Which Sonar Frequency should you use? BIGGEST Fish Finder MISTAKE! 50khz -83khz -200khz? CHIRP?
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- Choosing Fish finder frequencies. What frequency is best for your sonar. 50khz 83khz 200khz High chirp med chirp low chirp CHIRP Sertings #fishfinders #sonar #fishing
Freshwater and Saltwater fishing. Sonar for dummies. How to read a fishfinder. Reading a fish finder. Catfishing sonar. Bass sonar. Simrad sonar. Lowrance sonar. CHIRP sonar. Striper fishing . Catching Striped Bass! How to catch Striped Bass. Simrad go How to find Striped Bass.. Stripper fishing Where to catch Striped Bass. Fresh and Saltwater Striper Fishing techniques. Raritan Bay New Jersey. Chesapeake Bay Raritan Bay New York. #striperfishing #striped bass fishing #howtocatchstripers #sonarfordummies. Mike Smedley Fishing. Some links below are affiliated.
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That's actually why I subscribed.. yes I am a striper/hybrid fisherman but you have the only videos that break down actual sonar images and conditions. Thanks man seriously
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Dude thank you! This is the best and most simple explanation as a new boater.
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Thanks for the information. It's helpful and at this time I especially appreciate your fish finder videos.
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As usual a great video with relative information. Always learn something from your videos. Thanks again
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Always informative, Mike! Keep it up, brother. ~Nokki / Dallas, TX
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As always very clear details....very well explained Mike ...tight lines buddy
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Good explanation of frequencies and cones. Thank you again Mike!
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Thanks again Mike for the info. Its taken me a year and a half to figure out these new school transducers and what they do with all these new fangled options, but to hear it verbally spoken from a pro really helps out. Stay safe.
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Always appreciate your time brother. Implemented a variety of suggestions up in Maine for Stripers and your spot on brother.
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Thx for the info every little bit helps mostly fish for catfish but you never know what happens thx again always like your videos tight lines
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Great video striper king. I'm actually going to take your advice and play with the fixed frequency on my transducer when I catfish. Depending on the pattern, I often fish 25 feet or less. Thanks for the tip.
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Neat info. I live on a river and rarely go deeper than 20 ft on yhe river.
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Watching this as a newb, I just realized how much more I could have grasped the difference between cones is if you would have put the three fish in the 50khz in the same locations in the other two cones, and where they would be outside the higher kHz sonar beams.
Good work I am learning a lot.
Ha! Good point.
Awesome video and information. We’ve never fished stripers before and are planning to go next weekend.
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Awesome video just came across it. I wish you would've talked about depths. Shallow to deep on each would have been a big help as well.
Thanks brother! Each processor is different depending on a few things, one being wattage.
Roughly 800-2000+ft You want LOW CHIRP.
MEDIUM CHIRP 0-800ft (best 20ft-600ft)
HIGH CHIRP 0-400ft. (Best 0-200).
Unless you have a degree n Acoustics, I'm quite impressed with your presentation.
I've had college professors that didn't explain this as simple and easy to understand for the layman.
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I am certainly a newb 6 weeks into learning my own fish finder. Garmin 73sv. I have a few analogies. I am not 100% certain they are correct but someone might find one useful. I would like to try seeing the differences now and what might change in March or April when the water is muddy and full of pollen. I thought my down view, side view, and eye sight weren't doing well for me. It actually wasn't too bad on auto. After I figured out how to change the contrast, brightness, and range the images perked up quite a bit.
1. Game day parade drums > You hear the bass drums first. They are low frequency. Low frequency is long wavelength. The bass sound travels farther. The bass drum head is wide and wobbly. It bounces back and forth rather slowly but packs a big punch. The snares, on the other hand, have smaller diameter, tightly stretched heads. It's sound is a short-lived, high pitch crackle that dies out quickly. Snare heads, and the snare strings below, vibrate with high frequency and short wavelengths. Playing a roll on a bass drum is very easy because it takes fewer strokes per unit of time on the drum head before you can't distinguish the sound between the two mallets. It gets a muddy sound faster. Playing a roll on a snare requires a very fast bounce or it will not sound like a roll at all. Because you can hear each short, tiny crackle, you have to cram in more strokes per unit of time to sound like a roll. The bass has a wonderful sound in single booms - low definition. The snare's advantage is that smaller notes can be distinguished - high def. One is blurry. One is crisp.
2. TV's and Video Games > A low def TV or game graphics have fewer larger squares to draw the picture. A high def TV with lots of pixels can draw a better image.
3. Routers and Cell Phones > You old router may have gotten you a good signal throughout the house. Your newer 5G (ac) or newest 6G (ax? I forgot) router may not reach quite well throughout your home or may not hit your back patio or driveway outside if you used be able to get a good signal outside before. The higher energy is great over shorter distances but it doesn't reach very far, and it doesn't like to turn corners. We are just now getting 5G cell phones because it rather hard to accomplish and might actually need more towers to do it. Not sure but 5G cell phone progress has been slow going.
