David Abram and Charles Eisenstein
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- Опубліковано 31 лип 2024
- Animate Earth Dialogs - Episode 02 - Charles Eisenstein
Authors David Abram and Charles Eisenstein discuss climate change, ecology, myth, magic and more.
This Podcast is the second in the Animate Earth Dialogs; a series of conversations between David Abram and various curious human creatures, each of them powerfully engaged with transforming and deepening our connection with the more-than-Human Earth.
Due to technical difficulties some footage was lost in places throughout this conversation, the audio is not affected.
Intro Cuckoo recording is from "Wake Up Calls" by Cosmo Sheldrake.
cosmosheldrake.bandcamp.com/
Recorded Winter 2019
I definitely found myself crying at a few points from hearing things said that I've never heard someone else say but I've known incredible longing for for as long as I can remember. It can be hard to have faith that there are other consciousnesses out there beyond the human sphere, even though it's actually pretty obvious in the case of the animal life around us. Having the hope for that connection betrayed and violated by the story that our culture lives in is hard to come back from. It's a loneliness that we can forget to feel, having been worn down by too much of it and having so many possibilities dismissed. I'm right at the place where it's time to feel.
check out the short documentary- My Octopus Teacher..
If the beasts where gone, we would die of a loneliness of spirit…….
A beautiful conversation between two beautiful people. May there be many such wonderful hours in our everyday life.
Eisenstein inspires me to pay attention to all he had to say, primarily through his capacity to be an impeccable example of one who can listen, without needing to interrupt or interject.
Magical, two of our favs having a yarn. Would love to throw Tyson Yunkaporta into this living room mix. That would be a remarkable three-way.
Hell yes!!!
I am a magician and it is so beautiful to hear someone who so resonates with everything I’ve thought about magic for so long. Really hoping I can connect with you David! Beautiful conversation.
This dialog between two of my favorite thinkers really made my day. Thank you, David and Charles🙏🏼🦅
Thank you David .... you are such an inspired and inspirational being. Marvellous dialogue with Charles. Thank you and Love ... David and Charles .... two of my most beloved humans ....
Beautiful dialogue, fascinating. Openers of sight, offering many languages 🐭🐞🙏🏽
Really wonderful to listen to David Abram's experience and reflections. I will always be very grateful for his wonderful book "The Spell of the Sensuous." It's the book I have most recommended to other people.
Appreciate your heart, minds and words together in this context.
Spectacular conversation - thank you! What a contrast between your powerful, deeply respecting and engaging approach to the encounter with "other" compared to the profoundly negative, divisive and alienating way of othering that is often promoted by our culture. Thank you for that.
I love how just when charles starts to wrap up there is a call from the bird in perfect sync with his tone.
This space, these voices, these themes and questions...all so comfortable and fun.
I’m so glad you tube put Charles in my feed! I can’t get enough
I just subscribed to you too
That was a mindblowing interesting conversation!
Thank you for sharing and.. caring. 🌎
First time I’ve watched this channel. First time I ever heard of Charles or his work. Sometime the algo is helpful.
I’m off to order his books next.
They are both true magicians of "in the beginning was the word...". I could listen forever.
This is fascinating because I moved away from the type of Christianity I was raised in because it could not grapple with the thought of evolution and was, instead obsessed with things changing abruptly (such as salvation; Changing from un-saved to saved). It is funny to hear to big band cosmology also accused of this sudden state-change dynamic that is so conceptually limiting to us.
"Who do I become when I look through this lens" is such a wonderful way to put it.
Thank you both for this unique conversation. A word what maybe is suitable to translate how I felt after listening this conversation is TruthKeeper.
Wonderful talk! 🙏
Please interview Matthew Segall who is an expert in the Process Cosmology developed by Alfred North Whitehead (ANW). ANW's work is called Relational Organic Process.
Articulated really well what some of us wish to express.
Lest créate some new magic and narratives 😍
We can see the sleight of hand on the news media.
(Opinion of a physicist adept of most Eisenstein's ideas.) [12:33 on].- I think Eisenstein, as the philosopher--mathematician he is (Yale), should know to suspect when an argument may be more complex than what meets the eye. I'm referring to his debunking the universe's cold death asymptote on a cavalier generalisation by saying it's humans' imposition of force. I suggest he revise the cognitive psychological base of Ockham's razor, the latter being the heuristic suggesting to choose the simplest model among those that are explanatory, which is what is used to choose a physical model over other possible ones, explanatory too but more complex. Physics isn't metaphysics: the models don't claim anything that can't be inferred from measurement. If it can't be measured it isn't physics - that applies to string theory and to Penrose's new theory unifying the Big Bang with cold death by saying it's the same point in space time (see Jordan Peterson interviewing Penrose). And one keeps an eye on how one infers. Another matter is people who go beyond and use cavalier language for big claims propelling their careers as public gurus - in physics or elsewhere.
Both physics and metaphysics have moved on. Space/Time is dead. See; "Donald Hoffman, space/time is dead"
Love that you played Cosmo sheldrake before. Meeting you, Merlin and Cosmo one day would be the biggest dream come true
Yes, they are an amazing family. Have you come across Merlin's new book Entangled Life?
In it he talks of the influence of David Abrams magic on him and others growing up, making 'the world seem more vivid'
@@tomhope6685 yes I have it on my bookshelf!!
What if a majority is buying into the „magic“ of suggesting Isolation and disconnection? And we buy so much into it that we create this exact same thing? #DefiniteltMeSometime #matrix
So there's literal "truth" and "metabolic" truth, shall we say
This is soooo much a restatement of feminism.... Wish you could have been there in Sheila Ruth's living room seminar for us grad students in the 1970s. Apparently those thoughts filtered out. Thanks for that kind of magic, right?
technologies &of direction of attentivity
wonder filled 😊
mycelial & inter-connectivity
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creative life forces
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Truth as an indexation of the real 🤔 recognising the right Qs.. keeping us in right relationship with what ??
serves vibrantcy health for
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I don't imagine there is any useful way to hold onto ones money. I imagine David and Charles and ,Richard from the first episode are, all invested in the stock or bond market or are getting the benefits of someone who is invested in these earth killing enterprises. Its something I struggle with. If I put my money in the bank it loses value and the bank makes a killing in interest by investing the money into the stock and bond markets. I see no way out
I'm working on divesting from ecological or humanistically damaging stocks and moving into positions that are neutral or even beneficial. We sort of have to play the game if we want some sort of financial independence, but we can dictate the rules to a small extent in this way.
It is like trying to make a great living in a career of helping the disabled. The system is highly immoral and corrupt. If you go against it by doing the moral things you lose. Seems we are only left with splitting the difference and continue voting for the greater moral side in hopes of change.