s how he rides and adapts to any beat when he is freestyling. It’s also where ALL his flow comes from. Been playing drums for atleast 15 years, It’s a huge part of his freestyle ability, he basically uses his vocals as a drum kit if that makes sense
He did a video where he plays the drums but this one is I think is the better of the two…not to say the other one was no good…it was fire..but the groove in this one is smooth as butter..how he’s not reached 3mil subs by now is criminal…he should have ten million subs…he’s the goat
Playing that 12/8 beat for an extended amount of time is already hard enough as a drummer... spitting a complex freestyle on top of that is absolutely insane
Harry Mack is the GOAT for sure. I'd like to see any other rapper that claims goat status rip a freestyle while drumming their own beat. This is master class! Thanks for the gift Harry!
Imagine he would have met with Michael Jackson. Who was a freestyler and beatboxer too. People just dont know. u can actually just search "michael jackson beatbox" ^^ and you find some videos for sure :)
This is just getting ridiculous… it’s hard enough to talk while drumming, let alone rap, let alone freestyle, let alone using polymeters?????? Stop it now 🔥🔥 0:52
We need more harry on the skins. I dont even need the rhymes just form a bad ass jazz band... so sick. Keep going i cant wait to see how this goes in a year or two. I can see it now. On a street corner incorporating walkers buy as you play?
Harry's background as a professional musician clearly gives him a huge advantage in his freestyle. This is a peek behind the curtain at the skills that underpin his prodigious talent. Need to see more if Mack's drumming skills!
It's awesome seeing a rapper with formal musical training. The way you switch up the cadence while consistently staying on the beat showcases your drumming skills.
Bruhhh how insane is Harry there is no measure. We all know He is the GOAT freestyle rapper in the world and to top it off he is simultaneously hitting drums now! Insane. Such a humble guy with master of his craft
This is absolutely incredible! Can’t even comprehend how you keep up your freestyle sometimes, but playing such a complex rhythm at the same time… no way! 🤯
hmack single handedly becoming huge off skill in this era where people tend to value being relatable more (eg tiktok dances anyone can do) is insane. he's carrying the old school values of being skillful so hard. modern day mozart
This is insane!!! To be able to keep a different rhythm with your hands and also your feet while also having your brain racing to freestyle at Mack's level is BONKERS!!!🤯 Mack's brain is something special. Merry Christmas to everyone out there who celebrates!!🎄 Shout out HMack, the HMack Team, and the whole HMack Fan Family!!!🫡✌️🫶
That was so good…and really hard to do…just when you think you’ve seen it all…Harry brings out his drum set…the first time was good..but this was so much better…the goat has spoken
Your jazz drumming training is such a gift for your freestyle. People don’t realize how that gave you so much fluidity in your flow changes over the same beat. I see beyond your obvious talent, proud of you brother ❤️
He has done this before, one of the first few (behind the bars) episodes he had a part with him drumming and freestyling This is the most impressive? Check out rap like a record scratch or rapgod freestyle. Not saying that this isn’t impressive, 99.9999% of things he does is but if this is the most impressive thing you’ve seen looks like you gotta dig into his content
This right here is totally different from anything i have ever seen in Hiphop. By freestyling and drumming you just took competition out of the equation at this point. You probably wont see this but i am giving your flowers you are one of one. Just when i think there is no more room for improvement you find ways to keep getting better and better.
Thinking about how I struggle at times to just keep a rhythm going over and over meanwhile he’s doing that as well as fills at times while freestyling double time. Absolute levels, inspiring
Yesssss! As a drummer, I love all of Harry’s integrations with drum play, whether that’s the very occasional quintuplets Harry puts into his freestyle phrasing or the full on kit work. Would lovvve more!
This is flippin insane 1. Its already not so easy to sing while drum 2. HE IS PLAYING IN FLIPPIN 12 8 AND KEEPING THE BEAT EFFORTLESSLY ON TEMPO AND ITS NOT OFF FOR ONE SEC LIKE THATSS CRAZYY BROO
Seen his smile straight away 😅. He spoke about it this on one of the podcasts. He thinks he uses the same part of his brain to play the drums as he does his freestyle. So this is insanely hard for him and still makes it look easy 😂🔥👌
Harry Mack is so consistently impressive, that I have a hard time imagining what his limits even are, or how anyone could ever take what he's doing to another level beyond what he's already done. He's going multiple generations beyond everything. I'm looking forward to 20-30 years from now when there's a whole cohort of freestyle rappers who've grown up inspired by Harry Mack.
