What about the The Extremely Large Telescope, in Paranal, Chile, in the Atacama desert? For a moment I thought that one was the one you were referring to that is actually under construction in that country.
The TMT will observe the Northern sky, whereas the European ELT in Chile will observe the Southern sky. The Northern sky actually has more galaxies observable, because the centre of our own Galaxy takes up a good chunk of the Southern sky. Furthermore, the Mauna Kea site probably has the best astronomical conditions in the world thanks to its altitude and location in the middle of the Pacific. Accessibility, clear weather and political stability (??) are also attributes.
WHY didn't the designers match or slightly creat a design larger than the European VLT - which is around 39.3 meters? With all of the partners this telescope has, why not make it 10 m larger?
What do I think? I think that the builders and users of the Webb telescope would agree with near nothing in this video and that this project may never be completed.
we were told the JWST was the all singing and dancing telescope, which provides the greatest views and sees further back in time than anything else. Yet here we are wasting umpteen billions of dollars while the world is falling apart !!!
JWST is no different than anything else you have ever bought in your life. I’m sure you were told your phone was the best phone ever when it came out. Things will only be the “best” until the next thing comes along. BTW JWST was designed in the late 90’s I believe and construction started 2004. So it’s already almost 20 years old.
A few other things. JWST had 344 single points of failure before it became fully operational, cost $10 billion dollars and not trillions and NASAs budget is 0.5% of the US economy and I’m sure the roughly 20,000 people it employed before launch didn’t consider it wasted.
Video titled "Battle to Build TMT". Doesn't mention actual disagreement over construction until 8:27, and then only as a side note. "Construction was halted by some Hawaiian natives." Then you lied. "The US Supreme Court ruled in favor of TMT." The US Supreme Court has no rulings about TMT. Hawaiian courts have rulings about the telescopes on the mountain though, most of them not flattering for management. But viewers of this video wouldn't know any of that as this covers literally nothing of the content it purports to.
@tarrable yea go watch Ku ha'aheo and jam for mauna kea cause that's false....8 years ago they said theey were gonna do this, then 4 years ago...still nothing. we are still standing and still presenting facts that cnanot be denied that go against the building of TMT...you cannot deny the lies we have been told and you cannot deny the desecration that has happened not just to that mountain..TMT has crossed the line.
well spending more time in the present might be better for everyone. because tomorrow is a maybe, yesterday is gone and all we really have is today. spending like this would be nice if everyone had a place to sleep and food to eat, but they do not soooo this is a waste of time and money. wish in one hand and poop in the other and see switch one fills up first and we need to get the poop out of our hands
@@einarcharleslarsen yes, sports are a waste of money and the only reason they exist. build a smaller one and spin it up 100 miles or 60 and spin them up in a net
@@petepop4319 Good, then we agree about the sports religion's waste of money, but it's rather misconceived, to wait to build bigger telescopes until all the world's problems have been solved. If people are generally more inspired to think about their place in cosmos, and understand our whole reality in a bigger picture, instead of being tempted to become a member of a Flat Earth society or the like, then the world's problems will also fade away time. The less we locking ourself insides a small cosmic home, and the more we expand our horizons, the more we advance as a cosmic race. I know this from experience, as I started astronomy as a hobby when I was 4 years old. I have long since understood that our little cosmic house we call Earth cannot help us with all our problems. The tragicomic thing in this context is that environmental activists call our planet "Mother Earth", but they expect this mother to breastfeed them forever. I've written a book about this, but I can't post the link to you, as youtube doesn't accept links in comments.
@@einarcharleslarsen sports are useless, if you need to watch struggle, watch the wars around the world. pro sports is a stain on humanity and am sports that feeds pro is worse, all hail the gladiators of the 21 century. Slavery the rich pay for, just to show you much pain pays and moves this world of idiots.
Construction has long ceased and as a Hawai'i Islander, I can assure you that the 30 Meter will NEVER be built on Mauna Kea. Enough already.... the Keck, Gemini, Subaru and 10 others already exist with 4 of those now set for removal. They scar this site, sacred to the indigenous kanaka maoli. Put them in orbit or the Atacama.
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What about the The Extremely Large Telescope, in Paranal, Chile, in the Atacama desert? For a moment I thought that one was the one you were referring to that is actually under construction in that country.
It got hit by a meteor
That's a European agency telescope it's under construction now. Different techs for each I guess
The TMT will observe the Northern sky, whereas the European ELT in Chile will observe the Southern sky. The Northern sky actually has more galaxies observable, because the centre of our own Galaxy takes up a good chunk of the Southern sky. Furthermore, the Mauna Kea site probably has the best astronomical conditions in the world thanks to its altitude and location in the middle of the Pacific. Accessibility, clear weather and political stability (??) are also attributes.
