I'll never understand fans that forget that actors are just people living their own lives too, not their property or whatever parasocial delusions they might have 😢 Fanservice can be soo cringey and I hate when it feels like they're forced to have any intimate moments, even if just friendly. 'OMG, they touched shoulders!' Sheesh.... Anyway, love these q&a's and congrats on POT! 🎾😊
The actors and film makers do it as well. You see them purposely hanging all over each other without fans asking for it. that's because they want their product to be successful. You can't just blame the fans when the film makers understand the actors getting shipped helps make their movies or TV shows more successful. So they "show off" when in public for exactly that reason.
I think it might be one of those chicken and the egg things. Maybe fans spotted a real spontaneous 'moment', reacted to it and that made people want to do fan service to generate a similar response. Or maybe fan-service came first.
I agree here. I am gay and I find it cringey when fanservice gets too touchy and they are not interested and I can feel that. I don't know enough about BL actors but my experience with Kpop is similar when they played the pepero stick candy games or the use your mouths only to transfer this paper. It just feels off...
It’s hella cringey, I would prefer to see legit LGBTQIA+ actors playing main lead BL roles and the straight actors can either do the side support or keep doing the Lakorns.
I am so glad that the only thing I've ever tweeted at you is "The most relatable part of Cutie Pie is Perth trying to eat his own bills, because same bro, same." Some of the things I see "fans" tweet at actors... I just want to walk up to them and go "Would you say this to their faces? No? Then shut up." It's just social decency.
True, some people are brave or stuipid, I don't know which one it is, like yes I've caught myself thinking some intresting ish and ocassionally even give myself a golly for it but if it was sth funny that still wasn't worth to put out in the world...momentarily I have the luxury of a colleague who has fallen into the same entertainment and therefore understands. But, I too, lived years without that 2 and sometimes am as surprised and am like "Seriously guys, you do realize that they do read and understand that?!" "I sometimes really don't want to know what our favourite Artists thinks what's going in the heads of their audiences!" It goes from "lol not wrong but did you have to put that online? Gonna be so embarrassing in xy time!" to "This now in the end is just delulu and 2nd hand embarrseement!" (and most likey that are the softest of them) because I left blue bird Island a long time ago....
One of my best memories is from when I first joined twitter and I had decided that I would follow only 10 people. So when I followed the 11th, I unfollowed and @ the guy "sorry, but u have exceeded my limit so I am unfollowing you". And well, he retweeted it with "sorry to hear that I was rejected and I hope it will work out next time" or something to that effect and it's been 15 years and it still keeps me up at night lmfao. P.S. he is a pretty famous actor. The Male Lead of Warehouse 13 (I don't remember his name). He was replaced by Nathan Fillion in my list lmao.
As always, I appreciated how sincerely you answered each question. Granted, you speak from your own experience however I do believe that it gives us a great insight in the industry whose products we consume. I also appreciated that you mentioned the s. harassment that the actors are constantly being putting through since it quite often, feels way too out of control (my guess is that sometimes, some people, forget that you guys are human being that will see that specific comment!). So again, thank you Perth for the video and good luck with your projects in Japan!
I think the kind of interesting thing is that I don't think the people saying those things would say them to you if they met you in real life. But since everything is online there's a sense of anonymity and also they might not think that the actors actually read their comments (we do).
"It's just people loving people" you are so right and you're such a sweetheart! I REALLY want to see you in more works because you're a good actor and a lovely guy. Congratulations for being in "Prince of Tennis" musical. Love from Brazil!
Whenever I think of fan-service, my mind just goes, “Why?, just why?” Personally for me, the couple starts and ends with the series. Shipping actor’s is weird. People need to be able to separate the actor’s from the character’s they play. I honestly do not get why they make something so simple, so complicated. Anyways, great video. It was a great way to end my day.❤
10:59 speaking as a bi person with some gender fluidity, at the core it is very simply a person loving another person. The differences are superficial and also come down to the individual. Gender is an aspect of a person but there are so many other factors. You don't love them because they're a girl or a guy, you love them for the person they are. When you describe the things about someone you love, many of those things won't be gender-specific, for some examples, a sense of humour, kindness, passion for art, dedication to their family or their business, shared values, adventurous, quiet... Anyone can be those things.
exactly! 🙌 when someone asks that question "what did you first notice/were first attracted to... ?" who says "he was a boy/she was a girl" ? it might be something physical yes, but not that they were purely a 'male/female'.
@@kristalclearly9777because it goes without saying. It's different for bi people since they are attracted to both genders but for straight or gay people it is the first thing, which is so basic that it doesn't need to be mentioned. You are just not gonna see any other characteristics in a romantic light otherwise. We form our first impressions of people in the first 10 seconds. We decide if we are attracted to them in that time too. So yeah, you notice a nice smile, a good sense of humor etc but it's always in regards to platonic or romantic feelings (friendships or sexual/romantic relationships).
This is all of course true, but I think most people are more skeptical about straight people playing gay roles because straight people won't ever fully understand the nuances of homophobia and discrimination that gay and LGBTQ+ people in general face, as well as just the complex identities they formed growing up that straight people just didn't experience and thus would kind of only gain some sort of understanding by talking to queer friends. Thus, people think straight people may not completely get the character their playing, which is a fair concern. However, when the characters someone's playing don't really deal with the complexities of a queer identity in a drama, as Perth's really haven't, then I think the concern about straight people playing them can be soothed since a straight actor could understand them more easily.
Really enjoyed your video! I'm an old lady (56 now, ugh) from Kentucky, but I love watching all sorts of shows from lots of different countries. Thanks for sharing all your knowledge about the Thai BL industry. Also, congratulations on your new project! Imaging the difficulty of just being in a musical, but adding to singing, acting, and dancing you are throwing in another language AND a sport?? That's amazing! Good luck to you, young one!
@@catmacg I'm just outside of Lexington in Georgetown. Nice to see another BL fan since I was certain I was it. :D I visit my Kpop friend in Lville occasionally.
I agree that recently actors have calmed down with the fanservice and I appreciate it a lot. As you've said some like it and some don't, I personally just like to see the cast getting along, including the lead couple but putting on an act for fans usually feels weird to me, especially because it creates such a problematic interaction between fans who do and the ones who don't like it meaning especially the ones that do like it also always "fall" for it in the sense that they throw big words like homophobia around whenever people tell them that it's in fact just fan service and that said actors have neither confirmed nor denied dating or even being into people of the same sex. As you've said, it's cool just taking it with a pinch of salt and having fun with it but unfortunately there will always be people reading way too much into it and genuinely believing these interactions to be true without there being any form of confirmation. But I feel like recently it has calmed down, everyone is just promoting their shows, having fun and getting along in a friendly way which is so fun to watch.
This video was really interesting and I always love to get your honest and fresh perspective on what's going on with the industry but the real reason I had to make a comment is... Perth you are absolutely GLOWING right now. Drop the skin care routine ASAP😂
At the beginning I did not know of fan service, so I thought everything is genuine and they are together in real life. 😂 But honestly, I’d rather there would be no fan service pressure at all. Fans have gone too crazy because of fan service. Going to the extent of hating specific actors because they broke the “couple” and decided to act in straight dramas only or couple with someone else. Some fans forget that actors just do their jobs at the end of the day. Or fans hating on the actor’s real life partners because of the show “couple”. This is just wrong. If I like an actor I like him or her for their talent and for how they portray a role. Some fans just want to dictate everything that the actor is doing in his or her life.
thank you so much for sharing your thoughts and personal experiences, the way you’re always talking about your job is so mesmerizing. honestly you’re always so respectful with every topic you talk about and i really agree with the way your think about the bl industry, wishing you the best in your future projects!
You are one of my favourite actors (note *ACTORS) in the world because you seem like a very wholesome human being! I have loved your acting in everything I've seen you in. But I think I particularly like you because of UA-cam and the philosophy you bring with every BL-themed video on here. You are also very handsome. Thank you! 😊
Love that you pointed out the BL stories have become more complex. I think in the past the themes were quite repetitive and kind of one dimensional but now the stories have so much depth and character development and that’s been my favorite part of the evolution of BL. I’m also so so happy that GLs are becoming more of a thing because queer girls deserve representation too!! That being said regarding the comment about “mature content” I think it makes sense when it fits the story, but sometimes it does feel forced and when it’s forced it leaves a bad taste in my mouth. The great thing is that because there’s so many BLs you can really choose what fits your preferences, there’s plenty of soft and cute dramas and there’s plenty that have mature content as well (and by mature I mean not just sex but themes that include violence, trauma, etc).