Freestyling takes up so much space mentally. So does druming in that time signature. Doing either requires practice. Doing both requires skill. Doing both simultaneously requires talent.
H Mack is the most versatile rapper that i have ever seen. So he is pretty much saying he can do it all on the mic and kill any instrumental all while doing it off top. I'm sure your (former)friend has a lot of evidence to back it up. 😄
Bro…. Just, bro. Had a whole comment planned but, man. I’m just amazed. You’re amazing Harry. A creators muse. You deserve everything good in this world, as you bring so much good to it. Sincerely wishing you all the best in life.
That sh!+ is hard man. I cant play drums and rap. I cant even play drums. Dont know how. And........well.....i cant rap either. ..... sooo ...... .yeahh......dude got some skills
You've got to be shitting me
_yeah, that's what I thought , too_ 😂
@@SedatKPunkt LOL same
I actually said this out loud about 15 seconds in. Good grief.
@@nowonmai-r8m I said Holy S***. hahah
Perfectly described 👌
This is honestly insane. Those who play drums know how crazy this is. Endless respect for Harry Mack
I have trouble singing written lyrics, while I’m drumming. This dude is taking it two steps past that… but he’s a million miles ahead of me.
It's ridiculous.
One step up from Phil collins
yeah that's insane lmao
keeping rhythm, not missing a hit and also rapping without mistake is craaazy
You are NOT human!!!!!
A reasonable response.
Says another one that's NOT human @beardyman 😁
Takes one to know one!
Game recognize game
H.mack my favourite human even he if he is an alien 👽👽👽👽👽👽👽👽❤️🇦🇺🦈🐊🦘🐊🦈🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺❤️
Harry Mack Tiny Desk 2025 I’m calling it now
this would be sick
YES!!!!!
And then release it on vinyl!
Omg yeees we need this
Yes please
This is the most polite "I'm just better than you all" experience I've ever witnessed.
You can't just appreciate the fact that he loves his craft and entertains people? You have to make everything about envy and hierarchy don't you?
@ptkk21 what? 😂 I didn't mean that literally. I'm just saying he's so casual about it like it's not an absolutely amazing feat. It's the internet, we make jokes even when complimenting people.
I think the background in jazz just gives him so much freedom to naturally fill anything. I've still never seen anyone else do this.
Sorry but WHAT THE ACTUAL F*? As a drummer - HUGE respect! 12/8 while spitting, bro is gifted
Y’all don’t understand how difficult this is; keeping the rhythm of the beat while using both hands and feet in a 12/8 signature and also freestyling off the dome, switching flows and cadence throughout, while making it all make sense and knowing how/when to end the beat and the freestyle at the same time. Man talented af
Anderson Paak can do that as well, yet he usually doesnt freestyle. He does more of a singing + rap method.
And yeah, it is very difficult. I have played guitar for like thirty+ years and I still have difficulty talking while playing (and I hate singing.)
Yeah it's pretty crazy. I'm decent at drums, I've been playing for 33 years, but the moment I open up my mouth I completely mess it up and sound like a fourth grader who just discovered a drum set. 😂
@@gregoryhines7 I would imagine that doing variable counting out loud may help?
So like a 5/4 you would count in a multi syllabic form?
1 and 2, three, four, and five.
Yet while maintaining the almost perfect 12345. (Or as I count: on, tu, te, fo, fi. Literally just shortening the words to monosyllabic.)
12/8 is relatively easy it's basically just 4/4 in triplets but nonetheless this is insane
@josedabigbrain3667 That was my original thought, and why I probably just think of it as, [1, 2, 3] ; repeated 4 times.
I am not a drummer tho. I'm sure once you add in the 4/4 polyrhythm it is very difficult.
When metronomes need calibration, they use Harry Mack to keep tempo.
lmaoo facts
Harry Mack Facts. Like a whole new Chuck Norris facts. For it.
I'll continue the thread below...
When the ocean wants to know what speed to wave? It consults Harry Mack.
When 2 atomic clock get out of sync? They just call HMack to get it back on track.
Before Mambo number 5'd, it made sure to number 4 with Harry.
Maybe someone can come up with some better ones, but yes. Harry Mack Facts.
All those A.I. lyric generators are fake, all them lyrics is actually Harry Mack texting you back, he does it for practice
I love how you can see him smiling while he’s doing it because he knows 1. How hard it is and 2. That he’s killing it.
