At 04:20 you mention that you dont want to have your monsters in line (to avoid a cannon hitting more than obe dragon at once), I think you need not worry. It is in the rules. A monstrous creature or behemoth stop a cannon ball from bouncing further.
@@Wizbitone i checked the rulebook. Look for "cannon fire" p. 226 under section 5. Crunch: Sometimes, a bouncing cannonball will encounter something that stops it dead: If the cannonball hits a model whose troop type is monstrous creature or behemoth, it stops immediately. No further models are hit. If the cannonball hits impassable terrain or a high linear obstacle, it stops immediately. No further models are hit. 5. Crunch: Sometimes, a bouncing cannonball will encounter something that stops it dead: If the cannonball hits a model whose troop type is monstrous creature or behemoth, it stops immediately. No further models are hit. If the cannonball hits impassable terrain or a high linear obstacle, it stops immediately. No further models are hit. Please let me know if I am wrong.
Amazing report. I liked the more competitive lists. (I think bretonia can field something way stronger still). Maybe chaos also with 2 dragons, 2 spawns and some msu berserkers :)
"The Heralds of Darkness List isn't inspiring. It's not bad" Hard disagree there. I'm sorry, but it's laughably bad. 2/3 of it's "Special Rules" are literally just limitations with no benefits. Plus you have to take 33% Core instead of 25% limiting the points you can spend on better units elsewhere in the list. It only gets a single new unit with the Chosen Chariot, which IS a good unit for sure (Mostly due to the fact it has Counter Charge), but getting only one new unit when you look at the Wolves of the Sea getting 3 or 4 is absurd. The army itself doesn't even give you a unique gameplay feel. Everything you can do with the Heralds of Darkness you can do with the Grand Army. Re-rolling 1's on Charge, Flee and Pursue just isn't nearly good enough as the ONLY Special Rule the Army of Infamy gets to make it worthwhile to take.
Yeah it for sure is not good - a disapointment. The fact I can't take the Chosen Chariot in the grand army is also feelsbad. I'll be sticking with the Grand Army and maybe Wolves at some point in future when I get that many marauders painted up. The challenge rule is great fun and marauder berserkers and huscarls are fine variations on the marauder template.
@@BlastastiC I feel like they only didn't let you take the Chosen Chariot in the main army because they felt they already gave the heralds so little. I can't put my Lord on a Chosen Chariot for basically no reason.
You’re right it is very meh. Might be slightly better with the unique items, but marginally so. Just go one gigantic knight with all the lords and the rest chariots. No finesse, no options, no play, no good
I cant see how they didnt ATLEAST increase the amount of chosen knights to 1/1000pts. Dont know if that would have made the army better. But atleast cooler.
Love the channel. But Not a fan of this report. lists are severely unbalanced. 1 dragon alone is fine but 3 is just too skewed. Doesnt make for an interesting BR imo. Only way lukka stood a chance was if his wm preformed perfectly every round.
Well I dont mind personaly. Trippel dragon is an interesting experiment. And sure. Bretts could have tooled up for maximum monsterslaying. But this will still be nice to see.
@@dccodyofficial i think bretonia has very unique ways to deal with dragons and should come out on top. Also there is a significant difference between lord on dragon vs the warp fire dragon.
@@MountainMiniatures think I'm wrong lol? How else is he supposed to kill 3 dragons, or at least have a decent chance at that. I think we all learned from WFB that cannons are not nearly as reliable monster killers as other characters/monsters. The barons and paladin may have well been fighting with wood sticks
Bro. One Baron had the virtue of heroism, which is perfect for killing dragons. The other had the Frontier Axe (S+2, AP -3, Multiple Wounds 2) which is one of the best magical weapons in the game. He literally is running better versions of the two things you mentioned in your post!
At 04:20 you mention that you dont want to have your monsters in line (to avoid a cannon hitting more than obe dragon at once), I think you need not worry. It is in the rules. A monstrous creature or behemoth stop a cannon ball from bouncing further.
Don’t think that rule is in this edition.
@@Wizbitone i checked the rulebook. Look for "cannon fire" p. 226 under section 5. Crunch: Sometimes, a bouncing cannonball will encounter something that stops it dead:
If the cannonball hits a model whose troop type is monstrous creature or behemoth, it stops immediately. No further models are hit.
If the cannonball hits impassable terrain or a high linear obstacle, it stops immediately. No further models are hit.
5. Crunch: Sometimes, a bouncing cannonball will encounter something that stops it dead:
If the cannonball hits a model whose troop type is monstrous creature or behemoth, it stops immediately. No further models are hit.
If the cannonball hits impassable terrain or a high linear obstacle, it stops immediately. No further models are hit.