4. Telescope > Imagine getting a telescope and zooming in on something large. It doesn't matter if it is Jupiter or the side of a barn. You can definitely see things a little closer with higher definition. But what exactly are you looking at? What is it's scope? Now zoom out and see the whole planet or barn.
Tanks for a great video. Please can you explain why a fixed high frequency can be better then high chirp when fishing in really shallow water like 10-20ft.
And again, thanks for doing such a nice work for us all, I’m learning a lot! 👍
In very shallow water (less than 20) the single frequency gave me a little better resolution in most cases (not all). I used to switch between the two a lot going in And out of shallow water, but now I leave it in CHIRP unless I’m staying in 10-15 ft all day long. I don’t really know the technical reasons why this is, it’s just something I noticed. It may just be a case of “less is more” when the pings don’t need to travel very far. Thanks for the comment!! Great question!
Great vid Mike...lots of good info! question about your boat...what are you using for storage under you seat? Looks like a festool box maybe?
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are those fish on paper keeper size? asking for a friend. great job Mike!
Yes sir!! One guy said “now I know the difference” low shows 3 fish, med shows 2 fish, and high shows 1 🤣🤣🤣
Hey Mike, thanks for a other great video. I had a question for ya. What is your go to bait for the Raritan river, early season striper fishing?
Glad you like it! I keep 4 rods rigged. 8” Ben Parker spoon. 4-5” hookup bait. 10” BKD and a topwater popper. If I only had 2 I would have a spoon rod and a hookup bait rod rigged up. If I see big adult bunker schools its a spoon all the way. If I see peanut bunker or spearing I’m using the hookup baits. I like 1/2oz and 5/8oz. There’s a code in the description to save a few bucks. 👍👍 thanks brother!
Hi Mike, great video! I just bought a boat with a 1kw TM275LHW. I will be bottom fishing in 100-300ft of water predominantly. My question is will this transducer be ok? The way I understand it is the High/Wide will be great for finding new ground but not great for actually getting over the fish, and the low will also have a wide cone and be unnecessary in these depths. Should I be switching to a High/Med Transducer instead? Thanks!
When you say shallow, what’s “shallow” in feet? I’m new the sonar and your videos are the only ones that make sense to me. LoL. Thanks for the break down
In Sonar speak shallow is less then 600ft. In practical terms for ME as a Striper fisherman it’s more like 25-50ft.
Thanks Mike all your videos are very informative. I have a 2 fold? I have a Gar.7608xsv w/gt51Deucer also a hummingbird helix mega si g3 series when on plane my garmin reads btm. but not very clear my Hbird looses any reading at about 13-15mph I do have them mounted below the hull , I fish mostly C cod Striper & tuna . Any suggestions for a better/ clearer picture? Thanks for sharing
I appreciate that!! Trying tilting the following edge of the transducers down a bit. You can usually go further down than you think to increase water pressure across the face of the transducer. I have seen a boat yet that this doesn’t work on, even a flat bottom skiff. We had to go quite low on the skiff, and it threw a bit of a rooster tail, but it worked👍👍 check this video out. ua-cam.com/video/D6lX7thQrhg/v-deo.html. Thanks for the comment!!! 🙏😁🙏🙏🙏
Perfectly analogous to the beamwidth of a radar or communications system. The term "chirp" refers to frequency modulated waveform which, if it were low enough frequency for a person to hear, would sound like a bird chirp. Higher bandwidth requires higher frequencies which means narrower beamwidth. The only point I might disagree with is, a narrower beam usually means higher gain and that should take you deeper. It concentrates the sonar acoursic energy, which should travel deeper.
Good stuff. Thanks. But lower frequencies travel deeper. It’s the most common mistake in sonar.
@@MikeSmedleyOLDSCHOOLSTRIPERS Thanks. I'm wondering if the tranducers can put out more power at lower frequencies? (If so, that too would be analogous to high-power microwave vacuum tubes or solid-state modules of a radar.) Or maybe I'll just read up on sonar frequencies. Hey I would love to charter a trip with you, if it's something you offer.
I just got a transom mount TM 275LH-W. So when I'm 1 Targeting tuna and want to concentrate on the 300 feet and above for Suspended tuna. What frequency would you use?
Thanks, but I am still confused but I probably always will be. 🤪
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Can you recommend a transom mount chirp transducer that's compatible with my Lowrance Ti2? Would love to upgrade. Thanks for all your work Mike!
