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Charles hit the nail on the head straight out of gate naming the reductionist approach of climate change...I feel this has led us to be funneled into a narrow-minded way of producing solutions, most all of which mainstream solutions for climate change are MORE TECHNOLOGY!

Love the bit about the danger of metaphor near the end. That's an unimaginably useful and loving insight

18:00 I simply cannot continue to listen. Amazing people saying amazingly innovative things, and yet the sheer ungratefulness (perhaps even malice) with which you hate upon the womb from which you sprung... Seems either evil or childish. And I say this as a non-American currently suffering under the hand of American empire. I have much more reason than you to hate your people, yet I do not.

Thank you for speaking to us.

There is no Climate change. That's made up by the Elite. They also can Control the Weather. The Earth cleans herself every so many thousands of years .

"Who do I become when I look through this lens" is such a wonderful way to put it.

They are both true magicians of "in the beginning was the word...". I could listen forever.

This is fascinating because I moved away from the type of Christianity I was raised in because it could not grapple with the thought of evolution and was, instead obsessed with things changing abruptly (such as salvation; Changing from un-saved to saved). It is funny to hear to big band cosmology also accused of this sudden state-change dynamic that is so conceptually limiting to us.

I like the term humilicene rather than anthropocene -- as the waking up to all that we got wrong in our anthropocentric view of life on this planet -- as a new beginning by proceeding with humility in a process of discovery to understand what our blind spots have hidden from us. Thank you for this.

A beautiful conversation between two beautiful people. May there be many such wonderful hours in our everyday life.

Lest créate some new magic and narratives 😍

What if a majority is buying into the „magic“ of suggesting Isolation and disconnection? And we buy so much into it that we create this exact same thing? #DefiniteltMeSometime #matrix

I just found Abrams recently via his book Spell of Sensuous and I am in Awe, not because it is something new for me but because is something I was sensing since I was a child but I could not explain. I could see that the more I learned to speak with my fellow humans,less magical my world became. I still remember one day maybe with 5 years old when I was telling a friend that a platic puppet I had was actualy alive and he use to talk with me. In that moment we both looked to the puppet and it moved and talked, I was as astonished as him by observing it. Was mere seconds but was like magical.

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(Opinion of a physicist adept of most Eisenstein's ideas.) [12:33 on].- I think Eisenstein, as the philosopher--mathematician he is (Yale), should know to suspect when an argument may be more complex than what meets the eye. I'm referring to his debunking the universe's cold death asymptote on a cavalier generalisation by saying it's humans' imposition of force. I suggest he revise the cognitive psychological base of Ockham's razor, the latter being the heuristic suggesting to choose the simplest model among those that are explanatory, which is what is used to choose a physical model over other possible ones, explanatory too but more complex. Physics isn't metaphysics: the models don't claim anything that can't be inferred from measurement. If it can't be measured it isn't physics - that applies to string theory and to Penrose's new theory unifying the Big Bang with cold death by saying it's the same point in space time (see Jordan Peterson interviewing Penrose). And one keeps an eye on how one infers. Another matter is people who go beyond and use cavalier language for big claims propelling their careers as public gurus - in physics or elsewhere.

Eisenstein inspires me to pay attention to all he had to say, primarily through his capacity to be an impeccable example of one who can listen, without needing to interrupt or interject.

Beautiful dialogue, fascinating. Openers of sight, offering many languages 🐭🐞🙏🏽

Wonderful to see two beautiful minds appreciating each other and the intelligence of all life.

Please interview Matthew Segall who is an expert in the Process Cosmology developed by Alfred North Whitehead (ANW). ANW's work is called Relational Organic Process.

Articulated really well what some of us wish to express.

Spectacular conversation - thank you! What a contrast between your powerful, deeply respecting and engaging approach to the encounter with "other" compared to the profoundly negative, divisive and alienating way of othering that is often promoted by our culture. Thank you for that.

Wonderful talk! 🙏

So there's literal "truth" and "metabolic" truth, shall we say

Really wonderful to listen to David Abram's experience and reflections. I will always be very grateful for his wonderful book "The Spell of the Sensuous." It's the book I have most recommended to other people.