This! lol whenever he smiles he knows it’s super hard and is up for the challenge. Glad someone else notices this.
he told you he was a jazz drummer yall weren’t listening 🐐
you got me
Mack here doing side quests
Was here to type the same xD
Mack Gang here for it!! ✊🏻
Someone has been making this side quests comment for over 3 years now lmao
@@jwill294haha maybe Harry's been on it for a long time already
He was a drummer before he was a rapper
technically the rapping is the side quest
1:23 this is so hard. I love how when he starts to lose the drumming he says “it starts to get frantic” and then just continues. GOATED
Good on you for hearing it, too. I still can barely even tell where he's starting to lose it - but he liked your comment, so I am assuming it must be accurate. My best guess is it's just on the cymbal?
amen brother - if you havent already seen it!
Big dog Hmack, I’m a long term fan and would love if I could supply some words for a freestyle some time. Shot in the dark but it would make my year
I think the ability to instantly recover from any mistake is one of the things that makes Harry Mack so great!
He also says, "keeping it honest" at another time he recovers from a mistake, 1:37
I used to play drums and I found it so incredibly hard to sing and play at the same time...
People who don't play really don't get how impressive it is to freestyle while playing~
Bravo
Yeah, this was stooooopid 😂
Fr this is multiple parts of ur brain working in perfect coordination it is insane
But I do wonder how much practice he'd done for this. How many takes.
I can barely say sup to someone while playing, this is mind blowing
Fo sho!!😳😳😳
I like to think I have brain talent.
This is next level 🙏
What in the actual fuck. Brain flawlessly performing like 8 different tasks at once. Truly inspiring bro.
Jazz is life…Harry Mack freestyling while he’s providing his own jazz beat…Heavenly. Thanks for providing us with the most impressive talent that I’ve ever witnessed! 🙏 ❤
as a drummer, afro cuban grooves are one of my favorites. he really killed it here, no way i could rap while doing this. absolutely fantastic.
written rap maybe at a stretch - but freestyle top of the dome ..... NEVER! only H MACK!
More of this please!!! What a great Christmas gift!
there isnt a big enough like button in this world that is reflective of the talent and skill on display. im fuckin serious you people.
Might actually be the most talented human on the planet right now
Amen!
Him and chooka Parker goated
I don't think he's a human. My man is an alien 👽
Along with Jacob Collier or Justin Lee Schultz you think?
This is Mack at his best. Some can drum, some can funk, some can rap, some can show up,...The H Mack does it all so effortlessly. Chefs kiss
12/8 shi hard dawg🔥
Big facts!
12/8? is this a drumming term? sorry! im clueless
@@pdashcam9757it’s a time signature consisting of 12 notes making up one bar
@@pdashcam9757 It's the time signature. It means it's sectioned into 12 beats or pulses of eighth notes. 4/4 (four beats or pulses of quarter notes) is the time signature most people are most familiar with, maybe along with 3/4 (think of a waltz, Dee doo doo Dee doo doo). You can figure out basic time signatures of songs (especially those with highly repetitive percussion sections, like most pop nowadays) by counting and seeing where the patterns seem to repeat (i.e. the count can start over).
@@danielgregg thanks!🙏
I've been drumming for a decade and I couldn't even play this groove without rapping. It's one of those grooves that sound easy only to a non-drummer. And I'm already impressed when people just talk while playing an instrument. This is just impressive on so many levels.
The force is strong with this one! ❤
He is the force lol
the fact that he can do both at the same time is beyond insane
His drum skills are incredibly impressive! I'd love to hear more.
And to freestyle over top.. WOW 🔥
He is an accomplished and professionally trained jazz drummer, went to school for it. It’s how he rides and adapts to any beat when he is freestyling. It’s also where ALL his flow comes from. Been playing drums for atleast 15 years, It’s a huge part of his freestyle ability, he basically uses his vocals as a drum kit if that makes sense
@@jordanlevy9577 He’s been playing the drums since he was 10
He did a video where he plays the drums but this one is I think is the better of the two…not to say the other one was no good…it was fire..but the groove in this one is smooth as butter..how he’s not reached 3mil subs by now is criminal…he should have ten million subs…he’s the goat
Playing that 12/8 beat for an extended amount of time is already hard enough as a drummer... spitting a complex freestyle on top of that is absolutely insane
Harry Mack is the GOAT for sure. I'd like to see any other rapper that claims goat status rip a freestyle while drumming their own beat. This is master class! Thanks for the gift Harry!
Imagine he would have met with Michael Jackson. Who was a freestyler and beatboxer too. People just dont know. u can actually just search "michael jackson beatbox" ^^ and you find some videos for sure :)
Sir!!! Love it!!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
You know your dope when drumming and freestyle isn't hard enough so you combine drumming AND freestyle.. Harry Mack dude your insane :)
Already GOATED , but this makes him untouchable.