Thank you for taking the time to talk with us and help us understand the BL industry a little more. I have a few thoughts to share as a BL fan. Fan Service - I find it confusing because sometimes it looks so real and come to find out it's "fake", so it leaves me with a not very good impression. Mature Content - I personally feel less is better than more about how explicit a scene really needs to be. Unless it truly fits the story in an authentic way. Most of the time a more tasteful thoughtful scene without everything being shown, is way more expressive and emotionally fulfilling as the viewer. Best of luck with your role in Japan!! PS - I visited Thailand this summer and watched your Thai language video first. Thank you for everything! ❤❤❤
Fan service is not always negative and is not always fake. Even normal people do fan service for a certain reason and level too. Fan service is made by an agreement from the actors of which level they want to show their fans, but those services are NOT always fake. You have to realize which is fake and which is genuine, but if you can't tell by facial expressions and action microscopes then you won't be able to differentiate it. You have to look at their facial expressions and body language, if you see their comfort of being around one another then they are genuine. But if you see stiff body language or slightly a face that aren't "real", then that means it's fan service. However, doing a fan service, both actors have to make an agreement.
For someone who just started watching Thai shows 6 months ago and started watching BLs 5 months ago Cutie Pie and My Engineer was one of the first 5 BLs I binged watched and I have been hooked ever since on anything Thai BL. For me it's my comfort zone. I just love the stories that are told and the different level of intimacy. Thank you for doing this there are a lot that I am still trying to binge between new ones that have come out. It is a lot!
Congratulations on being in Tenimyu! My last time watching tenimyu was in Generation 5. Now you are in it, it’s time to pick up tenimyu again! I have to find out which team you are on. Anyway for recent BL, it’s not just saturated, it’s over saturated so for me, it’s simple, any trailer than doesn’t catch my attention automatically gets pushed down and I wait and watch for stories which trailers catches me. Mature content or not, for me it’s the story. Yeah I can consume mature content for the sake of it but it’s kinda like fast food, people can get bored easily even though it’s yummy, fast and convenient. Great job Perth with the Q&A. Thanks for sharing so much with us!!
i so agree with this!! i too get tired of catching up on everything like back then and now just watch what i feel like i would like because theres just too much 😭
Thank you for this episode Perth! I totally enjoyed the content that you’ve produced on all these BL related stuff! And all the best for your Japanese works, luve ya dude!
First of all, your content is so great. Second of all, you are an amazing host (thinking of your video with Luke). When are we getting more guests on your channel? Loved your answer about love. That's genuine.
Love what you're saying - around the thought that producers have about people wanting more mature content that you mentioned at 20:55, the truth is we as viewers may enjoy more mature content but we don't enjoy it if the acting quality and story isn't there. KinnPorsche was a great balance of an enthralling story, interesting characters, great acting, and intimate moments that made the viewer feel they were seeing people express love, looking behind the curtain. Always needs to be a balance. There are so many BLs that are basically softcore p*rn that the BL audiences collectively disavow as crap.
I think context is everything for whether or not playing a different sexuality would be difficult to do. I have seen plenty of BLs where the setting doesn't have much (or even any) prejudice. In which case I agree that there's virtually no difference to playing a gay or straight character. But if the setting is more realistic, there is something to be said for how to approach a character that may have very different life experiences - being closeted, dealing with bigotry or even violence, internalized homophobia, self-hatred, shame, etc - and how that would affect their personality and ways expressing themselves. It's a different headspace to play a character that has to be constantly concerned with how others see them, being "found out", being stereotyped, etc.
Thank you for coming out and telling us some of this information. Normally on the fan side there is a lot of mis information and also fans claiming to like know how people feel or actors. So it is nice to finally hear it from the source. Thanks for always being an awesome person
So two things: 1) Famous Aussie singer appears to be aware of Thai BL as segments of RUSH were shot in Bangkok ( the dance instructors came from Europe ) and PP.Krit popped up in a scene. 2) I was quite surprised when a BL I started watching was getting steamier and steamier to the point where it seemed to be a bit like clickbait. It didn't advance the plot. I was quite disappointed.
WOW! Congratulations to you getting a musical stage actor! You achieved so much and working in 2 asian languages is amazing. I'm german native speaker studying korean with an english speaking K teacher who is also a K pop singer in Seoul. This opportunity is absolutley the best cultural experience in my life as an author. I'm such grateful and excited. If I were in my 20s I would have studied asian languages and tried hard to work in the industry as a writer or ... whatever. This era should have been mine! You can be proud going your way I believe its your destination. By the way, I think you are looking cute ... manly cute ... and you have a good charisma also in you tube which is of course different to the series. Thanks for your work💖My best wishes to you from Austria, Europe
When you mentioned that nowadays there are so many bl series coming out that we can't finish them unless we use all our free time watching bl to finish half of it I chocked on air 😂 Me as a free student who goes to school rarely with 67% attendance and spends all her free time watching bl, I can't even finish a bl drama in 3 days 🥲 Or maybe it's cause I start rewatching my old ones-
I would just like to say that I am doing my master's thesis about the LGBT community in Thailand and I have a chapter dedicated to the BL industry and these videos have been very helpful within my work as great evidence from someone who has experienced the industry, so I would just like to thank you so much for this. I've been learning Thai but I am still only on a basic level, so having this input in English and like first hand knowledge is really going to help with my paper. You are a life saver and I absolutely love all your work, and I can't wait to see what you do next!
I think Intouch did an amazing job with that show! Some fan service is over the top, as an adult i enjoy seeing my ship together but also i know the difference from reality and entertainment. Love is love!
Hi Perth! I’ve been following Bl for about a year, and I love your videos. Your video on names and honourifics really helped me. My husband is Asian so I understand some things about culture and the importance of certain practices. This video was very interesting and helpful too. Thank you.
The thing about the sex sells (I know you covered it with "mature content" but let's call it what it is), it's true that having intimate scenes in a series makes people talk and even watch it. We've seen it with some series going viral beyong the BL community. Personally, I don't mind intimate scenes but sometimes it's quite obvious they're added just to "satisfy" a certain audience. I wish BL producers would focus more on writing complex characters and leave out these scenes that are just there to make people scream at their screens. Or rather implement them better into the story. There's a series currently airing that perfectly does that, it's a fun watch while also offering great plot and drama. It's all about being authentic while still making something fun or exciting. We've come a long way since those early BLs and at this point there's some really great stuff out there. I hope we'll continue to make good content and not add scenes without context just for one sole purpose
@TheNychthemeronThing Only Friends. While they have a lot of 18+ scenes in the beginning they later on focus on the characters and make it emotionally dramatic
I started watching bl in 2018, back then I watched basically anything I could get my hands on 😅, but for the last couple of years the quality of a lot of shows has dropped because there are now so many being produced. But the quality of the good ones has definitely improved since 2018, there is now a large variety of storylines and characters. I don’t really mind fan service but I don’t pay much attention to it, I prefer just to watch the drama, I do watch a lot of kpop fan service though so my views are a bit conflicted. I don’t like forced fan service, I am also not a fan of fan service that is portrayed as being real or ambiguous.
Great questions! Even better answers! I am so happy you are in a musical! This is gonna be crazzyyyy!!! the only sad part is that i dont get to watch it! Hope you have fun!!!
Awesome video! Love you insight into the acting world and Thai Industry. Also I saw you in Prince of Tennis, you did soo good! I didn’t except you to sing so well! 😅❤
I'm French and I've been watching BL for 2 years and fan service is something that makes me smile and for me it's fictional. but also uncomfortable because I find it very toxic for the actors. Unfortunately many no longer know the difference between the characters and the actors. The actors don't "belong to us" Even though I like to see pairings play again, sometimes changing pairings each time would perhaps avoid this. for Mature content, as long as it's not a BL with just sex scenes without a storyline that's no problem for me. Kinnporsche is the good example, having a mature BL the scenario is more accomplished and we have more complex characters. For me, in addition to university BL, nothing happens and I have the impression that the actors are restricted in their acting. They have to remain cute and at 25-30 years old they are no longer teenagers physically and it shows
Thanks for the Q&A! It was really interesting. "Unless you're super duper famous, beggars can't be choosers." This makes a lot of sense haha I also love what you said about people loving people, I don't think I've heard from a lot...or from any Japanese 2.5D actors talk about their thoughts like that but it would be great if you could be open about that in Japanese too. Unless you're somehow not allowed to be (in Japanese(??)) Anyway!! Good luck at Osaka and see you at the end of your Tokyo run!! Can't wait to see you sing and dance about tennis!
Thank you for taking the time to answer questions for us. We truly appreciate. Many hugs, Z. Allora (Side note: I adore all your characters. Bravo!) PS I'm a level 46 trainer. Go Valor! (Just noticed your mic & remembered you enjoyed the game)
It's so interesting to hear about your perspective from a thai (bl) actor himself! I personally mostly dislike fanservice, especially when the actors are forced to do things they are not really comfortable with it, but do it bc they know the fans love it + their series get more recognition. Also, fake/pretend relationships are so awkward. I do love real life chemistry though, whether that's just because you are great friends, have a close bond, or in some cases, a more romantic connection. It's just nice seeing people work together and actually having fun together! 11:21 "we are all going to die anyway" 😂 But seriously, I've always said this myself; as long as you are not hurting someone, just do whatever you want/makes you happy! Congrats on your role in a musical 🎉
I am rooting for natural chemistry only like you do but I think they've already got it that it's way much better and more successful that way so they created those workshops for actors to give them time to adjust and dig deeper in the connection they have. So it's happening. It's not so depressing if you think about it. Basically most actors have an intention of being really friendly, lovable and understanding of each other and it's not for the sake of money or fame, it's for genuine purposes. For us.