Lovely but the seats are too hierarchical...

This dialog between two of my favorite thinkers really made my day. Thank you, David and Charles🙏🏼🦅

I am a magician and it is so beautiful to hear someone who so resonates with everything I’ve thought about magic for so long. Really hoping I can connect with you David! Beautiful conversation.

This is great! Thank you....🤙

This is soooo much a restatement of feminism.... Wish you could have been there in Sheila Ruth's living room seminar for us grad students in the 1970s. Apparently those thoughts filtered out. Thanks for that kind of magic, right?

I love how just when charles starts to wrap up there is a call from the bird in perfect sync with his tone.

We can see the sleight of hand on the news media.

First time I’ve watched this channel. First time I ever heard of Charles or his work. Sometime the algo is helpful. I’m off to order his books next.

I’m so glad you tube put Charles in my feed! I can’t get enough I just subscribed to you too

I definitely found myself crying at a few points from hearing things said that I've never heard someone else say but I've known incredible longing for for as long as I can remember. It can be hard to have faith that there are other consciousnesses out there beyond the human sphere, even though it's actually pretty obvious in the case of the animal life around us. Having the hope for that connection betrayed and violated by the story that our culture lives in is hard to come back from. It's a loneliness that we can forget to feel, having been worn down by too much of it and having so many possibilities dismissed. I'm right at the place where it's time to feel.

This space, these voices, these themes and questions...all so comfortable and fun.

This is absolute garbage - And you have no grasp of red shift !

I don't imagine there is any useful way to hold onto ones money. I imagine David and Charles and ,Richard from the first episode are, all invested in the stock or bond market or are getting the benefits of someone who is invested in these earth killing enterprises. Its something I struggle with. If I put my money in the bank it loses value and the bank makes a killing in interest by investing the money into the stock and bond markets. I see no way out

Magical, two of our favs having a yarn. Would love to throw Tyson Yunkaporta into this living room mix. That would be a remarkable three-way.

Profoundly thought provoking discussion, Thank you. Words can be strange attractors. Humelecene (hope the spelling is ok) is a beautiful word. Perhaps the Ecozoic Era 🌱 is another contender 🙂

That was a mindblowing interesting conversation!

Love that you played Cosmo sheldrake before. Meeting you, Merlin and Cosmo one day would be the biggest dream come true

Thank you both for this unique conversation. A word what maybe is suitable to translate how I felt after listening this conversation is TruthKeeper.

Appreciate your heart, minds and words together in this context.

Thank you David .... you are such an inspired and inspirational being. Marvellous dialogue with Charles. Thank you and Love ... David and Charles .... two of my most beloved humans ....

Thank you for sharing and.. caring. 🌎

The term Anthropocene suggests an indictment of all people. We, the people of these developed and... developing modern cultures, do not represent all those other myriad humans. Especially those whose places "we" appropriated and degraded. We are not Humanity! I am very grateful to you. Your eloquence and knowledge ring true.

Thank you so much !!!! This was really powerful and I really appreciate what both of you bring to the world, if not just a peculiar receptivity to the beauty beyond you. <3

So inspiring.

A huge thank you to David for the closing remarks around the term "Anthropocene", especially the words "We broke it, we own it, it's up to us to manage this". That seems to be the attitude of so many people who genuinely care about life on Earth and really want to help, but haven't spotted the danger of falling back into the exact same ignorant arrogance that is responsible for all the horrors. If we allow ourselves to be distracted by supposed "solutions" coming from within the unchanged civilized consciousness we will never even try to do the one thing that is needed, which is to take on the challenge of breaking out of our cultural conditioning and opening ourselves to the greater intelligence of the Earth and the other beings all around us.

Thanks for this, David! Regarding the Anthropocene, are you familiar with Donna Harroway's definition of this epoch as the "Chthulucene"? : wiki.p2pfoundation.net/Chthulucene. Her proposed definition seems to take into account the misdirection of human enterprise and seat it in a context that holds the meaning of our being humus/earth beings.