This is a sick transducer for the money amzn.to/2BsVMud. I shot some incredible footage when this transducer first came out. Keep in mind that you won’t have side or down scan if you use this with the Ti2 since it has just one port. 👍🙏
@@MikeSmedleyOLDSCHOOLSTRIPERS They make a Y cable... will that allow both transducers to work?
Unfortunately no. You can only use one or the other. There is only one sonar processor in that unit. You can swap back and forth if you power down before switching, but that’s about it.
Check out the active imaging 3 in 1 transducer from lowrance its pretty awesome. And is compatible with your Ti2
Thanks captain Mike I have a Lowrance ti2 9” with 3-1 transducer transom mounted starboard I saw your video that you run your transducers low in the water and understand why for your strategy and fishing skills. Now my question to you is I have a 21’ and I get cavitation on plane and well you know you lose bottom and I don’t like not knowing I don’t care if I’m in 300’ I just need to know. I want to purchase an Airmar I actually live in the town that the company is located. I trailer my boat rollers I need a bunk but I’m stuck with it. So I’m thinking shoot thru hull I’ve been on there website to see which is best for me I’ve lake fishing for 30 years and started saltwater last year due to my boat size upgrade. I fish coastal/ striper and ground fishing when weather permits so 100-300’ 30 miles out Lowrance website is not the best at getting information from so my friend that I haven’t met yet for transducers what do you recommend? Sorry for the long introduction but really love you videos and would love to get a good saltwater fishing experience with you guys if you ever offer any I live in Milford NH an a 60 year old diehard left hand fisherman thanks again Captain Mike your information on your videos is appreciated love you mean it
I appreciate your support brother!! This is your beast 👍👍👍www.boemarine.com/airmar-600w-85-135-khz-med-in-hull-chirp-includes-mix-n-match-cable.html?srsltid=AfmBOopDVfkZDRbkXSjMoILnLoyQKLSBMv6TUyO3NTtjLZhXgayohOeWhg4. As long as you don’t have wood in your hull.
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Mike
I am a river fisherman most time water depth max would be 50 feet or less. I am running a 22 ft. Jet boat. Want to get a new fish finder. With side view. What would you recommend. Thank you
Dan Redding,
The Simrad Evo3 is baddest of the bad. It’s what we use. The active imaging transducer has the best side scan too 👍👍👍
What about airmar B275LHW. I used to run the B175M on a simrad EVO2 machine, and was very under impressed. I would also run a furuno fcv588 with an old school b260 (broadband, dual frequency LH) at the same time. My furuno worked better and would always mark more than the simrad. Fishing in Northeast, 100-300 ft. I am hoping the B275LHW will take the best of all worlds in CHIRP and capture everything better, and with a decent 25 degree cone.
I love the 275. It’s insane. I’ve had them all at one point or another. I have the 175 HW version now because I never go super deep for low CHIRP. However I’m thinking you have something wrong with the evo2 in the settings possibly because I also have the b175M and it is killer. Certainly a mountain higher than the b60. Are you still using the evo2?
@@MikeSmedleyOLDSCHOOLSTRIPERS thanks!. no i sold the boat it was on. my latest plan was to use the b275lhw with a furuno tzt3 .
So would you recommend 1kw 50/200khz transducer from lowrence instead of 3 in 1 transducer? For lakes and ocean (bay) fishing?
Not necessarily. I don’t honestly see a reason to buy a transducer that’s not CHIRP if you have a CHIRP processor in your display.
Got any good tips on low or decent links running a simrad nss evo3 with tm275lhw struggling to make sense of it. Cheers
Most of my videos are usually the 175 HIGH WIDE which is the same transducer you have minus the low frequencies. You will only really use low when you get quite deep. Around 500-2000plus feet. Check out the last video posted on the Simrad UA-cam video!! It’s a cool one using low CHIRP. THANKS!
Great video but are you sure about the cone size per frequencies? I always understood that high covered more area and low had a narrower cone
So basically use low past 200’ depth and high in shallower water
I will check out your shared link
Yes sir. The cone sizes have nothing to do with depth “penetration” The lower frequencies (50khz) are best for deeper water. That’s a very common mis-conception. That’s one of the reasons I made the video actually. It’s easy to think that a narrower cone will travel deeper, but it doesn’t. It’s all about the frequency. Google Airmar low CHIRP or 50khz for deep water. 👍👍. Thanks for the comment brother!
Higher frequencies are absorbed by the water quicker. Low frequencies travel further in water thus they are better for longer distances. Whales and elephants use very low frequencies and they seem to have the ability to be heard over many miles.
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You nailed it.
Higher frequencies give more detail to the image, but doesn't penetrate as deep as a lower frequency... especially through silty/muddy water.