Thank you for the Q&A Perth, always appreciate how straightforward you are. Kinnporsche being my first BL, you were one of the first actors i was introduced to. Wish you lots more success in the future and 🤞 I'd love to see you in a new ship. ❤❤❤❤
I’m voicing out then: I don’t like fan service because I feel like although you can ship people healthily, many people cannot, then you have cases of it coming out that one person in the ship is dating someone else and they get death threats and harassment. Fan service definitely contributes to people’s feeling of entitlement inside a relationship they are not in. Like, when the Freen thing came out, I saw people going “oh, poor Becky, she’s heartbroken” and use that to justify being bad to Freen because she “hurt Becky”, as if she was cheating on her, but we have nothing to do with their personal lives and, let’s be real, most likely Becky was well aware of it always and never cared
Thai BLs will always hold a special place in my heart. Back when there was almost no representation, Love of Siam was a story about people I could (secretly) relate to for once. I’m happy to see how it has grown more robust
First: You're handsome! Second: About the "Understanding Love", I think that we can't define love as one exactly thing, considering that every experience of love is unique, crossed by the personal feelings and understandings of the parts, and that's exactly why a "straight love" is different of other types, even if is love anyway. I think this way because there will be social and cultural differences (like moral, mores, violence, acceptance) that will interfere the feelings that envolve this love and his parts, like a fear of show this love, the social coexistence with family, friends, and even the places that will be frequented. I don't know if I make me understanding. Really like your channel and sorry if there's grammatical errors, I'm brazilan.
I usually give a BL about 2 eps, if it doesn't give me the right enjoyment...I don't take the time to watch the rest. There are some really good BLs and some awful ones. most though, are in the middle-ish. And thank goodness there are non school BLs coming into vogue. Thanks, Perth! I enjoyed this video!
Love your channel. Just here to tell your followers that there is another group of fans of BL series. Yes we retired people over 60 😍Many of us older folks are only discovering BL. Unlike your younger followers we see BL series as a wonderful travel back in time. The stories, places, fashion and styles may be different but the emotions of gay love, the hunting, the jealousy and finally finding the person you love remains the same. Keep up the good work and hope to see as a very successful actor soon. 😍😍😍
This hairstyle is perfect for you, you look totally different ... interesting questions and smart answers ... pleasant time spent with you on the screen ... enjoy your new role, good luck
Can we talk about how amazing Perth look in this video? I needed to watch the first minutes again because I didn't listen because he looks so handsome. I love his hair like that so much. Ok, back to thr content. I really love how honestly perth speaks about the industry and about fanservice. I hope there will be more videos like this in the future. And also great questions. I love perths kind of view about love. Such a great guy. I really want to know which novel he reads for a series. 😂 Great video. Love it!
Regarding the "more mature content", I want more, for two reasons. I'm a little bit older than Perth and I'm not comfortable watching high school aged romances onscreen, regardless of the age of the actors. And by mature content, similar to what Perth said, I mean mature themes, adult storylines, adult interactions. The 🌶 content is great, and I want more of it, but I also want it to make sense and add to the overall story. Although, I don't know the age of, specifically GMMTV's, target audience. If their target demographic is ages 12-19 females, then yeah. I get the plethora of high school set shows.
I feel like the fan service debacle can clearly divide fandom, and from what Ive noticed, international fans are the ones who don't need/want fan service, who don't care about it, while the Thai fans want it, sometimes even demand it. It seems to me like a lot of Thai fans can't distinguish between onscreen stuff and reality.
It also seems quite connected to the age of the fans, from what I've observed. Some younger fans seem to have less awareness of fan service being part of people's job.
Actually, it's more about the age of the fans. Not all Thai fans want fan service, I mean, they do enjoy it at some certain levels but not all wants it. And like I said, it's about the age of the fans, younger fans seems less aware of fan service being part of the actor's job. The older fans are very aware of it, they can differentiate whether the pairing's relationship is real or fan service. They enjoy it at certain levels of fan service and some likes to joke with actors about the actors being in a relationship, it's a way of their joking and dream, that's all. Yes, they want their pairings to date for real but they also know the limits too. Younger fans are less aware.
I legit nearly screamed when I heard you'll be in the Prince of Tennis musical! I've been a fan of Prince of Tennis for several years, musicals included and hearing you say you'll be part of the musical literally made my day! I'm going to take a shot in the dark and guess which character you'll be portraying if you'll be in Seigaku and that's Oishi Shuichiro.
Perth, I just want to say that you're awesome. It's hard, in the entertainment world today, who to believe. I love your honesty and candor and wish you nothing but love and success.
Oh, your English is so “clean” that I could understand everything without making pauses and it was a very nice experience. Thanks so much for talking about BL industry and fan service (I hate it 😅).
the real question is when are you gonna be the main character in a BL :) It will be awesome to see more of you hopefully there's an oportunity in the future 🥰
"I think sometimes thai culture can be a little bit less sensitive towards certain social issues." 03:18 Agreed. Several things that are just insensitive and wrong are: 1. The normalization of r@p€. I've seen soooooo many scenes where one guy would steal a kiss or even have s€xx with someone who's completely drunk or asleep. The concept of consent is not very much understood and it's frustrating. 2. The romantization of toxic jealousy. This is so sad that many people find this cute or romantic whatsoever. There are countless scenes where a couple would fight because of unreasonable reasons that are based off jealousy. One person would be so obsessive and manipulate the other person into thinking that he/she has betrayed and ruined the relationship. So tiring. 3. The normalization of predatory, pedophilic behaviors. This unfortunately has been the main plot of so many BL series. One is a minor or someone who's still in their age of development, and one is someone much older, like a highschooler and an older tutor, a freshman and a hot doctor, a student and a teacher, etc. The gaslighting and the power dynamics are just too crazy and upsetting to watch especially when a lot of people think it's okay. This has to end soon. I could go on and on but I think those are three major things to fix ASAP.
This was great, thanks for choosing the questions so thoughtfully...and fans, thanks for asking good questions! Oh, and cheers for shout out to us Aussie BL fans - we really do exist! 😂 🇦🇺
More mature content in BLs? Is that still a BL or is it now a more standard Gay drama, romcom etc.? To me, BL is a romanticised, usually straight young female view of the early stages of an emerging relationship (and all its challenges) between two boys, with lots of hand-holding, flirting, getting to know each other, hanging out etc., going on. It's a safe and sanitised view. The emphasis is on the romance and social aspects and not so much on the sexual aspects of the emerging relationship. The question though is this an accurate reflection of the lived reality of young gay and bisexual men who are entering into a relationship? Is that what they want and what they do? In my opinion, maybe not, and the sexual aspect would be a very important part of their relationship and how they bond. The reality is that young gay and bisexual men have sex with each other, and sometimes a lot. So if BL becomes more 'mature' that is it has more scenes of an intimate physical and sexual nature in it, is it still BL or has it now moved into more gay territory? Having those scenes may be more reflective of the lived reality of young gay and bisexual men and how they express their sexuality, but is it still a BL genre?
I think you're thinking with the Japanese view of BL vs YAOI...? When I feel that "BL dramas" now kind of only refer to a male+male story, whatever the storyline... I've even seen the Heartstopper writer refusing to call her work BL when it enters the genre as it seems to be commonly understood, am I right?
I loved this! The mature series question, I 100 % agree with. Some days I want fluffy, like MSP, some days I want sweet romance, like ATOTS, and other days spicy, like KinnPorsch. However, I don't feel any entertainer should be pushed into doing more then they are comfortable doing. The last question's answer was so honest and I feel the same way. If the scene is just gratuitous, leave it out. I want the romance, the storyline, the emotions. Thanks Perth. ❤❤ from America
How can't I love Perth more? This Q&A was so interesting because his point of view is a nice thing to ear. I'm very grateful for give us a opinion sincere
Really then I don't like the fan service kind of things like when the fans start shipping their favorite bl actors out of the screen, like they really want their ship to be real .they are humans too they need personal space, they should have the freedom to choose their own partners. They are just an actor who is just displaying the characters and should not take the characters as real because it's their work. When the fans really give their minds and soul into it, it becomes difficult for the fans and actors to work with other actors who is not their ship . Which makes the actors to get work or to play new character with new co- actor difficult .