Yo you should do this typa stuff more often, its fire
This is just getting ridiculous… it’s hard enough to talk while drumming, let alone rap, let alone freestyle, let alone using polymeters?????? Stop it now 🔥🔥 0:52
The Man
The Myth
The Living Legend
Ain't another rapper on the planet doin what H does or can do
We need more harry on the skins. I dont even need the rhymes just form a bad ass jazz band... so sick. Keep going i cant wait to see how this goes in a year or two. I can see it now. On a street corner incorporating walkers buy as you play?
Harry's background as a professional musician clearly gives him a huge advantage in his freestyle. This is a peek behind the curtain at the skills that underpin his prodigious talent. Need to see more if Mack's drumming skills!
Another reason why his rap flow/s is so good because of his drumming, his rythmn and timing from playing the drums is ingrained in him
You gotta incorporate this into your live shows. Incredible
Seconding this. Would love to see it in Denver April 5th.
FACTS!
💯
It's awesome seeing a rapper with formal musical training. The way you switch up the cadence while consistently staying on the beat showcases your drumming skills.
Bruhhh how insane is Harry there is no measure. We all know He is the GOAT freestyle rapper in the world and to top it off he is simultaneously hitting drums now! Insane. Such a humble guy with master of his craft
love love that MF DOOM shoutout🎭
This is whole OTHER LEVEL of skill...
Next evolution: Freestyling while simultaneously improvising the beats
I think he has done that before, this time he was just trying an even more complex drum pattern
So hard to just keep that timing on the high hat but then your freestyling on top of that!! Dang bro
god damn this man is honestly just so fucking talented. what a great christmas present
This is absolutely incredible! Can’t even comprehend how you keep up your freestyle sometimes, but playing such a complex rhythm at the same time… no way! 🤯
Nah you are the goat, idc. You are him, Harry🔥
hmack single handedly becoming huge off skill in this era where people tend to value being relatable more (eg tiktok dances anyone can do) is insane. he's carrying the old school values of being skillful so hard. modern day mozart
That’s crazy! As if freestyling alone isn’t impressive enough….🔥🔥🔥🔥🎤
Ayyyeee!!!! That was so boss!!! Man, you're so talented dude! And skilled and all that! All the things!! Love this!
This is insane!!! To be able to keep a different rhythm with your hands and also your feet while also having your brain racing to freestyle at Mack's level is BONKERS!!!🤯 Mack's brain is something special. Merry Christmas to everyone out there who celebrates!!🎄 Shout out HMack, the HMack Team, and the whole HMack Fan Family!!!🫡✌️🫶
That was so good…and really hard to do…just when you think you’ve seen it all…Harry brings out his drum set…the first time was good..but this was so much better…the goat has spoken
That kit sounds incredible!
Your jazz drumming training is such a gift for your freestyle. People don’t realize how that gave you so much fluidity in your flow changes over the same beat. I see beyond your obvious talent, proud of you brother ❤️
My drummmmmmer🔥
The Mack always starts off, flowing right off of the top of the mental, when it be coming to lyrics right off of the top 😂🔥💪🏻
Man, you just keep getting better. This is the most impressive thing I've seen from you.
He has done this before, one of the first few (behind the bars) episodes he had a part with him drumming and freestyling
This is the most impressive? Check out rap like a record scratch or rapgod freestyle. Not saying that this isn’t impressive, 99.9999% of things he does is but if this is the most impressive thing you’ve seen looks like you gotta dig into his content
This right here is totally different from anything i have ever seen in Hiphop.
By freestyling and drumming you just took competition out of the equation at this point.
You probably wont see this but i am giving your flowers you are one of one.
Just when i think there is no more room for improvement you find ways to keep getting better and better.
Thinking about how I struggle at times to just keep a rhythm going over and over meanwhile he’s doing that as well as fills at times while freestyling double time. Absolute levels, inspiring
You are also inspiring. Much ❤.
@ much love always Jerome!
This guy is always surprising me wtf he's a beast 🔥🔥🔥
Yesssss! As a drummer, I love all of Harry’s integrations with drum play, whether that’s the very occasional quintuplets Harry puts into his freestyle phrasing or the full on kit work. Would lovvve more!
did you see his recent freestyle with that desktop pen drummer dude?
insanity
LEGEND status, man's just playin' with us at this point.