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Hi Mike, Mark from Charlotte. I don’t have a boat nor have ever used such a device. But I did run a failure analysis lab and used device called a C-SAM, or a scanning acoustical microscope to peer inside solid structures, most commonly a polymer encased microprocessor, but at other times a metal encloser, trying to find defects. Samples were in a water tank, and the transducer was programmed to scan back and forth in a rectangular fashion, typically taking a few minutes to an hrs or so to produce an image. The highest frequency was 200 MEGA Hz, then reduced from there. Without getting into the nitty gritty, the higher frequency gave great resolution at shallow depths, it could not see deep at all. The deeper you need to see, the lower frequency you need, but you lose resolution the lower frequency you use. It appears it’s the same as you describe, but to make it more understandable, just use depth vs frequency, if shallow, use high frequency, the deeper you go, use a lower frequency
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Are there transducers that are "auto?" Meaning it goes from MED when you're on-plane, then back to HIGH when you slow down?
an Auto setting? So I don't have to switch back & fourth?
What battery set up do you use, how many , what kind
I switched to lithium batteries 2 years ago and I love them. I used to need 2 big 78lb group 31 AGM batteries just to run my sonar, (switching over half way thru the day.). Since I switched to lithium I have only used the 1 battery all day and it only weighs around 26lbs. I never expected such an improvement. They are definitely worth the money to me. If they aren’t in your budget a group 31 interstate deep cycle would be my next choice. The AGM batteries weren’t worth it to me.
Mike... I use my boat in the Raritan Bay. I have NSS9 with 3-1 transducer and i can't aee if figure it out. Could you do a video on that transducer? I'm wondering if mine is broken.
Sure. Which 3 in 1 do you have? Total scan or active imaging? It will be on cable tag by plug and in the echo installation page box by transducer installed.
@@MikeSmedleyOLDSCHOOLSTRIPERS I have the active imaging. I would like to send you a screen shot of my side scan. I am wondering if I have a defective unit.
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so snapper trolling from 60 to 90 meters which frequency to use high chirp or medium chirp?
I would use medium that deep.
Mike,
Are you fishing in Gloucester this year?
Not this year. Maybe next.
Mike great advice, but I haven’t seen you talk about thru hull transducers like I have with a evos 2 , I still have never seen any fish arches, boating in eastern Long Island sound ? I’m clueless. Thanks.
The thru-hulls are really the same as the transom mounts. The only difference is where they are mounted. So the b175 and tm185 are the same. The b150 and tm150 are the same etc. what transducer are you using with the Evo2?
@@MikeSmedleyOLDSCHOOLSTRIPERS I have no idea , it was all installed before I bought the boat, it seems to be very good, always have a lock on the bottom at all speeds, I’ve seen ( i believe ) clouds of bait ? Never any fish arches
@@duffmeister3373 same as my thru hull. Great bottom. No arches
@@MikeSmedleyOLDSCHOOLSTRIPERS Amy help wth thru hull? I am not getting nice arches either
@@bradplaney4936 what model transducer is it? What display is it?
I have a tm185hw. I fish the river normally 30'-50' and the salt 75'-120'. Should I keep it on high chirp for both u think?
High CHIRP for sure👍
@@MikeSmedleyOLDSCHOOLSTRIPERS thanks Mike!
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@@MikeSmedleyOLDSCHOOLSTRIPERS I also have a Garmin 3 in 1 on the boat. Still stuck with the 185 in the river?
Definitely. That transducer is killer.
Where is the swordfish video link
In the description
That sounded like babbling to me , more confused now🤷🏿♂️
Check out the comments. They might help. People usually have similar questions. 👍
Ask me a specific question or two. Maybe that will help.
if you're a real fish man you don't need to cheat and use a fish finder to catch fish you got old school written outside your boat you're more of the new schooler if you have to use the fish finder to catch fish
I’m NOT A real “fish man”
I think i may have got the wrong transducer for what i need. Will my lowrance tripleshot work for water @ 100ft?
Sure. It’s fine for those depths.
Hi Mike I have been usuing the tm165hw in average 80-100 ft and the detail is amazing, most time I'm usuing a fixed frequency at 200khz and other times to pinpoint b60 at 200khz. The b75m I run mostly on plane to find the schools. Great explanation. You just have to use it enough to understand what works best for what you are doing. 3n1 is great for finding structure once your over your reef, around bridges and canals with a drop off. Hope to get to do a bass run with you once wouldbe awesome. Thanks again #seapro239 🛥🎣🇺🇲
Great stuff brother!!! Awesome info. 👍👍
Great explanation! Recommend your vids all the time when folks ask about sounder stuff
AWESOME! I really appreciate that brother please keep it going!!😁😁😁😁😁
Great video!
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@@MikeSmedleyOLDSCHOOLSTRIPERS ours boat came with the B175L transducer...appears our frequency options are narrow/limited with that. I guess we'll be in a decent spot for those canyon runs though 😀