I love how Perth makes his videos omg So informative, structured and funny) I like to listen to your talk while doing housework,so, please we wait for new videos
I love that you take the time to answer completely those questions, and it's really interesting to listen to your own experience! As you said in the video I hate when the fans start to harass the actors, or insist in having more fanservice, not understanding that the actors are all normal people different from the characters they play 😥 Aaand after all thank you for making videos like this, I'm sure I could listen to a podcast from you and your experiences in acting! and congrats on your role in the musical!! ~ PD: in 18:03 were you singing the melody of "yes or yes" by Twice? hehe 🤭
Personally I’m okay with fan service IF it’s not completely forced and uncomfortable for the actors! I like it more when they’re doing it because it’s fun for them or they genuinely enjoy doing it.
First, congrats on Prince of Tennis, as someone who's enjoyed your acting since My Engineer that is really exciting news. Now for my comment: If actors want to do fan service, great. If they don't want to do fan service, also great. What's not great is "fans" bashing actors when they do or don't do fanservice, or when they act with a different partner. As long as the actors involved are happy and not being pressured by "fans"/management into doing or not doing something, I don't think there should be a problem. TLDR: stop being weird af yall
Regarding the last question, I think there's still plenty of innocent school story type of BLs - it's nice to have a range of series to choose from! I've kind of outgrown school stories, but as for innocent vs. steamy, it just depends on what I'm in the mood for. And now I can pick according to my tastes rather than just watching the few crumbs I could find :P
14:19 I get it what you’re saying. Specially whatever stuff happened in Kinnporsche set, including actors who were then underage got harassed by the writers. Not every production has a safe environment. Even if majority people are genuinely good, even one or two people can act inappropriately and ruin the good atmosphere. I hope everyone gets to work in a safer and warmer environment, no matter what their role in the production is.
I wasn't actually referring to a production or on set environment. After watching the video back my explanation wasn't very clear but I was actually referencing comments made by fans directed at myself and other actors. That being said I'm not saying that there aren't issues on sets.
@@PerthNakhun Thanks for clarifying, Perth. Yes I agree about the comments, and there are often malicious comments including harassment related ones. However the good thing is these haters get called out by majority of the fans and it’s good when companies take action including legal action when some fans get too problematic with their comments or actions. Also although I mentioned about the workplace harassment issues I am aware that majority of the people are friendly and kind to each other. However in some companies, from a fan perspective, the whole group including the directors, producers, staff, etc do feel like one big family and I think actors would feel more at ease to give their best performances, whereas in other circumstances this might not be true. It’s natural for fans to not be aware of every behind the scenes issues, so we don’t really have the right to judge, but as long as issues are addressed and properly sorted out it’s fine I guess. 😇
@@PerthNakhun I understood what you meant, some of the comments I've seen are disturbing. For me, the line is blurred of what's okay and what's too personal. Like those channels where idols read thirst tweets... Sometimes it's funny and sometimes it seems really uncomfortable.
He was talking about fans and he was absolutely right but most people out there just choose to ignore that they are actually hurting artists. It's gone crazy and I hate that. And you just proved my point that most fans are just like that. Ignorant even when it is shoved right in their faces.
@@erinskvi don’t think there was a need to have a rude reply, that’s what the tone of your comment gives anyways. it seems they just misinterpreted what was said, it happens, even Perth said his explanation wasn’t as clear.
I found bl shows from watching kdrama and cdrama and I enjoy that they have more mature content from the story line or actual acting. As a married woman sometimes kdrama/cdramas bring out the frustration when ya waiting 20 eps just for a hug. 😂 - though I truly don't get fan service it's not something done where I'm from and it's just odd to me. Actors are acting if there friends in real life brilliant if there not brilliant they did great in the show. I just feel its leading a lot off people down a slippery slope what's real or not.
It's something I find really refreshing in Thai dramas compared with Koreans is they are so much more normal about sex and casual relationships, it's way more realistic and enjoyable! Like I don't need sex scenes all the time but established couples in kdramas should at least kiss and hold hands without the slow motion music and flower petals!
I just come from GMMTV Part 1 content release for 2024 and it’s a shame they a resorting back to high school & college romance series again for 2024, only looking forward to TayNew, OffGun, EarthMix & JossFluke as they have the more mature aged BL’s
I completely agree with this. I joined the stream at 5M on no sleep and watched the whole thing. Longest live stream I've ever watched. I thought I missed this because my ADHD brain thought the premiere was at 9am not 10am lol.
I’m in Australia so it was on 9:30pm to 1am for me and Other then getting to see my baby Nanon sing on stage live it was very disappointing and very very slow.
There's still a lot of interest in high school & college series from fans, plus they are mostly low budget. It's not a bad thing. There's plenty of other genres nowadays.
@@Sharon-fc6lzam 31yrs watched BL series since Sotus, and am still interested in school romances BLs, i love even mature series, but i enjoy cuteness and fluffyness from Thai series.
I’m 33 yrs old Aussie OG BL and Thai Lakorn fan and I think this genre is tired and has been done since this is how I started as a fan in 2014/2015 era of Love Sick & Love of Siam, Ugly Duckling series, Hormones 1,2,3, War of High School etc it’s time to be more diverse and have more mature aged dramas e.g Office or Job Romance, Sci-Fi, Hortor, Supernatural, older LGBTQIA+ series like Wake Up Ladies but more serious just look at how successful Only Friends, Enigma, Midnight Museum, The Jungle, Laws of Attraction, Jun & Jun
honestly... BL did not explode till the pandemic.. so I won't say 5 to 6 years.. I will say BL peaked in popularity during the 2020 to 2021 window with 2gether the series
BL has been out since the 90's. It's been over popular in the last couple of years but it's been around for about 25 years, since the mid 90's from Japan and Sth Korea mostly.
Also congrats to you for realizing all of the awesome opportunities you get as an actor vs. the typical “family dad” you will not regret this time I promise you! I missed out, being a stay at home mom myself even tho I graduated from college with honors. And now I barely just got a job as a front office receptionist. Take the life opportunities you can! Experience as much as possible while you can! Love will be there but it will take a lot of your time so it will be better to have experienced life first and then settle down you will feel like you have lived your life and are ready for the next chapter. So don’t compare yourself to others from your personal life. You’re doing amazing!
I love how casual this video felt, like at the end of it I said "Bye Perth" 😅
Ha! I’m glad I wasn’t the only one 😸
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Like talking to a good friend❤
Fudge, I found myself doing the same thing 😅
can't agree more !
I'll never understand fans that forget that actors are just people living their own lives too, not their property or whatever parasocial delusions they might have 😢 Fanservice can be soo cringey and I hate when it feels like they're forced to have any intimate moments, even if just friendly. 'OMG, they touched shoulders!' Sheesh.... Anyway, love these q&a's and congrats on POT! 🎾😊
The actors and film makers do it as well. You see them purposely hanging all over each other without fans asking for it. that's because they want their product to be successful. You can't just blame the fans when the film makers understand the actors getting shipped helps make their movies or TV shows more successful. So they "show off" when in public for exactly that reason.
I think it might be one of those chicken and the egg things. Maybe fans spotted a real spontaneous 'moment', reacted to it and that made people want to do fan service to generate a similar response. Or maybe fan-service came first.
I agree here. I am gay and I find it cringey when fanservice gets too touchy and they are not interested and I can feel that. I don't know enough about BL actors but my experience with Kpop is similar when they played the pepero stick candy games or the use your mouths only to transfer this paper. It just feels off...
@@PerthNakhun haha love the analogy lol I didn't think of the fans being the ones to instigate it but that could be true.
It’s hella cringey, I would prefer to see legit LGBTQIA+ actors playing main lead BL roles and the straight actors can either do the side support or keep doing the Lakorns.
I love how he's ALSO a UA-camr!!! These Thai BL actors really go above and beyond for us.
I knew him as youtuber
he literally just said that "bl actor" is an odd label.
@@dearbangtan9668is "Thai actor" better?
i just cringed at your comment, can't explain why.
@@বেড়াল same
Don't underestimate the popularity of Ram King! They're pretty much the entire reason we all still want My Engineer 2!
I'm agree with that!!😍😍🤩🤩
RamKing is the only reason I know the show even existed lol
@@moony8086 Me too!!🤣🤣
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But they r not there in the 2nd season ... i am really sad abt this
perth you really should consider creating a podcast, your voice is so soothing to listen to 🩷
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I thought this was a podcast lol
I am so glad that the only thing I've ever tweeted at you is "The most relatable part of Cutie Pie is Perth trying to eat his own bills, because same bro, same." Some of the things I see "fans" tweet at actors... I just want to walk up to them and go "Would you say this to their faces? No? Then shut up."
It's just social decency.
True, some people are brave or stuipid, I don't know which one it is, like yes I've caught myself thinking some intresting ish and ocassionally even give myself a golly for it but if it was sth funny that still wasn't worth to put out in the world...momentarily I have the luxury of a colleague who has fallen into the same entertainment and therefore understands.