We need this baby out in space!
Can’t put a thirty meter mirror into space
The Supreme Court never made any rulings regarding TMT. The Hawaii State Supreme Court did.
The construction site shown at 3:30 is for the Giant Magellan Telescope, located in the Atacama region of Northern Chile...
But the ELT is not larger, which has a 39-meter mirror and an 80-meter-high dome in the Atacama Desert.
I'm glad as my country BHARAT aka INDIA is also in this joint venture project...
WHY didn't the designers match or slightly creat a design larger than the European VLT - which is around 39.3 meters? With all of the partners this telescope has, why not make it 10 m larger?
So 30 m ( as in Thirty Meter Telescope) is larger than the ELT with 39m? Well done american education system.
HAHAHAHA
As an American we ignore anything that isn’t in America lol
Need a stadium size telescope
southern already have vlt next elt and gmt, we need northern elt
It would be located in Hawaii or Chile
What do I think? I think that the builders and users of the Webb telescope would agree with near nothing in this video and that this project may never be completed.
Why?
@@akyhne Funding, political in-fighting and the ones the Russians and Chinese are building.
we were told the JWST was the all singing and dancing telescope, which provides the greatest views and sees further back in time than anything else. Yet here we are wasting umpteen billions of dollars while the world is falling apart !!!
JWST is no different than anything else you have ever bought in your life. I’m sure you were told your phone was the best phone ever when it came out. Things will only be the “best” until the next thing comes along. BTW JWST was designed in the late 90’s I believe and construction started 2004. So it’s already almost 20 years old.
A few other things. JWST had 344 single points of failure before it became fully operational, cost $10 billion dollars and not trillions and NASAs budget is 0.5% of the US economy and I’m sure the roughly 20,000 people it employed before launch didn’t consider it wasted.
World fallen apart!?
No, one is all singing and the other is all dancing. Different capabilities.
It’s di one am building in my back patio yard dudes
Go go go
Hubble webb cgi
Video titled "Battle to Build TMT".
Doesn't mention actual disagreement over construction until 8:27, and then only as a side note.
"Construction was halted by some Hawaiian natives."
Then you lied.
"The US Supreme Court ruled in favor of TMT."
The US Supreme Court has no rulings about TMT. Hawaiian courts have rulings about the telescopes on the mountain though, most of them not flattering for management.
But viewers of this video wouldn't know any of that as this covers literally nothing of the content it purports to.
not going to happen because the Hawaiian people don't want it.
A small vocal minority don’t want it
@tarrable yea go watch Ku ha'aheo and jam for mauna kea cause that's false....8 years ago they said theey were gonna do this, then 4 years ago...still nothing. we are still standing and still presenting facts that cnanot be denied that go against the building of TMT...you cannot deny the lies we have been told and you cannot deny the desecration that has happened not just to that mountain..TMT has crossed the line.
well spending more time in the present might be better for everyone. because tomorrow is a maybe, yesterday is gone and all we really have is today. spending like this would be nice if everyone had a place to sleep and food to eat, but they do not soooo this is a waste of time and money. wish in one hand and poop in the other and see switch one fills up first and we need to get the poop out of our hands
You mixing up things. Do you think that way also about All the hundreds of thousands of large and small sports complexes around the world?
@@einarcharleslarsen yes, sports are a waste of money and the only reason they exist. build a smaller one and spin it up 100 miles or 60 and spin them up in a net
@@petepop4319 Good, then we agree about the sports religion's waste of money, but it's rather misconceived, to wait to build bigger telescopes until all the world's problems have been solved. If people are generally more inspired to think about their place in cosmos, and understand our whole reality in a bigger picture, instead of being tempted to become a member of a Flat Earth society or the like, then the world's problems will also fade away time. The less we locking ourself insides a small cosmic home, and the more we expand our horizons, the more we advance as a cosmic race. I know this from experience, as I started astronomy as a hobby when I was 4 years old. I have long since understood that our little cosmic house we call Earth cannot help us with all our problems. The tragicomic thing in this context is that environmental activists call our planet "Mother Earth", but they expect this mother to breastfeed them forever. I've written a book about this, but I can't post the link to you, as youtube doesn't accept links in comments.
@@einarcharleslarsen sports are useless, if you need to watch struggle, watch the wars around the world. pro sports is a stain on humanity and am sports that feeds pro is worse, all hail the gladiators of the 21 century. Slavery the rich pay for, just to show you much pain pays and moves this world of idiots.
Construction has long ceased and as a Hawai'i Islander, I can assure you that the 30 Meter will NEVER be built on Mauna Kea. Enough already.... the Keck, Gemini, Subaru and 10 others already exist with 4 of those now set for removal. They scar this site, sacred to the indigenous kanaka maoli. Put them in orbit or the Atacama.