Please let me know if I am wrong.
@@Justin_Sane3000 top man! Totally missed that! Thanks 🙏
I actually think they may have been more worried about a scatter from the Trebuchets. Why risk scattering into another dragon?
Your yomen could have possibly used peasantry to test on the LD of your foot knights, then with warband would have been LD 10
Triple dragon! Hell yeah
After the warpfire dragon charged the yeomen, I think you guys forgot to remove the ones which died to the stomp.
Charge! Just charge! :D
Loving the battle reports, thank you. Were the chaos horsemen "skirmishers" despite being in movement trays?
Yes
Amazing report. I liked the more competitive lists. (I think bretonia can field something way stronger still). Maybe chaos also with 2 dragons, 2 spawns and some msu berserkers :)
Arent Berserkers Wolves of the Sea exklusive?
Yes you're right. But still a list like this with wolfes of sea is possible
Stronger? or down-right broken a$$ rules writing that toxic players abuse?? 🤷🤦
Could Luka take his last turn shot due to the misfire on the previous turn? Just an academic question.
the camera just kills it.
Second to none.....No insult
1:17:47 don't they have veteran? You could have rerolled the terror check.
Never mind.
"The Heralds of Darkness List isn't inspiring. It's not bad" Hard disagree there. I'm sorry, but it's laughably bad. 2/3 of it's "Special Rules" are literally just limitations with no benefits. Plus you have to take 33% Core instead of 25% limiting the points you can spend on better units elsewhere in the list. It only gets a single new unit with the Chosen Chariot, which IS a good unit for sure (Mostly due to the fact it has Counter Charge), but getting only one new unit when you look at the Wolves of the Sea getting 3 or 4 is absurd. The army itself doesn't even give you a unique gameplay feel. Everything you can do with the Heralds of Darkness you can do with the Grand Army. Re-rolling 1's on Charge, Flee and Pursue just isn't nearly good enough as the ONLY Special Rule the Army of Infamy gets to make it worthwhile to take.
Yeah it for sure is not good - a disapointment. The fact I can't take the Chosen Chariot in the grand army is also feelsbad. I'll be sticking with the Grand Army and maybe Wolves at some point in future when I get that many marauders painted up. The challenge rule is great fun and marauder berserkers and huscarls are fine variations on the marauder template.
@@BlastastiC
I feel like they only didn't let you take the Chosen Chariot in the main army because they felt they already gave the heralds so little. I can't put my Lord on a Chosen Chariot for basically no reason.
@@thebestbucketheadorcs can’t take a black orc chariot outside nomadic waagh
You’re right it is very meh. Might be slightly better with the unique items, but marginally so. Just go one gigantic knight with all the lords and the rest chariots. No finesse, no options, no play, no good
I cant see how they didnt ATLEAST increase the amount of chosen knights to 1/1000pts.
Dont know if that would have made the army better. But atleast cooler.
Love the channel. But Not a fan of this report. lists are severely unbalanced. 1 dragon alone is fine but 3 is just too skewed. Doesnt make for an interesting BR imo. Only way lukka stood a chance was if his wm preformed perfectly every round.
Well I dont mind personaly.
Trippel dragon is an interesting experiment. And sure. Bretts could have tooled up for maximum monsterslaying. But this will still be nice to see.
@@dccodyofficial i think bretonia has very unique ways to deal with dragons and should come out on top. Also there is a significant difference between lord on dragon vs the warp fire dragon.
Wrong
aweful Bretonnian list, no magic weapons on characters?!? Bret characters get the most milage from Ogre blade and Dragon Slaying sword
lol k
@@MountainMiniatures think I'm wrong lol? How else is he supposed to kill 3 dragons, or at least have a decent chance at that. I think we all learned from WFB that cannons are not nearly as reliable monster killers as other characters/monsters. The barons and paladin may have well been fighting with wood sticks
Bro. One Baron had the virtue of heroism, which is perfect for killing dragons. The other had the Frontier Axe (S+2, AP -3, Multiple Wounds 2) which is one of the best magical weapons in the game. He literally is running better versions of the two things you mentioned in your post!
@Smadders ok I missed that Frontier axe, thanks for clarification
@@stuntman083 Virtue of heroism is a better dragon slaying sword
First!
Love you guys but got to say...
Please stop doing extended horn noises. It's actually annoying and intrusive. Please.
On the contrary, the more horns of Gondor sounded, the better (when playing as Bretonnia and sounding the magical horn thingy)
I think they should bring an actual horn and blow it. And if they fail to properly blow it, it auto-counts as a failed use.
@@cp1cupcake I would approve of that
What?? 😅 hardly a hardship mate