But, I too, lived years without that 2 and sometimes am as surprised and am like "Seriously guys, you do realize that they do read and understand that?!" "I sometimes really don't want to know what our favourite Artists thinks what's going in the heads of their audiences!" It goes from "lol not wrong but did you have to put that online? Gonna be so embarrassing in xy time!" to "This now in the end is just delulu and 2nd hand embarrseement!" (and most likey that are the softest of them) because I left blue bird Island a long time ago....
right? I always imagine them seeing my tweets, if I tweet mean things I would be so mortified
One of my best memories is from when I first joined twitter and I had decided that I would follow only 10 people. So when I followed the 11th, I unfollowed and @ the guy "sorry, but u have exceeded my limit so I am unfollowing you". And well, he retweeted it with "sorry to hear that I was rejected and I hope it will work out next time" or something to that effect and it's been 15 years and it still keeps me up at night lmfao.
P.S. he is a pretty famous actor. The Male Lead of Warehouse 13 (I don't remember his name). He was replaced by Nathan Fillion in my list lmao.
@@Furrina89 that's WILDDDD 😭
As always, I appreciated how sincerely you answered each question. Granted, you speak from your own experience however I do believe that it gives us a great insight in the industry whose products we consume. I also appreciated that you mentioned the s. harassment that the actors are constantly being putting through since it quite often, feels way too out of control (my guess is that sometimes, some people, forget that you guys are human being that will see that specific comment!). So again, thank you Perth for the video and good luck with your projects in Japan!
I think the kind of interesting thing is that I don't think the people saying those things would say them to you if they met you in real life. But since everything is online there's a sense of anonymity and also they might not think that the actors actually read their comments (we do).
@@PerthNakhun thank you for caring, we'll try to be better fans too!
Congratulations on the new musical, dear Perth, and thanks for the video! I've missed you!
"It's just people loving people" you are so right and you're such a sweetheart! I REALLY want to see you in more works because you're a good actor and a lovely guy. Congratulations for being in "Prince of Tennis" musical. Love from Brazil!
Whenever I think of fan-service, my mind just goes, “Why?, just why?” Personally for me, the couple starts and ends with the series. Shipping actor’s is weird. People need to be able to separate the actor’s from the character’s they play. I honestly do not get why they make something so simple, so complicated.
Anyways, great video. It was a great way to end my day.❤
I read ‘tea’ i click 🍵👀
I read 'Perth' i click x)
This man has an insanely lovable personality, and a really comforting voice!
Gonna start watching his shows!!
10:59 speaking as a bi person with some gender fluidity, at the core it is very simply a person loving another person. The differences are superficial and also come down to the individual. Gender is an aspect of a person but there are so many other factors. You don't love them because they're a girl or a guy, you love them for the person they are. When you describe the things about someone you love, many of those things won't be gender-specific, for some examples, a sense of humour, kindness, passion for art, dedication to their family or their business, shared values, adventurous, quiet... Anyone can be those things.
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exactly! 🙌 when someone asks that question "what did you first notice/were first attracted to... ?" who says "he was a boy/she was a girl" ? it might be something physical yes, but not that they were purely a 'male/female'.
@@kristalclearly9777because it goes without saying. It's different for bi people since they are attracted to both genders but for straight or gay people it is the first thing, which is so basic that it doesn't need to be mentioned. You are just not gonna see any other characteristics in a romantic light otherwise. We form our first impressions of people in the first 10 seconds. We decide if we are attracted to them in that time too. So yeah, you notice a nice smile, a good sense of humor etc but it's always in regards to platonic or romantic feelings (friendships or sexual/romantic relationships).
This is all of course true, but I think most people are more skeptical about straight people playing gay roles because straight people won't ever fully understand the nuances of homophobia and discrimination that gay and LGBTQ+ people in general face, as well as just the complex identities they formed growing up that straight people just didn't experience and thus would kind of only gain some sort of understanding by talking to queer friends. Thus, people think straight people may not completely get the character their playing, which is a fair concern. However, when the characters someone's playing don't really deal with the complexities of a queer identity in a drama, as Perth's really haven't, then I think the concern about straight people playing them can be soothed since a straight actor could understand them more easily.
Really enjoyed your video! I'm an old lady (56 now, ugh) from Kentucky, but I love watching all sorts of shows from lots of different countries. Thanks for sharing all your knowledge about the Thai BL industry. Also, congratulations on your new project! Imaging the difficulty of just being in a musical, but adding to singing, acting, and dancing you are throwing in another language AND a sport?? That's amazing! Good luck to you, young one!
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@@Vonnels woot! Cool! Louisville for me!
@@catmacg I'm just outside of Lexington in Georgetown. Nice to see another BL fan since I was certain I was it. :D I visit my Kpop friend in Lville occasionally.
@@Vonnels Ahhhh, Kpop, my second addiction! Saw Oneus when they came, it was so fun.
Perth’s voice so calming, I love hearing about his thoughts on things and his experiences but honestly half the time in just at peace with his tone. 🙂
" Prince of Tennis" is one of my favorites! Congratulations to you! And that's gonna be fun watching my favorite actor playing that as well!!!
I agree that recently actors have calmed down with the fanservice and I appreciate it a lot. As you've said some like it and some don't, I personally just like to see the cast getting along, including the lead couple but putting on an act for fans usually feels weird to me, especially because it creates such a problematic interaction between fans who do and the ones who don't like it meaning especially the ones that do like it also always "fall" for it in the sense that they throw big words like homophobia around whenever people tell them that it's in fact just fan service and that said actors have neither confirmed nor denied dating or even being into people of the same sex. As you've said, it's cool just taking it with a pinch of salt and having fun with it but unfortunately there will always be people reading way too much into it and genuinely believing these interactions to be true without there being any form of confirmation. But I feel like recently it has calmed down, everyone is just promoting their shows, having fun and getting along in a friendly way which is so fun to watch.
This video was really interesting and I always love to get your honest and fresh perspective on what's going on with the industry but the real reason I had to make a comment is...
Perth you are absolutely GLOWING right now. Drop the skin care routine ASAP😂
I had make up on in this video...
@@PerthNakhun I'm sure you still have some great tips and tricks for us though makeup is best when you're taking care of your skin otherwise 😊
The main things that have helped me the most is cleansing properly and keeping my skin hydrated/moisturised. @@MssMercedes
@@PerthNakhun thank you!
@@PerthNakhun thank u for being honest about that ppl look at a lot of asian celebrities these days and feel bad about their skins
At the beginning I did not know of fan service, so I thought everything is genuine and they are together in real life. 😂 But honestly, I’d rather there would be no fan service pressure at all. Fans have gone too crazy because of fan service. Going to the extent of hating specific actors because they broke the “couple” and decided to act in straight dramas only or couple with someone else. Some fans forget that actors just do their jobs at the end of the day. Or fans hating on the actor’s real life partners because of the show “couple”. This is just wrong. If I like an actor I like him or her for their talent and for how they portray a role. Some fans just want to dictate everything that the actor is doing in his or her life.
Read my comment above
I think it should limit the fan service or fans have awareness to separate reality and illusions
thank you so much for sharing your thoughts and personal experiences, the way you’re always talking about your job is so mesmerizing. honestly you’re always so respectful with every topic you talk about and i really agree with the way your think about the bl industry, wishing you the best in your future projects!
You are one of my favourite actors (note *ACTORS) in the world because you seem like a very wholesome human being! I have loved your acting in everything I've seen you in. But I think I particularly like you because of UA-cam and the philosophy you bring with every BL-themed video on here. You are also very handsome. Thank you! 😊
Love that you pointed out the BL stories have become more complex. I think in the past the themes were quite repetitive and kind of one dimensional but now the stories have so much depth and character development and that’s been my favorite part of the evolution of BL. I’m also so so happy that GLs are becoming more of a thing because queer girls deserve representation too!! That being said regarding the comment about “mature content” I think it makes sense when it fits the story, but sometimes it does feel forced and when it’s forced it leaves a bad taste in my mouth. The great thing is that because there’s so many BLs you can really choose what fits your preferences, there’s plenty of soft and cute dramas and there’s plenty that have mature content as well (and by mature I mean not just sex but themes that include violence, trauma, etc).
Thank you for taking the time to talk with us and help us understand the BL industry a little more. I have a few thoughts to share as a BL fan.
Fan Service - I find it confusing because sometimes it looks so real and come to find out it's "fake", so it leaves me with a not very good impression.
Mature Content - I personally feel less is better than more about how explicit a scene really needs to be. Unless it truly fits the story in an authentic way. Most of the time a more tasteful thoughtful scene without everything being shown, is way more expressive and emotionally fulfilling as the viewer.
Best of luck with your role in Japan!! PS - I visited Thailand this summer and watched your Thai language video first. Thank you for everything! ❤❤❤
Fan service is not always negative and is not always fake. Even normal people do fan service for a certain reason and level too. Fan service is made by an agreement from the actors of which level they want to show their fans, but those services are NOT always fake. You have to realize which is fake and which is genuine, but if you can't tell by facial expressions and action microscopes then you won't be able to differentiate it. You have to look at their facial expressions and body language, if you see their comfort of being around one another then they are genuine. But if you see stiff body language or slightly a face that aren't "real", then that means it's fan service. However, doing a fan service, both actors have to make an agreement.