Brother is constantly levelling up. I respect it so much
Can’t describe how much respect I have for your work, talent and commitment. GOAT
Appreciate that! Thanks for being here 🙏🏻
Always Mack!
That was too fire.
This is flippin insane
1. Its already not so easy to sing while drum
2. HE IS PLAYING IN FLIPPIN 12 8 AND KEEPING THE BEAT EFFORTLESSLY ON TEMPO AND ITS NOT OFF FOR ONE SEC LIKE THATSS CRAZYY BROO
This shi must be so hard to do. What a master.
this is f***** insane! Crazy...
bro was gate keeping his drumming skills from us 😭
😂😂😂 my bad you’re right
dude be drum blocking
maaaaaaaaaaaaate. we need more of this. dayum!
I remember he mentioned a long time ago that he wanted to practice this, and I didn't expect him to succeed so quickly.
He's done this on video about 2 years ago already when on the episode when they bought furniture for his new studio
This dude can play drums as well?? Respect
Been waiting! Glad to see the drum skills finally - would love to see much much more!
Texting from Nigeria 🇳🇬 and I can tell you this is absolutely fugging amazing!!!
this is crazyyyyy !!! 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯
Harry is the goat of rap period, not just freestyle he is the goat end of story.
Iykyk
Harry Mack you’re the most brilliant multitasker I’ve ever seen!!!
was it the coast interview where he said he couldn't drum + free simaultaneously? the grind must've been crazy, mad props. never stagnating!
Dude, you didn't even miss a beat. You are on another level! Thanks for sharing! :) Great timing!!
Seen his smile straight away 😅. He spoke about it this on one of the podcasts. He thinks he uses the same part of his brain to play the drums as he does his freestyle. So this is insanely hard for him and still makes it look easy 😂🔥👌
So he is basicly multitasking with half a brain.... got it... SMH!! :D
Harry Mack is so consistently impressive, that I have a hard time imagining what his limits even are, or how anyone could ever take what he's doing to another level beyond what he's already done. He's going multiple generations beyond everything. I'm looking forward to 20-30 years from now when there's a whole cohort of freestyle rappers who've grown up inspired by Harry Mack.
now this is boss level🔥
Freestyling takes up so much space mentally. So does druming in that time signature. Doing either requires practice. Doing both requires skill. Doing both simultaneously requires talent.
Best present I got for Christmas 🤍
More of this please, this is amazing to see regardless of how well the algorithm receives it
This is a different level. It’s a rare lane, and I think you just went straight to the top of it. Please do more of this.
🔥🔥🔥 Absolutely insane! *Stank face* . Next level just went next level!
That lil snare roll part synced to the lyrics. 🤌
Yeah but can he juggle at the same time? Thought not.
Amateurs
I mean he is essentially juggling the drum sticks
@@jordanlevy9577yeah but are the on fire? Thought not.
At least balance on a unicycle FFS.
I've watched a lot of musical performances on UA-cam over the years, and this is the most impressive one.
I once had a friend who said Mack was basic and he could do what Harry does....in his dreams!😂
Like greats in everything, he makes the almost impossible look easy.
H Mack is the most versatile rapper that i have ever seen.
So he is pretty much saying he can do it all on the mic and kill any instrumental all while doing it off top.
I'm sure your (former)friend has a lot of evidence to back it up. 😄
Once (!!)
Man it's a pleasure to watch another freestyler lock in to that flow, doing it with a full kit puts this into insane levels for me. Mad chops dude
Ayyyy! 👏🔥 Merry Christmas! 🎄
His mind is thinking of everything and nothing at all. The flow state. Crazy!!!
As long as it H-MACK, it’s gonna be awesome.. 🎄🎄🎄GUARANTEE.. Merry Christmas😊
Bro…. Just, bro. Had a whole comment planned but, man. I’m just amazed. You’re amazing Harry. A creators muse. You deserve everything good in this world, as you bring so much good to it. Sincerely wishing you all the best in life.
Wanna see that Anderson Paak drum and rap collab soon
That would be hella nice!
HARRY MACK NEVER DISAPPOINTS. EVER!!!!
@drumeo I think it’s time for a new unique guest
Never been bouncing to a Harry Mack tune as much as now, love the 12/8. We need a violin drum rap compilation soon
Skills. Anyone who doubts Harry Mack, try to play drums and rap at the same time.
That sh!+ is hard man. I cant play drums and rap. I cant even play drums. Dont know how. And........well.....i cant rap either. ..... sooo
...... .yeahh......dude got some skills
Just playing drums and singing written lyrics while drumming is already hard, let alone freestyling off the top.