For someone who just started watching Thai shows 6 months ago and started watching BLs 5 months ago Cutie Pie and My Engineer was one of the first 5 BLs I binged watched and I have been hooked ever since on anything Thai BL. For me it's my comfort zone. I just love the stories that are told and the different level of intimacy. Thank you for doing this there are a lot that I am still trying to binge between new ones that have come out. It is a lot!
few months ago i started cutie pie the saw the reel to the engineer - when did perth leave australia to have that beautiful aussieland accent!
It's true how our comfort zones are literally bl dramas🤝💓
as an actual gay guy i hate fan service like were not halloween costumes u can act account to keep fans interested
off topic but your hairstyle looking really good it suits you really well!!
I love the vibe of this video and the genuine answers! Very interesting questions you picked too! Thank you for making this!! :)
Congratulations on being in Tenimyu! My last time watching tenimyu was in Generation 5. Now you are in it, it’s time to pick up tenimyu again! I have to find out which team you are on. Anyway for recent BL, it’s not just saturated, it’s over saturated so for me, it’s simple, any trailer than doesn’t catch my attention automatically gets pushed down and I wait and watch for stories which trailers catches me. Mature content or not, for me it’s the story. Yeah I can consume mature content for the sake of it but it’s kinda like fast food, people can get bored easily even though it’s yummy, fast and convenient. Great job Perth with the Q&A. Thanks for sharing so much with us!!
i so agree with this!! i too get tired of catching up on everything like back then and now just watch what i feel like i would like because theres just too much 😭
Thank you for this episode Perth! I totally enjoyed the content that you’ve produced on all these BL related stuff! And all the best for your Japanese works, luve ya dude!
it feels so nice to be here after watching kinnporsche!! your acting is amazing perth!! so talentedd
First of all, your content is so great. Second of all, you are an amazing host (thinking of your video with Luke). When are we getting more guests on your channel?
Loved your answer about love. That's genuine.
Love what you're saying - around the thought that producers have about people wanting more mature content that you mentioned at 20:55, the truth is we as viewers may enjoy more mature content but we don't enjoy it if the acting quality and story isn't there. KinnPorsche was a great balance of an enthralling story, interesting characters, great acting, and intimate moments that made the viewer feel they were seeing people express love, looking behind the curtain. Always needs to be a balance. There are so many BLs that are basically softcore p*rn that the BL audiences collectively disavow as crap.
Congratulations on the musical! Hope we see you onscreen again soon too 😊
I think context is everything for whether or not playing a different sexuality would be difficult to do. I have seen plenty of BLs where the setting doesn't have much (or even any) prejudice. In which case I agree that there's virtually no difference to playing a gay or straight character.
But if the setting is more realistic, there is something to be said for how to approach a character that may have very different life experiences - being closeted, dealing with bigotry or even violence, internalized homophobia, self-hatred, shame, etc - and how that would affect their personality and ways expressing themselves. It's a different headspace to play a character that has to be constantly concerned with how others see them, being "found out", being stereotyped, etc.
Thank you for coming out and telling us some of this information. Normally on the fan side there is a lot of mis information and also fans claiming to like know how people feel or actors. So it is nice to finally hear it from the source.
Thanks for always being an awesome person
Yes but I often think that it's immature fans who don't really have good understand on how the world works in general.
So two things: 1) Famous Aussie singer appears to be aware of Thai BL as segments of RUSH were shot in Bangkok ( the dance instructors came from Europe ) and PP.Krit popped up in a scene. 2) I was quite surprised when a BL I started watching was getting steamier and steamier to the point where it seemed to be a bit like clickbait. It didn't advance the plot. I was quite disappointed.
WOW! Congratulations to you getting a musical stage actor! You achieved so much and working in 2 asian languages is amazing. I'm german native speaker studying korean with an english speaking K teacher who is also a K pop singer in Seoul. This opportunity is absolutley the best cultural experience in my life as an author. I'm such grateful and excited. If I were in my 20s I would have studied asian languages and tried hard to work in the industry as a writer or ... whatever. This era should have been mine! You can be proud going your way I believe its your destination. By the way, I think you are looking cute ... manly cute ... and you have a good charisma also in you tube which is of course different to the series. Thanks for your work💖My best wishes to you from Austria, Europe
11:20 "I'm gonna di… anyway 🥰" I just lost it 🤣 I like you, your sense of humour is spot on.
When you mentioned that nowadays there are so many bl series coming out that we can't finish them unless we use all our free time watching bl to finish half of it I chocked on air 😂 Me as a free student who goes to school rarely with 67% attendance and spends all her free time watching bl, I can't even finish a bl drama in 3 days 🥲 Or maybe it's cause I start rewatching my old ones-
Oh my...Perth is so well spoken! Uhmazing Dahling! ❤
I would just like to say that I am doing my master's thesis about the LGBT community in Thailand and I have a chapter dedicated to the BL industry and these videos have been very helpful within my work as great evidence from someone who has experienced the industry, so I would just like to thank you so much for this. I've been learning Thai but I am still only on a basic level, so having this input in English and like first hand knowledge is really going to help with my paper. You are a life saver and I absolutely love all your work, and I can't wait to see what you do next!
I think Intouch did an amazing job with that show! Some fan service is over the top, as an adult i enjoy seeing my ship together but also i know the difference from reality and entertainment. Love is love!
I really appreciate how honest but also diplomatic you are, it is a fine balance to spill the tea without burning yourself and you manage to do it❤
Hi Perth! I’ve been following Bl for about a year, and I love your videos. Your video on names and honourifics really helped me. My husband is Asian so I understand some things about culture and the importance of certain practices. This video was very interesting and helpful too. Thank you.
The thing about the sex sells (I know you covered it with "mature content" but let's call it what it is), it's true that having intimate scenes in a series makes people talk and even watch it. We've seen it with some series going viral beyong the BL community. Personally, I don't mind intimate scenes but sometimes it's quite obvious they're added just to "satisfy" a certain audience. I wish BL producers would focus more on writing complex characters and leave out these scenes that are just there to make people scream at their screens. Or rather implement them better into the story. There's a series currently airing that perfectly does that, it's a fun watch while also offering great plot and drama. It's all about being authentic while still making something fun or exciting.
We've come a long way since those early BLs and at this point there's some really great stuff out there. I hope we'll continue to make good content and not add scenes without context just for one sole purpose
Which series were you referring to that does it perfectly?
@TheNychthemeronThing Only Friends. While they have a lot of 18+ scenes in the beginning they later on focus on the characters and make it emotionally dramatic
Yoooooo, I was so excited for the IDEA of the Prince of Tennis musical, now im excited for you to be in it as well.
I started watching bl in 2018, back then I watched basically anything I could get my hands on 😅, but for the last couple of years the quality of a lot of shows has dropped because there are now so many being produced. But the quality of the good ones has definitely improved since 2018, there is now a large variety of storylines and characters.
I don’t really mind fan service but I don’t pay much attention to it, I prefer just to watch the drama, I do watch a lot of kpop fan service though so my views are a bit conflicted. I don’t like forced fan service, I am also not a fan of fan service that is portrayed as being real or ambiguous.
Great questions! Even better answers! I am so happy you are in a musical! This is gonna be crazzyyyy!!! the only sad part is that i dont get to watch it! Hope you have fun!!!
Awesome video! Love you insight into the acting world and Thai Industry. Also I saw you in Prince of Tennis, you did soo good! I didn’t except you to sing so well! 😅❤
Thank you!
I'm French and I've been watching BL for 2 years and fan service is something that makes me smile and for me it's fictional. but also uncomfortable because I find it very toxic for the actors. Unfortunately many no longer know the difference between the characters and the actors. The actors don't "belong to us" Even though I like to see pairings play again, sometimes changing pairings each time would perhaps avoid this.
for Mature content, as long as it's not a BL with just sex scenes without a storyline that's no problem for me. Kinnporsche is the good example, having a mature BL the scenario is more accomplished and we have more complex characters. For me, in addition to university BL, nothing happens and I have the impression that the actors are restricted in their acting. They have to remain cute and at 25-30 years old they are no longer teenagers physically and it shows
Thanks for the Q&A! It was really interesting. "Unless you're super duper famous, beggars can't be choosers." This makes a lot of sense haha
I also love what you said about people loving people, I don't think I've heard from a lot...or from any Japanese 2.5D actors talk about their thoughts like that but it would be great if you could be open about that in Japanese too. Unless you're somehow not allowed to be (in Japanese(??))
Anyway!! Good luck at Osaka and see you at the end of your Tokyo run!! Can't wait to see you sing and dance about tennis!
Thank you for taking the time to answer questions for us.
We truly appreciate.
Many hugs, Z. Allora
(Side note: I adore all your characters. Bravo!)
PS I'm a level 46 trainer. Go Valor! (Just noticed your mic & remembered you enjoyed the game)
It's so interesting to hear about your perspective from a thai (bl) actor himself!
I personally mostly dislike fanservice, especially when the actors are forced to do things they are not really comfortable with it, but do it bc they know the fans love it + their series get more recognition. Also, fake/pretend relationships are so awkward. I do love real life chemistry though, whether that's just because you are great friends, have a close bond, or in some cases, a more romantic connection. It's just nice seeing people work together and actually having fun together!
11:21 "we are all going to die anyway" 😂 But seriously, I've always said this myself; as long as you are not hurting someone, just do whatever you want/makes you happy!
Congrats on your role in a musical 🎉
Yeah me too I'm not comfortable with fan service
I am rooting for natural chemistry only like you do but I think they've already got it that it's way much better and more successful that way so they created those workshops for actors to give them time to adjust and dig deeper in the connection they have. So it's happening. It's not so depressing if you think about it. Basically most actors have an intention of being really friendly, lovable and understanding of each other and it's not for the sake of money or fame, it's for genuine purposes. For us.
Thank you for the Q&A Perth, always appreciate how straightforward you are. Kinnporsche being my first BL, you were one of the first actors i was introduced to. Wish you lots more success in the future and 🤞 I'd love to see you in a new ship. ❤❤❤❤
I’m voicing out then: I don’t like fan service because I feel like although you can ship people healthily, many people cannot, then you have cases of it coming out that one person in the ship is dating someone else and they get death threats and harassment. Fan service definitely contributes to people’s feeling of entitlement inside a relationship they are not in. Like, when the Freen thing came out, I saw people going “oh, poor Becky, she’s heartbroken” and use that to justify being bad to Freen because she “hurt Becky”, as if she was cheating on her, but we have nothing to do with their personal lives and, let’s be real, most likely Becky was well aware of it always and never cared
He did spill the tea and said the truths! Loved the video, so interesting and genuine!!
Thai BLs will always hold a special place in my heart. Back when there was almost no representation, Love of Siam was a story about people I could (secretly) relate to for once. I’m happy to see how it has grown more robust
First: You're handsome!
Second: About the "Understanding Love", I think that we can't define love as one exactly thing, considering that every experience of love is unique, crossed by the personal feelings and understandings of the parts, and that's exactly why a "straight love" is different of other types, even if is love anyway. I think this way because there will be social and cultural differences (like moral, mores, violence, acceptance) that will interfere the feelings that envolve this love and his parts, like a fear of show this love, the social coexistence with family, friends, and even the places that will be frequented. I don't know if I make me understanding.
Really like your channel and sorry if there's grammatical errors, I'm brazilan.
We love these Q&A with you mate.
I usually give a BL about 2 eps, if it doesn't give me the right enjoyment...I don't take the time to watch the rest. There are some really good BLs and some awful ones. most though, are in the middle-ish. And thank goodness there are non school BLs coming into vogue.
Thanks, Perth! I enjoyed this video!
Love your channel. Just here to tell your followers that there is another group of fans of BL series. Yes we retired people over 60 😍Many of us older folks are only discovering BL. Unlike your younger followers we see BL series as a wonderful travel back in time. The stories, places, fashion and styles may be different but the emotions of gay love, the hunting, the jealousy and finally finding the person you love remains the same. Keep up the good work and hope to see as a very successful actor soon. 😍😍😍
This hairstyle is perfect for you, you look totally different ... interesting questions and smart answers ... pleasant time spent with you on the screen ... enjoy your new role, good luck
Can we talk about how amazing Perth look in this video? I needed to watch the first minutes again because I didn't listen because he looks so handsome. I love his hair like that so much.
Ok, back to thr content. I really love how honestly perth speaks about the industry and about fanservice. I hope there will be more videos like this in the future. And also great questions. I love perths kind of view about love. Such a great guy.
I really want to know which novel he reads for a series. 😂
Great video. Love it!
amazing how you make us feel like a friend of yours, amazing video!
Regarding the "more mature content", I want more, for two reasons. I'm a little bit older than Perth and I'm not comfortable watching high school aged romances onscreen, regardless of the age of the actors. And by mature content, similar to what Perth said, I mean mature themes, adult storylines, adult interactions. The 🌶 content is great, and I want more of it, but I also want it to make sense and add to the overall story. Although, I don't know the age of, specifically GMMTV's, target audience. If their target demographic is ages 12-19 females, then yeah. I get the plethora of high school set shows.
YESS IM AN AUSSIE BL FAN 😭😭 when my friends or family ask what are you watching i say BL all the time they ask “what’s that” 😅
I feel like the fan service debacle can clearly divide fandom, and from what Ive noticed, international fans are the ones who don't need/want fan service, who don't care about it, while the Thai fans want it, sometimes even demand it. It seems to me like a lot of Thai fans can't distinguish between onscreen stuff and reality.
It also seems quite connected to the age of the fans, from what I've observed. Some younger fans seem to have less awareness of fan service being part of people's job.
Actually, it's more about the age of the fans. Not all Thai fans want fan service, I mean, they do enjoy it at some certain levels but not all wants it. And like I said, it's about the age of the fans, younger fans seems less aware of fan service being part of the actor's job. The older fans are very aware of it, they can differentiate whether the pairing's relationship is real or fan service. They enjoy it at certain levels of fan service and some likes to joke with actors about the actors being in a relationship, it's a way of their joking and dream, that's all. Yes, they want their pairings to date for real but they also know the limits too. Younger fans are less aware.
The fact that I've seen all the bl dramas he just mentioned 😂😂😂.
I legit nearly screamed when I heard you'll be in the Prince of Tennis musical! I've been a fan of Prince of Tennis for several years, musicals included and hearing you say you'll be part of the musical literally made my day! I'm going to take a shot in the dark and guess which character you'll be portraying if you'll be in Seigaku and that's Oishi Shuichiro.
Your voice is so soothing, love listening to you talk. Love from Melbourne
I could honestly listen to you chat about things all day. Thanks for this. 😸
Congratulations getting into Tenimyu!!!! 🥳🥳🥳
Perth, I just want to say that you're awesome. It's hard, in the entertainment world today, who to believe. I love your honesty and candor and wish you nothing but love and success.
Oh, your English is so “clean” that I could understand everything without making pauses and it was a very nice experience. Thanks so much for talking about BL industry and fan service (I hate it 😅).
the real question is when are you gonna be the main character in a BL :) It will be awesome to see more of you hopefully there's an oportunity in the future 🥰
"I think sometimes thai culture can be a little bit less sensitive towards certain social issues." 03:18
Agreed.
Several things that are just insensitive and wrong are:
1. The normalization of r@p€. I've seen soooooo many scenes where one guy would steal a kiss or even have s€xx with someone who's completely drunk or asleep. The concept of consent is not very much understood and it's frustrating.
2. The romantization of toxic jealousy. This is so sad that many people find this cute or romantic whatsoever. There are countless scenes where a couple would fight because of unreasonable reasons that are based off jealousy. One person would be so obsessive and manipulate the other person into thinking that he/she has betrayed and ruined the relationship. So tiring.
3. The normalization of predatory, pedophilic behaviors. This unfortunately has been the main plot of so many BL series. One is a minor or someone who's still in their age of development, and one is someone much older, like a highschooler and an older tutor, a freshman and a hot doctor, a student and a teacher, etc. The gaslighting and the power dynamics are just too crazy and upsetting to watch especially when a lot of people think it's okay. This has to end soon.
I could go on and on but I think those are three major things to fix ASAP.
I'm in the U.S. I never heard of thai BL dramas until last year. I've been watching thai since 2013.
11:21 “Have a good time! We’re going to die anyway” - Everytime I watch these videos I find new catchphrases and ways to deliver them. 😂
This was great, thanks for choosing the questions so thoughtfully...and fans, thanks for asking good questions! Oh, and cheers for shout out to us Aussie BL fans - we really do exist! 😂 🇦🇺
Facts, Newcastle NSW 🙋🏼♀️
More mature content in BLs? Is that still a BL or is it now a more standard Gay drama, romcom etc.? To me, BL is a romanticised, usually straight young female view of the early stages of an emerging relationship (and all its challenges) between two boys, with lots of hand-holding, flirting, getting to know each other, hanging out etc., going on. It's a safe and sanitised view. The emphasis is on the romance and social aspects and not so much on the sexual aspects of the emerging relationship. The question though is this an accurate reflection of the lived reality of young gay and bisexual men who are entering into a relationship? Is that what they want and what they do? In my opinion, maybe not, and the sexual aspect would be a very important part of their relationship and how they bond. The reality is that young gay and bisexual men have sex with each other, and sometimes a lot. So if BL becomes more 'mature' that is it has more scenes of an intimate physical and sexual nature in it, is it still BL or has it now moved into more gay territory? Having those scenes may be more reflective of the lived reality of young gay and bisexual men and how they express their sexuality, but is it still a BL genre?
I think you're thinking with the Japanese view of BL vs YAOI...? When I feel that "BL dramas" now kind of only refer to a male+male story, whatever the storyline... I've even seen the Heartstopper writer refusing to call her work BL when it enters the genre as it seems to be commonly understood, am I right?
This was a great one Perth, thanks for this.
I loved this! The mature series question, I 100 % agree with. Some days I want fluffy, like MSP, some days I want sweet romance, like ATOTS, and other days spicy, like KinnPorsch. However, I don't feel any entertainer should be pushed into doing more then they are comfortable doing. The last question's answer was so honest and I feel the same way. If the scene is just gratuitous, leave it out. I want the romance, the storyline, the emotions. Thanks Perth. ❤❤ from America
日本では、舞台でも男性どうしの愛を描かれる作品を公演していたりしますがタイではどうなんでしょう？『thrill me』は世界中で人気のある日本でも2011年に初演があってたら再演を繰り返しているホリプロプロデュースの作品です。ラディアント・ベイビー～キース・ヘリングの生涯～などもあります。どちらも実在した人物の舞台ですが、タイでも実在をもとにしたBL作品はありますか？どちらもホリプロ所属の柿澤勇人さんが主演なので、ホリプロ所属が発表された時に縁を感じて嬉しかったです！いつか『thrill me』をタイキャストで観てみたいです💕
How can't I love Perth more? This Q&A was so interesting because his point of view is a nice thing to ear. I'm very grateful for give us a opinion sincere
I didn’t realize you were in Kinnporsche!!! I had watched it without realizing- 🤣
Keeping doing you Perth. I love how natural and real the Q&A was. Your videos are always nice.
Really then I don't like the fan service kind of things like when the fans start shipping their favorite bl actors out of the screen, like they really want their ship to be real .they are humans too they need personal space, they should have the freedom to choose their own partners. They are just an actor who is just displaying the characters and should not take the characters as real because it's their work. When the fans really give their minds and soul into it, it becomes difficult for the fans and actors to work with other actors who is not their ship . Which makes the actors to get work or to play new character with new co- actor difficult .
I love how Perth makes his videos omg
So informative, structured and funny)
I like to listen to your talk while doing housework,so, please we wait for new videos
I love that you take the time to answer completely those questions, and it's really interesting to listen to your own experience! As you said in the video I hate when the fans start to harass the actors, or insist in having more fanservice, not understanding that the actors are all normal people different from the characters they play 😥
Aaand after all thank you for making videos like this, I'm sure I could listen to a podcast from you and your experiences in acting! and congrats on your role in the musical!! ~
PD: in 18:03 were you singing the melody of "yes or yes" by Twice? hehe 🤭
Personally I’m okay with fan service IF it’s not completely forced and uncomfortable for the actors! I like it more when they’re doing it because it’s fun for them or they genuinely enjoy doing it.
First, congrats on Prince of Tennis, as someone who's enjoyed your acting since My Engineer that is really exciting news. Now for my comment: If actors want to do fan service, great. If they don't want to do fan service, also great. What's not great is "fans" bashing actors when they do or don't do fanservice, or when they act with a different partner. As long as the actors involved are happy and not being pressured by "fans"/management into doing or not doing something, I don't think there should be a problem.
TLDR: stop being weird af yall
Regarding the last question, I think there's still plenty of innocent school story type of BLs - it's nice to have a range of series to choose from! I've kind of outgrown school stories, but as for innocent vs. steamy, it just depends on what I'm in the mood for. And now I can pick according to my tastes rather than just watching the few crumbs I could find :P
You're 29? Hmm - you look 19.
14:19 I get it what you’re saying. Specially whatever stuff happened in Kinnporsche set, including actors who were then underage got harassed by the writers. Not every production has a safe environment. Even if majority people are genuinely good, even one or two people can act inappropriately and ruin the good atmosphere. I hope everyone gets to work in a safer and warmer environment, no matter what their role in the production is.
I wasn't actually referring to a production or on set environment. After watching the video back my explanation wasn't very clear but I was actually referencing comments made by fans directed at myself and other actors. That being said I'm not saying that there aren't issues on sets.
@@PerthNakhun Thanks for clarifying, Perth. Yes I agree about the comments, and there are often malicious comments including harassment related ones. However the good thing is these haters get called out by majority of the fans and it’s good when companies take action including legal action when some fans get too problematic with their comments or actions.
Also although I mentioned about the workplace harassment issues I am aware that majority of the people are friendly and kind to each other. However in some companies, from a fan perspective, the whole group including the directors, producers, staff, etc do feel like one big family and I think actors would feel more at ease to give their best performances, whereas in other circumstances this might not be true. It’s natural for fans to not be aware of every behind the scenes issues, so we don’t really have the right to judge, but as long as issues are addressed and properly sorted out it’s fine I guess. 😇
@@PerthNakhun I understood what you meant, some of the comments I've seen are disturbing. For me, the line is blurred of what's okay and what's too personal. Like those channels where idols read thirst tweets... Sometimes it's funny and sometimes it seems really uncomfortable.
He was talking about fans and he was absolutely right but most people out there just choose to ignore that they are actually hurting artists. It's gone crazy and I hate that. And you just proved my point that most fans are just like that. Ignorant even when it is shoved right in their faces.
@@erinskvi don’t think there was a need to have a rude reply, that’s what the tone of your comment gives anyways. it seems they just misinterpreted what was said, it happens, even Perth said his explanation wasn’t as clear.
I found bl shows from watching kdrama and cdrama and I enjoy that they have more mature content from the story line or actual acting. As a married woman sometimes kdrama/cdramas bring out the frustration when ya waiting 20 eps just for a hug. 😂 - though I truly don't get fan service it's not something done where I'm from and it's just odd to me. Actors are acting if there friends in real life brilliant if there not brilliant they did great in the show. I just feel its leading a lot off people down a slippery slope what's real or not.
It's something I find really refreshing in Thai dramas compared with Koreans is they are so much more normal about sex and casual relationships, it's way more realistic and enjoyable! Like I don't need sex scenes all the time but established couples in kdramas should at least kiss and hold hands without the slow motion music and flower petals!
@@candylove1234 haha that's exactly how I feel :) just so much more normality in relationships if that makes sense.
I just come from GMMTV Part 1 content release for 2024 and it’s a shame they a resorting back to high school & college romance series again for 2024, only looking forward to TayNew, OffGun, EarthMix & JossFluke as they have the more mature aged BL’s
I completely agree with this. I joined the stream at 5M on no sleep and watched the whole thing. Longest live stream I've ever watched. I thought I missed this because my ADHD brain thought the premiere was at 9am not 10am lol.
I’m in Australia so it was on 9:30pm to 1am for me and Other then getting to see my baby Nanon sing on stage live it was very disappointing and very very slow.
There's still a lot of interest in high school & college series from fans, plus they are mostly low budget. It's not a bad thing. There's plenty of other genres nowadays.
@@Sharon-fc6lzam 31yrs watched BL series since Sotus, and am still interested in school romances BLs, i love even mature series, but i enjoy cuteness and fluffyness from Thai series.
I’m 33 yrs old Aussie OG BL and Thai Lakorn fan and I think this genre is tired and has been done since this is how I started as a fan in 2014/2015 era of Love Sick & Love of Siam, Ugly Duckling series, Hormones 1,2,3, War of High School etc it’s time to be more diverse and have more mature aged dramas e.g Office or Job Romance, Sci-Fi, Hortor, Supernatural, older LGBTQIA+ series like Wake Up Ladies but more serious just look at how successful Only Friends, Enigma, Midnight Museum, The Jungle, Laws of Attraction, Jun & Jun
fav quotes this video... "soft homophobia" and "shit's pretty crazy" 🤣
Ikr 😂
What he meant by that
honestly... BL did not explode till the pandemic.. so I won't say 5 to 6 years.. I will say BL peaked in popularity during the 2020 to 2021 window with 2gether the series
No it's been about 5-6 years. Probably longer. The first really big mainstream 'BL' was Queer as Folk on Showtime.
@@SakuyaKira24 queer as folk is not a BL.. its an lgbtq show. there's a big difference
BL has been out since the 90's. It's been over popular in the last couple of years but it's been around for about 25 years, since the mid 90's from Japan and Sth Korea mostly.
@@Rage_Harder_Then_Relax yes everyone knows BL has been around forever.. that wasn't the question.. it was when it became popular.
@@thecarterfilez in the 90s. There was Literally a shit ton of it coming in from Japan.
I can't believe I watched the whole video😊the way u talk, it took my attention
Also congrats to you for realizing all of the awesome opportunities you get as an actor vs. the typical “family dad” you will not regret this time I promise you! I missed out, being a stay at home mom myself even tho I graduated from college with honors. And now I barely just got a job as a front office receptionist. Take the life opportunities you can! Experience as much as possible while you can! Love will be there but it will take a lot of your time so it will be better to have experienced life first and then settle down you will feel like you have lived your life and are ready for the next chapter. So don’t compare yourself to others from your personal life. You’re doing amazing!